WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

[Tintin]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Jaak (here)

• Toropets is about 500 km / 310 miles (in a straight line) away from the northern Ukrainian border to the north in Russia!

Imagine if Mexico uses super advanced Chinese drones to attack Las Vegas or Houston ... a similar ±500km/310 Miles range from the border of Mexico/USA ... How would USA react if that was the case?


cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

I rather suspect that some of these drone attacks are not originating from Ukrainian territory. The culprits may well be from Baltic states, or, heaven forbid, Scandinavia. For obvious reasons this will not be publicly admitted to. We'll see if anything comes to light around that (a little bit more than) speculation.

In other news, via Simplicius on X, here's Lukashenko:

ATTACK ON BELARUS WOULD MEAN WW3 - BELARUSIAN PREZ Lukashenko who states #Kiev regime have go-ahead from #Washington to ATTACK Southern Belarus since Russian drones flying close to Belarusian border.

Any strike would have DISASTROUS consequences for entire world warns Lukashenko:

"I simply want to warn our opponents, our rivals and those who do not understand yet, do not do this. This will not only be bad for the European region, but also for the entire planet. Remember this: an attack on #Belarus would be a 3rd World War" - Belarusian leader (00:45).

IntelRepublic

[ExomatrixTV]

Mind you, this video-report was uploaded 2 days ago, before the attack in Toropets.

• Russian Nuclear Submarines Have Surrounded the UK and Are Waiting For The Order To ATTACK:

Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v5ctw97/?pub=ir01b

[Vicus]

Europa values...NONE!

Switzerland Dumps Neutrality as Senate Rejects Ban on Joining NATO Drills 2 hours ago

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Swiss Council of States, the upper house of the parliament, said on Wednesday that it had voted against a ban on the participation of its military in joint NATO drills.

"The participation of Switzerland in joint defense exercises with NATO must not be banned. The Council of States rejected a motion from the National Council to this effect on Wednesday by 29 votes to 12 and after a lively debate," the upper house said in a statement.
Swiss senators believe that in case of an attack on the country, its neutral status will disappear, so Switzerland's army needs to be ready to defend itself.

Switzerland is neither an EU or a NATO member, but Bern has joined almost all European sanctions against Russia since February 24, 2022. In 2024, the Swiss military will take part in 20 exercises outside its territory and four drills on its territory, all of them with the participation of NATO countries.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240918/sw...120191488.html

[Vicus]

Russian National Guard Destroys Ukraine's Starlink Station in Chernigov Region Strike 4 hours ago

"The Russian Guards destroyed the Starlink satellite communication station used by the armed forces of Ukraine militants in the Chernigov region," the statement read.

UAV operators carried out a targeted strike using a drone with incendiary ammunition, the National Guard said, adding that as a result of a direct hit, the stronghold of the Ukrainian nationalists caught fire, and then further complete burning out of the enemy's territory and the Starlink satellite communication station.



https://sputnikglobe.com/20240524/ru...118614899.html

[Vicus]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2iippq4-kpU

[Bruce G Charlton]

The initial report of the Toropets attack above was IMO deliberately misleading:

1. By tendentiously framing it as WW3 alert (this kind of framing - especially by headlines, is SOP for the worst kind of mass media).

2. By gratuitously asserting it was a "NATO" attack - hence an escalation and crossing of the red line.

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇷🇺🇺🇦 About the attack of Ukrainian UAVs on military warehouses in Toropets

At night, Ukrainian formations launched a massive UAV strike on various targets in Russia. Air defense was active in the Bryansk, Kursk, Oryol and Smolensk regions. One of the targets was an arsenal in the city of Toropets in the Tver region.

Despite official statements about the fire being caused by "falling debris", this is obviously not the case. A partial evacuation has been declared in the district, with the population being evacuated to the Western Dvina.

The explosions at the warehouses were so powerful that they were recorded by earthquake monitoring systems. The first tremors, measuring 2.8 on the Richter scale, were recorded at 3:56 a.m., and the next seven were weaker, ranging from 2 to 2.8 on the Richter scale.

It is curious that the warehouse hit by the enemy was opened at the time by the then Deputy Minister of Defense of Russia Bulgakov, who is now under investigation. According to the official's assurances, voiced in 2018, the implementation of the complex will build a system for storing missiles, ammunition and explosives that "meets the highest world standards." And the arsenal "allows you to hide stocks of missiles and ammunition from external influences and ensure their safety and explosion and fire safety," and on the territory, if you believe the report, there was even a sauna.

Perhaps, if everything that happened was caused by “falling debris,” the investigation has more work to do.

rybar
https://x.com/dana916/status/1836343647362552295

https://x.com/dana916/status/1836353306328965497

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Chronicle of a special military operation
for September 18, 2024

Ukrainian troops attacked an ammunition depot in the village of Toropets in the Tver region during a nighttime drone raid; the aftermath is still being dealt with at the scene.

In the Kursk region, Russian troops are expanding their zone of control in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts; the Ukrainian Armed Forces are not trying to gain a foothold on the outskirts of the Glushkovsky district.

In the Kupyansk direction, Russian troops are advancing west of Peschanoye, expanding the bridgehead in the northern and western directions towards the Oskol River.

In the Pokrovsk direction, fighting continues in the Grodovka area and in the fields north of the village. Russian troops control about 80% of the settlement.

In the South Donetsk direction, the Russian Armed Forces have expanded the control zone in the Vodyanoye area; active clashes are underway in the area of ​​the Yuzhnodonbasskaya mine No. 1.

rybar

https://x.com/dana916/status/1836524410687361449

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
🇷🇺Russian Ministry of Defense Top News Today

▫️Ahead of Gunsmith Day, the President chaired a meeting on the development of the Russian Armed Forces in the conditions of the special military operation.

▫️The Yug Group of Forces seized more favorable lines and engaged the 23rd, 24th, 28th,and 54th mechanized brigades, 30th Motorized Infantry Brigade, 72nd Airmobile Brigade of the AFU, 109th Territorial Defense Brigade, and 21st National Guard Brigade near Kalinina, Chasov Yar, Minkovka, Grigorovka, Seversk, Dyleyevka, Predtechino, and Yelizavetovka (Donetsk People's Republic). Two counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 56th Motorized Infantry Brigade were repelled. The enemy lost up to 640 troops.

▫️The Zapad Group of Forces improved tactical situation, engaged manpower, and military hardware of 14th, 30th, 44th, and 53rd mechanized brigades of the AFU, 1st National Guard Brigade near Petropavlovka, Glushkovka (Kharkov region), Zhovtnevoye (Lugansk People's Republic), and Serebryansky Forestry. Four counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 63rd and 67th mechanized brigades were repelled. The AFU losses amounted to up to 610 troops.

▫️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue repelling the AFU attempt to invade the Russian territory in Kursk region. With support of army aviation and artillery, the Group's units repelled four attempts of the AFU to break through the border of the Russian Federation towards Vesyoloye and Medvezhye. The Russian Armed Forces posted Su-34 aircraft and UAV pilots in combat actions.

▫️Operational-Tactical Aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces delivered strikes at power facilities supporting the enterprises of the Ukrainian defense industry, airbase infrastructure, an unmanned aerial vehicle assembly workshop.

▫️The Russian Armed Forces posted Akatsiya self-propelled systems, Tor-M2 SAM system, Grad MLRS in action.

▫️Laros 2024 joint Russian-Laotian drills kicked off in the Primorye region.

Russian Defense Ministry

https://x.com/dana916/status/1836524905031954436

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/distant_earth83/status...14423642689713

[shaberon]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
The initial report of the Toropets attack above was IMO deliberately misleading:

1. By tendentiously framing it as WW3 alert (this kind of framing - especially by headlines, is SOP for the worst kind of mass media).

2. By gratuitously asserting it was a "NATO" attack - hence an escalation and crossing of the red line.

Well, yes, it's like a copy of everything ever posted.

Again, I keep noticing, almost everything in English uses something a bit off, like this. They can't talk straight.

Reports from other countries tend to be the opposite -- so dry there is barely anything there.

This is simple, Ukraine is really dangerous, Russia has excellent defenses but they are not going to be able to prevent everything. Some of that perhaps could even be attributed to traitors or incompetence in their ranks. On the scale of things, the "problems" for Russia are rather small and usually result in a productive fix, and so far if Ukraine manages to hit some Russian ammo, it is not really going to change anything. Provoking Belarus would. All I know is that whoever is in charge is going to make a very bad decision.

[Bruce G Charlton]

Gilbert Doctorow seems to have a useful (and expert) perspective in these matters.

In his most recent article and interview, he makes a few points of nuance of a kind that get lost in the polarized debate:

Excerpt:

With respect to Boris Johnson’s little speech to the Yalta European conference held in Ukraine last week in which he spoke in the most flattering terms about Ukrainian military capabilities and their future role in the European defense, I think it is a mistake to put everything down to delusional thinking as so many of my peers are doing. I must agree with Boris on the heroism, on the valor of many of the Ukrainian soldiers. That 600,000 of them have been slaughtered senselessly is the national tragedy for which the Zelensky gang with its stranglehold on power is to blame, together with the cynical and cruel NATO backers of his regime. I have said before and repeat today that the Russian advance in the Donbas and now the clean-up operation in Kursk are not a walk in the rose garden. The Russians face tough fighting which is due to the residual patriotism and courage of Ukrainian soldiers.

With respect to Lloyd Austin, I make reference to his answer to a reporter on giving permission to Kiev to use NATO missiles to strike at the heartland of Russia. This exchange took place a couple of days before Vladimir Putin issued his warning about the use of NATO missiles in this way. Said Austin, 1) Kiev has no need for the Storm Shadow, because it has other means available to it to strike military targets deep in Russia, 2) the Russians have already pulled back their bombers and arms caches beyond the range of the Storm Shadow. These arguments were lucid and correct. Accordingly, it appears that the U.S. military has not only brawn but also brains.

[Vicus]

Russia strikes Ukraine’s key signals facility – MOD 19 Sep, 2024

The attack targeted the communications center of the Main Intelligence Directorate, the Russian Defense Ministry has said



Russian forces have conducted a strike on Ukraine’s key military communications facility, as well as a number of other high-priority targets, the Defense Ministry in Moscow has said.

In a statement on Thursday, the ministry said that Russian warplanes, drones, missiles and artillery had successfully “hit the main center of special radio communications of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Armed Forces of Ukraine,” plus critical airfield infrastructure facilities.

Officials did not say where the center was located, nor comment on the extent of the damage.

Ukrainian media and officials reported several explosions in Kharkov and Sumy Region, with several blasts also heard in Kiev on Wednesday night. According to local officials, the strike on Kharkov used several ballistic missiles.

Russia continues to carry out high-precision strikes on Ukraine’s military installations, including mercenary bases, defense, industrial and energy facilities, while insisting that those attacks never target civilians.

In August the Defense Ministry claimed to have destroyed a command-and-control facility of one of Ukraine’s mechanized brigades with an Iskander-M missile, eliminating more than a dozen officers.

https://www.rt.com/russia/604275-rus...nals-facility/

[Vicus]

Russia strikes Ukrainian troops northwest ofe Dniepr River – MOD (VIDEO)

Glide bombs hit targets as far as 20 km beyond the major waterway which represents the front line in Kherson Region

The Russian Defense Ministry has showcased its use of glide bombs against Ukrainian positions on the right bank of the Dnieper River.

A video of the airstrikes, which was apparently filmed at night, showed a series of explosions in three different villages.

The settlements are located relatively close to each other in the Kiev-controlled part of Kherson Region, which Moscow has considered part of Russia since a 2022 referendum. Their distance to the major waterway, which serves as a natural barrier separating the opposing forces, is between 12km and 20km.

The strikes took place roughly 90km to the east of Kherson, the region’s capital, which Russian forces pulled out of in November 2022. Moscow said the retreat was unfortunate, but necessary so that troops could move to better-defended positions. Kiev claimed it as a major military victory.

The Russian attacks involved air bombs fitted with special glide kits, which turn the regular gravity weapons into longer-range precise munitions. Ukrainian officials have called such bombs one of the biggest threats to the country’s frontline troops, due to their power and abundance in the Russian arsenal.

The Russian Defense Ministry said the strikes targeted locations where Ukrainian troops were being stationed before being sent to the frontline.

https://www.rt.com/russia/604230-gli...kherson-video/

[ExomatrixTV]

• Possible Drones Reported Near NATO Ammunition Depot?

September 19, 2024 between 20.20 PM and 21.20 PM ... 3 Different Dutch 🇳🇱 Military Helicopters were flying many times over Benschop Ammunition Depot (encircling the area multiple times).

• BOEING-VERTOL CH-47 Chinook helicopter, MCDONNELL DOUGLAS AH-64 Apache helicopter & AEROSPATIALE AS-332 Super Puma Mk2 helicopter.

I saw it LIVE today minutes ago using globe.adsbexchange.com with a past tracking trail system (track record).

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[shaberon]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
BOEING-VERTOL CH-47 Chinook helicopter, MCDONNELL DOUGLAS AH-64 Apache[/URL] helicopter

That's curious because those are what used to be deployed here.

A Chinook is a transport, which implies some kind of response crew. Around here, these have been replaced by something that is not quite as big, but much faster and stealthier. Those are the Army.

The Apaches are in the command of the Governor in the National Guard. That would probably be what you would want, for example, to shoot drones.

Any of that weaponry might become subject to a drone shootout or something, who wants to be forced to live near that?

Or this? I can't recall if we got a translation to update what might be called the story of five reefers:

Back in early August, at least 400 (mostly French) personnel were killed or wounded in a precision strike.

However, instead of finally leaving the country, foreign personnel keep coming...

The French are particularly affected by this. Namely, on September 4, a precision strike was launched at the positions of NATO personnel in the city of Krivoy Rog.

According to various reports, upwards of 250 soldiers were neutralized. Such high-precision strikes are a regular occurrence. Obviously, the Neo-Nazi junta and the mainstream propaganda machine tried hiding this with claims that the Arena Hotel in the city was “packed with civilians” and that “the attack damaged a civilian facility, injuring 5 people, including one child”. However, local sources reported that the area was “immediately cordoned off and the rubble was cleared”. It soon turned out that the bodies of “civilians” who were recovered from under the rubble were not those of hotel employees and tourists, but of military personnel, including numerous Europeans, mainly the French, Romanians and Poles. Around 250 bodies were transported to the morgue in five refrigerated trucks, an “unfortunate” end of yet another “Ukrainian war safari” for NATO occupation forces and soldiers of fortune.

[kfm27917]

"Militarily, Russia today has no opponents: the West has no strategy – neither geopolitical nor military – but uses propaganda as its main weapon and is embarrassing itself on the battlefield to such an extent that it would make you laugh if schadenfreude were appropriate – it’s not: countless people are dying as a result of these cynical games organized by a few sociopaths, and the media in the West are either bought or so stupid that you can’t laugh."

- *Peter Hanseler

(*In this trilingual blog - Voice from Russia - Peter Hanseler, a Swiss living in Moscow, reports on geopolitical and geo-economic issues.)

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Russia Wins, Europe Loses, Washington Lets Brussels Down
September 20th, 2024

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...-brussels-down

MUST READ

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Mod Edit by Tintin: thanks, a good article, and largely condenses much of what we already know, with Peter Hanseler's own insights. He is based in Moscow. I've chosen a couple of pieces from it to bring up-front. The article is perhaps too long to post in full here

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[Extracted]:

True strategists have endless patience

The patience of President Putin is repeatedly pondered – by both pro-Western and pro-Russian exponents. One commentator on our article “Kursk: invasion, start of war, distraction, pledge?” quoted the proverb “Beware the fury of a patient man.” by John Dryden.

In my opinion, however, describing the attitude of President Putin and his team as patient is an oversimplification and in no way captures the essence of Russian strategy. A chess player without patience inevitably loses. A gifted chess player creates the conditions for victory over his opponent by patiently implementing a strategy once it has been recognized as correct.

Putin’s chessboard stretches as far as Russian interests extend. He will not change his strategy, which has proven its worth over the last 24 years, by reacting emotionally to the events in Kursk or the missile strikes in Russia, which are very painful for the affected population. In my opinion, anyone who believes that Russia can be provoked in this way is wrong and has – once again – failed to understand Russia’s strategy and its implementation. The fact that the entire West is pursuing this course of provocation and believes in it is by no means an argument for its success, but rather shows that the West has no strategy at all. The lack of strategy is easily demonstrated: In our article “The consequences of the intercepted German Luftwaffe conversation mean war”, we described a possible target for Russia in response for the use of Taurus.

Let’s assume that Russia would carry out such a strike, which, by the way, would be unproblematic. What would Germany’s reaction be? – Screaming, nothing more. The whole of NATO in Europe would have no instruments to respond in a serious manner. NATO would have no chance in a conventional conflict. That is not an assertion, but a fact. NATO has been getting a bloody nose in Ukraine over the past two and a half years, at the expense of the Ukrainians. The NATO forces themselves do not have any serious armed forces in Europe, neither in terms of size nor quality.

The only first-class army in NATO is that of Turkey and it will certainly not march against Russia. Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 with an army of almost four million men, and the Soviet Union was poorly prepared militarily at the time. The result is a well-known fact. What would happen if NATO were to invade Russia with a few hundred thousand soldiers from various NATO member states, a Russia that has never been so militarily strong and war-tested? A downright ridiculous thought.

[Tintin]

Oh dear

Source: https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1837010099337839008

Text: "Ukrainian air defense drone mistakes 3 cows for secret Russian spy satellite."

[Vicus]

[QUOTE=Tintin;1634550]Oh dear

Text: "Ukrainian air defense drone mistakes 3 cows for secret Russian spy satellite."

That was the Russian secret new super weapon !

[Jaak]

[QUOTE=Vicus;1634564]

Posted by Tintin (here)
Oh dear

Text: "Ukrainian air defense drone mistakes 3 cows for secret Russian spy satellite."

That was the Russian secret new super weapon !

Might be good idea to release hundreds of balloons that have some random metal junk like empty cans etc attached to it when wind is blowing in right direction so they would show up in radar just to keep enemy busy and let them waste ammo and resources to deal with those. Add one or two balloons with some spying capability also or some drones into a mix . Should be relatively cheap option to annoy the enemy.