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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1814708336878895261



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    Am I missing something, or has the usual series of post-shooting press conferences simply not materialized?

    It seems we don’t even know the basics. How many of these questions have a satisfactory/confirmed answer?

    Beyond ‘AR-15’ what weapon, exactly? How was it equipped? What type of ammunition, exactly? How many shots? How many unfired rounds left in the magazine? In the backpack? How many people were hit/grazed? Who are they and what are their injuries. What are President Trump’s injuries? How many fired rounds have been recovered? From where? Is the venue still an active crime scene, and if so, why was the roof being washed? What was the presumptive shooter doing over the several days prior? What was the transmitter for? What else was in the car? Was the shooter in contact with anyone by phone or other device while at the rally? Was the water tower covered? If so, how? If not, why not?

    Feel free to provide any answers you think we have official confirmation of. And please suggest other questions that should be readily answerable.

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    Our lack of factual information about this shooting (ex: how many shell casings were on the roof) is highly irregular. A coverup would, by withholding basic facts, retain flexibility to avoid or explain away anomalies. We should demand a full accounting of the basics. Now.
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    DHS was created after the false flag event 9/11 by the son of a man referred to as the Fuhrer or Poppy in reference to opium. Kent Dunn said the LAPD found out all gang stalking activities are orchestrated through DHS fusion centers. The author of The Invisible Crime Michael Bell said his problems started just after 9/11. Did the Patriot Act & National Defense Authorization Act facilitate that? The rally would have been street theater. I suspect there was a micro squib in Trump's ear for effect. The story of David & Goliath around 1012 BC plays-out in a similar way. If he missed all of history would have changed. Some group must have installed a micro-charge in his helmet or behind his forehead to steer the timeline to their desire. What if one of the shooters at the rally also shot Goliath.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote I suspect there was a micro squib in Trump's ear for effect.




    update: Trump just said from the stage this was the White House Doctor for Obama, Bush, and Trump.

    https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814744990998016015



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    just released this letter about how he has been providing medical care to President Trump since the President was shot at his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania one week ago.

    Dr. Jackson says he’s been personally applying the bandages to President Trump’s ear daily, and that he will be conducting a hearing exam on President Trump as well, but expects him to make a full recovery! He also said he’s been by the President’s side all week long and will be traveling with him to Michigan as well to take care of him as long as he needs to be taken care of.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    copying here

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    Live now (5pm EDT) (deeply hoping they have security corrected)

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1814769549360968037



    For those following the "Water Tower Second Shooter" Theory, this is a really good enhancement of one of the key pieces of footage. 💥

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    No that's not making sense, about Crooks starting the shooting.

    The sound from the recorder position in line of sight ( and sound ) of Crooks on the roof was duller for the first 2 or 3 shots than the shots that started later.
    Perhaps those other snipers, not Crooks, started the shooting, when they heard the cops who had just spotted Crooks on the roof, up close, rifle in hand, send out a warning over the radio.

    The other snipers would have known that their remaining time to shoot an exposed Trump was down to seconds.
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    • How Law Enforcement Failed to Protect Trump from an Assassination Attempt:

    "Liberal Left Leaning Mainstream Media" New York Times having a YT Channel with 4.5 Million Subscribers
    • This NYT Video Report may have left out so many other prudent LEGIT questions ... this video is what you are "allowed" to consider ... so much they won't touch.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    The other snipers would have known that their remaining time to shoot an exposed Trump was down to seconds.
    Then, to continue that thought, the first sniper to then get off a round felt in a hurry, so didn't wait until Trump's head seemed to be in a stable, unmoving, position.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814780395969520005



    “They keep saying he’s (Donald Trump) a threat to Democracy. I’m thinking what the hell did I do for Democracy? Last week I took a bullet for Democracy.” — President Trump speaking in Michigan today

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    https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1814778951123849564




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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    I'd not been aware so far of Scott Ritter's view on all this. Here he is (with Larry Johnson, too) talking yesterday with Ania K, who asks all the right questions. Ritter is no Trump supporter, not at all. But he's 100% sure this was allowed to happen.

    That part of the conversation is only at the start. The rest of the interview is about Israel, Ukraine, Putin, Orban, systemic Russophobia, arms control, and Trump's likely foreign policy.

    (Btw, Larry Johnson believes Crooks was the lone gunman. But it's crystal clear that he's unaware of the audio analysis.)

    Is DHS Responsible for Assassination Attempt on Trump?


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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    I don't trust a word coming out of the mainstream media about this. Unfortunately the alternative media is replete with compromised characters too. But we're at where we're at and it's still early days for figuring this one out as best we can.

    This will probably be worth my time and maybe your time too:

    https://lightonconspiracies.com/live...p-shot-or-not/

    Footage from the RNC had me furrowing my brow and I switched off when Terry Bollea appeared in character and showcased a number of his polished gimmicks. I still enjoy a good sporting match at the Olympics, but I pretty much gave up on the entertainment branch of grappling when they lowered the theatrics into a moral sewer for kids and adults alike. It just wasn't fun any more. It was primetime utter filth straight from the playbook Yuri Bezmenov warned us all about in the early 1980s.

    Bollea and Drumpf go back a long way. Almost as long as Drumpf and Vince McMahon.



    Does anyone else remember the New World Order stable of headlining wrestlers?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wo...nal_wrestling)

    The leader was stated as being Kevin "Big Sexy" Nash, but Terry "Hulk Hogan/ Hollywood Hogan" Bollea was always the stable's biggest draw. The NWO started wrasslin' in 1996 to add their considerable public sell to the propaganda that Bush the father started in 1991. Bush's birthing of the NWO into the public lexicon was during his State Of The Union address a mere twelve days after mobilising coalition forces to stop Saddam Hussein's despicable minions from throwing babies out of incubators.

    For the more forensically minded amongst us, the photo I really want to see is the one of Drumpf's ear as soon as it emerges from his splendid choice of gimmick currently overselling it.



    There is no better composition than this. They got the photo they wanted.

    https://www.grapheine.com/en/graphic...emiology-image

    I flagged this up earlier on in the thread. These pesky shoes just keep on defying all manner of (im)probabilities to just keep on showing up in the aftermath of so many pesky goings on. Hint: they are a ritualistic calling card.

    https://thefulcrum.us/election-2024/...pt-reflections

    In a way this is the best photo I've seen yet.



    GTFOOH.

    Professional bodyguards all over the world are either belly laughing at it or facepalming for all they are worth.

    There might still be an active shooter or active shooters about to squeeze the trigger due to the opportunity that's just been handed to them on a golden platter. Then again, why do you need to squeeze a trigger if you're close enough to pull a pin instead?

    "My gun hand is saving Donald's baseball cap. When TSHTF I was always trained to waste valuable split seconds on rescuing baseball caps in distress. And restrict my gun hand plenty more than necessary. Clouseau taught me everything I know. "

    "But Hermoor!" I hear you retort. "Uh, uh.... he's actually a leftie! That's not his gun hand!!"

    Then why has he got a frickin' towel in his gun hand to waste even more time with a little scratch?!

    When TSHTF you treat the principal like a sack of potatos and manhandle him with as much force as required to get him to a safe place as quickly as possible. Nothing else matters. Zip. Nada. That goes double for lonely baseball caps and pfaffing about with silly f*cking towels.

    Oh my days. GTFOOH!

    Brace yourself folks. We've been through the Nederlands of peak retard here and the Himalayas are still to come.

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    Mike Adams does a very good forensic acoustic analysis of, by his reckoning, the 7 incoming shots.
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I don't think this audio analysis by Mike Adams has been posted yet. It's a follow-up to Chris Martenson's already well-circulated video (which has now had over 460k views). Mike does a good job, explaining his calculations very clearly.
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Then, to continue that thought, the first sniper to then get off a round felt in a hurry, so didn't wait until Trump's head seemed to be in a stable, unmoving, position.
    Now that I've listened to that recommended analysis from Mike Adams (better late than never), "the first sniper" is indeed likely Thomas Matthew Crooks, on the roof. Since it was likely Crooks himself who started the shooting, there would have been no need for the other snipers to have learned over the radio of Crooks being spotted on the roof by the two policeman. Furthermore, since by Mike Adams further analysis, the next shots, after Crooks initial volley, also came from the same distance, and quite possibly from a rogue sniper in the building beneath Crooks, that sniper could have known from hearing Crooks fire, as well as seeing Trump start to duck, that the shooting had begun.

    Once Crooks started shooting, and Trump ducking, the other snipers had little better odds than to start shooting too.

    ===

    On another detail - I measure about 840+ feet from the podium at about < 40.85701714634482, -79.97103688007017 > (Google Maps < latitude, longitude > coordinates) to the water tower at < 40.858690414503435, -79.96896243565621 >. So when Mike Adams gets about 1100 to 1500 feet, as amended at the end of Mike Adams' video, distance for the last shot, that is not from the water tower, but from some other high point, further away. It would take a careful analysis, that I am not equipped to do, of lines of site and elevations to determine what location(s) that might be from.
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    https://x.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1814785435895292325



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    The people below and tens of millions more want answers now!
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    Quote Posted by Satori (here)
    I still am not quite convinced on the water tower angle as part of the plot but am not entirely ruling it out.
    Given that none of Mike Adams calculated shot distances are in the 800 to 900 foot range, and given my above Google maps based measurement of about 840 feet from the podium to the water tower, I agree that the water tower is not part of the plot ... at least not to the point that we have evidence of an incoming shot from that distance.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I'd not been aware so far of Scott Ritter's view on all this. Here he is (with Larry Johnson, too) talking yesterday with Ania K, who asks all the right questions. Ritter is no Trump supporter, not at all. But he's 100% sure this was allowed to happen.

    That part of the conversation is only at the start. The rest of the interview is about Israel, Ukraine, Putin, Orban, systemic Russophobia, arms control, and Trump's likely foreign policy.

    (Btw, Larry Johnson believes Crooks was the lone gunman. But it's crystal clear that he's unaware of the audio analysis.)

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    I found it quite strange and was surprised how adamant Larry is about even considering that there may of been a second shooter. He almost sounded like he was angry to even consider the possibility.

    A strange and odd position to take considering how ridiculous the whole situation is and that it hasn't been positively ruled out.
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    Too many of us "researchers" are talking about a second shooter so now it is being reported on Fox News that there was indeed a second shooter. A Butler Co. sniper team took a shot from the second story window of the building behind Crooks and missed and it was the sniper team on the roof behind Trump that killed him. (even this makes no sense as this Butler Co. sniper was basically right on top of Crooks)
    I had the video up but accidently closed the tab and now can't find it. When I find it I'll embed it in this post.

    The Gateway Pundit is also reporting on this:

    THEY KEEP CHANGING THEIR STORY: Feds Now Say a Local Sniper Also Shot at Crooks After He Started Firing on President Trump — This Only Took a Week to Report?

    ADDED: There's also rumor/chatter that Kimberly Cheatle will resign by Monday. (unconfirmed)
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    it's quite fascinating to watch the way MSM and "alt researchers" are grooving and shaping this narrative together in real time, watching them bounce off and dance with each other to try and get this to coalesce. this is like watching all 60 years of the JFK shooting research in real time and whatever the actuality i hope that you all are quite grateful to be incarnated here at this current time to witness this.

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    Moemers, funny I was actually just thinking its quite a time to be alive.

    And tonight, I was just hearing once again, low rumbling explosions in the lower Manhatten direction, similar to what I heard on april 29th. Like low underground explosions , continual.and I have been also hearing reports sent to me by a friend of national guard being out in places in the country and some saying, have cash and gas up the vehicles.
    Stange stuff in the air, who knows what tomorrow has in store for us?

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    https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1814843658849423624




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    🚨 Despite there being a Credible Threat, Trump says no one Warned Him

    • No one told me anything
    • I would have waited for 15, 20, 5 minutes
    • How did somebody get on that roof?
    • Why wasn’t he reported despite people seeing him on the roof?
    —— “You had people screaming, “there’s a man on the roof who’s got a gun. That was quite a bit before I walked into the stage. So you woulda thought somebody would have done something about it,”

    The full interview airs Monday.


    https://x.com/TruthHammer4EVA/status...15681910874605




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    https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1814838051262046630



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    Something I learned during the RussiaGate scandal.

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    Horowitz was reduced to **politely asking** these people to come in for a VOLUNTARY INTERVIEW with his investigators.

    Guess how that went.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    If you go to these coordinates in Google Map, 40.85918083715413, -79.969816963291, in the northeast corner of the AGR parking lot just south of Whitestown Rd, you can see a ladder up to the platform around the circumference,
    Hah - Google is blurring out a key part of the Butler water tower.

    The image of the water tower that I included in my post quoted just above, the tower that was near Trump's rally and that might have been a sniper position, is not taken from the ideal angle to see the ladder needed to climb up to, at least, the walkway around the circumference of the water tower.

    Substack author ArnGrimR, who has had some good insights into this attempted assassination, also has an image of that water tower, from a slightly different angle, taken from a position in the same parking lot, just north of the image in my quoted post above.

    The water tower image that ArnGrimR provides in his Substack article Single Shooter, after all! shows the ladder from a better angle than the image I posted.

    Here's what ArnGrimR posted:
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    I do however disagree with ArnGrimR that there was a Single Shooter.

    If you read ArnGrimR's Substack, he shows that all shots that caused other noticed damage or injuries on the ground came from about the direction of shooter Crooks on the roof.

    ArnGrimR does not show that there weren't multiple shooters all from that same direction.

    There could have been snipers below Crooks, within the one story building below Crooks, and there could have been snipers in the second story of another two story building, behind and above Crooks.

    ArnGrimR is clear enough in his substack article, but apparently couldn't resist the temptation for a good click bait title.

    ===

    So ... why in the heck has Google Maps just started blurring that ladder?
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