Who is running the United States?

[mojo]

Biden calls Obama ‘puppet master’ as the White House slips into chaos

It's a question worth asking in light of how much Biden has been in decline. Can we trust Biden to have his fingers on the nuclear codes?
I think there was a video of Obama saying he wished he could run things behind the scenes, I couldnt find that video though. So now there is a report that Biden called him the puppet master. I recall Obama visiting foreign Countries after Trump left them, sort of providing shadow diplomacy. Is Obama running the Country?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zki0gClC_dU

[Dumpster Diver]

…the answer is: Deep State monsters…

Until we wake up enough people to throw these clowns out of power, they will continue to run things…but then a few realize something is going on…and…then…they fall in love with Trump, another monster…lots of traps for the unwary.

…stack ammo and food…move to a very high place…find a survivalist community to spread the burden…and get ready for the end times (civil) wars…

…there are very probably no heroes to save you, you gotta save yourself.

[East Sun]

Why are we not more aware of who is "controlling" the decisions of where or what direction the country is going in?
I always voted either Rep. or Dem. depending on who was the political leader and who his advisors were.

If I don't like, say, Obama, I'll really check out the opposing party to see what they are saying.
As things are now in the USA we have to be very aware of the intentions of everyone in the political scene.
Not an easy task at all.

Being "tunnel-visioned" Dem. or Rep. does not make sense to me.
That's just my way of thinking.

[HiddenWindow]

I think it goes all the way back to at least John Dee (1527- 1609). He was one of the first eminent men to put into writing his desire to bring in a new world order and reshape society, religion, culture, etc. Much like technological advancements, this new order required building upon the accomplishments of other men. Albeit accomplishments that always tended towards centralization and greater control.
The obvious answer is that no one man actually controls the U.S, and the same is likely true for other countries. U.S lies are just so overt that everyone can see through the "democracy" veil. The name of the game is centralization so that you have less and less control. Or to put it in a humorous way, watch the Yes, Prime Minister explanation.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gmOvEwtDycs

[Rawhide68]

Who are running the United States?

Well now it's Israel with 86% of congress members in USA gets their money from ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1f6nUmeyFg

[shaberon]

Posted by mojo (here)
Is Obama running the Country?

Obama didn't run himself, probably at any point in his life.

Thinking in Carrol Quigley terms here.

I don't think this can be traced to a single person, and perhaps not even humanity, I have come to think it is just "numbers" who can coldly replace any person observing them. Like when the numbers say your Debt Service costs $35 billion this month. It's inflexible. The United States has ever only defaulted on a single payment, around 4 pm on a Friday in 1979. This is more like a machine running itself.

[Spiral]

I also think it goes back to John Dee ( and Edward Kelly) and the Hermeticists behind the charade that people think of as Queen Elizabeth the First .

I think they brought into the core of our civilisation entities that ruled ancient Babylonia from behind the veil, which is why (IMHO) it's so hard to pin-point a human at the centre of this, because the controlling intelligence is not human.

This is why there is so much occult activity involved in "higher circles" and why mainstream culture is so blatantly "satanic", I think it also explains why the people who hold offices of power so obviously lack the requisite intelligence to do so.

[Rizotto]

Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
Who are running the United States?

Well now it's Israel with 86% of congress members in USA gets their money from ...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y1f6nUmeyFg

Yep, unfortunately very true. But the zionist lobby is sucking USA dry, what with all these wars they got the USA military to fight for their illegal expansion in the middle east. This enterprise has finite means, however, surely they can see the writing on the USA wall. Which is probably why they've been seeking to transfer their operation to Israel and make it a super-wealthy hub of energy and trade route. Apparently that dream is floundering too, as so many nations are now recoiling from Isreal's deception, brutality and cruelty in their genocide of Gaza.

And still Netanyahu just yesterday stood in front of the USA congress to entice them to start a war against Iran. As if Iran is the main obstacle left in Israel's plan to control the middle east. Obviously it's not, by now they have a whole new bunch of enemies. As Isreal gets more isolated and desperate, there is a growing threat they'll use their illegal nukes to get their way.

Overall there are indications of a higher lever of command over the zionists. A certain agency that's coordinating the military industrial complex, the WHO, and WEF, woke agenda and electoral fraud.

[Vicus]

[HiddenWindow]

In Mikhail Bulgakov's novel, The Master and Margarita there is a part where Woland ( spoilers: the devil) say's "Don't be in such a hurry to think that you can do anything with this power of yours. In the end, everyone has to reckon with another force. It will continue, and you are only a small part of it. You have only a short time to live." It is fiction, but it is based upon the observable history that something seems to be moving man's actions across generations and centuries.

I have tried to trace Dee's influence across history via different centralizing inflection points that defy explanation. One inflection point that has caught my interest is Credit Creation Theory. I have traced its origins back to William Patterson ( 1658- 1719) and know the idea itself did not spring from William's mind, but have come up empty handed in finding an original source for the start of the theory. Patterson was the founder of The Bank of England, established within the legal anomaly of The City. The central bank went on to become a powerhouse of the British empire and a model for central banks up to the present day. From my read of the present era, it looks like the central banks are poised to become the primary lender. In every economic bubble the one constant was that the central banks desired more centralization for themselves. If an entity does guide the aims of men across history, then it would seem like D-day of centuries is arriving sooner than later. Once the central banks move primary lending credit creation into the repo market it will be a financial checkmate.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by HiddenWindow (here)
In Mikhail Bulgakov's novel, The Master and Margarita there is a part where Woland ( spoilers: the devil) say's "Don't be in such a hurry to think that you can do anything with this power of yours. In the end, everyone has to reckon with another force. It will continue, and you are only a small part of it. You have only a short time to live." It is fiction, but it is based upon the observable history that something seems to be moving man's actions across generations and centuries.

Many thanks for the reference (and a warm welcome to the forum! ) — I found the PDF, and here it is now in the Avalon Library:

The Master and Margarita (Mikhail Bulgakov)
https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Mik...0Margarita.pdf

[HiddenWindow]

I found the PDF, and here it is now in the Avalon Library:

Thanks for the pdf! My border collie destroyed my hard copy of the book along with two Dostoyevsky novels. The dog has a taste for Russian literature.

[bojancan]

I remember this video from 2012... and today just went through again...
It is interesting... after decade ... I see how nothing changed... became more obvious ... that you can see more clearly.. where the real problem in the US is... just a look into corporate secrecy and you will start to understand the problems...

Who Rules America? | Complete Series | ENDEVR Documentary

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=swovERCu7n4

Explore the powers that run the United States, the ruling 1% network of America. This documentary miniseries ties connections between corporate entities, the media, and the government, and how they work to govern society today.

00:00 The Debate Over Power
Explore the complex nature of power in American society today.

00:24:08 The History of Democracy in America
This episode turns back the clock to examine the evolution of democracy in the United States.

00:48:24 The Corporate Takeover
Examine the relationship between powerful corporate entities and power in America in this episode.

01:12:19 The Power of The Media
The media's role in the American power hierarchy is explored in this episode.

01:36:32 Money Dominates Politics
The position of money in American politics is the subject of this episode.

02:00:39 The Power of Wall Street
In the final episode, take a look at how Wall Street institutions factor into America's power structure.

[Chuck]

These might be top suspects: Bloodlines of Illuminati


https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottab...luminati.R.pdf

[Bluegreen]

Satan. . .

[shaberon]

Posted by Spiral (here)
I think they brought into the core of our civilisation entities that ruled ancient Babylonia from behind the veil, which is why (IMHO) it's so hard to pin-point a human at the centre of this, because the controlling intelligence is not human.

I suggest perhaps replacing "ruled" with "were present in".

It would mean the modern conflict is rooted in extensive ancient records, so there is actually little room for innovation here. It's already explained. What we have is a big hole punched between then and now.


I would recommend studying some of the translating work from Michael Hudson:

This word andurarum reappears in the Bible as the word deror. The Hebrew word is deror, which is obviously a direct cognate. And the jubilee year that appears in Leviticus 25 is a direct translation of Babylonian practice.

There’s a question: What happened between writing the Bible, including the laws about deror, and Jesus? There are hardly any documents, there aren’t any that have come down to us. We don’t know about if there were any jubilee years in Judea.

Haven't we always said, the related Roman records are sparse, for some reason there is no documentation on Jesus and associated events, conclusions are formed over a small amount of material?

On the other hand, there are thousands of cuneiform tablets:

When I began to study Sumer and Babylonia in the 1980s, there wasn’t any economic history of the ancient Near East. There were histories of the ancient Near East, but I had to go through every volume with general history, look in the index, and sometimes I would find debt, but more often there wasn’t. 

I had to go through the whole literature, and I realized that assyriologists didn’t want anything to do with economists. There was a very good reason for that. Since the 1920s there was an idea of what was called “Babylonianism”: The idea that everything came from Babylon. In practice this meant that everybody would project their own belief about how civilization began in the ancient Near East and the Neolithic.

 It was like a Rorschach test. The Vatican, who had Sumerian translators, thought that it was a temple state and temples ruled everything. Socialists thought that it was all communal. The free enterprise boys – the Austrians and other liberals –just ignored the palaces and the temples, and thought that markets and individuals traded, and that was that.


From the actual people who study cuneiform records, 90% of which are economic, what we have surviving from Sumer and Babylonia, from about 2500 BC to the time of Jesus, are mainly marriage contracts, dowries, legal contracts, economic contracts, and loan contracts. Above all, loans.


The rulers had what we would call an economic model. They realized that every economy tended to become unstable as a result of compound interest. We have the training tablets that they trained scribal students with, around 1800 or 1900 BC.

There are thousands of records, they are all very old, and almost all of them are about the same thing.

This is Monarchy:

Basically what you had in the Bronze Age and every ancient society was a different concept of time than you have today. You had the concept of time as circular. That meant economic renewal. The idea was that every new ruler, every new reign, began time all over again. It wasn’t really time, it was really the economy had to start from a new position of equilibrium. This equilibrium – basically freedom from debt, the ability to support yourself – had to start afresh.

He may not be an expert on calendars. In India, this principle is called Samvat, the beginning of an era. And so I can take for example, Harsha Samvat, was a definite moment in the 600s when he cleaned the slate to begin his reign. He basically said "go!" and then you start from year one. All other calendars are basically a retroactive guess at something that may have happened. Like Indian astrological calendars that run in the thousands, they were not started at that moment counting forward. Same with the birthdate of Jesus. Those things are ideas without merit.

Based on partial understanding, what was developed was a theological, or eschatological, Jesus. The difficulty is that "sin" is not a church doctrine:

Actually, the word for sin and debt is the same in almost every language. Schuld, in German, means the debt as well as the offense or the sin. It’s devoir in French. Basically you had exactly the same duality in meaning Akkadian, the Babylonian language. The reason goes back to an idea, called wergeld in parts of Europe, which is universal – we have it in Babylonia too. If you injure somebody: if you hurt him or you kill him, either you have to go into exile in the city of refuge, or the family gets to kill you, or you settle matters by paying. And the payment – the Schuld or the obligation – expiates you of the sin. So the word for the payment of the offense is the same as the offense, and you’d expect this similarity to occur in every language.

Some of the Qumran [Dead Sea] scrolls really proved that what was at issue was debt. The most important scroll is 11q melchizedek. “Q” is for the Qumran cave where they were found, cave number 11. And in this scroll collects everywhere in the Bible that talks about debt cancellation: deror.

Leviticus 25 is about the year of the jubilee: “Each of you will return to his possession.” In Deuteronomy 15: “Let every creditor release that which he’s lent to his neighbor.” In Isaiah 61: “Release the captives, release the bond servants.” In Psalm 82, the Psalms of David: “God stands in the divine assembly, he’s going to give his judgment. God will judge his people and punish the wicked.” There’s a whole collection and there’s no question that this is what is meant by the idea of debt and sin and obligation.



Well, you can imagine how upset most religions were when they found these scrolls. They said they must be by this sectarian group, the Essenes. They must be a radical group, sort of like the Trotskyists. We can just sort of ignore them. But it turns out now that biblical scholars have found that the Qumran caves seem to be the library of the Temple of Jerusalem. During the wars with Rome they moved the library to the caves of Qumran in order to keep them from being destroyed when the Temple was sacked and burned down. So these scrolls were the very core of Judaic religion.



The fight of Jesus against the Pharisees was about this. At first Jesus said: “Good to be back in Nazareth, let me read to you about Isaiah.” In Luke 4 it says that this was all very good, and they liked him. But then he began talking about debt cancellation, and they tried to push him off a cliff.

 So basically you have the whole origin of Christianity was a last gasp, a last fight, to try to reimpose this idea of the economic renewal – of a Clean Slate – that goes back at least to the 3rd millennium BC and probably all the way to the Neolithic.

So, the first sermon of Jesus was in reading Isaiah to say the same thing. *His* equivalent of Babylon.

The first "Christians" and the non-Pharisaiacal Jews were pretty much the same.

He doesn't mention that Jesus was a priest of Melchizedek, which is entirely relevant to the struggle that took place in Canaan. But this is the theme of 11q.

Perhaps surprisingly, Tyrants are the same cleansing of sin:

Well, by the 8th century BC, you had a similar evolutionary process occurring in Greece and Rome. Starting in Corinth, you had reformers, usually from the leading families, saying, “Look, we can’t just have a dictatorship and impoverish everybody just to make these mafiosi families rich. We’ve got to overthrow them. We’re going to cancel the debts and we’re going to redistribute the land.”

They were called tyrants. The word “tyrant” meant someone who paved the way for democracy by liberating the population from debt dependency, by creating popular support instead of just a very concentrated polarized land ownership.

Until:

People ran out to Rome and Rome built up a kind of proto-democracy under the kings. But the oligarchy overthrew them in 509 BC. And the oligarchs spent the next five centuries trying to fight against anyone who would try to cancel the debts and redistribute the land. And that was the constant cry throughout all of antiquity.

So I find the common theme that made Western civilization different from everything that went before was the fact that they didn’t cancel the debts, that Western civilization let an oligarchy take over. Instead of the basic rule, that debts have to be written down to the ability to pay, Rome introduced a pro-creditor law. All the debts have to be paid no matter what the social consequences are, no matter how much society is injured by families losing their land and the land being concentrated, the money being concentrated, the wealth being concentrated and political power being concentrated in the hands of a creditor oligarchy.

Romans denounced kings for trying to protect the people and the Greeks had tyrants for liberating populations from debts. Today, we say with President Biden, any country where there’s a strong leader that wants to build up living standards and prevent an oligarchy, like China is doing, is a despotism.

So today, any attempt at democracy is called despotism. And any despotic country, such as the United States and the client dictatorships in Latin America and Ukraine is called a democracy that has nothing to do with rule by the people. It maintains rule by a very centralized, small oligarchic ruling class that maintains power by assassinating everybody who doesn’t agree with it and doesn’t agree to be colonized.

So when you see how the language has been changed throughout history and you realize that we’re living in a kind of inside-out world, sort of like a Mobius strip ending up on the other side of things as you go through everything.

What has been "ruled" by "dark forces", therefor, turns out to be the later half of the Roman Empire, and its offspring, Europe and the United States.

In that sense, it is not possible to define the office of President of the United States as anything other than Satan.

The presence of "financial predators" and their sometimes success is present in the ancient records, but then a Good King gets rid of them. This seems to have been the plan of Jesus as well. It just happens to be the *same* as *all* the history of Babylon, which, as we see, was never investigated until the past few years by one person and some of his aquiantances.

We are being "run" by the obligation to forget and deny this.

It’s very funny: If you go into Congress – I was the economic advisor to Dennis Kucinich – you go into Congress and there’s a big mural with Moses in the center and Hammurabi on his right. Well, you know what Moses did? He gave the law. Leviticus, right in the center of Mosaic law, canceled the debt. What did Hammurabi do? Debt cancellation as well. You’re not going to see Congress canceling the debts like that.

If you look at the Liberty Bell, it is inscribed with a quotation from Leviticus 25: “Proclaim liberty throughout all the land.” Well now we have translation problems again. The word really isn’t liberty: The real word means Clean Slate. It means freeing society from debt, letting everybody have their own basic housing and means of self-support. And by striking coincidence, what does the Statue of Liberty do? She’s holding aloft a flame. And in the Babylonian historical records, when Hammurabi would cancel the debts they would say: “The ruler raised the sacred torch.” So here you have a wonderful parallelism.

 It’s been written out of history today. It’s not what you’re taught in Bible school, or in ancient studies, or in economic history. So you have this almost revolution that’s been occurring in Assyriology, in Biblical studies and Hebrew studies, and it’s all kept up among us specialists. It hasn’t become popular at all, because almost everything about the Bronze Age and about the origins of Christianity is abhorrent to the vested interests today.

Again, that whole school of thought is in saying "this is impossible", that debt relief would lead to anarchy, that a monetary statement is immortal and more important than you. You're not supposed to even consider it, you're supposed to say this Roman thing is the only way it can be.

Until about the 1990s, all western academia has been vested with a type of pro-Roman projection, which molded their views on Babylon and ancient India. So we have always been taught the wrong thing. It's very ignorant.

This momentum appears to be enmeshed in the "monarchy must be abolished" trend that came out in the 1800s. In the American Revolution, a significant minority, about 30%, would have been happy with Washington as King. They didn't understand Hebrew correctly, but, they were more or less aligned with the same principles. Most of the copycat revolutions are not--they were about removing kings and installing a central bank governed by a secular oligarchy.

This may help to explain why the popular forms of Christianity and Judaism are Satanism. They're not the work of their founders. Both have the same Leviticus, and, the ability to discover and trace something of great value, but you may have to do this on your own and painfully. There isn't a church or synagogue that will accept you. Don't answer to them. Appeal to the spiritual force it is supposed to be about.

[Dumpster Diver]

Nice, Shaberon…what do you think of the videos done by Paul Wallis which at found on YouTube?

[Inversion]

I can give fragmented data on the topic.

I recall Sean David Morton saying there's actually a person who owns America possibly as a corporation. He tried to contact him, and people covered for him. I don't recall if it was a Mason, Vatican or European royalty.

The long-standing pattern on this planet is to place a human run complex above an ancient non-human city/base. The decision to put Las Vegas in a furnace like area implies the source is reptilian who prefer higher temperatures.

The late 92nd degree mason Daivd Wynn Miller said American breaks down to No Mercy for the Sheep in Latin. Since there's a north, central and south American there must be a magnetic event that implements the No Mercy. Michael E. Armagost name anagrams to Earth’s Magma Coil. He was the third mate on the Edmund Fitzgerald that sank on Lake Superior on 11/10/75 with a crew of 29 and it was carrying iron ore.

Mark Richards told Kerry Cassidy China and the Vatican are controlled by the Draco. They're rumored to be infected by a femto AI called Black Goo. The United Nations building in New York was referred to the house of Draco by Kent Dunn. John Rockefeller Jr. bought then donated the land where the UN building sits and it's a stone's throw from Trump Tower. From what I heard they slaughtered animals on that land prior as if to prime the area in a sacrificial logic. I believe that came from a more recent Sean David Morton video possibly with Kerry Cassidy or Michael Salla.

link

Birth certificates are federal bank notes. YT code: huRp_L7VJmo (private video).

(11/06/19) We are outlaws until our mother’s sign the birth certificate then we’re under Masonic law. YT code: 4CfG5pl8H6Q (unavailable video).

(11/27/19) A person with a birth certificate is considered a slave under the maritime court. YT: hojd0B_I7A4 (unavailable video)

(06/30/21) We are considered cargo because we contain the commodity of DNA. I heard the Grays refer to us as containers or apes according to Tony Rodrigues. The birth certificate imprisons us. The black ink on the document means we are dead.

(02/28/19) When a person is baptized the Vatican owns their soul. YT code: sI542jqxMjM (unavailable video)

[meat suit]

I am pretty sure that something partly human or non human is on top of the food chain on this planet.
It may be from another planet, inter dimensional etc.
My favourate theory at the moment is that it is a breakaway faction that managed to carry on advanced life underground after the fall of Atlantis. The Belial faction maybe, that dark journalist and Edgar Casey often refer to.

If the deep state suvived the next pole shift in their Dumbs and reappeared on the surface generations later with space craft, genetic engineering etc. to dominate the surviving surface population in stone age state... Cattle to them..

[shaberon]

Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)
Nice, Shaberon…what do you think of the videos done by Paul Wallis which at found on YouTube?

Well, I don't know. I am much more a devotee of the written format. And from following this, I realized that it is not even physically possible for anyone to have had a clue about the ancient writings of Babylon or India until just starting in the 1990s.

I mean, you had some "information", but everything was lensed through the projection of supremacy or superior knowledge, and the foregone conclusions of academia.

Michael Hudson for example has about five books, loads of articles and interviews, some of which may be video etc., but can you think of anyone else who has put thirty years into potentially "boring" cuneiform tablets? I can't. Thousands of them have been photographed and are "on record" and are almost entirely ignored.

His findings *do* seem to mesh with what I see in other sources, and, I think it's very important, even amazing. That is to say, there was a "world order" at least as far back as 3,000 B. C. E., meaning international trade. Most of this was maritime. And throughout this period, you had a definition of a Good King, which was practically the same everywhere. This doesn't mean they are *all* good, and it definitely does not mean that all priests and business people were fair, but it does mean that goodness was installed and reigned many times despite the setbacks.

Until Rome. At that point, we find the increasing, until permanent, takeover of that type of oligarchy that does not care about human beings, and this has been passed down to us continuously ever since.

We can say that corporo-fascism can be traced to the 8th century in Carolignian France. This was the first example of public infrastructure transferred to private property in perpetuity. In this case we are talking about several miles of navigable river. Is privatization of water going to be the thing that makes us kill each other for something to drink?

Is it that hard to see that 8th-century French property has been "immortalized" and this bundle of property has simply grown under Roman-esque laws ever since?

Moreover, the "fair" attitude about property is the basis of all religions, which means that instead of being in disagreement, they are supposed to work towards one common purpose. Unfortunately the ball of property is coated with all kinds of mental deviations, leading to separation, and even internal confusion in the individual. In this sense, the "ruler" is Hypnotism.

People are hypnotized that the monetary numbers and properties are real, or immortal, or more important than life, and we cannot change it, to the extent that you better not even think about it.


America is not a corporation. It's a Sovereign. States are also Sovereign. This is a logical impasse, the only way it can work remotely properly is to understand the Federal Government has jurisdiction on its own property, only. This would be limited to a few courthouses, military bases, and forestry. The District of Columbia is a federal territory; Washington, D. C. is a corporation, that has federal properties in it.

A Sovereign cannot be bankrupted.

But once again, it's immortal, compared to "the Sovereign, King George", croaked.

Also there is no such thing as anything higher than a Fourth Degree Mason.

So, we are also being gamed by the CIA, etc., quite a good bit, in having actual information erased and replaced by charades. And yes, of course this is a Vatican technique--the ideal is to have willing servants. Historically, in Europe, the only places you might have been able to discuss anything *other* than Vatican doctrine were Masonic Lodges and Coffee Houses. So coffee was indeed called "the devil's drink" and banned more than once. What could be worse than something that makes you alert? Easier if you take alcohol and numb yourself to the servitude, right?

I suppose the problem that freethinkers had since the 1500s was mainly lack of information. The "real" Jesus was long buried, and they hadn't found the Babylonian seals. On the other hand, you can be fairly content that the "other side" doesn't really have anything special, either. They can't possibly have known, for instance, how the Egyptian Mysteries worked. They have their own pronouncements about stuff like that. Their strength is from the relatively crude things like mind control and bloodshed.