WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[shaberon]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by shaberon (here)
As a generic name for the attitude, one could start from a massive new volume on this subject from the U. S. Naval Institute:

Would the following book, published February 15, 2024, by Bernard D Cole USN (Ret.), with a length of 320 pages, be the "new volume" to which you refer:

• China's Quest for Great Power: Ships, Oil, and Foreign Policy

Attachment 53767

No! But it is pretty close:

Researching the History of the U.S. Navy in Asia
Adventures in Facts, Fiction, and Sea Stories
By Captain Bernard D. Cole, U.S. Navy (Retired), PhD
August 2022


Sounds like a matched set, a two-fisted effort, a career in retirement.

Before we let him get away with this, you better start with Smedley Butler:


Camp MacMurray. The Airfiled at Hsin Ho. Note the Standard Oil Company tank farm behind the planes. Several of these tanks caught fire on 24 December 1927 and General Butler personally stepped in to direct Marines fire fighting efforts.



Is the subliminal message working yet?

Anyway, he really did that stuff, and then you get War Is a Racket from him. It's close to a hundred years old! And here we still go.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Alexander Mercouris

US Backs Off Missile Strikes;
Tense US/UK Talks;
Rus Storms Ukr Kursk Enclave;
BBC Pokrovsk Critical

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E6a5QRMjHGk

@Ravenlocke - Thanks for the update - which is apparently reassuring; but we are dealing with people who are always untruthful - whether factually lying, or by misleading through omission and false emphasis.

What I take-away from this is that NATO missile strikes have Not been rejected - the option is still open, in some way currently unclear; but there is some attempt at the US administration denying official responsibility.

As things stand, with no sign of change in the intention behind strategy, and no change in the leadership class evident; it seems most likely that Western-administered missile strikes inside Russia will happen.

[Vicus]

Russian Electronic Warfare Makes GPS Useless for Ukraine's Guided Missiles 4 hours ago



MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Electronic warfare (EW) used by the Russian army has made Ukraine's attempts to use the GPS system to guide missiles useless, the Times reported on Sunday, citing a British military source.

"You could absolutely fire it unilaterally, but it probably wouldn’t survive in the contested, electronically jammed environment that the Russians have," the source told the newspaper. "Russian electronic warfare has rendered GPS useless. They jam it. So it has to use another type of data set instead, which is American owned."

Russia believes that arms supplies to Ukraine hinder the settlement, directly involve NATO countries in the conflict and are "playing with fire."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov noted that any cargo containing weapons for Ukraine would be a legitimate target for Russia. According to Lavrov, the US and NATO are directly involved in the conflict, including not only by supplying weapons, but also by training personnel in the UK, Germany, Italy, and other countries.
The Kremlin stated that pumping weapons into Ukraine by the West did not contribute to negotiations and would have a negative effect.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240915/ru...120158739.html

[Vicus]

Ukraine Loses Up to 765 Soldiers in Battles With Russia's Battlegroup Yug - Russian Ministry 10 minutes ago



MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Ukraine has lost up to 765 soldiers in battles with Russia's Battlegroup Yug, while the latter has repelled three counterattacks in the past 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Sunday.

Russia's Zapad Battlegroup has also repelled three Ukrainian counterattacks while Kiev has lost up to 570 soldiers in battles with the Russian military over the past 24 hours, the ministry added.
Russian forces have defeated the Ukrainian troops in the Kharkov (also known as Kharkiv) Region, the ministry said, adding that Ukraine has lost up to 150 servicemen there, five combat armored vehicles, four cars, a French-made 155-mm Caesar howitzer, a US-made 155-mm M114 howitzer, among the others.

Meanwhile, Russia's Tsentr Battlegroup has repelled 10 Ukrainian counterattacks over the past 24 hours while Kiev lost up to 545 soldiers, the ministry said.
Over the past 24 hours, the Russian Aerospace Forces have shut down two Su-27 fighters of the Ukrainian air forces, while air defense systems shot down a MiG-29 fighter of the Ukrainian air forces, the ministry said.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240915/uk...120159746.html

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=FNO0ulBSkmA

Harvest Time🔥 Vuhledar Is Done🎖 Ukrainsk Cauldron🎖 Lyubimovka Collapsed🎖 Military Summary 2024.09.14

[Tintin]

Posted by Satori (here)

Very good find. A good dose of truth. Thanks for posting.

Yes, but not necessarily new, but a helpful reminder of what we're dealing with. I'd saved Udo's interview - a large part of it - a year or so back in the library. The interview is from 2014.

Cross posting this from the Memes thread, from yesterday:

His 2014 interview, here:

[Tintin]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Text:

Remember, guys, one of the Nazis on the list of 900 Canada wants to keep secret is Michael Chomiak ; grandfather of Deputy Prime Minister
@cafreeland
. Michael Chomiak ran a Nazi newspaper in the Ukrainian language in Nazi occupied Krakow , Poland, which was an epicenter of Banderism .

https://x.com/ShoahUkraine/status/1832979169795543541

This is a good one

Worth bringing the text to the front on this, from the thread:

🚨 Did you know that Michael Chomiak, Canada's deputy prime minister and
@cafreeland
's grandfather, was hunted by Polish intelligence for decades? I'll tell you how he escaped to Canada and avoided facing any consequences. 🚨

Michael Chomiak managed to flee from the Soviet army by escaping from Vienna to Bavaria in 1945, where he was briefly interned by the American forces. He then moved to Salzburg.

In 1948, he escaped to Canada with the help of the Roman Catholic Church, and to conceal his identity, he changed his name from Mykhailo Khomiak to Michael Chomiak and settled in Alberta.

Polish intelligence services actively hunted for Chomiak until the 1980s, unaware that he had found safety on an Alberta farm in Canada. They had access to German military records that revealed Chomiak's voluntary service in the German invasion of Poland long before the German Army attacked the Soviet Union and invaded Ukraine.

They also possessed photographs of Chomiak with Nazi officials in Cracow and Vienna, where he operated the German press machine for the Galician region of Ukraine and Poland during the four-year occupation.

Polish intelligence sources believed that Chomiak was trained by the Germans as a double agent, infiltrating Ukrainian groups and spying on them. They also suspected his involvement in propaganda operations that glorified the German Army's successes and advocated the destruction of Jews, Poles, and Russians.

Polish intelligence attempted to locate Chomiak through various channels, including contacting his relatives in Poland and Ukraine, tracing his bank accounts and assets, and monitoring his publications and contacts in Europe. However, they were unable to find him or confirm his whereabouts until after his death in 1984.

The first document (left), dated April 23, 1966, confirms Chomiak as a person of interest. It recovers part of his German war record for Polish review.

The second document, originally dated May 12, 1966, led to a case of mistaken identity. Another Michael Chomiak was found, born a day before the target, a peasant, not a professional editor-in-chief. It also bears official date stamps: February 11, 1980, and a notation on the left dated March 3, 1980.

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A related article from our Avalon archives, here:

Chrystia Freeland’s granddad was indeed a Nazi collaborator – so much for Russian disinformation
Author: David Pugliese
Source: Ottawa Citizen newspaper
Published: March 8th, 2017

Link: https://avalonlibrary.net/Ukraine/Ar...Citizen%29.pdf

[Tintin]

Recap:From 2016, Joe Biden talking at the Council on Foreign Relations. A clip for our historical archive here:



Biden and Poroshenko in conversation in 2016 - recommended the sound is turned up here. They are discussing the removal of prosecutor Viktor Shokin who was investigating fraud concerning Burisma and Hunter Biden. He of course was subsequently removed.



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From the Obama White House archives:
Publication: May 13, 2016
Source: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...shenko-ukraine

Readout of Vice President Biden’s Call with President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine

The Vice President spoke today with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. The Vice President welcomed the appointment of a new Prosecutor General as an important first step to bringing much-needed reform to the Office of the Prosecutor General. The Vice President also commended legislative changes that will set up an independent Office of the Inspector General in the Office of the Prosecutor General and allow prosecutions to begin against Yanukovych-era officials. The Vice President informed President Poroshenko that the United States was prepared to move forward with the signing of the third $1 billion loan guarantee agreement, which will support continued progress on Ukrainian reforms‎. The leaders also condemned the continued aggression by combined Russian/separatist forces against Ukraine, and agreed on the critical importance of accelerating progress on Minsk implementation by all sides.

[Tintin]

Scott Ritter via X, earlier today:

My friend and colleague, Larry Johnson, found himself in the crosshairs of the US-government funded Voice of America (VOA) (@VOANews), a Congressionally mandated propaganda arm of the US government.

VOA published an article written by Leonid Martynyuk (@MartynyukLeonid), a protege and benefactor of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the one-time Russian oligarch turned British intelligence asset.

Martynyuk is a harsh critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

This is his right.

But there is no possible justification for the US government, using US taxpayer money, to allow Martynyuk access to a US government-controlled media outlet to attack an American citizen for exercising his First Amendment right of free speech.

Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice (@CivilRights) needs to investigate VOA and the United States Agency for Global Media (@USAGMgov) for violation of 18 US Code Section 241, which makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

This is a felony under the law.

There can be no doubt that Martynyuk, VOA, and the US Agency for Global Media, in singling out Larry Johnson, are seeking to threaten and intimidate Larry Johnson and, by extension, any American citizen who dares speak out against US policy on Russian media outlets.

Failure to do so will serve as de facto evidence of the politicization of the US Department of Justice, and be proof positive that the greatest enemy of the Constitution today in America comes in the form of those domestic entities sworn to uphold and defend it.
1:28 PM · Sep 15, 2024

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1835360966755664233

[Ravenlocke]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Alexander Mercouris

US Backs Off Missile Strikes;
Tense US/UK Talks;
Rus Storms Ukr Kursk Enclave;
BBC Pokrovsk Critical

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E6a5QRMjHGk

@Ravenlocke - Thanks for the update - which is apparently reassuring; but we are dealing with people who are always untruthful - whether factually lying, or by misleading through omission and false emphasis.

What I take-away from this is that NATO missile strikes have Not been rejected - the option is still open, in some way currently unclear; but there is some attempt at the US administration denying official responsibility.

As things stand, with no sign of change in the intention behind strategy, and no change in the leadership class evident; it seems most likely that Western-administered missile strikes inside Russia will happen.

You are welcome Bruce, as well as I agree with your comments.

Also, if you follow the Gaza thread, the US also denied responsibility for Netanyahu’s actions when they said he didn’t run it by them first. I also think the growing popularity of BRICS, multipolarity, and the move away from the petrodollar are also factors that influence this war against Russia.

[Ravenlocke]

🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺The enemy continues to try to break through the border from a new direction in the Kursk region

▪️Heavy fighting in this area continues, as can be seen from the Ministry of Defense report, the enemy is throwing considerable forces into the offensive.
▪️Our troops, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, repelled 6 enemy attempts to break through the Russian border in the direction of the settlements of Novy Put, Medvezhye and Vesyoloye in the Glushkovsky district, the Ministry of Defense reports.
▪️The enemy lost up to 60 people killed and wounded, 3 tanks, an armored personnel carrier and 5 combat armored vehicles.
http://t.me/RVvoenkor

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1835275020358054179

[Ravenlocke]

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Peskov: Putin is always careful in choosing a response to the West's actions

Russian President Vladimir Putin is always extremely careful in his responses to the West's actions, although Russian experts are discussing tough options, among other things. This was stated by the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov to VGTRK journalist Pavel Zarubin.

"We have enough specialists - very, very authoritative experts - who are very actively discussing this topic. I think that this is enough for now," the Kremlin spokesman responded to the question of whether it is time to start discussing at the official level a possible response to Western aggression, including the provision of long-range missiles to Ukraine.

As an example, the head of state’s press secretary cited a recent interview with international expert Sergei Karaganov, “who continued his famous line” on a preemptive nuclear strike to intimidate Russia’s potential adversaries.

“We have enough of this kind of talk, but the president is always extremely careful with this,” Peskov emphasized.

The possibility of providing Ukraine with long-range Western missiles that would be able to reach targets deep inside Russian territory is being increasingly discussed in the Western press and at the official level. Russian President Vladimir Putin has emphasized that since Ukrainian forces themselves are not capable of controlling such high-precision systems, the use of these missiles would mean a direct clash between Russia and NATO countries .

Karaganov, known for his proposal to bring the escalation to a pre-nuclear stage in order to sober up the elites in the West, noted in a conversation with a TASS correspondent in Beijing on Thursday that strikes deep into Russia could provoke retaliatory attacks on the territory of European NATO countries. In his assessment, there are “a number of more steps up the escalation ladder” and “things could even reach nuclear strikes.”

https://x.com/jaccocharite/status/1835343687150109038

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/bambkb/status/1834969652000133329

[AutumnW]

Maybe someone who understands Ukraine better than I do could explain to me how being part of Russia's sphere of influence, was hard on the Ukrainian people? I can't seem to get answers anywhere.

If Canada hosted operatives from Russia who tried to drive a wedge between Canada and the US, covertly, and then, with the help of Russian arms, insisted on our sovereignty from the US, can you imagine what a smoking husk we'd look like?

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/KitKlarenberg/status/1835266997094891832

[Ravenlocke]

Ukraine may be open to ‘freezing' the conflict with local ceasefires, media claims

Volodymyr Zelensky intends to meet with the current US President Joe Biden and with both the Republican and the Democratic presidential candidates – Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, respectively – during his upcoming voyage to the US to present them with a strategy that could supposedly allow Ukraine to defeat Russia.

The strategy reportedly includes “both the demand to be allowed to use Western long-range weapons deep in Russia and the willingness of Ukraine to accept local ceasefires on certain sections of the front - and thus a temporary freeze of the situation,” reported Bild, quoting unnamed sources.

The Ukrainian government, however, has refuted these claims and insists that Kiev is against any freezing of the conflict.

Neither the report nor Zelensky clarified why Russia might be interested in a ceasefire while Ukrainian militants routinely attack civilian targets and even threaten to strike nuclear facilities.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has previously noted that Russia is well aware of who it is dealing with in the Ukrainian conflict when asked last week about the prospects of peace talks: people who have no respect for the interests of other people and countries.

“They easily break all the obligations they take, even signed documents,” Putin added.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1835315661834178990

[Ravenlocke]

Posting this thread here unless it belongs elsewhere in which case mods please remove, thank you.

Text:
How Rothschild banking clan uses its vast wealth to influence world events and control governments (Part 1)

Media-shy banking firm Rothschild & Co popped up in the news recently when it was revealed that it played a key role in restructuring over $20 bln in Ukrainian debt, including by arranging meetings between Kiev officials and vulture funds like Black Rock and Amundi. The Rothschilds are known to carve up Ukraine’s wealth since at least 2014 and the Euromaidan coup.

What is the Rothschild banking clan known for?

🌏Emerging in the heyday of European colonial empires, the Rothschilds cashed in on the vast wealth flowing to the continent to create merchant and private banking, asset management, venture capital, insurance, media, and energy enterprises.

🌏Establishing close ties to the British Crown, Mayer Rothschild and his sons financed colonial megaprojects, from the Suez Canal trade artery to the East India Company.

🌏The family proved highly active in the international politics of the 19th and 20th centuries, betting on Britain against France during the Napoleonic Wars by financing Hessian mercenary soldiers and loaning money to the Crown, and using insider knowledge of government deliberations.

How rich are the Rothschilds?

🔶A big question mark revolves around their net worth, with open data varying from $1 billion to $1.2 trillion – which would put the family well above the oft-published pop financial media lists of the “world’s richest.”

🔶Lack of precise figure stems from the family’s incredible secrecy, and the murky nature of finance capital. The Rothschilds ‘went dark’ in the early 20th century, when the introduction of national taxation schemes across Europe led family banks to formally split to create ‘independent’ financial institutions.

🔶For instance, while reporting on the family’s public-facing business empire is often focused on the Paris, London and Singapore-based Rothschild & Co, other divisions, like the Geneva-based Edmond de Rothschild Group are less often mentioned.


How Rothschild banking clan uses its vast wealth to influence world events and control governments (Part 2)

How powerful are the Rothschilds?

🔺The Rothschilds also have ownership stakes and investments ranging from 5%-50%+ in an array of European, US and Asian mega corporations, from Glencore Mining and TotalEnergies to Siemens, Exxon, Chevron, Repsol, Shell, Mitsubishi, Itochu Corp and the Rio Tinto Mining Corporation.

🔺In his book ‘Big Oil & Their Bankers’, researcher Dean Henderson discovered that the Rothschilds and a clique of seven other banking families enjoy a controlling stake in the New York Federal Reserve Bank – the most powerful Fed bank and the heart of America’s financial system.

🔺Other investigators believe the Rothschilds either control the city of London and the Bank of England, or own it outright, although this has been disputed.

Do Rothschilds control politicians?

🔶Rothschilds' influence over world politicians has become impossible to conceal, with the family’s prominent members rubbing shoulders with the likes of Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Henry Kissinger, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterrand, Petro Poroshenko, Emmanuel Macron, and others.

🔶The clan either takes advantage of business connections and sheer economic and market power, or in Macron’s case – hiring him as an investment banker before he began his political career.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1835307498514874475

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Sputnik_India/status/1835305487178346966

[Ravenlocke]

Text:

‘Beacon of hope’: US journalist lauds Russia’s traditional values

"Russia is the largest country still embracing traditional values," independent US journalist Tofurious Maximus Crane said in an interview with Sputnik.

"And in the US and Europe – they've rejected traditional values. And look at their economies right now, look at their people. Look at the amount of homeless people on the streets, look at the amount of drug addicts, etc. They're rejecting moral values right now in the West. And now we see a massive decline in Western societies," he added.

Russia’s traditional values are “basically a beacon of hope, a lifeboat” for those in the US or Europe who still have these values, the journalist underscored.

Crane plans to stay in Russia and obtain Russian citizenship. He also informs other foreigners how to move to the country.

"I actually receive 600 to 1,000 messages a day on TikTok, YouTube, and on the Russian migration website from people asking how they can move here," he said.

President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on August 19 providing foreigners who share Russia's spiritual and moral values, and who seek to escape the West's destructive neo-liberal ideals, with a temporary residence permit in the country.

"For me, the decree is the best thing that ever happened in my life, besides, you know, family and children," he noted.

Many Americans don’t realize how big, beautiful, and diverse Russia is, Crane says, adding that his next mission will be to travel around the country and show the rest of the world what it’s like.

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1835292092584559045