WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Tintin]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://x.com/MaimunkaNews/status/1810398999893127582

https://x.com/dana916/status/1810405221966684526

Suggestions are that this was a AIM-120 NATO supplied air defence missile which either went off-target (not for the first time) or a convenient provocation by the Kiev regime ahead of this week's NATO meeting. I suspect atrocity propaganda here, again (recalls what happened at Konstantinovka market about 10 months or so ago. See here for a reminder on that).









I've also sent the BBC a helpful correction via X

Source: https://x.com/AvalonForum/status/1810623110611124360

[Tintin]

Russian strikes continue to pummel bridges over the Oskol River:

[gini]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7DaVBp3IUO0

--40 min--8 Jul 2024 BUDAPEST
'In an exclusive interview with Paul Ronzheimer, the Hungarian Prime Minister discusses his controversial trip to Moscow and meetings with Vladimir Putin. He emphasizes the need for peace negotiations and the role of Hungary's EU presidency. The Prime Minister warns of an escalation in the Ukraine war in the coming months and underscores the importance of an autonomous European foreign policy. He highlights that a unified European stance against Russia is crucial and criticizes the EU's current war strategy as ineffective. Despite criticism of his visit, he defends his diplomatic efforts and stresses the moral and political obligation to promote peace. He concludes by discussing the perspectives of American and European politics and the importance of leadership in times of crisis.'

[Vicus]

Ukrainian troops wanted to turn Donbass into death valley — expert

Roman Pukalov stressed that hydrocyanic acid is a highly-volatile gas which depresses the central nervous system causing intoxication, fainting spells, and paralysis

MOSCOW, July 8. /TASS/. The fact that a Ukrainian chemical weapons laboratory was found in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) proves that the Ukrainian army wanted to turn Donbass into a death valley, a Russian expert told TASS.

Chief of Russia’s Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Troops Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov said earlier on Monday that a Ukrainian chemical laboratory for the production of toxic agents, including hydrocyanic acid which falls under the Chemical Weapons Convention, was found in one of the locations near the settlement of Avdeyevka in the DPR.

"Naturally, the lives and health of our people are of top priority. Such toxic agents are deadly poisonous for all living creatures. There is a Death Valley on the Kamchatka Peninsula near the Valley of Geysers. It is known for natural cyanide emissions from under the soil. We find lots of animal carcasses there - all local fauna, including bears. Wild animals’ sense of smell is much better developed that humans’. Animals are much more careful than humans but even they could not escape death from cyanide emissions. It gives an idea of the lethality of this toxin. And they wanted to turn Donbass into such a death valley," said Roman Pukalov, director of environmental programs of the Green Patrol public organization.

He warned that hydrocyanic acid is a nerve agent. It is a highly-volatile gas which depresses the central nervous system causing intoxication, fainting spells, and paralysis. It kills animals in several seconds.

https://tass.com/politics/1814177

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1PlKzXNGiI4

9 hours ago

[norman]

Putin winds up a grand tour of Asian leaders, Europe is experiencing '2020' level election stealing disbelief, and NATO is doing a promo hyped Summit in Washington.

Seems (to me) us little folk are the last to be told something big has been well planned and is about to happen.


Bring your own puke bag, for this.
https://t.me/UnityNewsNetwork/18915

[Bruce G Charlton]

wrt the NATO advert. Pure Orwellian rhetoric!

But it's interesting that "they" still need to lie about their real nature and objectives in an advert.

To me this confirms that the Western "masses" are significantly less corrupt than the leadership class: it's the difference between the "ordinary" evils of human corruption (short-termism, selfishness, pride, fear, mental laziness etc) - and the extreme (demonic) evil of actual value-inversion among our leaders; for whom sin is virtue, loathsomeness is beauty, lies are truth, and accelerating chaos is unity.

[Mike Gorman]

Yes, we little folk are blissfully unaware of the true scale of this: NATO and its EU/UK/USA cohorts have become an evil alliance of elitist ugly criminality, they have completely lost their original ethical merit. This absolute rejection of amiability with Russia is the true root of the problem, Russia is a positive, wonderful country, nobody is perfect but Russia is now the true manifestation of the original merits of our European and Christian western ideals: what we are seeing is an ultimate catastrophe, we are now approaching the final confrontation and 'the public' is completely unaware of what is at stake. BRICS is shown to be a viable way forward, that is what they hate, YES the western masses are much less corrupt than the leadership class, but of course we are fully immersed into the Fog of War, if only there was a giant fan to blow all of this away, to clear the landscape and demonstrate what is truly happening here.

[Tintin]

Shared by Simplicius here:

Text:

Wow, actual first hand info from someone on the ground in Sumy:

⚡️🇷🇺2 Days ago, I told you about the Ukrainian military shooting down a Russian missile above Sumy. I can now confirm that in fact it was a Russian Iskander that hit a Ukrainian convoy. 2 Independent witnesses told me that Ukrainians suffered heavy casualties.

The Russian MOD did release a video about this incident, but I did not link it until now. The person that I spoke to, told me that they can not put into words the carnage of the attack, and will go for psychological treatment. The other person explained that they live in the next village and saw the explosion in the sky and then the efforts to repatriate the wounded.

The reason the Ukrainians were able to pass this off as an AD operation was that everyone saw the explosion in the sky, but did not think of it as cluster munitions.

I didn't initially quote the Russian military figures that they released (65), because I thought it was unlikely, however I am now as certain as I can be, that the number is actually higher.
2:07 AM · Jul 10, 2024

Here's the video:


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v53r0ik

[Vicus]

Moscow reacts to reports of Western mercenary war crimes in Ukraine

RT
Sun, 07 Jul 2024


Russian soldier captured on the Donbass frontline

The New York Times has revealed multiple atrocities allegedly committed by international fighters against Russian POWs.

Russia's Investigative Committee has said it will probe war crimes allegedly committed by a mercenary unit fighting for Ukraine. The statement comes after the New York Times (NYT) claimed the so-called Chosen Company, led by a former US Army National Guard soldier, has committed multiple war crimes and executed Russian prisoners of war.

In one reported incident described by the NYT on Saturday, members of the so-called Chosen Company murdered a seriously injured Russian serviceman who was allegedly surrendering and pleading for help.

The agency stated on their Telegram channel:

"Investigators of the Russian Investigative Committee will look into more crimes by Ukraine's armed formations. Information is being circulated in the media about a crime committed against a wounded Russian prisoner of war who was killed with a shot to the head."

Commenting on the NYT report, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova noted that US media previously chose to ignore multiple reports of human rights violations submitted by the Russian Foreign Ministry, which had also been circulated in the UN Security Council.

Zakharova, in an interview with the Russian newspaper Izvestia, published on Sunday, stated:

"It is amusing to watch how American journalists and media platforms pretend they knew nothing about the abuse of the peaceful population of Donbass, now new Russian regions, by the Kiev regime. They act as if they are unaware of the torture inflicted on people by the Ukrainian army and security forces. Ridiculous."

Last year, Moscow launched an investigation into alleged war crimes committed by French mercenaries, after a photo surfaced showing three Russian POWs shot at point-blank range.

According to the Investigative Committee, more than 3,100 foreign mercenaries are currently fighting in Ukraine, most of them US, Canadian and British citizens. Moscow has repeatedly warned that mercenaries are not viewed as combatants under international law and "the best thing" they can hope for if captured alive is "a trial and maximum prison terms."

https://www.sott.net/article/492960-...mes-in-Ukraine

[Vicus]

Russia Prevents Attack on Admiral Kuznetsov Aircraft Carrier July 10, 2024


Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov

This operation was supervised by the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry’s Directorate of Intelligence.

On Wednesday, the Federal Security Service (FSB) confirmed that it thwarted a sabotage attempt prepared by Ukraine against the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov. This operation was supervised by Kiril Budanov, the head of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry.

Through social media, a Ukrainian intelligence officer, who identified himself as “Oleg,” contacted a young Russian navy officer and offered him large sums of money and a fake passport to flee to Finland.

Threatening to send false evidence to the Russian authorities so that the young officer would be prosecuted for financing the Ukrainian army, Oleg proposed that the Russian officer participate in an attack on the aircraft carrier.

To this end, the Ukrainian agent sent the Russian officer components to build an explosive device and asked him to record a video of the attack. However, by that time, the Russian officer had already informed the Federal Security Service about what was happening.

Under the FSB’s supervision, the crew of the Admiral Kuznetsov simulated a fire on board and filmed a video of the fake attack, which was then sent to the Ukrainian agent, who deleted all his contacts after receiving the video.

The Russian Federal Security Service opened a case against the Ukrainian agent and other unidentified individuals on charges of recruitment and incitement to commit terrorist acts, which can carry a life sentence for those involved.

On Wednesday, Russian media revealed excerpts of statements made by the young navy officer whom Ukraine attempted to recruit to sabotage the vessel. In Moscow, authorities detained a Russian citizen born in 1994, who organized the delivery of three powerful explosive devices, disguised as gifts, according to Ukrainian intelligence instructions.

The Admiral Kuznetsov began construction in 1982 at the Black Sea Shipyard, was launched in 1985, and participated in anti-terrorist operations in Syria years later. Currently, this military vessel is under repair and will return to active duty at the end of 2024.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/russi...craft-carrier/

[shaberon]

Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
NATO and its EU/UK/USA cohorts have become an evil alliance of elitist ugly criminality, they have completely lost their original ethical merit.

My question would be, what was its original ethical merit?

From what I can tell, we could say the United Nations was founded on ideals, with the somewhat misunderstood inclusion of "Nazi Argentina" slipping under the radar. From this maneuver, NATO was founded as nothing other than a basically non-elected war machine; has never been anything other than a screaming Russophobe.


Similarly:

Russia is now the true manifestation of the original merits of our European and Christian western ideals: what we are seeing is an ultimate catastrophe, we are now approaching the final confrontation and 'the public' is completely unaware of what is at stake.

Russia has always been the same, minus the foreign-backed Bolshevik/Communist era. What were the original merits of pan-Europa?

I mean, I keep hearing, there is "something" so European and wonderful that its loss is a tragedy, and I can never figure out what it is.


Baltic Defense Line, Ukrainian friendly fire on a hospital...someone is living deep in a fevered dementia.

On the street level, in a social way, I would say yes that in Europe it is much different compared to the social breakdown of America. The place where I live is very nearly spooky. My guess is I would find something similar in Cambodia, Niger, or Colombia, if I acted right to gain acceptance. So I think America is very artificial compared to that.

As a descendant from western European genetics, I would say, it was originally Druidry, which was voluntarily intellectually mixed with Greekness. By the process of conquering "tribes", by around the 500s what happened was that local leaders, magistrates, etc., were mostly left intact, and what you got was a Roman Bishop who told everyone what to think. Going forward, most of what is found does not paint a pretty picture or constitute lofty ideals, but leads to what I could understand my personal ancestors fled in horror in the 1700s.

If there is any way to help me figure out the Golden Thread that somehow went missing in the past few years, and shows up in Russia's hands as if it were brand new, does it have a name?

[christian]

Posted by Tintin (here)

I first suspected a false flag, because why attack a children's hospital right before a NATO summit?

But the missile clearly has this jet engine at the end, which looks like a bulge on one side. That's typical for Kinzhals. As the dimensions in the above photo suggest, not an X-101, but the shorter X-55, which is less than 6 meters.



I find it very hard to wrap my head around the mindset behind the attack on a children's hospital, but maybe it's the same mindset that served "Chicken Kiev" at the UN one day later. It's a demonstration of ruthlessness.

[christian]

Maybe look at it this way. Ukraine doesn't need an attack on a children's hospital before a NATO summit to get more support. More NATO support is guaranteed anyway. There is no real benefit in the hospital attack for Ukraine. Quite the opposite, cause people online will speculate, as I did and as people do here, if it was a false flag. In that sense, from Putin's perspective, why not bomb a children's hospital, demoralize Ukrainian citizens, and cast suspicion on Ukraine cause people just can't believe that you would be so evil to attack a children's hospital.

In any case, the jet engine at the end of the missile is what convinced me it's some kind of Kinzhal. That bulge at the end is just too obvious, I don't see that in any of the missiles that have been suggested on the Ukrainian side.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Surely that photo of a missile approaching a building is a fake?

Open to correction; but I would have thought it impossible to get a photo of an incoming missile, and impossible-squared if the missile is hypersonic.

But maybe smartphone camera technology - and the ability of smartphone users to point their cameras at incoming rockets - has made quantum leaps while I was not looking...

[ExomatrixTV]

• Scott Ritter Warns: Nato Vs. Russia, Big War Has BEGUN! The Western DRAGS World Into Global War:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmaOybDMtI4

[Jaak]

Posted by shaberon (here)
Russia has always been the same, minus the foreign-backed Bolshevik/Communist era. What were the original merits of pan-Europa?

I mean, I keep hearing, there is "something" so European and wonderful that its loss is a tragedy, and I can never figure out what it is.

Before jews took over russia and started massmurdering people it was 80% percent or so illiterate. Stalins industrialization did give russia quite a boost but that cost tens of millions of lives.
And all them foreign backers were also jews .
¨What were the original merits of pan-Europa?¨ To destroy local cultures and replace them with other people .
Just another jewish plan that has largely succeeded https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richar...enhove-Kalergi

You say your roots are in western europe but i thought you were a jew ? Jews dont originate from there...
So it doesnt suprise me that you have zero empathy when dozens of cultures and subcultures of Europe (or whats left of them ) get wiped out if the jews manage to bring along the WW3.

[Ravenlocke]

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Norway supplied Ukraine with the NASAMS air defense system, from which a missile was fired at a children's hospital in Kiev, stated Russian Ambassador to the UN Nebenzia.

"We are also waiting for a response from the Norwegian authorities... Did they sanction its use to strike a children's hospital and to be placed in residential areas in violation of international humanitarian law?"

Earlier, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova reported that it was indeed a NASAMS missile that hit the hospital.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1810728089976230069

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
Nothing sacred: Ukrainian regime cashes in on own strike on children's hospital in Kiev

The Kiev regime and its Western allies groundlessly accused Russia of striking the Ohmatdet Children's Hospital ahead of the jubilee NATO summit.

A building on the grounds of the Okhmatdet hospital was hit by a surface-to-air missile fired from the Western-made NASAMS air defense system during a Russian attack on military targets in Kiev, Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said.

◻️ Photographs and videos taken in Kiev confirm that the hospital site was hit by a Ukrainian SAM, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense. The ministry linked the Kiev regime's accusations to the NATO summit, which will discuss Ukraine's potential membership among other issues.

◻️ The US is silent on the incident, hoping to use the controversy for approving new arms deliveries to Kiev, according to Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov.

◻️ In March 2022 Ukraine and its Western allies used the "Bucha massacre" hoax to justify Kiev's decision to tear up a draft Russo-Ukrainian peace deal struck in Istanbul in March 2022. The Russian Foreign Ministry stressed in December 2023 that no list of victims in Bucha has ever been published, and international organizations show no interest in investigating the matter.

◻️ Kiev's claims that Mariupol Maternity Hospital №3 was hit by a Russian airstrike in March 2022 also turned out to be a hoax, with local residents confirming the "bombing" never took place. Nonetheless, the fake incident was featured in a documentary that won an Oscar in March 2024.

◻️ Kiev and the Western media routinely ignore evidence of Ukraine's attacks on civilian areas — including the latest cluster munitions strike on a Sevastopol beach, the killings of Russian POWs by Ukrainian nationalists and foreign mercenaries and the Kiev regime's torture chambers.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1810668460558459370

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
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"A Norwegian NASAMS anti-aircraft missile system missile hit a children's hospital in Kyiv."
--Vasily Nebenzya, Russia's permanent representative to the UN, at a meeting of the Security Council.
""We are also waiting for a reaction from the Norwegian authorities, who, apparently, supplied the Zelensky clique with a NASAMS installation. Did they authorize it to be used to strike a children's hospital, as well as to be placed in residential areas in violation of international humanitarian law?" the Russian diplomat asked.

As previously reported on July 9, the official representative of the Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova, it has already been confirmed that a NASAMS air defense missile hit the building on the territory of the Okhmatdyt children's hospital in Kyiv.
NASAMS is a mobile air defense system designed to combat maneuvering aerodynamic targets at low and medium altitudes. It was developed by the Norwegian company Kongsberg Defence & Aerospace in conjunction with the American Raytheon.

Nebenzya noted that the Russian military did strike at military industry facilities Ukraine, one of the targets in Kiev was the Artem plant, which is part of the concern "Ukroboronprom". It is one of the main manufacturers of aircraft missiles, weapons and ammunition. The enterprise is located about two kilometers from the Okhmatdyt hospital.

As the diplomat emphasized, there is every reason to believe that the Ukrainian air defense missile that hit the hospital was designed to intercept the Russian missile that hit the plant."


https://x.com/amborin/status/1810802178078159111