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    "A brief summary of Zelensky's Kursk adventure is already clearly visible in Donbass, and in the Kursk region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have begun to lose controlled territories, while suffering huge losses on unprepared borders.

    All statements by the Presidential Office that the Kursk operation stabilized the situation on the eastern front are not true, the Russian army is conducting a successful offensive there. Western military analysts are already predicting that Ugledar may fall in the coming weeks, and Pokrovsk - closer to winter.

    That is, Bankova's plans that the invasion of the Kursk region would force the Kremlin to redeploy resources from the Donetsk region have failed. On the contrary, the Russian Armed Forces captured several cities, reaching from Pokrovsk and Mirnograd and bringing down the power of the Russian army on both logistics hubs.

    As the Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen themselves say, the recent battles were “very intense,” and “there were more losses than before” (the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ losses in personnel and equipment in the Kursk direction alone are already comparable to Kyiv’s counteroffensive last year)."

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    Well, I'm no fan of Mike Johnson either but here he does sock it somewhat to the little Green Goblin

    Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, letter to Volydymr Zelensky

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    ✍️ Anti-Russian Sanctions: Opportunities Exhausted

    However, if the West identifies Russian vulnerabilities, it will strike again.

    The American Enterprise Institute (AEI), after studying the situation regarding anti-Russian commodity sanctions as of 2024, has reached some rather obvious conclusions: these sanctions have not achieved their goals concerning Russia, and their potential appears to be exhausted.

    Forecasts regarding the economic consequences of sanctions have proven incorrect, and attempts to predict their political impact have become even more detached from reality.

    Gas was not the only commodity against which stricter sanctions could have been imposed. Russia is also a major exporter of metals.

    It is noteworthy that titanium remains an effective avenue for anti-Western sanctions. Apparently, the potential crisis has been deemed too significant for the Russian side to allow.

    Another clear vulnerability for the West lies in uranium. Among the reasons why Russia does not ban uranium supplies to the Western market is the perceived lack of alternative consumers. Furthermore, while Russia is a major uranium supplier, it is not a monopoly. Any attempts to disrupt uranium markets would incentivize other suppliers to increase their production.

    At present, the sanctions that could potentially be imposed against Russia have reached a point of equilibrium. Further exacerbation of these sanctions by the West, given the current technological framework, is either impossible or unprofitable.

    One of Russia's key objectives should be to reach a level of technological and economic development that fosters a sufficient domestic market for the consumption of a significant portion of produced materials and the creation of new sales markets in friendly countries. This, in turn, should be part of a broader strategy, as markets also need to be solvent.

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    🇷🇺🇱🇦 Russian and Laotian servicemen liberate settlement from mock terrorists

    In Primorsky region at the Sergeyevsky training ground of the Eastern MD, an active phase of the Laros 2024 joint Russian-Laotian drills started.

    The joint group of troops of the Armed Forces of Russia and Laos is due to practise talks with the mock terrorists, evacuate civilian population, and mop up illegal armed formations in a settlement.

    According to scenario, a detachment of terrorists seized a settlement and imprisoned local people.
    The Joint Staff of the drills decide to conduct talks with the terrorist to free civilian population. A Russian cutting-edge system was employed. It was a Zhuk-75 robotic system designed to lay cable lines, ammunition, and communication assets.

    As the locals were evacuated motorised rifle units blocked the settlement. Assault detachments of the Special Operations Forces being covered by AGS-17 automatic grenade launchers and BTR-82 APCs moved to the settlement aboard small-size manoeuvrable vehicles like buggies, ATVs, and motorbikes.

    Tank crews of the Lao People's Army have inflicted fire damage on mock manpower clusters. Special forces team, together with mine action specialists, carried out tasks to detect explosives, weapons and ammunition caches.

    The final stage of the Laros 2024 exercise is to take place on 26 September 2024. During the stage, tactical groups of the two armies will chase and isolate illegal armed groups in an assigned area, inflict fire damage on enemy manpower and hardware, and launch an air strike on enemy reserves.

    Special forces units, tank crews, artillery, infantry fighting vehicles, flamethrowers, and Igla man-portable air defence systems, as well as Russian ground-attack and army aviation will be involved in this stage. Tactical airborne troops of the Armed Forces of Russia and the Lao People's Army will also be deployed as part of joint assault groups of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

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    Tucker Carlson blasts Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro for blessing killings of Russian civilians

    “It just spun me up so completely watching that grinning ghoul with that other grinning ghoul signing an artillery shell. He's never seen one go off. I have. And anybody who takes delight in the death of civilians is a freak,” Carlson emphasized at the Tucker Carlson Live event in Reading, Pennsylvania.

    “If you take delight in the suffering of other human beings, you're evil. And I mean that. That's what my religion tells me. That's what common sense tells me. That's disgusting,” the commentator declared of Shapiro’s support for Zelensky's killing of Russian civilians.

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    Russian nuclear doctrine

    Putin’s final warning to the West?

    On Wednesday, a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine was announced in Russia. What Putin said was a clear warning to the West not to escalate and provoke further in Ukraine and against Russia and Belarus in general.



    by Anti-Spiegel
    26 September 2024 02:36

    Until now, Russia's nuclear doctrine has stipulated that Russia would only use nuclear weapons if its existence as a state was threatened, if it was itself attacked with nuclear weapons, or if its nuclear deterrence capabilities were threatened. Russia has so far denied itself the right to carry out a preemptive nuclear strike, as the USA has allowed itself in its nuclear doctrine.

    The West's constant escalation in Ukraine, where military support was once limited to body armor and medical equipment but now includes heavy battle tanks, fighter planes and cruise missiles, has increased calls in Russia to finally put the West in its place. This is all the more true since the West is openly discussing allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West.

    I have reported extensively on the discussion initiated by the Russian expert Professor Karaganov about finally not only announcing red lines to the West, but also reacting to their crossing by having Russia attack military targets in NATO as a warning, possibly with nuclear weapons, to make it clear to the West that Russia is not bluffing. You can read the details of his argument in this interview , which I have translated.

    The discussions in the West about allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West are a constant topic in the Russian media , and there too it is openly discussed that the nuclear deterrence that prevented the Cold War from becoming a hot war will only work if the West understands that Russia is also prepared to use its nuclear weapons.

    The West seems to doubt this, as the West's continued escalation steps show. It has recently become known that Selensky does not want to negotiate with Russia after all , but is demanding more weapons and attacks on Russia from the USA and the West. The fact that there are no voices in the West that want to put a stop to this confirms that the West has lost its fear of nuclear weapons.

    Now the Russian government has reacted and on Wednesday the Kremlin published a statement by Russian President Putin on changes to Russia's nuclear doctrine, which Putin made at a meeting of the Russian Security Council. Russia has obviously significantly reduced its limits on the use of nuclear weapons.

    I have translated Putin's entire statement and added explanations to help understand what was said.

    The statement began with a long introduction:

    "Good afternoon, dear colleagues!
    Today we are holding a scheduled meeting on nuclear deterrence, which takes place twice a year. And on today's agenda is an issue related to updating the foundations of the state policy on nuclear deterrence.
    Along with the military doctrine, this is the document that officially defines and describes in detail the Russian nuclear strategy. First of all, it sets out the basic principle of the use of nuclear weapons, namely that the use of nuclear weapons is an extreme measure to protect the country's sovereignty.
    I emphasize that we have always approached such issues very responsibly. Realizing the enormous power of these weapons, we have strove to strengthen the international legal basis for global stability and prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons and their components.
    Today, the nuclear triad remains the main guarantee of the security of our state and citizens and a tool for maintaining strategic parity and balance of power in the world.
    At the same time, we note that the current military and political situation is changing dynamically, and we must take this into account. This includes the emergence of new sources of military threats and risks for Russia and our allies.
    It is important to predict the development of the situation and, accordingly, adapt the provisions of the strategic planning document to the current realities.
    Over the past year, specialists from the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Security Council apparatus and other bodies have conducted an in-depth, comprehensive analysis and assessed the need to adjust our approaches to the possible use of nuclear weapons. Based on the results of this work, a number of clarifications were proposed regarding the definition of the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons.
    For example, the draft expands the category of states and military alliances subject to nuclear deterrence, as well as the list of military threats to neutralize which nuclear deterrence measures are taken."

    So much for the introduction, then things got interesting:

    "I would like to draw your attention to something else. The updated version of the document proposes that aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear-weapon state, should be considered a joint attack on the Russian Federation."

    Putin is saying that if, for example, Ukraine (a non-nuclear weapons state) attacks targets deep in Russia's hinterland with its own drones, as has happened several times since last week, and is supported by the USA (a nuclear weapons state) by, for example, providing Ukraine with the necessary reconnaissance data or ground maps for navigation without GPS , Russia will view this as a joint attack on Russia, with all the military and nuclear consequences that this entails.

    Putin then became even more specific:

    "The conditions for Russia's transition to the use of nuclear weapons are also clearly spelled out. We will consider this possibility if we receive reliable information about a massive launch of aerospace assets and their crossing of our state border. I am talking about strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic and other aircraft."

    Last week there were attacks from Ukraine in which well over a hundred drones were fired at Russia at once. Above all, however, this is likely to be a warning to NATO, as the Baltic states and Scandinavian countries are openly talking about preventive attacks on military targets in Russia. In such a case, Russia would probably respond with nuclear weapons, especially since in such an attack Russia does not even know whether some of the incoming missiles are nuclear-armed.

    Putin continued:

    "We reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in the event of aggression against Russia and Belarus as a member of the Union State. All these issues have been agreed with the Belarusian side and the President of Belarus. This also applies in the event that the enemy poses a critical threat to our sovereignty with conventional weapons."

    Since NATO is massively building up its military presence in Poland on the Belarusian border, this point was important to prevent NATO from believing that Russia might shy away from protecting Belarus.

    Finally, Putin said:

    "Finally, I would like to point out that all clarifications are very precisely calibrated and correspond to the current military threats and risks in relation to the Russian Federation."

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of the Russian Security Council, commented on the decisions on Telegram in even clearer terms. I have translated his post (emphasis as in the original).

    Start of translation:

    The eagerly awaited event

    The Russian President has outlined approaches to revising the foundations of state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence. The main changes are as follows:

    1 Aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the support or participation of a nuclear-armed country, is considered a joint attack. It is clear to everyone which countries we are talking about.

    2 An equivalent nuclear defense is being established for Belarus, our closest ally. To the “delight” of Poland and numerous NATO pygmies.

    3 The massive launching and crossing of our borders by enemy aerospace assets, including aircraft, missiles and drones, may, under certain conditions, become a reason for the use of nuclear weapons. A reason to think not only of the corrupt neo-Nazi regime, but of all of Russia's enemies who are driving the world towards a nuclear catastrophe.

    It is clear that any situation giving rise to nuclear defense must be assessed in conjunction with other factors, and the decision to use nuclear weapons is made by the Supreme Commander. However, it is precisely the change in the normative conditions for the use of nuclear components by our country that can cool the ardor of opponents who have not yet lost their instinct for self-preservation. And for the fools, only the Roman maxim remains: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare…

    End of translation

    Source: Thomas Roeper russo-german journalist reporting from Russia
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    Russian nuclear doctrine

    Putin’s final warning to the West?

    On Wednesday, a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine was announced in Russia. What Putin said was a clear warning to the West not to escalate and provoke further in Ukraine and against Russia and Belarus in general.



    by Anti-Spiegel
    26 September 2024 02:36

    Until now, Russia's nuclear doctrine has stipulated that Russia would only use nuclear weapons if its existence as a state was threatened, if it was itself attacked with nuclear weapons, or if its nuclear deterrence capabilities were threatened. Russia has so far denied itself the right to carry out a preemptive nuclear strike, as the USA has allowed itself in its nuclear doctrine.

    The West's constant escalation in Ukraine, where military support was once limited to body armor and medical equipment but now includes heavy battle tanks, fighter planes and cruise missiles, has increased calls in Russia to finally put the West in its place. This is all the more true since the West is openly discussing allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West.

    I have reported extensively on the discussion initiated by the Russian expert Professor Karaganov about finally not only announcing red lines to the West, but also reacting to their crossing by having Russia attack military targets in NATO as a warning, possibly with nuclear weapons, to make it clear to the West that Russia is not bluffing. You can read the details of his argument in this interview , which I have translated.

    The discussions in the West about allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West are a constant topic in the Russian media , and there too it is openly discussed that the nuclear deterrence that prevented the Cold War from becoming a hot war will only work if the West understands that Russia is also prepared to use its nuclear weapons.

    The West seems to doubt this, as the West's continued escalation steps show. It has recently become known that Selensky does not want to negotiate with Russia after all , but is demanding more weapons and attacks on Russia from the USA and the West. The fact that there are no voices in the West that want to put a stop to this confirms that the West has lost its fear of nuclear weapons.

    Now the Russian government has reacted and on Wednesday the Kremlin published a statement by Russian President Putin on changes to Russia's nuclear doctrine, which Putin made at a meeting of the Russian Security Council. Russia has obviously significantly reduced its limits on the use of nuclear weapons.

    I have translated Putin's entire statement and added explanations to help understand what was said.

    The statement began with a long introduction:

    "Good afternoon, dear colleagues!
    Today we are holding a scheduled meeting on nuclear deterrence, which takes place twice a year. And on today's agenda is an issue related to updating the foundations of the state policy on nuclear deterrence.
    Along with the military doctrine, this is the document that officially defines and describes in detail the Russian nuclear strategy. First of all, it sets out the basic principle of the use of nuclear weapons, namely that the use of nuclear weapons is an extreme measure to protect the country's sovereignty.
    I emphasize that we have always approached such issues very responsibly. Realizing the enormous power of these weapons, we have strove to strengthen the international legal basis for global stability and prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons and their components.
    Today, the nuclear triad remains the main guarantee of the security of our state and citizens and a tool for maintaining strategic parity and balance of power in the world.
    At the same time, we note that the current military and political situation is changing dynamically, and we must take this into account. This includes the emergence of new sources of military threats and risks for Russia and our allies.
    It is important to predict the development of the situation and, accordingly, adapt the provisions of the strategic planning document to the current realities.
    Over the past year, specialists from the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Security Council apparatus and other bodies have conducted an in-depth, comprehensive analysis and assessed the need to adjust our approaches to the possible use of nuclear weapons. Based on the results of this work, a number of clarifications were proposed regarding the definition of the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons.
    For example, the draft expands the category of states and military alliances subject to nuclear deterrence, as well as the list of military threats to neutralize which nuclear deterrence measures are taken."

    So much for the introduction, then things got interesting:

    "I would like to draw your attention to something else. The updated version of the document proposes that aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear-weapon state, should be considered a joint attack on the Russian Federation."

    Putin is saying that if, for example, Ukraine (a non-nuclear weapons state) attacks targets deep in Russia's hinterland with its own drones, as has happened several times since last week, and is supported by the USA (a nuclear weapons state) by, for example, providing Ukraine with the necessary reconnaissance data or ground maps for navigation without GPS , Russia will view this as a joint attack on Russia, with all the military and nuclear consequences that this entails.

    Putin then became even more specific:

    "The conditions for Russia's transition to the use of nuclear weapons are also clearly spelled out. We will consider this possibility if we receive reliable information about a massive launch of aerospace assets and their crossing of our state border. I am talking about strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic and other aircraft."

    Last week there were attacks from Ukraine in which well over a hundred drones were fired at Russia at once. Above all, however, this is likely to be a warning to NATO, as the Baltic states and Scandinavian countries are openly talking about preventive attacks on military targets in Russia. In such a case, Russia would probably respond with nuclear weapons, especially since in such an attack Russia does not even know whether some of the incoming missiles are nuclear-armed.

    Putin continued:

    "We reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in the event of aggression against Russia and Belarus as a member of the Union State. All these issues have been agreed with the Belarusian side and the President of Belarus. This also applies in the event that the enemy poses a critical threat to our sovereignty with conventional weapons."

    Since NATO is massively building up its military presence in Poland on the Belarusian border, this point was important to prevent NATO from believing that Russia might shy away from protecting Belarus.

    Finally, Putin said:

    "Finally, I would like to point out that all clarifications are very precisely calibrated and correspond to the current military threats and risks in relation to the Russian Federation."

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of the Russian Security Council, commented on the decisions on Telegram in even clearer terms. I have translated his post (emphasis as in the original).

    Start of translation:

    The eagerly awaited event

    The Russian President has outlined approaches to revising the foundations of state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence. The main changes are as follows:

    1 Aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the support or participation of a nuclear-armed country, is considered a joint attack. It is clear to everyone which countries we are talking about.

    2 An equivalent nuclear defense is being established for Belarus, our closest ally. To the “delight” of Poland and numerous NATO pygmies.

    3 The massive launching and crossing of our borders by enemy aerospace assets, including aircraft, missiles and drones, may, under certain conditions, become a reason for the use of nuclear weapons. A reason to think not only of the corrupt neo-Nazi regime, but of all of Russia's enemies who are driving the world towards a nuclear catastrophe.

    It is clear that any situation giving rise to nuclear defense must be assessed in conjunction with other factors, and the decision to use nuclear weapons is made by the Supreme Commander. However, it is precisely the change in the normative conditions for the use of nuclear components by our country that can cool the ardor of opponents who have not yet lost their instinct for self-preservation. And for the fools, only the Roman maxim remains: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare…

    End of translation

    Source: Thomas Roeper russo-german journalist reporting from Russia
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    Well, I'm no fan of Mike Johnson either but here he does sock it somewhat to the little Green Goblin

    Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, letter to Volydymr Zelensky

    He does, albeit in whiny brat mode.

    I admire the part where he says foreigners should not have an opinion on American domestics.

    As to "interference", I am not sure how ignoring Republicans interferes. It's a good precedent, which could be liberally applied to the Dems as well. The esteemed Speaker ought to be spending the next session gargling on his teeth.

    This is the height of hypocrisy from a regime that has opinions, interferences, and more, globally. Such as in...wait a second, isn't he responding to the antics of a puppet government?

    It's not puppetish enough? Right, time to interfere with its selection of ambassadors.

    I personally don't want to be bothered by the "Election" he is such a sissy about. It's like asking a fascist to mock you. Meanwhile, the U. S.-backed battles around the world are granted a free pass for a year, because "nothing changes" because "Americans are busy with elections". This is so dead. Why do you keep flogging it along?

    Oh, it's to "end Russia's war". But they do not have this ability. The only thing they could do is end foreign interference, bring the focus back into American domestics, and attempt to deal with people like me, and they do not have this ability either. So, it's great the letter has a demanding tone to it, but is otherwise unbelievable, other than I believe he represents a club who will try to act under the mindless meanderings he uttered.

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    Pervasive Russophobia Drives ‘Total Blackout’ of Ukraine’s War Crimes – Analyst 14 hours ago


    Odessa Massacre, 10 years ago ukros Neo Nazis burned 50 people alive.

    Multiple occurrences of war crimes have been attributed to far-right regiments in Ukraine, including the use of cluster munitions and documented instances of the torture.

    Anti-Russian sentiment has deep roots in modern Western society, owing in part to the country’s military power and historical status as a foil to Western Europe.
    In recent years this struggle has acutely played out in the country of Ukraine, which the United States has worked tirelessly to pull into the Western orbit. 2014’s Euromaidan coup installed a fiercely anti-Russian government in the Mariinskyi Palace, empowering Ukrainian nationalists with grievances against Moscow dating back to Nazism’s mid-20th century march across the continent.

    The development led to significant hostility toward ethnic Russians in the country, especially in Ukraine’s eastern provinces. Atrocities such as the Odessa Trade Union House massacre demonstrated the physical threat posed to Russo-Ukrainians, while the banning of the Russian language in schools and places of business illustrated what observers claimed was a broad suppression of Russian culture.

    In the United States, anti-Russian sentiment dating back to the Cold War has been rekindled by claims of Russian interference in US presidential politics – a narrative frequently not borne out by investigations into the matter. Widespread Russophobia has heightened the typically militaristic tenor of Western news reporting, causing coverage of the Ukraine conflict to fall even below the standards of typical war coverage in the United States according to Covert Action Magazine managing editor Jeremy Kuzmarov.

    The analyst joined Sputnik’s Fault Lines program Wednesday to discuss the state of journalistic reporting on the ongoing conflict.

    “I think that the media coverage has been absolutely abysmal,” claimed Kuzmarov, an author of several critical books on US foreign policy. “We've had a decade of Russophobia that we've discussed on the show that's really impacted people considerably. And there's been a total blackout.”

    “Especially liberal media has been particularly biased and Russophobic, like MSNBC and CNN, as well as alternative media like Democracy Now! that has a following among activists who are more in the peace movement – there's nothing on that network ever. They've never interviewed Eastern Ukrainians who've been victimized by the Ukrainian military or endured shelling of their cities.”

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    https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/peace...-minister-modi
    A great discussion with UKColumn promoting peace, discussions with Scott Ritter and Major General GD Bakshi trying to resolve conflict.
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    Russian nuclear doctrine

    Putin’s final warning to the West?

    On Wednesday, a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine was announced in Russia. What Putin said was a clear warning to the West not to escalate and provoke further in Ukraine and against Russia and Belarus in general.



    by Anti-Spiegel
    26 September 2024 02:36

    Until now, Russia's nuclear doctrine has stipulated that Russia would only use nuclear weapons if its existence as a state was threatened, if it was itself attacked with nuclear weapons, or if its nuclear deterrence capabilities were threatened. Russia has so far denied itself the right to carry out a preemptive nuclear strike, as the USA has allowed itself in its nuclear doctrine.

    The West's constant escalation in Ukraine, where military support was once limited to body armor and medical equipment but now includes heavy battle tanks, fighter planes and cruise missiles, has increased calls in Russia to finally put the West in its place. This is all the more true since the West is openly discussing allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West.

    I have reported extensively on the discussion initiated by the Russian expert Professor Karaganov about finally not only announcing red lines to the West, but also reacting to their crossing by having Russia attack military targets in NATO as a warning, possibly with nuclear weapons, to make it clear to the West that Russia is not bluffing. You can read the details of his argument in this interview , which I have translated.

    The discussions in the West about allowing Ukraine to attack deep in Russia's hinterland with weapons supplied by the West are a constant topic in the Russian media , and there too it is openly discussed that the nuclear deterrence that prevented the Cold War from becoming a hot war will only work if the West understands that Russia is also prepared to use its nuclear weapons.

    The West seems to doubt this, as the West's continued escalation steps show. It has recently become known that Selensky does not want to negotiate with Russia after all , but is demanding more weapons and attacks on Russia from the USA and the West. The fact that there are no voices in the West that want to put a stop to this confirms that the West has lost its fear of nuclear weapons.

    Now the Russian government has reacted and on Wednesday the Kremlin published a statement by Russian President Putin on changes to Russia's nuclear doctrine, which Putin made at a meeting of the Russian Security Council. Russia has obviously significantly reduced its limits on the use of nuclear weapons.

    I have translated Putin's entire statement and added explanations to help understand what was said.

    The statement began with a long introduction:

    "Good afternoon, dear colleagues!
    Today we are holding a scheduled meeting on nuclear deterrence, which takes place twice a year. And on today's agenda is an issue related to updating the foundations of the state policy on nuclear deterrence.
    Along with the military doctrine, this is the document that officially defines and describes in detail the Russian nuclear strategy. First of all, it sets out the basic principle of the use of nuclear weapons, namely that the use of nuclear weapons is an extreme measure to protect the country's sovereignty.
    I emphasize that we have always approached such issues very responsibly. Realizing the enormous power of these weapons, we have strove to strengthen the international legal basis for global stability and prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons and their components.
    Today, the nuclear triad remains the main guarantee of the security of our state and citizens and a tool for maintaining strategic parity and balance of power in the world.
    At the same time, we note that the current military and political situation is changing dynamically, and we must take this into account. This includes the emergence of new sources of military threats and risks for Russia and our allies.
    It is important to predict the development of the situation and, accordingly, adapt the provisions of the strategic planning document to the current realities.
    Over the past year, specialists from the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Security Council apparatus and other bodies have conducted an in-depth, comprehensive analysis and assessed the need to adjust our approaches to the possible use of nuclear weapons. Based on the results of this work, a number of clarifications were proposed regarding the definition of the conditions for the use of nuclear weapons.
    For example, the draft expands the category of states and military alliances subject to nuclear deterrence, as well as the list of military threats to neutralize which nuclear deterrence measures are taken."

    So much for the introduction, then things got interesting:

    "I would like to draw your attention to something else. The updated version of the document proposes that aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear-weapon state, should be considered a joint attack on the Russian Federation."

    Putin is saying that if, for example, Ukraine (a non-nuclear weapons state) attacks targets deep in Russia's hinterland with its own drones, as has happened several times since last week, and is supported by the USA (a nuclear weapons state) by, for example, providing Ukraine with the necessary reconnaissance data or ground maps for navigation without GPS , Russia will view this as a joint attack on Russia, with all the military and nuclear consequences that this entails.

    Putin then became even more specific:

    "The conditions for Russia's transition to the use of nuclear weapons are also clearly spelled out. We will consider this possibility if we receive reliable information about a massive launch of aerospace assets and their crossing of our state border. I am talking about strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic and other aircraft."

    Last week there were attacks from Ukraine in which well over a hundred drones were fired at Russia at once. Above all, however, this is likely to be a warning to NATO, as the Baltic states and Scandinavian countries are openly talking about preventive attacks on military targets in Russia. In such a case, Russia would probably respond with nuclear weapons, especially since in such an attack Russia does not even know whether some of the incoming missiles are nuclear-armed.

    Putin continued:

    "We reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in the event of aggression against Russia and Belarus as a member of the Union State. All these issues have been agreed with the Belarusian side and the President of Belarus. This also applies in the event that the enemy poses a critical threat to our sovereignty with conventional weapons."

    Since NATO is massively building up its military presence in Poland on the Belarusian border, this point was important to prevent NATO from believing that Russia might shy away from protecting Belarus.

    Finally, Putin said:

    "Finally, I would like to point out that all clarifications are very precisely calibrated and correspond to the current military threats and risks in relation to the Russian Federation."

    Dmitry Medvedev, the deputy head of the Russian Security Council, commented on the decisions on Telegram in even clearer terms. I have translated his post (emphasis as in the original).

    Start of translation:

    The eagerly awaited event

    The Russian President has outlined approaches to revising the foundations of state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence. The main changes are as follows:

    1 Aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear-weapon state, but with the support or participation of a nuclear-armed country, is considered a joint attack. It is clear to everyone which countries we are talking about.

    2 An equivalent nuclear defense is being established for Belarus, our closest ally. To the “delight” of Poland and numerous NATO pygmies.

    3 The massive launching and crossing of our borders by enemy aerospace assets, including aircraft, missiles and drones, may, under certain conditions, become a reason for the use of nuclear weapons. A reason to think not only of the corrupt neo-Nazi regime, but of all of Russia's enemies who are driving the world towards a nuclear catastrophe.

    It is clear that any situation giving rise to nuclear defense must be assessed in conjunction with other factors, and the decision to use nuclear weapons is made by the Supreme Commander. However, it is precisely the change in the normative conditions for the use of nuclear components by our country that can cool the ardor of opponents who have not yet lost their instinct for self-preservation. And for the fools, only the Roman maxim remains: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare…

    End of translation

    Source: Thomas Roeper russo-german journalist reporting from Russia
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    You can see it in their faces and bodies .... they know what happens next!

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    All of them know!

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    And Putin .... You can see that he didn't want to even read all that out .... it looks like he had no choice and just chucked the script away asap!

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    Medvedev Unplugged does know his Latin.

    But then Russian educational standards are in a class by itself, as I never cease to learn here in Moscow.

    Commenting on the update of Russia’s nuclear doctrine, Medvedev noted,

    “This change in our country’s guidelines for using nuclear weapons, in and of itself, may cool the ardor of those of our opponents who have not yet lost their sense of self-preservation. As for the dim-witted, only the Roman maxim remains: caelo tonantem credidimus Jovem Regnare …”

    All of us who studied Latin know that comes straight from Horace’s Odes.

    And it goes straight to the point: thunder out of the sky reminds everyone that Jupiter rules.

    Medvedev’s metaphor is a beauty: the only way the “dim-witted” - Hegemonic and the vassal swamp - will learn is when the Russian Jupiter releases a thunderbolt.

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    https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/peace...-minister-modi
    A great discussion with UKColumn promoting peace, discussions with Scott Ritter and Major General GD Bakshi trying to resolve conflict.
    Wonderful

    I haven't seen this yet but it's on my watch list for later today: I'm doing a spot of Autumn (Fall) cleaning at present.

    Here it is in the library along with the description from UK Column:

    Peace in Ukraine: A call to Prime Minister Modi

    Uk Column, September 25th, 2024



    Description:
    According to the Wall Street Journal, roughly 1,000,000 Ukrainians and Russians have been killed or wounded in the war in Ukraine. Many qualified analysts claim the figure is much higher. Yet as the West’s proxy war meat grinder rolls on, the UK US EU NATO clamour to unleash long range weapon attacks against Russia. Against the failing Ukrainian defence, these attacks cannot stall the fate of Ukraine, but they can prolong the brutal war until Ukraine is finally defeated as a functioning economy and as a Nation State.

    As the western world is dragged towards direct war with Russia, India holds a valuable position as an emerging superpower in the powerful position of being a highly respected political voice in both Russia and the US led west. As such, India can be a valuable and influential mediator for peace in Ukraine.

    UKColumn is delighted to have been asked to facilitate a critical discussion between Scott Ritter former USMC and UN Weapons Inspector & Maj Gen Bakshi Indian Army Rtd. Scott is currently well known for his direct and dissecting analysis of the war in Ukraine. Maj Get Gagan Bakshl has a distinguished military career in the Indian army during hostilities and counter-terrorist operations, as well as serving two tenures at the highly prestigious Directorate of General Military Operations. Since the war in Ukraine, Ben Bakshi has been a critical analyst of the military situation in Ukraine and its geopolitical effects in the sphere outside the military. He is highly respected within politics and the media in both India and overseas.
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    Russian Air Force Vet on Ukrainian F-16's Weak Spot: There's No Place Jets Can Hide From Kinzhals 4 hours ago



    Two months of operations by Kiev's first batch of F-16 jets have had little if any notable strategic effect, with the Zelensky regime turning its attention to demands for Gripen and Eurofighter aircraft, and keeping the bulk of its attacks on Russia drone-based. Sputnik asked a veteran Russian military aviation expert what's holding the F-16 back.

    “An airplane is not a needle in a haystack that’s hard to find. It’s a metal object that can only be shoved into a protected aircraft shelter, if available," Major Andrei Krasnoperov, a Russian Aerospace Forces veteran and flight instructor, told Sputnik, commenting on reports by the underground in western Ukraine this week that a Russian strike on an airfield in Starokonstantinov, Khmelnitsky region may have targeted or even destroyed multiple Ukrainian Air Force F-16s.

    "But again, this concrete shelter offers light protection. If one of our Kinzhal missiles were to detonate nearby, the shelter would collapse like a house of cards,” Krasnoperov said.
    Aircraft are a delicate piece of technology, Krasnoperov emphasized, pointing out that even shrapnel damage from a nearby blast could put an F-16 out of action, and require costly repairs, carried out by foreign or foreign-trained specialists, which aren’t easy to come by.

    “As far as I’m aware, Ukraine [received] only six F-16s to date. They lost one themselves, shooting it down by accident using a Patriot and killing their own pilot. As for strikes against our territory, sending F-16s to destroy our ammo depots situated far from the border zone requires coming closer to our air defenses – of which we have plenty along the front, both Pantsirs and various SAMs, as well as fighters, capable of destroying air targets at distances up to 300 km,” the observer noted.

    “In other words, they’ve launched an ordinary PR campaign designed to improve their military’s fighting spirit, and perhaps someone will succumb to it psychologically,” Krasnoperov said. But the hard “reality” is that “knowing the coordinates, it’s possible to destroy any target at any airfield. The Kinzhal, which flies ten times the speed of sound, is impossible to shoot down…The fact that we have now [reportedly] destroyed two of these planes [at Starokonstantinov, ed.] is only the first shot in the battle.”

    Even the network of underground bunkers being built at airfields in western Ukraine will not save its F-16s over the long term, Krasnoperov assured, pointing out that Russia has targeted and will continue to target such facilities, and can detect their construction from space. “If we know about the bunker, we can deploy our Kinzhals – which can penetrate up to 100 meters into the ground, and nothing will be left of any bunker,” he said.

    Ukraine's Air Force expects to be flying about 20 F-16s by the end of the year, and as many as 79 by 2025, assuming Russia doesn't destroy them first.

    Krasnoperov characterizes the West's approach to F-16 deliveries to Kiev as "nothing personal, just business," pointing out that the NATO donor countries delivering them are either getting rid of their old stocks to make way for new strike aircraft like the F-35, or counting on Washington to provide them with financial compensation. A similar thing happened when NATO's eastern members handed off their Warsaw Pact-era stocks of old MiG and Sukhoi jets to Kiev, with these aircraft decimated over the past two-and-a-half years of fighting.

    "Therefore, the fact that they plan to increase the number of F-16s to Kiev to eighty - please let them go ahead and do so. That's squadrons, or just a drop in the ocean" compared to the NATO client state's needs for continue the proxy war against Russia, Krasnoperov summed up.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240927/ru...120316295.html

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    Storm Shadow Missiles Are the Straw that breaks the Camel’s Back September 26
    by Paul Craig Roberts

    As I prepare for a hit from a major hurricane, the damage and inconvenience of which will be extraordinary, I can’t help but to see the hurricane as almost inconsequential in comparison to NATO’s response to the Russian government’s warning that NATO missiles fired into Russia will receive a military response that can include nuclear weapons.

    Did Washington and NATO withdraw their threats to attack Russia with Storm Shadow missiles? No. The imbeciles announced war mobilization drills.

    This is insanity.

    Why are there no voices speaking against the West’s provocation of nuclear war?

    How can anyone think protecting Ukraine’s artificial borders is worth the massive destruction of Europe and the United States?

    Why are there not tens of millions of people in the streets in Europe, England, and the US?

    This is a level of insouciance and denial of reality that stuns even me.

    The Western world is already deep into collapse. War with Russia will complete the collapse of the Western world. https://drsircus.com/world-news/politics/its-a-sad-day/

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    I have had to interrupt my viewing of the three-people panel discussion you have posted Tintin – regretfully so, because it is of the highest degree of information quality, analytical power, psychological perspicacity and beyond any self-indulgence or mythomania. I plan to watch the rest tomorrow.

    However, what I gather is this: the bitter reality left for us to contemplate, is that the political rationale of the West, however psychotic it may be on small, medium and even large scales, does exist on the hyper-large scale: the leaders of the West or their Deep State movers believe in earnest that the West, or at least their incarnation of it, can survive a nuclear war, and win in the end, when civilisation will have to be rebuilt on the ashes and embers of the Northern hemisphere. They may discover that the survivors on the Southern hemisphere will be comparatively strong enough to ignore them, but then, psychotic as the Western leaders and their movers are, they may just start another round of slaughter and scorched earth warfare: after all, there will always be enough unused nuclear warheads left.

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