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    https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1816453768927408508



    https://thecradle.co/articles-id/26109

    Washington gives Netanyahu ‘full backing’ to expand war on Lebanon: Report
    Hebrew media reports that the army is urging Tel Aviv that ‘now is the right time’ for escalation against Hezbollah and Lebanon

    Former Israeli intelligence and security official Yuval Malka told Hebrew media on 25 July that Washington has greenlit a wider war on Lebanon.

    “According to the information I received from the delegation and what I know, Netanyahu has received full legitimacy in the United States to wage a war in Lebanon,” Malka told Israel’s Channel 14.

    “When he arrives in the country, he is expected to head to the ‘Al-Bur’ in Al-Kiryah, and from there he will start the war in Lebanon,” he added, referring to a military complex that houses the headquarters of the Israeli army’s different corps.

    Netanyahu visited Washington this week for a speech in Congress and talks with officials.

    The Israeli army has reportedly signaled to the government that the time is ripe for an expanded war against Lebanon, according to a defense analyst for Hebrew media.

    “The Israeli army is prepared for a major ground maneuver in Lebanon and warns: Any delay will be in Hezbollah’s favor when there is progress in the background in negotiations to release the hostages,” said Amir Bohbot, military editor and senior defense analyst for Israeli news site Walla, on 24 July.

    “The Israeli army is sending a signal to the government – we are at the height of preparations for war in the north, and now is the right time,” he added.

    Citing sources, Bohbot says, “postponement for another year or two will lead to the rehabilitation and alignment of Hezbollah and all parties,” and that “the achievements of the Israeli army will be in vain … Hezbollah will have difficulty launching a campaign against Israel without the two division commanders [recently assassinated by Israel].”

    “The IDF confirms that the forces trained for the ground maneuver mission in Lebanon, including forces that have gained significant experience in the Gaza Strip, raise the IDF to a very high level of competence.”

    Meanwhile, Hebrew newspaper Makan reported that the Israeli navy held a reception ceremony on Wednesday for two new US-made landing ships at a naval base in Haifa.

    Combat systems will be installed on the two vessels before they enter service on “several fronts.”

    Despite Bohbot’s comments, Maariv newspaper reported on Wednesday that the Israeli army is losing its readiness to launch an all-out war against Lebanon and Hezbollah because its forces have been worn out from almost 300 days of fighting in Gaza.

    Hezbollah released the third episode of its “Hoopoe” series on 24 July, revealing recent drone footage of the sensitive and strategic Ramat David Airbase and several other important sites it is capable of striking in the event of all-out war with Israel.

    The Lebanese resistance group has recently struck new Israeli settlements not previously targeted in response to assassinations and indiscriminate Israeli attacks on south Lebanon.

    Its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has warned Israel that it is prepared to fight “without limits, rules, or restraints” if a wide-scale war is waged against Lebanon.

    In a speech on 17 July, Nasrallah responded to increased Israeli threats against Lebanon and to a recent Hebrew media report that Tel Aviv faces a significant shortage of tanks due to losses in Gaza, saying, “If your tanks come to Lebanon and its south, you will not suffer a shortage of tanks because you will have no tanks left.”
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Text:
    "We don't consider him a war criminal, he is an ally, he is a partner and a friend"

    White House spokesperson John Kirby responded to a journalist's question about the US hosting war criminal Netanyahu, asserting that the US does not agree with the ICC's ruling and finds it neither "relevant nor appropriate."

    He's lying. Israel hasn't got any allies.

    The rest of it, "partner and friend", and disagreeing with the ruling, is of course their true attitude.

    The Federal Government most be reduced to its territories, DC, Puerto Rico, Guam, and whatever else that is "not a state"

    This is a dreadful enemy within. Their ideas are more important than life. This is obviously an unacceptable death cult.

    Meanwhile, a new example which may become a trend:


    Quote The second statement affirmed that the Islamic Resistance fighters in the air defense units launched anti-aircraft missiles at enemy warplanes inside Lebanese airspace in the south, forcing them to retreat and withdraw behind the Lebanese border with occupied Palestine.

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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/...nity-deal-hold

    ‘Pressure for this to succeed’: Will Fatah-Hamas unity deal hold?
    It remains to be seen if there’s political will within Fatah while Israel may try to derail the agreement, analysts say.

    Palestinian factions signed a “national unity” deal on Tuesday, raising hope and doubt that rival movements can reconcile their ideological differences and bitter history to lobby for an end to Israel’s occupation, analysts say.

    The deal was signed in the Chinese capital Beijing after three days of intensive talks that laid the groundwork for an interim “national reconciliation” government to assume control over post-war Gaza and advance the shared quest for self-determination. Yet, the breakthrough has generated scepticism since multiple previous attempts at reconciliation between Fatah and Hamas have failed.

    “A dose of scepticism is warranted, but I’m hopeful this agreement will stick,” said Omar Rahman, an expert on Israel-Palestine for the Middle East Council on Global Affairs think tank in Doha, Qatar.

    “There is pressure for this to succeed, given the context … in Gaza and the West Bank. I think all sides know this needs to happen,” said Rahman, referring to the urgency brought on by the war in Gaza and the uptick in settler violence and land confiscation in the occupied West Bank.

    Since a Hamas-led attack on Israeli communities and military outposts on October 7, in which 1,139 people were killed and 251 taken captive, Israel has responded with a devastating onslaught on Gaza that may amount to genocide, according to UN experts.

    Over the last nine months, Israel has killed more than 39,000 Palestinians and uprooted nearly all of Gaza’s 2.3 million people. The war in Gaza has dominated international headlines, enabling Israel to also quietly seize more Palestinian land in the occupied West Bank in 2024 than any other year in the past three decades.

    As Israel has entrenched its occupation, the two major Palestinian factions Fatah and Hamas remained divided. The former controls most of the West Bank via the Palestinian Authority (PA) – an entity born out of the 1993 Oslo Accords, in which Fatah was promised Palestinian statehood in exchange for renouncing violence and recognising Israel.

    In contrast, Hamas remained committed to armed struggle and has controlled Gaza since expelling Fatah in a brief civil war between the two sides in 2007.

    Despite the bloody history, both sides joined 12 smaller factions to sign the Beijing deal that ultimately aims to create a Palestinian state on Israeli-occupied East Jerusalem, the wider West Bank and Gaza – land Israel captured in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war – according to a copy of the agreement that Al Jazeera obtained.

    Will the deal hold?

    Fatah and PA leader Mahmoud Abbas, known also as Abu Mazen, have undermined previous reconciliation deals with Hamas, said Tahani Mustafa, a Palestinian expert with the International Crisis Group (ICG).

    She told Al Jazeera that Abbas – and his cohort of close confidantes – have not demonstrated a real political will to unify the Palestinian leadership to challenge Israel’s occupation.

    Fatah has sole control over the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), an entity that, in theory, represents Palestinians internationally, and fears losing its majority if Hamas and other factions are represented in the body, said Mustafa.

    “If you add Hamas and say Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), then Fatah no longer has a monopoly,” she told Al Jazeera.

    Israel and the United States could also try to undermine the reconciliation agreement.

    The former has refused to allow the PA or Hamas to assume control over Gaza in a post-war scenario and the latter has long called for Hamas to recognise Israel and renounce violence before being part of a Palestinian government.

    In 2017, Hamas presented a new charter that accepted the formation of a Palestinian state along the 1967 borders. The move – in line with previous statements and moves made by Hamas – amounted to a de facto recognition of Israel.

    “Hamas never [explicitly] recognised Israel’s right to exist because there was never pressure on Israel for it to do the same for Palestinians,” Mustafa told Al Jazeera.

    Hugh Lovatt, an expert on Israel-Palestine for the European Council for Foreign Affairs, added that there is a clear likelihood that Israel will aim to derail this agreement by pressuring its Western allies to withhold funds from the PA.

    “The PA – in its current configuration – can only survive through its close cooperation and funding support from the US and Europe,” he told Al Jazeera.

    “But this isn’t just a question of the PA survival but the personal survival of key PA figures who … have very little interest in any deal that could undermine their own personal standing.”

    Al Jazeera reached out to Nabil Abu Rudeineh, a spokesperson for the PA presidency, as well as Husam Zomlot who heads the PA’s mission in the United Kingdom, for comment. Neither responded to requests for comment before publication.

    But the PA, for its part, has blamed Hamas for the collapse of previous unity deals due to its refusal to adhere to the terms of the Oslo Accords, such as formally recognising Israel and renouncing violence, Lovatt said.

    “What we see Abbas say … is that we do want an agreement, but one that is based on international legitimacy,” he added.

    Why does this deal matter?

    While previous reconciliation agreements have fallen apart, Rahman said that it is essential for this one to succeed.

    He believes winds are shifting regarding international opinion on Israel-Palestine, opening up an opportunity for a united Palestinian leadership to push for an end to the “genocide” in Gaza and Israel’s “annexionist push” in the West Bank.

    An “advisory opinion” by the International Court of Justice (ICJ), also known as the World Court, recently classified Israel’s 57-year occupation of East Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza as “illegal.” The court said that continued Israeli presence on occupied Palestinian territory including through the building and expanding of settlements is “in violation of international law”.

    Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the ruling “absurd“ and said that it cannot be illegal for Israelis to live “in their own communities in our ancestral home”.

    “The situation is clearly dire and the Palestinians need some sort of unified leadership to rally the international community in the defence of Palestinians,” Rahman said.

    Yet that unity does not have an endorsement — at least not yet — from the global actor most influential in shaping the direction of the war: the US.

    US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller commented on the deal at a news briefing Tuesday, saying, “There can’t be a role for a terrorist organisation.”

    Hamas is a designated “terrorist” group by the US, Israel and the European Union, but many Palestinians view it as a legitimate resistance group.

    Lovatt said that even if the PA is committed to implementing the agreement – by consulting Hamas and the other factions in decision-making – US pressure could sabotage Palestinian unity.

    “It really could be the decisive factor,” he said. “The question is: Will [Abbas] remain committed, or backtrack in the face of international pressure?”
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    Here is another tiny hint about what we saw earlier:


    Quote The full extent of Hezbollah air defense capabilities remains unknown. However, it has been confirmed that the group possesses advanced medium-range air defense systems, at least including the Iranian-made Sayyad-2 anti-aircraft missile.

    A recent Israeli military assessment concluded that the IAF will need to take risks to combat Hezbollah’s air defenses in case of a full-blown war with Lebanon, according to the Times of Israel.

    The IAF has assessed that some of its fighter jets may be shot down by the group during such a war, and risks will need to be taken to obtain aerial superiority during the first days.
    Sayyad-2 is a:


    ...reverse engineered version of the RIM-66 Standard Missile (SM-1) naval surface-to-air missile that Iran obtained from the United States before the 1979 revolution.


    Not much more is known about it; Iran seems to have changed the fins and made it operable with the S-200, so it potentially can intercept ballistic missiles as well.

    We would guess it took out the Hermes drones, but, has not yet hit an F-16 in three attempts.

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    On the protests in DC July 24th........

    ..well, here's a surprise (not):



    And for those of you interested in seeing some of what went on, penguinsix - as he typically does on a daily basis - got right into the thick of it to video and photograph events at Union Station.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    On the protests in DC July 24th........

    ..well, here's a surprise (not)...]

    Yes of course. Happens to any grass roots. Who has an "Arabic-sounding name and middle eastern appearance"? What sounds like Arabic?

    Same principle of making Arab crypto-Jews, like, perhaps, the founder of the House of Saud.

    Of course, the thing to do would be to take their offer and sabotage *their* operation. I could do that. If they can afford me, maybe I will. The Stasi did this to the CIA for at least twenty years. Africans are doing it now.

    Another thing to do is just hunt it down and sabotage it without actually joining. That would be fine.

    If anyone can expose the source of funds, even better.

    I may look into this later. There just aren't Zionist edifices in my area to keep me occupied. We just have the assumptions hidden in churches, which is more difficult.

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    Mehdi and Rula Jebreal on the ICJ ruling and Israel's illegal occupation


    The International Court of Justice, the ICJ, issued a landmark 83-page opinion on Friday agreeing with the decades-long assertions from Palestinians that Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is unlawful and should come to an end “as rapidly as possible”. Award-winning journalist and Zeteo contributor Rula Jebreal joins Mehdi to talk about what the historic decision means, what it could lead to, and shares some strong opinions about Vice President Kamala Harris, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

    Netanyahu seeking to mend ties with Trump in Mar-a-Lago meeting


    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s top wish will be to mend fences with Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump during their meeting in Mar-a-Lago later today.
    Trump and Netanyahu had a fall-out in early 2021 after the Israeli prime minister became one of the first world leaders to congratulate Joe Biden on his presidential election victory, disregarding Trump’s claim that the election had been stolen from him.
    Hassan Barari, analyst and professor at Qatar University, has told Al Jazeera that Netanyahu “understands that Trump doesn’t care about the Palestinians but wants a transactional policy whereby he can continue the Abraham accords“.
    On the other hand, the likely Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris has suggested that “if she’s elected she will take a different approach on Gaza, and this carries a huge weight” for Netanyahu, Barari said.

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    US vice president meets with Israeli PM: Kamala Harris reiterates call for Gaza ceasefire deal

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    Text:
    Incredible:
    The pro-Israeli forces of the Palestinian Authority surrounded the wounded al-Qassam commander Abu Shuja', cornered in the government hospital in ToulQarm, West Bank. Civilians broke into the Thabit-Thabit hospital, protected him and evacuated him to safety.
    #Israel arms the settlers to attack, kill and burn the Palestinian property in the West Bank together with the occupation forces, and the Palestinian Authority forces turn their guns against the Palestinian resistance. The reaction of the people speaks volumes about their choices.

    https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1816815104739934395

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    West’s support Israel but not necessarily Netanyahu : Marwan Bishara



    Al Jazeera’s senior political analyst Marwan Bishara highlights that while the West supports Israel, this support does not necessarily extend to Netanyahu. He emphasizes that the Labour government in Britain is simply correcting what he sees as a misguided policy of Sunak by refraining from involvement in issues that are none of the UK's business.
    Bishara suggests that the International Criminal Court (ICC) would determine its own jurisdiction...

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    I thought Trump was pro Israel? fooled again--12 min--26 Jul 2024 #TheJimmyDoreShow
    'For decades we’ve been hearing from Israeli politicians and their Zionist apologists that they would love to make a deal but, sadly, they just don’t have a sincere negotiating partner among the Palestinians. The subtext being that Palestinians all want to wipe Israel off the map, so how do you negotiate with them? But now Donald Trump comes along and he realizes the truth, which is that Benjamin Netanyahu clearly has no interest in making peace with the Palestinians, and his Israeli government is the one looking to seize all of “greater Israel” as the completion of the Zionist project.

    Jimmy discusses why it makes sense that Trump would want to make a deal and what his promises of bringing peace to the Middle East suggest for what he will do as president.'

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    Trump: Kamala is against Israel... Really????

    Trump Claims Netanyahu Insulted By Kamala Harris, Sends Election Message To American Jews | US News


    From today!!!

    Chaotic scenes as casualties rushed to Deir el-Balah hospital

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    History loves to repeats... interesting video..
    Believing in B is like believing your spouse... when you catch him or her in the bed with another person...

    "Iran’s Useful Idiots" - Heated Debate: Netanyahu BLASTS Anti-Israel Protesters in Congress Speech

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    ...

    ... Scott Ritter delivers quite an impassioned earful about Netanyahu in this interview:

    Scott Ritter: Israel Faces Unthinkable Defeat Against Iran & Hezbollah: Is This The End? 34:22

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