Preparing to Confront the After Life ?Trap?

[Ascension]

Posted by Mike (here)
If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.

Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!

[Mike]

Posted by Ascension (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.

Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!

It's true, the majority of NDE'ers do not want to come back to earth. Many report begging to stay in the afterlife and even throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way ..like children.

But I don't necessarily view being forced back to earth as a sign of malevolence. I don't think it indicates a trap either. I just think it means you've been blessed with a wonderful opportunity to experience the afterlife but now it's time to return to earth business.

When you tell your kids it's time for bed at 9pm, or that they can't eat candy all day, it's not malevolence. And though it is acting against their will, it's hardly a trap. It's more like tough love. And I think that's the nature of the relationship in the afterlife when one initially crosses over, one of student/teacher or parent/child. Usually the NDE'er is interacting with what they believe is either an angel, Jesus, God, or some other ancient and wise entity that naturally engenders reverence. So the hierarchy is quite clear.

This is how it seems to me anyway.

[palehorse]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)

Posted by palehorse (here)
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Hi Truman, pardon my ignorance, I didn't read your books yet, hence the question: Is there a way to block their manipulation, is there any earth compound that interfere or block their signals effectively?

Thanks for the question, palehorse. That's a very good question. Unfortunately, I did not answer that question in my books because I don't have any answer for it. Wish I did.

Thanks for your honest answer, much appreciated.

First of all, I should mention that not everyone goes to the light upon death. Some people just hang around such as ghosts in a house. Others simply instinctively go to a hospital or find a pregnant mother and come back naturally.

Pretty much how I see and understand it too.

It appears to me that certain people are "chosen" for NDEs and between-lives abductions to the Mantis motherships. Indeed, as far as abductees are concerned, we are actually told by Grays that we are "chosen ones", as if to flatter us and make us feel "special". And I say this with a significant measure of well-earned sarcasm.

I have to say, I know nearly nothing about Mantis, but I knew about not following the tunnel of light, I think I got it from questioning the Tibetan Book of Dead, it is depicted as the reality during and after death, so it gives the impression that there is no way out of that processes (bardos), but seems like we could just focus on anything else than the light to avoid the reincarnation process, I always questioned these big mysteries in life, I still do.

I only worked with abductees and never ran across and NDE experiencer with which to do research. I could do that if an NDE experiencer wanted me to help unblock any memories regarding the experience. It would be very interesting to do that and I am very willing to engage in that research even though I have a lot of irons in the fire, as it were.

All my experiences with Mantis were death experiences, not "near death". That is, my body died, I went out of body through the tunnel toward the light. In one instance I actually saw where I entered the Mantis mothership. It was a concave circular surface on a round mothership. Of course, NDE experiencers do not see this. They only see and remember the illusion(s) (i.e., telepathic implants) that the Mantis implant in their minds.

The funny thing about this concave surface on the round mothership is that it looks almost exactly like the "death star" in the Star Wars movies! This may be coincidence or the author of the story or screen play knew or was told to depict the "Death Star" in this fashion. Or perhaps the author was unconsciously writing this into the movie script because he'd been there between lives. Who knows?

Anyway, I digress. Back to the question. This is my question, too, so I can only speculate on the solution to the problem. Since I obviously want to terminate the reincarnation cycle into which I was placed some twelve thousand three hundred plus years ago by the Mantis without my consent, I sincerely want to find out the answer to that question because I do not want my memory wiped again.

I spent a big portion of my life this lifetime uncovering the alien matrix of Earth so I certainly don't want to be recycled again back on this insane (but beautiful) planet. So what I have been doing is simply preparing myself for this eventuality by strengthening my resolve not to comply and simply not go down that phu king tunnel. That's the best I can figure out now.

I do understand their basic motive behind their actions in creating and manipulating an artificial reincarnation system for certain inhabitants of Earth, but I do not agree with the way they are doing it. Their idea is simply to dumb us down and manipulate us via mind control in their conspiracy with the Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians and other minor groups. It appears that various ET groups have their own agendas as well.

My question why don't they reveal the truth and help us to understand why they are doing what they do. They could help us instead of suppressing us if they wanted to.

When Simon Parkes was on Avalon he indicated that he agreed with what the Mantis were doing and even wanted to be one. This is where I part ways with Simon. He specifically referred to this reincarnation motherships as "processing" centers without explaining what he meant. He also said he wanted to be a Mantid. (In the US we use the word "Mantis" while the British say "Mantid".)

It has been said that the Mantis/Mantids are sometimes called "the ancients". This may well be the case because they possess the "soul transference technology" which Linda Moulton Howe refers to as "reincarnation technology". Frankly, Linda, I prefer my term better, but we are talking about the same thing. I've experienced it many times so I am very familiar with it.

This begs the question: Why aren't we allowed to have access to this technology?

In my humble opinion we are been controlled, I don't know exactly what I can just feel it, sometimes is a strong feeling. I used to not like the idea of we are food for whoever is out there, they feed on negative emotions.. I know for a fact of matter (met personally very evil ones), they love suffering (weird sentence), they feed from it, why all these atrocities with kids and what a about a fake plandemic world wide, all of this is not killing, is causing suffering, it is very evil in nature. So my ideas about why they don't allow access to this technology? it is very simple, if we all know about it, we can behave differently and they could potentially die (if we really are food for them), anyway seems like there is a possibility for us to cause disruption into their mediocre lives.

Anyone out there want to live forever and not have your memory wiped so you can learn from your own experiences from all your past lives? Duh!

Thanks Truman

[shaberon]

Posted by Mike (here)
A significant percentage of NDE'rs mention meeting Jesus. I know the prevailing theory here is that spiritual beings take specific forms to match the individual's expectations, but I don't recall ever hearing about an NDE where the experiencer met Muhammed, or Buddha, or Krishna, or (fill in the blank here). I'm not saying it hasn't happened. I'm simply saying I've never heard of it.

Out of the many experiences, what causes "near death"? Would much of it come in the category "self-induced at will"?


In order to do this, the "right doctrine" made a huge difference to me personally. That is to say, there is a quiet layer of our mind where are stored memories of past lives, and the transitions between each and corresponding heavens and hells, and so this type of mind must be utterly disconnected from our physical brain. There is no way it could possibly be the same thing. Nor do we likely become physically aware of the domain of Immortality.

By adding this idea to meditation--that there is something I don't personally know, yet, this death consciousness must be "more real" and bigger than me--the right attitude and openness allowed it to present itself.


Because that is what I followed, I have an unusually massive inner familiarity with subtle yoga and death consciousness. Because I did not add other parts of the meditation, I skipped any interest about the Other Side, which has to do with Vimana or shall we say constructing one's Temple in Heaven. This is where our school is definitely "polytheistic" or uses multiple avenues of approach, so the appearance or form of the environment and figures in it are somewhat malleable.

The reason most such meditation works is not because a figure or symbol has an inherent existence per se--but these meditations use patterns that do not decay.

The importance is to train on something with stability and consistency.

I am able to say one particular thing, which is that we are replicating a relatively modern experience.


Delok Dawa Drolma (?-1941)





Journey to Realms Beyond Death


An excerpt from her is quoted at Yulokod Studios, Cambridge, Ontario. It is self-explanatory.

Of course, it is not Jesus or any other popular image. In my experience, I have not experienced any of those.

[Delight]

Posted by Ascension (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
If I had to guess, I've researched maybe 300 of these NDE's. And not a single one of them mentioned anything about a trap. Not one.

Yes, but how many NDE's included the notion that the individual had no say in what transpires next? How many people conveyed the thought that they did not want to come back yet were pushed back by an unknown authority figure after being love-bombed and coerced? It's amazing actually, that these people have returned with no sense of have been subtlety trapped again. In fact, they wish to spread more "guidance" to the masses by telling their stories.

Apparently there is no free will after death either, unless these individuals were simply allowing whatever they perceive to happen, following some unknown authorities' wishes. How many of them had a preconceived notion of what happens after death, pre-programmed by a life of exposure to this "guidance" we all acquire on earth? We are taught here that "no" means no, but apparently not so post-death. It means yes, I obey, begrudgingly, but I did lodge a complaint!

So much amazing response to the questions.

William Buhlman and his wife have an actual program to use to be ready for the transition out of the body at death. Just a few years ago Bill was very ill with a mouth or esophageal cancer. He went through treatment, is living now and it confronted him with a near death to help others.

Before this and for 40 years or so, he has been using OBE travel to study the realms beyond the body. His conclusion is that BELIEF is what leads us to different states of experience outside the body. He gave talks at the Monroe Institute addressing consciousness and belief. He suggests we must undo our beliefs to manage after death transition. He also recommends learning to use OBE experience as preparation.

For some reason, the whole subject of exploring this is repelling to me.

FOR ME, yes, undoing beliefs is key. It came to me in a kind of reverie vision that EVERYTHING I could possibly think is a SPIN, metaphorically a turning record ON A SPINDLE. This spindle is the center I IMAGINE where I am alone with God. I can be here with God completly without any story. I recognize I create the story of my life as is all of us HERE DO. I can observe dispassionately from the Spirit Rope I am held by in this SPINNING realm of LIES. BE LIE to make it real in this paradox.

This is not new information to hear IMO. However, when a person takes on the consistent FEELING of being with God in the center of all lies all the time (by the nature of the realm), one can just BE as if in a kind of void that IS and FULL of energy and the kind of information that is not cogitating with mental spins.

I have started imagining that every thing is being turned over to the SOURCE in my space. I don't have to figure out what is to be given. It is ALL a spin.

I choose to imagine what I want. What I WANT is a tangible world JUST LIKE THIS AS A PHYSICAL SPACE. There is no inversion. there are all the real natural laws. There are all the challenges of the human experience. There is no EVIL which is a manipulative THOUGHT FORM which has no redeeming value. I cannot imagine eating one another. We receive energy direct from SOURCE. We each are self healing. No need to seek outside HELP. We interact and we may have human emotional drama but it is not a manipulative mind field.

It's exploartion, art and a chance to be tangible. It is paradoxical that if we are attached, we must stay where we are> IMO.

I meditate in a void that is FULL. It feels so deeply without a need to explain. My daily life IMO is mostly being as authentically myself as possible. At work as a massage therapist, I do hold up that EVERYONE has the spirit rope to be with GOD themselves. I imagine the soul spark igniting because IN THE SPIRIT ROPE, we hold on to our energy. We don't spin every little mind form we observe.

To me this is good practice because I FEEL the Presence of the Supreme Source, not any middle men presenting themselves. I will always recognize this Presence.

Human life right now is beset IMO with noncorporeal entities. If you REFUSE to feed them, IMO that is excellent practice. The issue I had and seems "normal" is that for much of my life, I was as needy as these entities. IMO it is our task NOW to stop being needy. IMO belief thrives on need. How can you let go of whatever it seems is vital. Even down to being in competition FOR dear life.

I entertain that IF my imagination creates reality, I choose to imagine that the only trap is present for me in my NEED. I may be crazy but I FEEL God is here and there is nothing needed but that connection. All else is revealed IMO to us on a NEW and rather UNKNOWN state? I will use this world of BE LIE F to create this as MY SPIN> until I make it real HERE in this realm (in the smallest little bit that is my experience). Maybe this imagining is a muscle for creating IN a whole NEW way we are meant now to use?

These are such classic talks IMO.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZNmwCD1pA

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4OR6Kiwlohw

[Merlinus]

The info that wes provided is the best I've come across so far, but as you look deeper, it appears there's many layers to this game, many traps.

[chris_walker]

Posted by TrumanCash (here)
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It has been said that the Mantis/Mantids are sometimes called "the ancients". This may well be the case because they possess the "soul transference technology" which Linda Moulton Howe refers to as "reincarnation technology". Frankly, Linda, I prefer my term better, but we are talking about the same thing. I've experienced it many times so I am very familiar with it.

This begs the question: Why aren't we allowed to have access to this technology?

Anyone out there want to live forever and not have your memory wiped so you can learn from your own experiences from all your past lives? Duh!

If this technology exists, it is almost supernatural, then what about the med beds: the holographic medical beds? Both technologies sound similar. Bill Ryan says the med beds are a fantasy.

Also, if it's possible to go to hospital in spirit form and choose a pregnant mother, does that mean you will retain your previous life's memory and will you be aware whilst inside a pregnant woman? If the latter is true, that is scary to me as I'm a bit claustrophobic?

[Nimita]

This is the after life.

[Delight]

Since I embraced the POV that all is a spin, I have been having insights related to this idea. I gravitate a lot lately to those who intend to leave this realm. In so many cases we just VISCERALLY feel we will not ever come to the scene again.

It seems like it WAS hacked.

Is there a remembering we participate within and keep the Inversion in place. So MUCH seems real such as strife and ignorance. Can we see clearly and regain our minds? It seems to me that we are being guided to our hearts and imaginations and to forgive this and create something we long to experience.

We were meant to play here in matter IMO. IMO this realm as simlacrum COULD be the case. Could it be we could live HERE? Be happy and free here? WHY do we have the almost perfect symmetry of the physical. It seems clear to me it is created.

However, there is OBVIOUSLY a hack of what we innately sense is Good. The inversion made us material slaves. But it only could happen because we sere disconnected from the ground of being with an unknown name.

This world could be so beautiful in the way I want it to be. We all have our version.
What I came up with is that all I have is now and memory. I am experimenting a little with trying to remember something just the way I would like it to be reconciled. I have definite opinions on what I appreciate. I am curious if I could imagine my realm and RE member it.

I want to remember this life as being so complete that it is the finale of all lifetimes. It is MYTHIC! So, for instance, I stretch my imagination to include the memory of an experience. I make this memory complete. This is not belief. this is a memory that one can mull over.

I have resolved some blocks doing this. I have taken myself back to moments and changed whatever I like. I have avoided whole series of misfortune by recalling moments. How do I know? It is just so. In my imagination, I decide. I am joyful there will be no irreversible cataclysms devastating all the earth in conflagration. The apocalypse and the end of the astral is in my memory.

Playing is how we create.
Why do we have aspirations to create? It is about the impulse to play. IMO this was the perfect circle. You create just for its sake because it is play. You get all you energy and inspiration from the FIELD>Then you step it down.

This is my story. In my story God is penetrating every space of my whole body. Because I have free will, I can bring God to my astral body and emanate the light into the astral. In my story, I am beaming and experiencing grace and good will. All things work for the good of I am. My realm has such deep peace because we all have direct Source energy.

Now I am taking this to a new level. There is a whole cadre of us beaming the flow in the astral. It is a frequency of hyperbaric love. It feels like nothing I ever imagined before. This feels like a deep Faith. We are learning to PLAY without the mental paradigm which choked.

The God sparks are all awakened and the structure of the astral is dismantled. The terrible dream ends. The energy which has beamed onto my realm has cleared all parasitic beings. In MY realm, all true humans have only begun to explore as art-is-its. There is the right side up world to explore.

All beings are now free and happy. My whole realm which I see as the earth picture, is FILLED with the energy of the SOURCE. It is so much more hyperbaric pressurized Source filling.

We each have our own spirit rope connection to mother father god.
We are creating knowing that ineffable Godness Presence filling us. Maybe There is polarity but we are in the center.

In MY realm, we are experiencing zero interference. What is it like to have no resistance?

In my realm, I am able to surrender because I know a Presence who knows me. We know who is the Unfathomable beloved being and in me being beloved.

It is so delicious to know. We grok: I trust that God is and I exist and I have the ability to imagine wonders but the best is to imagine the place I cannot even imagine. PARADOX.

I can imagine so well what it feels to let go of expectation of how the future will unfold. Paradox. Actually all this is maybe nothing anyone else might enjoy. The biggest paradox of all is that none of us have the same experience.

From this POV, I can only imagine LIFE flourishing. What this leads us to is our destiny which is everything we have deeply loved. Here there and everywhere?

[Delight]

Today I listened to this video

Compassion For Humanity & Ending The Soul Trap

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ej5UZFHoShc

The spiritist religions of South America include ideas of astral cities which are rather like earth and have structures and activities like earth. People who do astral traveling report all kinds of structure, hierarchy, etc.

Once one accepts that these accounts may be more than singular imaginings and point to a finer BUT material construction, then one questions WHY this whole HUGE creation (?) looks like earth or we look like it. WHY SUFFERING!!!!

I did not make up the following but it makes sense and makes for questions I want the answers for......

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

As above so below?

BELOW, it is acceptable to manipulate others.
It is acceptable to use others energy.
It is acceptable to use MIGHT (force, power) 0ver right.

We are born into trauma. We are damaged by our exposure to poisonous mind/body/soul assaults. We are pitted against the rest of us traumatized beings in a world of "scarcity" where we literally BUY our debt and can never be free of it UNLESS we leave "society".

It looked like the deaths we will face would release us, I thought. I AM NOT SURE ANY LONGER WHAT IS true and how should we face these issues?

MY personal take is that I feel a relationship with a power greater than I am who HELPS me. I have had interesting experiences with knowing things but the knowings are NOT academic or wordy or educational. There is a sense of well being and protection. There is NO info to share. THERE IS energy of positive nature to extend. There is emotional healing. There is insight on a feeling level I translate.

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm. They GO somewhere and it seems an established "place" and others GO there too? The glimpses I have heard reported have some serious holes of incongruity that need clearing up for me.

For instance, why DO people (including Edgar Cayce) share there are discrete "Libraries" where beings "go" to learn things (so there is not any OMNISCIENCE). People are sometimes FORCED to return in NDEs.(Free will?). People report needing to go through further "learning" to get close to "God"(and others say you cannot from where they re situated reach God). IS not God OMNIPRESENT?

God as Omnipotent made it all but we don't get to be there as we cannot handle it?

Here on earth events indicate the "technocratic world" life is OBVIOUSLY becoming insufferable. We are placed in tracks (like educational/work) which are dependent on other tracks to function in a convoluted system that is apparently VERY entrenched in a HUGE realm where we cannot reach the "boss". Does it end?

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?

We are told to stand for ideals then I learn the lies and tricks in every corner mean we are in a circular arrangement, a wheel. There are also wheels within wheels. You do not know who/what you REALLY supporting BECAUSE we cannot suss when we cannot read others intentions.

This "knowing" that I have is all I can go on and it feels like I have a spherical beingness (and it is not a human or any form... much like a space of contained charge) which is held in an energy WAY greater than possible to imagine BUT real and present and personal. Since everything I can think is part of the spin, I can observe everything as equally unimportant in the big picture. Even what I am writing here is a spin. PARADOX rules. The point is to be observational and curious about what is interesting IMO>

My plan is when I die to already be well established in focus on staying in this space with the Unknown god. Maybe I am just deluded but every day I affirm my relationship to ORIGINAL source energy of an Unknown yet energetically tangible nature, I feel more certain and it reveals info confirming itself. That is tricky. Therefore, I have to be comfortable with allowing ambiguity. I am IN a zone of singular protection because I requested it. Everyone can choose whatever they wish. The realest thing IMO we can know is that we have an observing "I am". Maybe I am wrong every where else.

What appears IN DAILY life is positive. Since I actually FEEL connected, I am not looking for help. IMO the spin being promulgated by demiurge energies, who may own EVERYTHING MATERIAL (nonphysical included) will NOT do me in.

This is all mysterious. I am still wondering why I feel this sense of Presence that communicates as if it is in my physical "universe" through feelings of energy and that life is easier and richer without any particular effort. This seems great though isolated. I want others to have this ease and to escape any "traps".

[HopSan]

Posted by Delight (here)

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

...

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm.

...

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?

Thanks, verrry interesting... I'll cut in some previous points:

Mike:
> the majority of NDE'ers do not want to come back to earth. Many report begging to stay in the afterlife and even throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way ..like children.

As my wife was nearing her death, during the last days (at home, safe), she was weak, but also like meditating, dreaming, moving to next thing. She was only partly conscious, but told very clearly in hospital, that she did not want to live some useless days more suffering.

Same thing happened (I was told) with my mother. She slept more and more, no suffering, but like distancing from this life.

As if both had seen something more inviting than this...

Mike:
> being forced back to earth

A strange thing: I had quite separate discussions with two (now gone) friends. We all laughingly, but very seriously thought that there has been a mistake in 'cosmic postal office'-- our 'real' location was meant to be elsewhere. And we all swore to never return this place (earth) again.

And Delight:

> School, prison, farm, ... ??

My hunch, now:

A place where we are 'tried'. Our inner quality gets 'tested', and SHOWN, in the middle of utmost sickness, evil, crazyness.

[TrumanCash]

Posted by Delight (here)
Today I listened to this video

Compassion For Humanity & Ending The Soul Trap

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ej5UZFHoShc

The spiritist religions of South America include ideas of astral cities which are rather like earth and have structures and activities like earth. People who do astral traveling report all kinds of structure, hierarchy, etc.

Once one accepts that these accounts may be more than singular imaginings and point to a finer BUT material construction, then one questions WHY this whole HUGE creation (?) looks like earth or we look like it. WHY SUFFERING!!!!

I did not make up the following but it makes sense and makes for questions I want the answers for......

Earth as a school makes little sense if you cannot recall what you already learned. So, WHY do we forget?

Earth as a prison makes no sense at all if you are being punished for events you cannot recall.

Earth as a farm makes sense.

As above so below?

BELOW, it is acceptable to manipulate others.
It is acceptable to use others energy.
It is acceptable to use MIGHT (force, power) 0ver right.

We are born into trauma. We are damaged by our exposure to poisonous mind/body/soul assaults. We are pitted against the rest of us traumatized beings in a world of "scarcity" where we literally BUY our debt and can never be free of it UNLESS we leave "society".

It looked like the deaths we will face would release us, I thought. I AM NOT SURE ANY LONGER WHAT IS true and how should we face these issues?

MY personal take is that I feel a relationship with a power greater than I am who HELPS me. I have had interesting experiences with knowing things but the knowings are NOT academic or wordy or educational. There is a sense of well being and protection. There is NO info to share. THERE IS energy of positive nature to extend. There is emotional healing. There is insight on a feeling level I translate.

Others have much mental/spirit INFORMATION from some "other" realm. They GO somewhere and it seems an established "place" and others GO there too? The glimpses I have heard reported have some serious holes of incongruity that need clearing up for me.

For instance, why DO people (including Edgar Cayce) share there are discrete "Libraries" where beings "go" to learn things (so there is not any OMNISCIENCE). People are sometimes FORCED to return in NDEs.(Free will?). People report needing to go through further "learning" to get close to "God"(and others say you cannot from where they re situated reach God). IS not God OMNIPRESENT?

God as Omnipotent made it all but we don't get to be there as we cannot handle it?

Here on earth events indicate the "technocratic world" life is OBVIOUSLY becoming insufferable. We are placed in tracks (like educational/work) which are dependent on other tracks to function in a convoluted system that is apparently VERY entrenched in a HUGE realm where we cannot reach the "boss". Does it end?

AS above so below is feeling oppressively like we are in a farmed, controlled, imprisoning trap that will not end until we can stand up and spit it out. That takes some major stand alone ability. Can we?

We are told to stand for ideals then I learn the lies and tricks in every corner mean we are in a circular arrangement, a wheel. There are also wheels within wheels. You do not know who/what you REALLY supporting BECAUSE we cannot suss when we cannot read others intentions.

This "knowing" that I have is all I can go on and it feels like I have a spherical beingness (and it is not a human or any form... much like a space of contained charge) which is held in an energy WAY greater than possible to imagine BUT real and present and personal. Since everything I can think is part of the spin, I can observe everything as equally unimportant in the big picture. Even what I am writing here is a spin. PARADOX rules. The point is to be observational and curious about what is interesting IMO>

My plan is when I die to already be well established in focus on staying in this space with the Unknown god. Maybe I am just deluded but every day I affirm my relationship to ORIGINAL source energy of an Unknown yet energetically tangible nature, I feel more certain and it reveals info confirming itself. That is tricky. Therefore, I have to be comfortable with allowing ambiguity. I am IN a zone of singular protection because I requested it. Everyone can choose whatever they wish. The realest thing IMO we can know is that we have an observing "I am". Maybe I am wrong every where else.

What appears IN DAILY life is positive. Since I actually FEEL connected, I am not looking for help. IMO the spin being promulgated by demiurge energies, who may own EVERYTHING MATERIAL (nonphysical included) will NOT do me in.

This is all mysterious. I am still wondering why I feel this sense of Presence that communicates as if it is in my physical "universe" through feelings of energy and that life is easier and richer without any particular effort. This seems great though isolated. I want others to have this ease and to escape any "traps".

Thanks for posting this video and your comments, Delight. Tony Sayers really gets it! I can really relate to what he says in this video given my own experiences between lives with the Mantis (aka, Insectoids, Mantids, etc).

In the video Tony refers to these afterlife or NDE places as "processing centers" and that is exactly right from my own experiences.

Interestingly, Simon Parkes also referred to these places as "processing" centers when he was posting here on Avalon years ago. I wondered at that time how he knew about them so I initiated a bit of conversation with him about them as I knew them well.

However, Simon was talking about the "Mantids" as being good ETs and he indicated that he wanted to be one. I do not agree with him on many points. I can only comment on my own experiences and do not know if Simon's experiences are entirely true. Many people have different views about Simon Parkes and I do not wish to take sides in those arguments simply because they are not my experiences. I do not accept Simon's viewpoints on Gesara/Nesara, however, as that is a totally unworkable solution if it does in fact exist.

What I discovered is that the abducting Mantis, Anunnaki, Grays and Reptilians all work together to keep mankind in spiritual darkness and in a perpetual state of war on Earth and between countries. They do not respect free will and they program us with lies and deceptions.

In my books I referred to them as Extra-Terrestrial Conspirators, or ETCs. They follow their abductees (which they refer to as "chosen ones") from lifetime to lifetime and sometimes place us in positions of authority in governments, military, secret societies and religions. They operate in secrecy, call themselves "gods" to be worshipped and obeyed (or else) and use us to implement their nefarious agendas.

The Mantis work directly with the Anunnaki "gods" and in fact in Egypt I found that they even use the same type of ships as the Anunnaki, specifically Ra's model of ship.

I cover my between-lives experiences with the Mantis in my second book, THE EYE OF RA, in the chapter "In-Between Lives Implants & Out of Body Abductions" (p. 98 of the PDF, link below).

What I found is that the Mantis in particular run the artificial reincarnation system for Earth from their motherships. The light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel technology is just that. It is how they hoover us up into their motherships in NDEs and upon body death. The tunnel literally connects with the Mantis motherships. I sometimes refer to these motherships as "soul suckers".

They appear to be glowing beings but that is only due to their ability to project illusions into our consciousness while in a hypnotic state on their ships (even though we are out of body). They have technological and psychic abilities that appear to us magic. But it's not magic.

Since we are in a hypnotic state they can psychically implant all kinds of narratives, visions, seeing your dead relatives, you name it, in our consciousness so it is understandable that people who experience NDEs will return with different narratives and they can taylor-make the programming to each individual. In the aforementioned chapter you can read about some of the deceptive programming I was given while I was onboard these "processing centers" between lives.

The depiction below from the movie "Cocoon" is a fairly close approximation of what Mantis look like to abductees on board their motherships while in a state of hypnosis. The drawing below that is an approximation of what they really look like without the psychic hypnotic projection.

[Mike]

I think this video works here in this thread (although admittedly I have not listened to it, but I will). I am pretty familiar with David Icke's take on 3d earth reality as a nefarious simulation (and also the immediate afterlife as a nefarious simulation/trap), and the title suggests this is what we'll hear from Icke in this interview.

This runs contrary to my personal belief, but David is always a great listen and I anticipate some members will enjoy it.

"Is The Simulation Run By Otherwordly Rulers In The Astral Realm?" About 45 mins long:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hTgk16oG7fg

[Delight]

This was an interesting conversation about this place we are seeming to be in and how to conduct oneself. We are an extension of the Creator and have a real soul in a fake world.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wAMk21ksjdA

[Delight]

This video is a well rounded overview of indications we are in a perpetual recycling here.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Delight (here)
This video is a well rounded overview of indications we are in a perpetual recycling here.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-wyk7V2Cby4

TRANSCRIPT: TOP TEN RED FLAGS WE MAY BE IN A PRISON/LOOSH FARM SYSTEM
by Wayne Bush and Julie McVey
January 30, 2024

Creators & Hosts of Sovereign Spirits:
Wayne Bush is a researcher, writer and creator of TrickedByTheLight.com website.
Julie McVey is an author, out-of-body experiencer and creator of the UnOrdinary Made Ordinary show.

In this episode, we will be sharing the article we wrote a few months ago, Top Ten Red Flags We Are in a Prison/Loosh Farm System. We will be reading from the article as we share this information with you so we don't miss any vital information. We do not pretend to know everything. It is not our intention to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that this is absolutely the case, but this should provide ample evidence to persuade one that this is a viable theory worth serious consideration.

If the theory is true, then we should move forward with solutions and ways to exit the deceptive system in which we find ourselves. However, this is not really a prison in the conventional sense. If we have to be manipulated to be here, then we are in a so-called "prison" cell without doors and it is only temporary. We don't have to keep falling for the tricks the wardens use to convince us to return here. As long as one continues to give one's power away, then one will remain in a "prison" one chooses to be in.

1:24 Red Flag #1 Memory Wipe and Ignorance

3:09 Red Flag #2 Programming and Conditioning

4:35 Red Flag #3 Extremity of Suffering and Duration of Reincarnation Cycle

9:12 Red Flag #4 Kill & Consume Energy to Survive (The Food Chain)

18:49 Red Flag #5 Secrecy, Lies & Deception, Manipulation & Control at Top

22:19 Red Flag #6 Prison/Limitations of Spirit

27:03 Red Flag #7 Sleep and Entropy

29:34 Red Flag #8 Lack of Disclosure, Transparency and Consistency in Major Religions & Sacred Texts

32:07 Red Flag #9 Paranormal Accounts and Experiences

37:21 Red Flag #10 Virtual Realities, AI, Simulations

39:32 Afterlife Affirmation (as of March 2024)


Edit to update: We have a new affirmation as of June 12, 2024 and we continue to refine it as we learn more.

[Delight]

I do know this is not a REAL place here and is an evil construct.

This is generally a very interesting conversation. Jason Breshears lays out in his immense amount of content that this is a simulacrum in which immortals are embedded. The immortal sparks he calls seekers, errants who are out of resonance with a collective SCRIPT created by a force and its human AGENTS.

There is some awesome info for those wanting to exit the matrix. Starting about 1:07:22 mathematic coincidences are too great to be natural. Events repeat in perfectly structured construction. In a simulation/simulacrum, everything in the timeline is scripted EXCEPT US. We immortals must recognize our state and ignore the collective programming.

At death, People who are in the construct and who do not recognize who they are IMMEDIATELY recycle back. HOWEVER apparently, the end of the construct is at hand. When it ends, we who are immortals will be released from the simulation. I am quite appreciative of knowing I am an errant and what my role is in creating MY experience. Our main focus should be LIVING and expressing our knowing of what is right, true, loving we recognize in front of us, do what one chooses in response KNOWING we choose and there is a Universal feedback. What is adding to our immortal INFORMED FIELD is the key for exit.


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v15ar8t/?pub=mpxgj

[Michi]

Recently in my search for navigating the out-of-body realms I came across a lady I hadn’t heard before and after watching a few of her interviews on youtube I decided to read her short ebook on Amazon.

Her name is Isabella Greene

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gM0duW5OANc

She covers from her own research and experiences quite similarly what Wayne Bush, Cameron Day, David Icke and Wes Penre found out about the after-life and earth being a trap.

What however stands out on her research is that astral travel is the wrong approach in order to "prepare" one's journey after discarding his body.

The astral realm according to Isabella is the exact zone, where the trap is located and it is rather difficult to exit out of that area (although - not impossible).

She offers a complete different approach for leaving the body and explore other worlds and realms through a Kundalini activation technique called "cosmic breath".

This technique is not at all a soft, smooth exiting the body but a rather violent shooting out of the head.

Meanwhile she offers also a workshop on her website which I find quite less expensive compared with the AYDA Method course (astral travel) by Darius J. Wright.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GreQSaCgLIc