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    https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1815499142904660285



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    JUST IN—Absolutely incredible. Whistleblowers have confirmed to Sen. Josh Hawley that law enforcement were stationed on the roof but ABANDONED the position because it was TOO HOT!! President Trump was almost murdered because it was too hot. This is outrageous in the extreme. Heads need to roll.
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    NEW - Whistleblowers tell me law enforcement personnel were in fact STATIONED to the roof the day of the Trump rally, but abandoned it, citing the heat. They also say law enforcement were supposed to be patrolling the building, but opted to stay inside instead



    https://x.com/RepEliCrane/status/1815453681267208597




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    This video was taken from one of the windows the Secret Service had access to, overlooking the entire roof.

    As you can see, they had complete coverage.

    Makes you wonder how on earth they allowed the shooter to access the roof, let alone crawl up it & fire several shots.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
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    Was There A Second Shooter? Owen Shroyer And John Cullen Debate
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    This is a well argued video presenting multiple shooters.
    [...]
    It seems like John Cullen is having as much of a hard time as I have, to get it across that Trump couldn't have been hit by that first shot...

    Yet, Trump, at the moment that first shot was heard, started lifting his right hand towards his ear... not possible with the constraints imposed on the trajectory of that first shot by the evidence occurring at that same moment along the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher! Yet Trump already had his hand to his ear by the time of the second shot and was ducking at the time of the third shot.

    That's why I am calling Trump's bloodied ear a simulation.
    So to be clear, as I understand you, please correct me if I’ve got this wrong in any way. Your saying that this was a staged event by the Trump team to boost his ratings in the run up to the election, right?

    So THEY, being the Trump team, would have had to in some way hire Crooks to be the patsy for this, a big ask, to say the least.

    THEY must have conspired to make sure that elements of Homeland Security, local law enforcement and Secret Service were in on it, in order to seem like they performed so poorly that day, allowing the patsy to be able able to mount the unsecured roof top.

    THEY must have instructed one or more shooters to wound and kill the other rally goers, to make it seem more real.

    THEY must have killed their patsy, who apparently wasn’t a stupid person and presumably would have known his demise was included in the plan.

    THEY must have put fake blood on his ear after the shots were fired and then in some way forced a doctor to lie about his wounds.

    THEY would have to have to include many many individuals into this conspiracy, thereby creating tens or hundreds of weak links, that would need to be cleaned up after the event.

    THEY would have to believe that not one of those weak links would ever talk.

    THEY would take that chance, given Trump’s lead in the poles before this event and seemingly inevitable presidential win.

    It seems like a lot to stage, given the obvious potential for failure and to be found out with so many loose ends and therefore lose ANY chance to become president. How are you imagining that these problems were overcome in your scenario?

    Occam’s razor suggests that for problem-solving principles it is recommended to search for explanations that are constructed with the smallest possible set of elements. To me, your explanation suggest the largest amount of possible elements, rather than the contrary.

    Have I missed something?…….x…… N
    Well , far fetched, but the planned assassination could have been intercepted and turned into a theatre play by team Trump. Even Trump may have been fooled wondering why the makeup lady glued a little thing to his ear that then went pop..
    Crooks up on the roof loaded with blanks and all the rest.

    The planners of the assassination attemt would all be guilty and Trump saved.

    Really far out possibilty and no offence intended...
    Btw has anybody seen video of the other casulties being shot and attended to afterwards?

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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    Quote Posted by Gwin Ru (here)
    Quote Posted by Vangelo (here)
    Was There A Second Shooter? Owen Shroyer And John Cullen Debate
    source:


    This is a well argued video presenting multiple shooters.
    [...]
    It seems like John Cullen is having as much of a hard time as I have, to get it across that Trump couldn't have been hit by that first shot...

    Yet, Trump, at the moment that first shot was heard, started lifting his right hand towards his ear... not possible with the constraints imposed on the trajectory of that first shot by the evidence occurring at that same moment along the upper edge of the stage-left bleacher! Yet Trump already had his hand to his ear by the time of the second shot and was ducking at the time of the third shot.

    That's why I am calling Trump's bloodied ear a simulation.
    So to be clear, as I understand you, please correct me if I’ve got this wrong in any way. Your saying that this was a staged event by the Trump team to boost his ratings in the run up to the election, right?

    So THEY, being the Trump team, would have had to in some way hire Crooks to be the patsy for this, a big ask, to say the least.

    THEY must have conspired to make sure that elements of Homeland Security, local law enforcement and Secret Service were in on it, in order to seem like they performed so poorly that day, allowing the patsy to be able able to mount the unsecured roof top.

    THEY must have instructed one or more shooters to wound and kill the other rally goers, to make it seem more real.

    THEY must have killed their patsy, who apparently wasn’t a stupid person and presumably would have known his demise was included in the plan.

    THEY must have put fake blood on his ear after the shots were fired and then in some way forced a doctor to lie about his wounds.

    THEY would have to have to include many many individuals into this conspiracy, thereby creating tens or hundreds of weak links, that would need to be cleaned up after the event.

    THEY would have to believe that not one of those weak links would ever talk.

    THEY would take that chance, given Trump’s lead in the poles before this event and seemingly inevitable presidential win.

    It seems like a lot to stage, given the obvious potential for failure and to be found out with so many loose ends and therefore lose ANY chance to become president. How are you imagining that these problems were overcome in your scenario?

    Occam’s razor suggests that for problem-solving principles it is recommended to search for explanations that are constructed with the smallest possible set of elements. To me, your explanation suggest the largest amount of possible elements, rather than the contrary.

    Have I missed something?…….x…… N
    ...and conspired to devalue his $DJT stock? Just that, in my view, blasts a hole in the highly speculative and erroneous mega conspiracy being promulgated. A smoking gun if you like that calls a nonsense on this being staged. It's a rabbit black hole that folks are being steered down.

    It was simply a botched assassination attempt, thankfully botched.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    Pretty interesting analysis,connecting dots with other events like the dramatic Biden /Trump debate,the republican convention,Ukraine , Crowdstrike outage, the sudden rise of Bitcoin ,The UK empire and how the assasination was obviously done to be exposed as a set up to create even more division & chaos. -
    --1hour.30 min--22 Jul 2024

    Marty sits down with Tom Luongo to go over the consequences of the failed attempt on Donald Trump's life.


    Tom on Twitter: https://x.com/TFL1728
    Tom's website: https://tomluongo.me/

    0:00 - Intro
    0:36 - PayPal Mafia
    8:35 - River & Bitkey
    10:17 - The assassination attempt fractured the timeline
    14:10 - Everyone knew
    26:05 - Divine intervention
    30:36 - Working with consequences
    33:26 - What happens next and will they try again?
    45:14 - Jamie Dimon and economic plans
    51:20 - Open source and AI
    55:23 - Perspective of decades
    59:11 - UK and France
    1:03:45 - Jab justice and Trump’s cabinet
    1:13:35 - Trump and bitcoin
    1:19:07 - They came at the king and they missed
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    This is a really interesting video....even this "expert" can't believe what's going on.

    US Government Brainwashing Expert on Trump Shooting & Human Hacking


    Chase Hughes is the US Government’s brainwashing and interrogation expert training the intelligence agencies, a neuroscientist, and the world’s #1 human behavior expert.

    He spent 20 years in the US military and trains intelligence agents and companies on human hacking, influence, persuasion, interrogation, and negotiation.


    TIMESTAMPS:
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    Something really weird is going on and is really way off folks!
    It would be wise to prepare for anything and pay close attention to everything.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    P.S. -- Some have been wondering why the reported location of the alleged sniper Crooks' body was several feet away from his gun, after the shooting ended. Perhaps Crooks never shot, and had already left his gun to get away, when bad guy snipers shot him, from a second story window of a building just behind him.
    Don't think that's the case, judging by this footage taken just seconds before the first shots rang out.

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    Gun to his shoulder and looking down the sight.

    It's exceedingly telling that, when pointedly asked during the hearing, Director Cheatle refused to divulge how many casings were collected from the roof. It's a straightforward question with a straightforward answer, but she deferred. What, in fact, if there were none...? That would throw a pretty massive wrench into the cogs of this unfolding narrative, which is messy as hell as it is.

    Pure speculation, as I suspect he did fire - but how many shots? Which of the *pops* from the audio analysis are his? And also, bringing us back to the original question, why, after the shooting, is Crook's gun lying yards away from his body?
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    Quote It's exceedingly telling that, when pointedly asked during the hearing, Director Cheatle refused to divulge how many casings were collected from the roof. It's a straightforward question with a straightforward answer, but she deferred
    and no photos have leaked out showing any. Total coverup.
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    Default Re: *** Trump Shot (but safe) *** Live Now on all News Channels

    "You should be fired immediately, and you should go back to guarding Doritos."

    https://x.com/thevivafrei/status/1815456008933904614




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    This is hands-down the most powerful and relevant exchange of the entire hearing from @RepPatFallon

    This alone is enough to warrant firing Kim Cheatle, charging Kim Cheatle, and jailing Kim Cheatle.

    The first of many who need to be held to account for the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

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    https://x.com/BrendanMcInnis/status/1815456753301286971

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    P.S. -- Some have been wondering why the reported location of the alleged sniper Crooks' body was several feet away from his gun, after the shooting ended. Perhaps Crooks never shot, and had already left his gun to get away, when bad guy snipers shot him, from a second story window of a building just behind him.
    Don't think that's the case, judging by this footage taken just seconds before the first shots rang out.



    Gun to his shoulder and looking down the sight.

    It's exceedingly telling that, when pointedly asked during the hearing, Director Cheatle refused to divulge how many casings were collected from the roof. It's a straightforward question with a straightforward answer, but she deferred. What, in fact, if there were none...? That would throw a pretty massive wrench into the cogs of this unfolding narrative, which is messy as hell as it is.

    Pure speculation, as I suspect he did fire - but how many shots? Which of the *pops* from the audio analysis are his? And also, bringing us back to the original question, why, after the shooting, is Crook's gun lying yards away from his body?
    I think shots 4 and 5 were Crooks, the rest, (Shots 6,7, and 8) were from snipers taking him out from 2, possibly 3 other locations.

    Someone may of climbed the roof and moved his rifle away from him before the chopper video was taken.

    There's surly a million and one guesses....my thoughts are just what's making the most sense in my mind and even so, I have no certainty about anything as this is completely insane.
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    Interesting video that debunks the idea that Crooks could have just aimed for the ear......x...... N

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    • What is an "ATF Agent"? Click here.
    • Assuming it was an "ATF Agent" ... or ... someone posing him to spread dis-info.
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    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1815728164846633364



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    Once done, i will provide the model for any/all who want it. It will be rendered in blender after the reconstruction in wire frame through Meshroom2Blender.

    This should allow for accurate measurements including all the humans involved.

    It's my contention that the shot taken at the snipers only cleared the top of the roof they were on by about 2 feet in order to sail along the back row of the oblique (on the right side) bleachers .

    That would have meant that the tree-shooter(s) were only about 28 feet up in that first (recessed) large tree.


    https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status...25935515328762



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    The Secret Service Counter Snipers were being shot at.

    By whom?

    There was a tree between them and Crooks.

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Someone may of climbed the roof and moved his rifle away from him before the chopper video was taken.
    I'm by no means an expert in police methodology or forensics, so correct me if I'm wrong but...that to me sounds like (cough) tampering with evidence and/or a crime scene. So is hosing down the roof when the shooter's body is still warm.
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    "Who is this man in the GRAY suit at Trump's assassination attempt?" Senator Johnson | Redacted News

    Senator Ron Johnson revealed stunning new information about the mystery surrounding Trump’s assassination attempt.


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    Now she needs to have charges filed against her....

    LIVE: Secret Service Director Kim Cheatle resigns following Trump assassination attempt



    Now she's probably going to accidently fall off a 50 story building.....
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    • Lefties losing it: Rita Panahi Exposes Kamala Harris’ Cringeworthy Moments:

    Sky News host Rita Panahi has reacted to some of Kamala Harris' cringeworthy moments as the Vice President appears likely to become the Democratic presidential nominee.

    It comes as US President Joe Biden officially ended his bid for re-election following mounting pressure for him to drop out after his disastrous debate performance against Donald Trump.

    “Kamala, this is the woman they want to be the most powerful leader in the world remember when she was finally asked about her failures as the border czar,” Ms Panahi said.

    “And don't ever have her explain international conflicts. That's wrong.”
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    She's resigned. Reported on Zero Hedge 15 minutes ago:
    Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns

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    Her resignation comes after a bipartisan grilling on Monday, with numerous Republicans and at least one Democrat lawmaker demanding she resign, as her agency fell short of its "zero-fail mission."

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    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...heatle-resigns


    Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    TUESDAY, JUL 23, 2024 - 10:31 AM
    US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has resigned, one day after a contentious session with House lawmakers over security failures that facilitated the assassination attempt on Donald Trump on July 13, both NBC and ABC News report.



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    It just proves that there is a bipartisan desire for this to disappear.

    Major cover up operation going on now.

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    yes , all lies upon lies upon lies and then resigns.

    I believe there is a price for all of us, the good population in absorbing all these constant lies. I know I have been exhausted, I have a friend who cant keep his eyes open, strange symptoms lack of will or concentration. I have it as well. Lost my rudder, my purpose etc
    I believe we are short circuiting . How much can you witness and absorb that you know is % 100 BS? There is a cost for this on our heath

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    She's resigned. Reported on Zero Hedge 15 minutes ago:
    Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns

    (extract from a longer article)

    Her resignation comes after a bipartisan grilling on Monday, with numerous Republicans and at least one Democrat lawmaker demanding she resign, as her agency fell short of its "zero-fail mission."
    The real "zero fail mission" was to kill Trump, this whole thing is falling apart.

    IMO, Cheatle is in the know and is a HUGE liability for the evil-doers now.
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