An important announcement following the closure of the WORM TONGUE thread

[Northern Boy]

Dennis if need be i could tell you things about Celine and Richard that would in fact allow you to understand to a greater depth of what`s going on then you are aware of It would change many heres opinion of this site and as far as Bill goes he is not the man you see on camera or here in this forum there is another side to him you will never know

All this friggening talk of ego take your Eckhart Tolle crap and shove it. There is an even larger problem going on here its called blind stupidity .

Despite what you Think Bill doesn`t have all the answers but how many times do i see the words " Wonder What Bill`s take on this is " And what do we conclude from it ? Let me spell it out if Bill says is ok then good enough for me. Whats wrong scared to make a decision for yourselves? i could put so much more in here But I`m holding off . But i will add this Bill can not walk on water nor turn it to wine he is no smarter then some others i have met on this forum> He has a vision of what he wants to see and is allowing you to do his brainstorming and create it along with him. But in the end his vision will still contain a hierarchy and thus we chase our tails once again

Gypsy woman I`m willing to bet Bill has made arrangements to have her reinstated as well as Lee . I for one would have ripped her a new a ss ages ago but held back out of respect Richard and some others . She has no business here and to use a quote from one that he used when JT was shown the door " I think She Is off her meds"

[Gardener]

Posted by Icecold (here)

Posted by TWINNICK (here)

Posted by Gardener (here)

Posted by Icecold (here)
LOL. It may not have anything to do with Admin or mods.

Be aware that there are specialised people or AIs who have infiltrated this forum.

Edit: to suggest a far greater problem that email security breaches. What I'm saying is that it is not ADMIN and it is not MODS. Speculative at the moment, Edit

This is not a fantasy I'm afraid.

Ok I was going to sit this one out because I thought that Bill would get it for what it was. Thankfully Icecold has broached the subject so I feel I can support it here.

So far no one has taken into account the influences of mind manipulation or hyperdimesional reality. We are pretty awake indivduals on here, some much more than others; however being awake to the world situation does not mean we are awake to our true selves, our psyche, the influence of existential attack as individuals and collectively. It's a fact.

They attack through us, they use what is our weakest link, that which is UNCONSCIOUS in us and protected by the ego. Believe me, when a strategic person is triggered there is very often little that person can do about it. We see it over and over again, both in our personal lives and on the world stage and everywhere in between.

From my heart I hope that Bill will not allow this attack to have its effect, its time to SEE when the poison is injected and who is used as the vector.
I have to go out right now but I wanted to get this down now before it is too late.

This work must go on.
g

G'day,

UUmmmm if you go back to my post (and some other members) you will find that there is referance to the manipulation of the ptw and their mind control, and we know about the (cray) and psyops crap imposed on us.

..Nick..

Yes nick, very good.

But what are you doing about it besides talking or knowing.

Sorry nick I wasn't all that clear, It wasn't specifically the technical (PTW) mind control stuff as much as the higher level stuff, ultra density/ combined with natural universal energy of the cosmos; (see Carmody's post). Timing is everything lol. And not to forget that they can travel in time and change things in the past which affect now for us. Anyway before I get off topic grrr....One way to stand a chance is for US at the PERSONAL level to deal with our own psyche; so we cannot be used as a vector. The clearer we get the more we see what's happening and head it off. Other than that we have to rely on those who do see clearly to watch our back until we can watch our own. (I'm a long way off yet but working on it lol) g xx

[K626]

Lot of the men seem to have the hots for this virtual Gypsy Woman. That is all.

cheers

K

[GoldenYears]

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
Dennis if need be i could tell you things about Celine and Richard that would in fact allow you to understand to a greater depth of what`s going on then you are aware of It would change many heres opinion of this site and as far as Bill goes he is not the man you see on camera or here in this forum there is another side to him you will never know

All this friggening talk of ego take your Eckhart Tolle crap and shove it. There is an even larger problem going on here its called blind stupidity .

Despite what you Think Bill doesn`t have all the answers but how many times do i see the words " Wonder What Bill`s take on this is " And what do we conclude from it ? Let me spell it out if Bill says is ok then good enough for me. Whats wrong scared to make a decision for yourselves? i could put so much more in here But I`m holding off . But i will add this Bill can not walk on water nor turn it to wine he is no smarter then some others i have met on this forum> He has a vision of what he wants to see and is allowing you to do his brainstorming and create it along with him. But in the end his vision will still contain a hierarchy and thus we chase our tails once again

Gypsy woman I`m willing to bet Bill has made arrangements to have her reinstated as well as Lee . I for one would have ripped her a new a ss ages ago but held back out of respect Richard and some others . She has no business here and to use a quote from one that he used when JT was shown the door " I think She Is off her meds"

Since you have no Thank You button..............Thank you for your post!

[Hawkwind]

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
All this friggening talk of ego take your Eckhart Tolle crap and shove it. There is an even larger problem going on here its called blind stupidity .

LOL Oh, come on don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

[truthseekerdan]

Please allow me to bring this message to everyones attention that reads here. Thank you.

Although I have stated in this post that I will be only an observer at least for a while, I decided to post this excerpt from the book "Convoluted Universe 3" by Dolores Cannon.

I have an instinctive feeling that it might help many that read it... My blessings to the Avalon forum, all members and guests. I love you all! We are all ONE with The Source.


D => Dolores Cannon

J => Janet (subject under deep hypnosis)

D: I know Earth was created with free will. But it was also
created with the idea of not knowing it was part of the Source?

J: Yes. It was an interesting construct of consciousness, in that
it experienced itself as separate. Where else could there be
more growth than in a situation where you actually saw
yourself as separate from your Source?

D: But you said the other races know they are all part of the Source.

J: Yes, they do. D: So can there be more soul growth on Earth? Yes.

D: If we thought we were alone, and then had to discover this all
by ourselves.

J: Yes. They have to discover the truth of who they are on their
own. Yes.

D: With nothing else to help them. I can see what you mean.

J: You have density here. You have the beauty. You have the
senses. You have much going on here, but you also have not
understanding. Look where you are.

D: I’ve had many people have sessions where they go back to the
Source. They seehow beautifulit is, and they don’t want to leave it again.

J: When you connect with the Source, it is the most beautiful
experience. So your question is what? Are the sessions
happening for them to connect with that Source?

D: Yes. Why is it happening? So they will know what it’s like,
or to remind them or ....?

J: For those that need to have that experience, yes. Forsome, it
would be too great, and they wouldn’t be able to go on. They
would just as soon leave. It’s different for each one of you.
Every person is different in terms of what they can and cannot
experience. And what it will trigger within their
subconscious, because each one of you is a unique and
individual fingerprint on the planet. There are no two of you
really alike. Think what a genius is the mastery of that.

[An Cailleach]

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
Dennis if need be i could tell you things about Celine and Richard that would in fact allow you to understand to a greater depth of what`s going on then you are aware of It would change many heres opinion of this site and as far as Bill goes he is not the man you see on camera or here in this forum there is another side to him you will never know

All this friggening talk of ego take your Eckhart Tolle crap and shove it. There is an even larger problem going on here its called blind stupidity .

Despite what you Think Bill doesn`t have all the answers but how many times do i see the words " Wonder What Bill`s take on this is " And what do we conclude from it ? Let me spell it out if Bill says is ok then good enough for me. Whats wrong scared to make a decision for yourselves? i could put so much more in here But I`m holding off . But i will add this Bill can not walk on water nor turn it to wine he is no smarter then some others i have met on this forum> He has a vision of what he wants to see and is allowing you to do his brainstorming and create it along with him. But in the end his vision will still contain a hierarchy and thus we chase our tails once again

Gypsy woman I`m willing to bet Bill has made arrangements to have her reinstated as well as Lee . I for one would have ripped her a new a ss ages ago but held back out of respect Richard and some others . She has no business here and to use a quote from one that he used when JT was shown the door " I think She Is off her meds"

With respect Northern Boy

Are you saying that Bill has an agenda other than to seek the truth?

Do you think/know that Avalon's existence is for a purpose other than getting the truth out there?

Regards

Elva

[SKAWF]

Big Brother house this is davina......

you are live on television please do not swear

[Carmody]

Posted by K626 (here)
Lot of the men seem to have the hots for this virtual Gypsy Woman. That is all.

cheers

K

I most certainly don't and won't venture within a 1000 miles of her. That is a personal decision. I feel that she is primarily divisive in nature and behavior. I feel it is foolish to allow her here. To me, this is a plain as day.

I think she needs to work those issues out on some other forum.

This is my last comment on this subject.

[Northern Boy]

Posted by Ross (here)
Hello all,

After 2.5 years of service to this Forum I am stepping down as a Moderator, as of today. I have lost my passion for continuing under the guidance of Bill, our founder.

However, I wish to state very clearly:

Bill Ryan is a good Man, a tireless Man, and an intelligent Man, who has brought many of us together. He has a clear view of his perceptions, but sadly I no longer have the confidence with some of his decisions in regards to the handling of Avalon, and what has happened with Richard is only a small part of that.

It is best for all that I step down and allow room for new energy to assist the Team in moving Avalon forward.

I wish to sincerely thank all who I have connected with and to the Forum in general over the past years. It has been an honour and a pleasure for me, in doing my part, with assisting Bill and the Team and all the members of Avalon.

I thank all of the Moderators and Admins personally, for many hours of hard work and commitment.

This decision is a sad one for me, but a new Team will emerge, taking Avalon forward into the unknown.

On a brighter note…I will still be a member here.

My sincere thanks to all.

With love,

Ross

I don`t blame you Ross bravo you need the change

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
it wasn't psyops, it was new mooners in the highest energy of the month...

This is a gathering of the gifted and we need a moon Calendar on the main page...

The members of this forum are more likely to be able to be consciously aware of the effects of astrology and the moon in their lives...and this whole thing from December 18th up until now--- is ample evidence of that.

They should not think in terms of woe on this subject... but instead... be damn thankful that it evidences itself so powerfully in their lives... that they are given opportunity to see it for what it is and deal with it.

Most others are asleep and have an incredibly difficult time in finding these things out.

Remember (or know), it is a subtle system (but ALL pervasive).

Subtle systems can control you outside of your capacity to recognize.

Understand?

Please become aware.

The ego is the thing that this entire forum and all associated thrust ---is about.

it takes more than recognition of the moon's effect on the psychology of the gifted...

Those going through it don't understand what is happening...

on a full moon, they are basked in light energies, but during a new moon, they are cut from that protection and feel alone attracting negative energies...

if they just understood what to do during that time they wouldn't feel so overwhelmed by everything... The whole world turns into their pet peeve, a chirp of a bird, laughter of children that normally fill their hearts are like fingernails on a blackboard...

they forget they are light beings and to heal they need to give light energy, which will automatically refill with more light and keeps flushing the negative energy away.

Imagine if instead of tossing barbs in a forum if they gathered their energy and poured it out onto Gaddafi to peacefully step down...

I've been taken out two months in a row during this moment so next month I need all of you to understand and turn this place into the comedy channel during the days leading up to a new moon...

[Northern Boy]

Posted by Globalcitizen (here)

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
Dennis if need be i could tell you things about Celine and Richard that would in fact allow you to understand to a greater depth of what`s going on then you are aware of It would change many heres opinion of this site and as far as Bill goes he is not the man you see on camera or here in this forum there is another side to him you will never know

All this friggening talk of ego take your Eckhart Tolle crap and shove it. There is an even larger problem going on here its called blind stupidity .

Despite what you Think Bill doesn`t have all the answers but how many times do i see the words " Wonder What Bill`s take on this is " And what do we conclude from it ? Let me spell it out if Bill says is ok then good enough for me. Whats wrong scared to make a decision for yourselves? i could put so much more in here But I`m holding off . But i will add this Bill can not walk on water nor turn it to wine he is no smarter then some others i have met on this forum> He has a vision of what he wants to see and is allowing you to do his brainstorming and create it along with him. But in the end his vision will still contain a hierarchy and thus we chase our tails once again

Gypsy woman I`m willing to bet Bill has made arrangements to have her reinstated as well as Lee . I for one would have ripped her a new a ss ages ago but held back out of respect Richard and some others . She has no business here and to use a quote from one that he used when JT was shown the door " I think She Is off her meds"

With respect Northern Boy

Are you saying that Bill has an agenda other than to seek the truth?

Do you think/know that Avalon's existence is for a purpose other than getting the truth out there?

Regards

Elva

you take what i wrote and make use of it any way you like Bill see`s a vision of what he would like to see as do we all it may not all be the same Mine is different then his and mine will be different then yours . I will live mine regardless of the outcome here and in opposition to any other


Truth wonderful word we are never subject to the real truth of any such whistleblower testimony here any one can see that. Most of the time before the video recording of any testimony information is exchanged some would cause grave harm to the whistleblower if publicly revealed so i question the information relaying people as to whether they have our , humanities best interests at heart, if that information say were to cause thousands to die to protect the informant that would that be considered OK? And I`ve also made mention there are 3 sides to every story Yours Mine and the truth . The Bible is a great example of this written by man yet we are to accept it as being the word of God Blind trust equals stupidity. Some say the dead sea scrolls prove it will if thats the case why are not all of the so called dead sea scrolls in the bible and just selected bits of it ?

[Swanny]

Posted by Sunny d (here)

Posted by Northern Boy (here)

Posted by SKIBADABOMSKI (here)

To whom is behind all this mess, well I hope your happy with yourselves.

are you blaming Swanny ?

LMAO@northern boy.....! Poor old Swanny

Hey don't blame me I haven't been here for ages


And less of the old

[Sierra]

Posted by Carmody (here)

dang ego. the closer I get to it..the more it freaks out and throws phantasms at 'me'. It gets very scared. After all, I'm threatening to sublimate an emotional and unthinking bodily interface edifice. The one we call the ego. I don't even realize it is happening, for the most part. I have to remind myself of it all the time. The ego does it's damnedest to prevent those thoughts from ever happening ...and will always try to remove them from memory. Usually it is successful, to some degree.

This forum is set on creeping up on it (ego). Whatever and however you and your monkey (ego) may decide to fight it.. ..that is indeed the underlying current at play. If one has never actually faced their ego they have no real idea how powerful it can be. It is the biggest challenge you own.

After all, it is the main mental interface component of the 'avatar interface' for the given soul.

I know I know ...
I just have to quote one of my favorite quotes from Project Avalon courtesy of the wise gentle Edina:

"I feel lucky if I can be honest, straightforward and without guile,
to me this is the best I can hope for, because I know it is very easy
to deceive myself, much less be deceived by another self.

That sense of discerning what is true and not true really begins by
becoming discerning of my own internal deceptions and lies, first.
There just isn't any shortcut to integrity, and without it, we cannot
possibly hope to see reality clearly."

I have recently (to record the searing attacks of my ego) started keeping what I call to myself, Notes of Honesty. These are ... I don't want to put an adjective here ... lies I know longer want to tell myself. These are truths I want to hear.

An example would be a discovery I've made about my astral body. Ego was beating me up and then I realized dispassionately: I have no personal power because I am unstable, emotionally volatile, and capable of harm. Ah... I can see my astral state. Oh hey! I can SEE my astral state! Here comes ego again but anyway ...

A clear signpost of my next homework assignment courtesy of honesty darling regardless of how poorly I have explained myself ...

[perfectresonance]

Posted by Fredkc (here)

Posted by John (here)
Admins, (Richard, Beth, Luke, Fredkc)
Have you ever read private emails of members that have not otherwise been passed to you through the normal PM system, or that were posted on the forum by others, or were posted on the forum in the moderator private discussion areas or that were sent to you as a result of someone using the abuse reporting system ?

Simple question.

Simple answer: No.

Don't know how. Never looked into finding out how.
(thought about it once. lasted about 5 seconds)
Fred

That's only half the problem.

So far, we are only looking at the people that we know could access the private messages.

What is still to be discussed is who they shared that information with.

And then, those individuals that received the information had a choice.

Did they act on that information to the benefit of those that accessed it in the first place?

Or did they report these breaches to Bill?



If there is going to be a proper cleaning out here, then we would be short sighted to assume the problem will end with Rich and Celine having been exposed.

They were not acting in a vacuum, were they?



People who used this information are on record.

Oddly enough the very tool of their misuse of power may have to be wielded against them: a record of their own activities which they assumed were safely private at the time.

The irony of it.

[NxTLvL34]

With all due respect, the references being made about Bill being someone else in private are creating anxiety for me.

I want so much to be a part of a family and I look at so many of my elders here with respect.

I wish to learn and grow together. But I can't shake this feeling that things are a complete illusion here.

In a world full of mass deception, I truly was hoping against the odds that I had found a place where people would be real.

But now with all the accusations and secrecy, I am torn.

I honestly feel like a scared child in my dark bedroom with the blankets over my head while my parents argue and scream at each other in the next room.

I need a hug Avalon. I'm scared.

[bluestflame]

just what we need ,yet another witchunt

great~

[ponda]

In my opinion what has been happening recently is a part of what i would describe as some of the baggage that comes with 'charles'.I'm not saying that it is charles fault,far from it.One way of describing it is that when charles said that if someone wanted to harm him or if he had to deal with someone then they would start to feel ill before he even laid eyes on them.This is what can be described as a 'negative influence'.I believe it is a separate conscious entity in its own right.

This type of entity is all around earth at this time but IMHO is getting squeezed out of our influence as larger and stronger cosmic influences come into play at this time.

I had a feeling that events would play themselves out in a similar fashion as to how they have recently.IMHO it is a positive learning experience for everyone involved.It can be a lesson to be mindful of ones thoughts and actions.

When i first saw the negatively named 'worm tongue' thread i thought of this negative influence and so avoided the thread but watched as the page count rose quickly.Last night when the page count got to around to double figures i felt the urge to have a look at the latest posts for some reason.This was about the same time that the drama was unfolding.

I'm not going to comment on who is right or wrong or whatever.IMHO it's not anyone individuals fault.They have been influenced by this negativity and therefore aren't to blame.It is very subtle in its influence but if you are mindful of your thoughts and sudden impulses you can be aware of it trying to influence you.

I hope a happy solution can be found for all concerned and some good can come from this and we can learn a lesson and achieve a positive outcome for all.


cheers

[MargueriteBee]

I say isn't it wonderful how this community keeps growing, growing up, wising up, becoming much more.

Question EVERYTHING!


HUGS TO YOU!

[Operator]

Posted by Swanny (here)
Hey don't blame me I haven't been here for ages

See ? That is probably the problem ...