An important announcement following the closure of the WORM TONGUE thread

[Northern Boy]

why ask me if you must know why not just ask Bill or better yet visit PA1 and Start reading all the threads there why the need fro me to have to explain it . Perhaps Charles could RV me and share it with you all tonite while i`m sleeping . Like i have said in the past posts nothing is ever as it seems now those here that wish to move forward can do so those that wish to uncover go read you have two options it is no longer up for debate . If Richard publish`s his post on another forum it will undoubtably make its way here so Read move on or stay tuned . I just trying to move forward it is a select few that need to be fed and who have no horse in this race that keep bringing it up .

[SteveX]

Posted by Northern Boy (here)

Posted by SteveX (here)

I've more to say on the Richard and Celine thing but it's ABSOLUTLY necessary to ABSORB the above and RECOGNISE it for the VINDICTIVE act it could have been.

On who`s part would appear to be vindictive when you don`t have the facts Bill is making an assumption here there was no proof unless the mods who say this was going to happen step forward and give testimony to it as fact.

Mate, your asking me a question that should be asked of Bill....if you don't trust his PUBLIC word.

Disern this

Did Celine start yet another meaningless self serving thread? yes / no
Did Celine, in that thread, back handedly accuse Bill? yes / no
Was Lee B replies truelly insulting? yes / no
Did Richard say he would insert violent act if not for the pond? yes / no
Did Richard say his Mod hat was off?yes / no
Did Richard with his Mod hat off BAN Lee B? yes / no
Do you think Richard abused his Mod powers? yes / no

Struggling with that? I could be assumptive and by being so...wrong. But you know what? I doubt it?

How about Richard, insensed by Celines drama of being let down by Bill, fell foul to her drama with an intent, high lighted in my ORIGINAL UNEDITED post, to shove it to BILL.....any good with that?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Illuminaughty (here)
I guess that explains why on the very day I became a member I was sent 3 messages that obviously were not addressed to me. I read through the first one and got the impression that I was accidentally thrown into the middle of some members argument. I will not say what was said or who said it, but it did strike me as odd at the time. Now that I've read about A.I's and Phony Accounts, it kinda makes sense.

With that said.......As a new member here, I have been reading through many of these posts and have been forced to sit back and ponder whether or not I should stay here. I'm hesitant to even post sometimes because I know that by the time I've read all the posts the thread will have been derailed. I've been a member of many forums before, but never have I seen so much hatred and anger tossed around with such little regard for dignity and respect. On the other hand I have seen and taken note of the many folks on here who are nothing but a shining beacon of love and light and I will gladly give them my undivided attention and respect. You guys know who you are!

I beg all of you to just to just take a step back, take a deep breath, go outside...do whatever it is that makes you happy and come back with forgiveness in your heart. We are all humans (most of us), so lets treat each other as such.

Welcome to Avalon, sorry about the mess, we had an unscheduled break in our normal services.
I think you should have a look around a bit before you go away, there is tons to read here.
And from your post, I think you probably have stuff to contribute.


Ok, people, I just had a message over the Imperial Network that 5,000 tons of organic carrots are waiting for pickup at Correlia.
Vader is off chasing Luke again, so I have to go get em myself.
Back later.

[Hawkwind]

Posted by K626 (here)
What about the airlock!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=usTps5wXDTA

[agentofchange]

Have no idea where to put this message, I am not an advanced poster! I was suspended from avalon five minutes before charles came on line for the first time and having only just got back on after a month i sent this message to Beth who was the moderator who suspended me that night.
She has just replied saying she is no longer a moderator and that I should ask a moderator, I have searched the word "moderator" didnt help-!
this was the question I asked, which I would still like a reply to:
" Re: You have received an infraction at Project Avalon Community Forum
would love to know why you decided I was a troll????? please point me to the messages, message or what ever that happened when five minutes before charles came on line, I was suspended, have never discovered why. have read your message above and that definately does not apply to me( was given a wikipedia explanation of a "troll" !!!!)
this was the first time i had been on a forum - my very short time on avalon.
the messages are still up there, please show me which one was a troll activity

Namaste
agentofchange
Linda

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Hawkwind (here)

Posted by K626 (here)
What about the airlock!!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=usTps5wXDTA

That should work.

Posted by agentofchange (here)
Have no idea where to put this message, I am not an advanced poster! I was suspended from camelot five minutes before charles came on line for the first time and having only just got back on after a month i sent this message to Beth who was the moderator who suspended me that night.
She has just replied saying she is no longer a moderator and that I should ask a moderator, I have searched the word "moderator" didnt help-!
this was the question I asked, which I would still like a reply to:
" Re: You have received an infraction at Project Avalon Community Forum
would love to know why you decided I was a troll????? please point me to the messages, message or what ever that happened when five minutes before charles came on line, I was suspended, have never discovered why. have read your message above and that definately does not apply to me( was given a wikipedia explanation of a "troll" !!!!)
this was the first time i had been on a forum - my very short time on camelot.
the messages are still up there, please show me which one was a troll activity

Namaste
agentofchange
Linda

Hey Linda. The way to find the staff is this, go to the front page. At the bottom of the lists of threads, you will find a button that is ''View Forum Leaders'' which if clicked, will show all staff and has buttons for PM and other really good stuff.

[Swami]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EOIgMRpCCdQ

[granny]

Posted by Yoda (here)

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
This happening now is a P#ss in Mississippi. But wot will happen the day when the flow

of energy is at a level so that telepathy spreads lika a virus? Wot will happen then if a lot of people

have double agendas and a lot of not exactly tasteful secrets?

It has been said that when all the little dirty secrets of the mind are out, a lot of people will choose to die rather than face reality.
Pierre

I have heard someone mention this before. Perhaps David Wilcock or Whitley Streiber. They said that some ETs who are telepathic have no secrets. Everyone knows everything about the other. At first I thought ... golly ... how embarrassing.

I thought about this long and hard.

Imagine everybody knowing everything you have ever done or thought. But then I remembered you would know everything too. We are all imperfect beings. Something to ponder.

[Mystique]

I am trying to recap what, I think, happened here.


There are a multitude of issues, and if we lay them out on this screen, maybe we can then give them some space to breathe.

Once laid out, then we can see what is our business and responsibility to solve as a community, and what is personal and should be left for the parties themselves to resolve - or not - between them.

So, What are the issues? There seems to many - correct me if I am wrong, I am trying to rely on memory here:

Gypsy Woman (GW) came on the scene presenting herself as new to forums. Some of think she misrepresented herself as a "newbie". Some think she is a plant, some think she is a victim, some think she is unstable and a provocateur, and some think she is dramatic but harmless.

Gypsy Woman (GW) was banned for an outburst against Spirit Wolf. Spirit Wolf was either targeted by GW or he targeted her.

GW went to Bill after being banned, and Bill vouched for her return saying she will come back with a vengeance. (Wielding a saber or something)

Celine feels that Bill divulged a confidence to Gypsy Woman that was then used against her? I think it had to do with the term, "bi-polar". Am I right on that?

Celine felt undermined by Bill's decision to back GW, and felt disrespected by it.

GW came back and started a rant thread. During this time she posted a picture of gun - which was removed by Mod. She had sent 14 members a PM that criticized Bill, Richard and Celine. IceCold said she directed a murderous vid directed at him, and accused him of threatening her and her son. Celine and her went back and forth with attacks. The thread was merged with another thread by Richard.

GW started another rant thread for Emma, and it was closed. GW was banned again for the PM's and threats?

Celine started the Worm Tongue thread because of the above and the stress and constraints put on Richard and other behind the scene issues she could not divulge - including a broken promise she said she had with Bill.

LeeB joined the thread calling himself a "guest," and some say he stirred up stuff with Celine. Richard stepped in to defend her and "snapped" making threatening remarks, and banned LeeB. Some say he made good points, some say he didn't deserve being attacked, some say he attacked Richard's wife and deserved what he got - out of honor.

Then there is the issue about PMs and whether Mods: can or cannot read them, whether they did or did not, whether they should or should not, and under what circumstances - if any.

What have I missed or gotten wrong?

[Mike]

N. Boy,

actually, you brought it up. which is why i am asking you. why would i scour endless threads when i've got you right here? hard to "move forward" as you say, when you leave irresponsible speculation like that up in the air with absolutely no explanation.

anyway, i can see this is going nowhere. no answers forthcoming, i presume...

[Tangri]

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
why ask me if you must know why not just ask Bill or better yet visit PA1 and Start reading all the threads there why the need fro me to have to explain it . Perhaps Charles could RV me and share it with you all tonite while i`m sleeping . Like i have said in the past posts nothing is ever as it seems now those here that wish to move forward can do so those that wish to uncover go read you have two options it is no longer up for debate . If Richard publish`s his post on another forum it will undoubtably make its way here so Read move on or stay tuned . I just trying to move forward it is a select few that need to be fed and who have no horse in this race that keep bringing it up .

Hi Nothernbiy,
I understand you know something, but that something I can not understand. I know that is a secret but you are tempting me with your cryptic talking. If it is a secret then don't say another word. If you write another post with telling nothing, I am going to add this reply again.

This is secret but I have to tell you;
Sincerely Love and Peace

[Northern Boy]

SteveX if i may reply


Did Celine start yet another meaningless self serving thread? yes / no

You know nothing of her , what happened in her past yet you want to be the judge jury and executioner Fine but watch out for you glass house Chicken man


Did Celine, in that thread, back handedly accuse Bill? yes / no

Refer to post reply 1 and maybe ask Bill or her why she did it Did someone reveal private info they should not have ?
Was Lee B replies truelly insulting? yes / no Friggen right he was
Did Richard say he would insert violent act if not for the pond? yes / no \I WOULD HAVE TOO IN HIS SHOES
Did Richard say his Mod hat was off?yes / no iT WOULDN`T HAVE MATTER
Did Richard with his Mod hat off BAN Lee B? yes / no SEE ABOVE
Do you think Richard abused his Mod powers? yes / no NO HE DID WHAT ANYONE WOULD DO UNLESS THEY HAD THEIR FREAKING BACK BONE REMOVED
can you get that

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Posted by Levent tonga (here)

Posted by Northern Boy (here)
why ask me if you must know why not just ask Bill or better yet visit PA1 and Start reading all the threads there why the need fro me to have to explain it . Perhaps Charles could RV me and share it with you all tonite while i`m sleeping . Like i have said in the past posts nothing is ever as it seems now those here that wish to move forward can do so those that wish to uncover go read you have two options it is no longer up for debate . If Richard publish`s his post on another forum it will undoubtably make its way here so Read move on or stay tuned . I just trying to move forward it is a select few that need to be fed and who have no horse in this race that keep bringing it up .

Hi Nothernbiy,
I understand you know something, but that something I can not understand. I know that is a secret but you are tempting me with your cryptic talking. If it is a secret then don't say another word. If you write another post with telling nothing, I am going to add this reply again.

This is secret but I have to tell you;
Sincerely Love and Peace

then let the sleeping dog lie or is it that hard to do ???

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by Mystique (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
So no ideas?
Just more bunfights?
Are we not tired of it yet?
If not, turn the internet off and go watch the wrestling or something, at least that is all fake.
This isn't, we are taking real casualties to our members.
How about some ideas towards solutions?

.
.
.
LeeB joined the thread calling himself a "guest," and stirred up stuff with Celine. Richard stepped in to defend her and "snapped" making threatening remarks, and banned LeeB.
.
.
.

What have I missed or gotten wrong?

Lee-B was already a member when he was posting, once he was deleted/banned from the forum then all of his posts showed 'guest'

[agentofchange]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
--------

Thanks, Aldous:

My calling out Tone3Jaguar for using a pendulum to assess Wade Frazier's information as '11% accurate' was fully justified. Do take a moment to visit Wade Frazier's thread and decide for yourself.

My use of the word 'stupid' was measured and deliberate. It was not an insult: it was true. It was an extreme demonstration of unintelligence on his part, and a destructive one inasmuch as he had a whole web page which announced his misplaced conclusions to the world. There are no double standards here.

After I had drawn attention to his postion, he left the forum of his own accord. All that was fine.

mmmm "STUPID - lacking in common sense or lacking in intelligence.
Trivial, childish, unable to think clearly "

I cant think of a time that I would not think I had been insulted if someone called me stupid.!!!! But then again i may not be given the chance to be called stupid, I wasnt allowed on here long last time, still waiting to find out why I was suspended and who called the shots on that?
I think most of us also know that this is one of the worst words to use since its the most common that uninformed parents use on their children constantly and damage them for ever.

[GoldenYears]

Posted by Mystique (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
So no ideas?
Just more bunfights?
Are we not tired of it yet?
If not, turn the internet off and go watch the wrestling or something, at least that is all fake.
This isn't, we are taking real casualties to our members.
How about some ideas towards solutions?

There are a multitude of issues, and if we lay them out on this screen, maybe we can then give them some space to breathe.

Once laid out, then we can see what is our business and responsibility to solve as a community, and what is personal and should be left for the parties themselves to resolve - or not - between them.

So, What are the issues? There seems to many - correct me if I am wrong, I am trying to rely on memory here:

Gypsy Woman (GW) came on the scene presenting herself as new to forums. Some of think she misrepresented herself as a "newbie". Some think she is a plant, some think she is a victim, some think she is unstable and a provocateur, and some think she is dramatic but harmless.

Gypsy Woman (GW) was banned for an outburst against Spirit Wolf. Spirit Wolf was either targeted by GW or he targeted her.

GW went to Bill after being banned, and Bill vouched for her return saying she will come back with a vengeance. (Wielding a saber or something)

Celine feels that Bill divulged a confidence to Gypsy Woman that was then used against her? I think it had to do with the term, "bi-polar". Am I right on that?

Celine felt undermined by Bill's decision to back GW, and felt disrespected by it.

GW came back and started a rant thread. During this time she posted a picture of gun - which was removed by Mod. She had sent 14 members a PM that criticized Bill, Richard and Celine. IceCold said she directed a murderous vid directed at him, and accused him of threatening her and her son. Celine and her went back and forth with attacks. The thread was merged with another thread by Richard.

GW started another rant thread for Emma, and it was closed. GW was banned again for the PM's and threats?

Celine started the Worm Tongue thread because of the above and the stress and constraints put on Richard and other behind the scene issues she could not divulge - including a broken promise she said she had with Bill.

LeeB joined the thread calling himself a "guest," and stirred up stuff with Celine. Richard stepped in to defend her and "snapped" making threatening remarks, and banned LeeB.

What have I missed or gotten wrong?

LeeB was a member....and became a "guest'' after the barb throwing with Richard and Celine on the Worm thread.

[cayman]

When you guys read about this thread and its related thread

Did any of you recall this most popular sentence in January?
Quote:

"Women is the key"

ring any bell?

[sllim11]

Posted by greybeard (here)
The ego would cause your death rather than admit it is wrong
It is that powerful.

Believe me I know

There is tremendous freedom in not having to be right.

indeed.

"we are certain that our intelligence, backed by willpower, can rightly control our inner lives and guarantee us success in the world we live in. this brave philosophy, wherein each man plays God, sounds good in the speaking, but it still has to meet the acid test: how well does it actually work? one good look in the mirror ought to be answer enough... ... ... should the own image in the mirror be too awful to contemplate ( and it usually is ), he might first take a look at the results normal people are getting from self-sufficiency. every where he sees people filled with anger and fear, society breaking up into warring fragments. each fragment says to the others, "we are right and you are wrong." every such pressure group, if it is strong enough, self-righteously imposes its will upon the rest. and everywhere the same thing is being done on an individual basis. THE SUM OF ALL THIS IS LESS PEACE AND LESS BROTHERHOOD THAN BEFORE. THE PHILOSOPHY OF SELF-SUFFICIENCY I NOT PAYING OFF. PLAINLY ENOUGH, IT IS THE BONE-CRUSHING JUGGERNAUT WHOSE FINAL ACHIEVEMENT IS RUIN." -twelve steps and twelve traditions



until you are aware of the ego and understand how powerful it is, you have no idea what you are up against. and the devastating weakness is that we are attracted to it...

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by cayman (here)
When you guys read about this thread and its related thread

Did any of you recall this most popular sentence in January?
Quote:

"Women is the key"

ring any bell?

hmmm, interesting.... care to expand....? you have a theory?

[Tangri]

Mystique wrote

Celine feels that Bill divulged a confidence to Gypsy Woman that was then used against her? I think it had to do with the term, "[B]bi-polar[/B]". Am I right on that?

If you are talking disorders here. It should be a clarification . Are you talking Personality or Mood Kind?
I do not think it is a mood type; like a bi-polar, My opinion is most likely Cluster B type

[Northern Boy]

Posted by GoldenYears (here)

Posted by Mystique (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
So no ideas?
Just more bunfights?
Are we not tired of it yet?
If not, turn the internet off and go watch the wrestling or something, at least that is all fake.
This isn't, we are taking real casualties to our members.
How about some ideas towards solutions?

There are a multitude of issues, and if we lay them out on this screen, maybe we can then give them some space to breathe.

Once laid out, then we can see what is our business and responsibility to solve as a community, and what is personal and should be left for the parties themselves to resolve - or not - between them.

So, What are the issues? There seems to many - correct me if I am wrong, I am trying to rely on memory here:

Gypsy Woman (GW) came on the scene presenting herself as new to forums. Some of think she misrepresented herself as a "newbie". Some think she is a plant, some think she is a victim, some think she is unstable and a provocateur, and some think she is dramatic but harmless.

Gypsy Woman (GW) was banned for an outburst against Spirit Wolf. Spirit Wolf was either targeted by GW or he targeted her.

GW went to Bill after being banned, and Bill vouched for her return saying she will come back with a vengeance. (Wielding a saber or something)

Celine feels that Bill divulged a confidence to Gypsy Woman that was then used against her? I think it had to do with the term, "bi-polar". Am I right on that?

Celine felt undermined by Bill's decision to back GW, and felt disrespected by it.

GW came back and started a rant thread. During this time she posted a picture of gun - which was removed by Mod. She had sent 14 members a PM that criticized Bill, Richard and Celine. IceCold said she directed a murderous vid directed at him, and accused him of threatening her and her son. Celine and her went back and forth with attacks. The thread was merged with another thread by Richard.

GW started another rant thread for Emma, and it was closed. GW was banned again for the PM's and threats?

Celine started the Worm Tongue thread because of the above and the stress and constraints put on Richard and other behind the scene issues she could not divulge - including a broken promise she said she had with Bill.

LeeB joined the thread calling himself a "guest," and stirred up stuff with Celine. Richard stepped in to defend her and "snapped" making threatening remarks, and banned LeeB.

What have I missed or gotten wrong?

LeeB was a member....and became a "guest'' after the barb throwing with Richard and Celine on the Worm thread.

Sounds like that is how it went down, yet GW gets the hall pass ???