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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This was posted 2 hours ago by Chris Martenson. I've NOT watched this yet, but I'd bet everything I own that (a) it's going to be a damning indictment of the US government (in an earlier short video Martenson said that evil was at play here), and (b) the details of the catastrophe he presents on may be graphic, upsetting and disturbing. Expect him to be as angry as he's ever been

    Gripping Tragedy in the Wake of Helene


    I saw a video where a gentleman walked to Chimney rock and talked with people. It was a little reassuring to me. I send my constant gratitude to be a human. We who can rise to the occasions of life with great love.


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    Quote Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
    Thank you all for your posts and for keeping us updated. It truly is Maui and Paradise on steroids. I'm sorry, but we're under attack. Wtf is going on? These 666 agencies are at war with all remaining humans on this planet (sorry, but it's become painfully obvious that some are no longer human).
    Off-topic here, but I have to agree. Something has changed in the corridors of power in the western world over the last several decades, and the change is accelerating. These people hate humans and feel contempt and loathing for ordinary citizens, and are hell-bent on destroying both a large swathe of the human race and also its civilization.

    I think many people sense this now, but still find it hard to (a) believe and come to terms with, and (b) discuss what this means with any kind of clarity.

    My strongest personal guess is that Planet Earth is now a battleground in a non-kinetic, asymmetric war between different groups of non-human entities, some of which are on our side while others are not. The real problem is that this is so extreme and hard to grasp that it's almost impossible to talk about.


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    Here is what I have gathered from people we know.


    $8 million of FEMA money = voted away by Florida legislature.

    Drone operator going in for recon/rescue: get out.

    Box truck full of supplies: get out.

    Firefighters/trained responders: stay out.


    There is, I suppose, some strange form of "approval" going on, if for instance Cajun Navy is allowed to work, and others are barred.

    That means there is something to figure out, but it is not Lithium and it is not Chimney Rock, although other people I know of *do* post things like this, it's just to get your reaction. It's not the government, it's some kid.

    I don't have the details to say about whether it was FEMA who turned those people away, or exactly what happened. The one with the truck lives kind of far from here and appears to represent a "boundary" where there is at least a "reaction" and then out here what I see is "no reaction". I was told they're hiding it in the churches. That is far from obvious.

    I saw our donation hamper back to work, and was told the Food Bank "could decide" to donate it. Here's how that works. If you buy that donation, it goes in the hamper. If you don't, it goes in the hamper. Folks, I bet I could get that thing filled in about three hours, and I could even get a truck which someone will voluntarily drive to the mountains, and you see where we stand.

    I'm not very comfortable with it.

    I had friends from Marshall, Burnsville, and all these unheard-of little places, not that I've kept up with, but in the sense that this has a personal feeling like a dagger, unlike 9/11, which just felt wrong. I guess this is not a job for missiles and bombs so why expect anything of the United States. And it is mega-creepy that there is some kind of barrier so that I see or hear nothing that even resembles the least lick of sympathy. As if they don't even know it happened.

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    Keri Smith, one of the brightest minds around, who escaped the "Social Justice" cult a few years ago, scribed this via X. In my estimation it's a cracker and could live on any one of a half dozen threads here
    "The government is like the mob, except they don’t bother to show up to help when you need them, like they promised they would when they demanded your protection payment - I mean taxes - under threat of force and violence. At least the real mob would protect you like they said they would.

    These guys are supposed to protect our borders (complete dereliction of duty) and provide assistance during emergencies like hurricanes (fat chance). But they’re sending our tax dollars to foreign wars ($175 Billion to Ukraine alone, and counting) and pillaging FEMA for $1.4 Billion to for imported voters - I mean illegal aliens.

    Some racket."
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    If Politico write it, it's likely to be an admission..........

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    Video of colonel Douglas McGregor :

    “Our good countrymen and women are being left to fend for themselves while the government bends over backward for illegal immigrants, criminal gang members, foreign governments, and — of course — lines the pockets of warmongers!”

    As families in North Carolina suffer without food, water, or electricity, Macgregor laid out the harsh reality: “Fort Bragg, now renamed Fort Liberty, is only 300 miles from Asheville, North Carolina, where thousands of Americans are coping with washed-out roads and bridges, power outages, and a desperate need for clean water.”

    Yet, he pointed out, not a single army helicopter has been sent to rescue them. Why? Because those aircraft are busy overseas, leaving Americans in the dust.

    “Too many Americans have been left behind by a negligent federal government for too long,” Macgregor declared. His message to Washington is loud and clear: prioritize Americans NOW.



    https://vigilantnews.com/post/colone...cane-response/

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    New testimonies perfectly damning for the "authorities"...

    It is clear that they want as many victims and to recover as much land as possible...




    https://vigilantnews.com/post/nightm...uch-more-dire/

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    I am receiving daily updates from our Congressman, Chuck Edwards. Yesterday's update on 10/4 was quite informative, so I copied half of it to show everybody more details of what is going on in this area of Western North Carolina. Asheville is in Buncombe County, but many other counties also had serious damage:

    "Over the last week, I have focused my efforts on securing critical resources for Western North Carolina. The Ingles Distribution Center is officially back online following my office’s work to get them a temporary generator, internet connection, and a clean-up crew to make way for tractor trailers delivering and disbursing product. Ingles estimates they are now five to six days ahead of where they otherwise would’ve been without the important resources I listed above. This distribution center is responsible for filling grocery stores across the entire 11th congressional district.

    Directly after the storm hit, I was hearing from county after county that FEMA and the state were not filling their food and water needs quick enough and there was barely any cell service. After trying to work through FEMA and NC Emergency Management with little luck, I demanded the White House immediately get three pallets of water and two pallets of meals, ready to eat (MREs) delivered to each of our seven, hardest hit counties, and 20 pallets of MREs and 20 pallets of water for Buncombe County to hold them over until state resources were finally delivered.

    All 75 pallets were delivered same day. I also demanded temporary cell tower assets be deployed to the six counties with the worst-off communication systems. All six locations also received at least one temporary cell service asset same day with some counties, like Haywood County, seeing more than one asset deployed after my request.

    I’ve delivered seven box trucks to Buncombe County to disburse resources from their central distribution center, secured an FAA operator to help regulate air traffic at Rutherford County Airport, helped the Murphy Fire Department get their assignment number through NC Emergency Management so they could deploy to Henderson County, delivered dozens of truckloads worth of food and water amongst our hardest hit counties, expedited county requests for critical assets, and more. I will continue to support our community in any way that I can.

    We have made it one week by putting one foot in front of the other and working as a team. That is how we will make it through week two, week three and every week thereafter. Disasters like this are once in a lifetime for most people (or once in 1,000 years for Western NC). We are all operating in unknown territory, but together we will chart a resilient and stronger future for our mountains.

    Today is update number seven, with more information to follow in the coming days. Please make sure to read everything and share it with your friends and family.

    Food and Water

    Supplying drinkable water remains a top priority for emergency crews.
    91 water systems are on a boil advisory, a significant reduction from the 142 systems on an advisory as of yesterday, October 3.
    49 treatment plants have reported having no power and 43 systems are out of water.
    All water restoration trends are moving in a positive direction.
    The state of North Carolina has promised 40 trailer loads of water and 20 trailer loads of food daily through at least October 6.
    The Federal Emergency Management Agency has promised 120 truckloads a day of food and water with no specified end date.
    Yesterday, Walmart donated 33 truckloads of food and water to nonprofits across Hendersonville, Arden, Asheville and Weaverville.
    Walmart will also be hosting activities at the following locations:
    Hendersonville, NC Store 1242
    250 Highlands Square Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28792
    Hosting hot meal donations at this location.
    Arden, NC Store 1179
    60 Airport Rd., Arden, NC 28704
    This location will host an associate fuel truck, laundry, feeding station, bathrooms and charging station.
    The Home Depot has partnered with Operation Blessing to deliver truckloads of relief supplies including meals, hygiene kits, water and more, to the following location:
    Asheville, NC Store 3625
    795 Fairview Rd., Asheville, NC 28803
    Resource pick-up locations are listed below by county. As I learn more, I will keep you posted:
    Buncombe County
    Buncombe County has begun water distribution at multiple sites. Each will be available daily from 1:00 -7:00 p.m.:
    Pack Square Park - you MUST bring your own container for this site
    80 Court Plz., Asheville, NC 28801
    William W. Estes Elementary School
    275 Overlook Rd., Asheville, NC 28803
    Sand Hill-Venable Elementary
    154 Sand Hill School Rd., Asheville, NC 28806
    North Windy Ridge Intermediate School
    20 Doan Rd., Weaverville, NC 28787
    Fairview Elementary
    1355 Charlotte Hwy., Fairview, NC 28730
    The following major feeding site is available in Buncombe County, where citizens can access food, water and other basic necessities:
    Biltmore Baptist Church
    35 Clayton Rd., Arden, NC 28704
    Haywood County
    The following locations are providing community members with essential resources such as but not limited to, food, water, cleaning products, baby formula, and pet food, Monday through Fridays:
    Pigeon Community Center
    450 Pigeon St., Waynesville, NC 28786
    Also offering hot meals every day at 2:00 p.m.
    Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.
    Cruso Community Center
    13186 Cruso Rd., Canton, NC 28716
    Daily Hours: 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
    First United Methodist Church
    566 S. Haywood St., Waynesville, NC 28786
    Includes shower access.
    Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
    Maggie Valley Pavilion
    3935 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
    Daily Hours: 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.
    Woodland Baptist Church
    545 Crabtree Rd., Waynesville, NC 28786
    Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
    Bethel Elementary School
    4700 Old River Rd., Canton, NC 28716
    Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
    Jonathan Valley Elementary School
    410 Hall Dr., Waynesville, NC 28786
    Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
    Monday through Friday
    The following location offers hot meals daily:
    Maggie Valley Fire Department
    2901 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
    The following location offers showers daily from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.:
    Calvary Baptist Church
    2701 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
    Henderson County
    Henderson County has stood up Resource Hub locations for water distribution and other supplies as they become available.
    Distribution takes place daily at the following locations:
    Etowah Elementary: 320 Etowah School Rd., Etowah, NC 28729
    Rugby Middle School: 3345 Haywood Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28791
    East Henderson High School: 150 Eagle Pride Dr., East Flat Rock, NC 28726
    North Henderson High School: 35 Fruitland Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28792
    Mills River Town Hall: 124 Town Center Dr., Mills River, NC 28759
    Fletcher Town Hall: 300 Old Cane Creek Rd., Fletcher, NC 28732
    Each family unit will be provided supplies for one day’s meal and water as available.
    Individuals are asked to enter the drive-through and remain in your car unless otherwise instructed by volunteers to ensure an efficient process.
    Madison County
    The following locations are offering food and water distribution in Macon County:
    5580 US-25, Marshall, NC 28753
    225 Carl Eller Rd., Mars Hill, NC 28754
    63 N. Serpentine Ave., Hot Springs, NC 28743
    McDowell County
    McDowell County has established multiple points of distribution that are open daily from 10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m., depending on supply levels.
    Distribution takes place daily at the following locations:
    Hicks Chapel Church
    6008 US 221 N., Marion, NC 28752
    Former TJ’s Discounts
    8153 US 221 N., Marion, NC 28752
    Old Fort Town Hall
    38 Catawba Ave., Marion, NC 28762
    New Manna Baptist Church
    225 E. Court St., Marion, NC 28752
    Solid Rock Free Will Baptist Church
    7860 NC 226 S., Nebo, NC 28761
    Hot meals are also being provided at the following location:
    Grace Community Church
    5182 US 70 W., Marion, NC 28752
    Lunch is served every day from 11:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.
    Dinner is available from 4:00-5:30 p.m.
    Polk County
    The following locations are offering food and water distribution for residents in need:
    Mill Spring/Green Creek Community
    25 International Blvd., Mill Spring, NC 28756
    Columbus Community
    95 Walker St., Columbus, NC 28722
    Saluda Community Bus Parking Lot
    214 E. Main St., Saluda, NC 28773
    Tryon Community
    301 N. Trade St., Tryon, NC 28782
    Sunny View
    86 Sunny View School Rd., Mill Spring, NC 28756
    The Roseland Center
    56 Peake St., Tryon, NC 28782
    Rutherford County
    The following locations are open from 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. for citizens to get food and emergency supplies:
    Thomas Jefferson High School
    2527 US-221A Hwy., Mooresboro, NC 28114
    Florence Baptist Church
    201 S. Broadway St., Forest City, NC 28043
    Rutherford County Health Department
    221 Callahan Koon Rd., Spindale, NC 28160
    Gilkey Church of God
    255 Oak Springs Rd., Rutherfordton, NC 28139
    Parks, Recreation, & Lake Office
    658 Memorial Hwy., Lake Lure, NC 28746
    Lake Lure Baptist Church - also has bathroom and shower stations
    6837 US-74 ALT, Lake Lure, NC 28746
    Ingles at Lake Lure - meals only
    276 NC-9, Lake Lure, NC 28746
    Offers hot meals at 11:30 a.m., 1:30 p.m., 4:30 p.m., and 6:30 p.m.
    Father’s Vineyard - also has shower and charging stations
    724 Oakland Rd., Spindale, NC 28160
    Spencer Baptist Church - water distribution only
    187 N Oak St., Spindale, NC 28160
    United Way of Rutherford County - water distribution and charging stations only
    668 Withrow Rd., Forest City, NC 28043"

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    https://x.com/TheWakeninq/status/1842392679268626768



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    https://x.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1842260808497279212




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    BREAKING: Numerous whistleblowers came forward to my office this week to sound the alarm on FEMA’s severe mismanagement issues, which have left first responders on the ground to assist with Hurricane Helene recovery efforts without deployment orders.

    For context, @FEMA redirected $1.4 BILLION of taxpayer funds over the past two years to illegal aliens due to Border Czar Kamala Harris’ open-border policies.

    @SecMayorkas now says the agency doesn’t “have enough funds” for hurricane season.


    Today, I sent a letter to Mayorkas demanding answers on whether FEMA misappropriated taxpayer funds in the Disaster Relief Fund to be used on non-disaster-relief programs for illegal aliens.

    READ MORE: https://dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ne-Helene.html


    https://x.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1842255263505563770

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    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1842423358727602277



    Wow…

    The MSM are celebrating that rural America is suffering from a natural disaster, because it benefits them in the election.

    The Biden regime have no interest in supplying aid to Americans, because they are hoping more Trump supporters die.

    The establishment want us dead.

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    https://x.com/politico/status/1842328607714127986



    Sorry missed Tintin's coverage of this upthread - adding this

    https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1842266889617330598



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    On his podcast @davidaxelrod says Democrat voters in Asheville, North Carolina are smarter, wealthier and will still show up to vote for Kamala while he thinks Trump voters won’t. This is why Kamala and Biden aren’t helping, they benefit from the disaster:
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    Just received this DM from a woman whose husband has been in Asheville all week on storm duty.

    There must be so many dead bodies. She said Lake Lure has been closed off because search and rescue teams are DREDGING FOR BODIES.

    Even in the midst of chaos, she said OSHA fined a fire department for “capacity violations”…

    This is absurd. How does OSHA have time to behave like a bunch of soulless freaks when people are dying??

    This is so awful.
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    Just another coincidence... Zionists run the USA.

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    Everywhere in western governments now, it’s obvious there is a common denominator - zionist ‘funding’. WAKE UP!!! All disasters, warmongering, bankstering, vile political manipulations are resourced by zionists/globalists. I am so tired that the media cannot even help us as they are all bought and paid for, as is our justice systems, this is pure EVIL.
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    FW: Hurricane Helene update #7 from Congressman Edwards

    (I highlighted some things significant for us, but did not have time to add all the links at this point)


    Dear xxxxxxxxx
    One whole week. It has been one week, seven days, since Hurricane Helene struck and our communities were turned upside down.

    This last week has been trying for everyone involved. More than 1,000 Western North Carolinians have been dislocated to an emergency shelter, as of Thursday evening 107 friends and family members have passed away, and hundreds are still missing. Communities like Chimney Rock have been absolutely decimated and many of our Main Streets don’t look the same. To say the post-hurricane environment has been apocalyptic is an understatement.

    Nonetheless, we must persist.

    Over the last week, I have focused my efforts on securing critical resources for Western North Carolina. The Ingles Distribution Center is officially back online following my office’s work to get them a temporary generator, internet connection, and a clean-up crew to make way for tractor trailers delivering and disbursing product. Ingles estimates they are now five to six days ahead of where they otherwise would’ve been without the important resources I listed above. This distribution center is responsible for filling grocery stores across the entire 11th congressional district.

    Directly after the storm hit, I was hearing from county after county that FEMA and the state were not filling their food and water needs quick enough and there was barely any cell service. After trying to work through FEMA and NC Emergency Management with little luck, I demanded the White House immediately get three pallets of water and two pallets of meals, ready to eat (MREs) delivered to each of our seven, hardest hit counties, and 20 pallets of MREs and 20 pallets of water for Buncombe County to hold them over until state resources were finally delivered.

    All 75 pallets were delivered same day.
    I also demanded temporary cell tower assets be deployed to the six counties with the worst-off communication systems. All six locations also received at least one temporary cell service asset same day with some counties, like Haywood County, seeing more than one asset deployed after my request.

    I’ve delivered seven box trucks to Buncombe County to disburse resources from their central distribution center, secured an FAA operator to help regulate air traffic at Rutherford County Airport, helped the Murphy Fire Department get their assignment number through NC Emergency Management so they could deploy to Henderson County, delivered dozens of truckloads worth of food and water amongst our hardest hit counties, expedited county requests for critical assets, and more. I will continue to support our community in any way that I can.

    We have made it one week by putting one foot in front of the other and working as a team. That is how we will make it through week two, week three and every week thereafter. Disasters like this are once in a lifetime for most people (or once in 1,000 years for Western NC). We are all operating in unknown territory, but together we will chart a resilient and stronger future for our mountains.

    Today is update number seven, with more information to follow in the coming days. Please make sure to read everything and share it with your friends and family.

    Food and Water
    • Supplying drinkable water remains a top priority for emergency crews.
    o 91 water systems are on a boil advisory, a significant reduction from the 142 systems on an advisory as of yesterday, October 3.
    o 49 treatment plants have reported having no power and 43 systems are out of water.
     All water restoration trends are moving in a positive direction.
    • The state of North Carolina has promised 40 trailer loads of water and 20 trailer loads of food daily through at least October 6.
    • The Federal Emergency Management Agency has promised 120 truckloads a day of food and water with no specified end date.
    • Yesterday, Walmart donated 33 truckloads of food and water to nonprofits across Hendersonville, Arden, Asheville and Weaverville.
    o Walmart will also be hosting activities at the following locations:
     Hendersonville, NC Store 1242
     250 Highlands Square Dr., Hendersonville, NC 28792
     Hosting hot meal donations at this location.
     Arden, NC Store 1179
     60 Airport Rd., Arden, NC 28704
     This location will host an associate fuel truck, laundry, feeding station, bathrooms and charging station.
    o The Home Depot has partnered with Operation Blessing to deliver truckloads of relief supplies including meals, hygiene kits, water and more, to the following location:
     Asheville, NC Store 3625
     795 Fairview Rd., Asheville, NC 28803
    o Resource pick-up locations are listed below by county. As I learn more, I will keep you posted:
     Buncombe County
     Buncombe County has begun water distribution at multiple sites. Each will be available daily from 1:00 -7:00 p.m.:
     Pack Square Park - you MUST bring your own container for this site
     80 Court Plz., Asheville, NC 28801
     William W. Estes Elementary School
     275 Overlook Rd., Asheville, NC 28803
     Sand Hill-Venable Elementary
     154 Sand Hill School Rd., Asheville, NC 28806
     North Windy Ridge Intermediate School
     20 Doan Rd., Weaverville, NC 28787
     Fairview Elementary
     1355 Charlotte Hwy., Fairview, NC 28730
     The following major feeding site is available in Buncombe County, where citizens can access food, water and other basic necessities:
     Biltmore Baptist Church
     35 Clayton Rd., Arden, NC 28704
     Haywood County
     The following locations are providing community members with essential resources such as but not limited to, food, water, cleaning products, baby formula, and pet food, Monday through Fridays:
     Pigeon Community Center
     450 Pigeon St., Waynesville, NC 28786
     Also offering hot meals every day at 2:00 p.m.
     Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m.
     Cruso Community Center
     13186 Cruso Rd., Canton, NC 28716
     Daily Hours: 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
     First United Methodist Church
     566 S. Haywood St., Waynesville, NC 28786
     Includes shower access.
     Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
     Maggie Valley Pavilion
     3935 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
     Daily Hours: 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.
     Woodland Baptist Church
     545 Crabtree Rd., Waynesville, NC 28786
     Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
     Bethel Elementary School
     4700 Old River Rd., Canton, NC 28716
     Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
     Jonathan Valley Elementary School
     410 Hall Dr., Waynesville, NC 28786
     Daily Hours: 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.
     Monday through Friday
     The following location offers hot meals daily:
     Maggie Valley Fire Department
     2901 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
     The following location offers showers daily from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.:
     Calvary Baptist Church
     2701 Soco Rd., Maggie Valley, NC 28751
     Henderson County
     Henderson County has stood up Resource Hub locations for water distribution and other supplies as they become available.
     Distribution takes place daily at the following locations:
     Etowah Elementary: 320 Etowah School Rd., Etowah, NC 28729
     Rugby Middle School: 3345 Haywood Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28791
     East Henderson High School: 150 Eagle Pride Dr., East Flat Rock, NC 28726
     North Henderson High School: 35 Fruitland Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28792
     Mills River Town Hall: 124 Town Center Dr., Mills River, NC 28759
     Fletcher Town Hall: 300 Old Cane Creek Rd., Fletcher, NC 28732
     Each family unit will be provided supplies for one day’s meal and water as available.
     Individuals are asked to enter the drive-through and remain in your car unless otherwise instructed by volunteers to ensure an efficient process.
     Madison County
     The following locations are offering food and water distribution in Macon County:
     5580 US-25, Marshall, NC 28753
     225 Carl Eller Rd., Mars Hill, NC 28754
     63 N. Serpentine Ave., Hot Springs, NC 28743
     McDowell County
     McDowell County has established multiple points of distribution that are open daily from 10:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m. and 4:00-6:00 p.m., depending on supply levels.
     Distribution takes place daily at the following locations:
     Hicks Chapel Church
     6008 US 221 N., Marion, NC 28752
     Former TJ’s Discounts
     8153 US 221 N., Marion, NC 28752
     Old Fort Town Hall
     38 Catawba Ave., Marion, NC 28762
     New Manna Baptist Church
     225 E. Court St., Marion, NC 28752
     Solid Rock Free Will Baptist Church
     7860 NC 226 S., Nebo, NC 28761
     Hot meals are also being provided at the following location:
     Grace Community Church
     5182 US 70 W., Marion, NC 28752
     Lunch is served every day from 11:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.
     Dinner is available from 4:00-5:30 p.m.
     Polk County
     The following locations are offering food and water distribution for residents in need:
     Mill Spring/Green Creek Community
     25 International Blvd., Mill Spring, NC 28756
     Columbus Community
     95 Walker St., Columbus, NC 28722
     Saluda Community Bus Parking Lot
     214 E. Main St., Saluda, NC 28773
     Tryon Community
     301 N. Trade St., Tryon, NC 28782
     Sunny View
     86 Sunny View School Rd., Mill Spring, NC 28756
     The Roseland Center
     56 Peake St., Tryon, NC 28782
     Rutherford County
     The following locations are open from 9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. for citizens to get food and emergency supplies:
     Thomas Jefferson High School
     2527 US-221A Hwy., Mooresboro, NC 28114
     Florence Baptist Church
     201 S. Broadway St., Forest City, NC 28043
     Rutherford County Health Department
     221 Callahan Koon Rd., Spindale, NC 28160
     Gilkey Church of God
     255 Oak Springs Rd., Rutherfordton, NC 28139
     Parks, Recreation, & Lake Office
     658 Memorial Hwy., Lake Lure, NC 28746
     Lake Lure Baptist Church - also has bathroom and shower stations
     6837 US-74 ALT, Lake Lure, NC 28746
     Ingles at Lake Lure - meals only
     276 NC-9, Lake Lure, NC 28746
     Offers hot meals at 11:30 a.m., 1:30 p.m., 4:30 p.m., and 6:30 p.m.
     Father’s Vineyard - also has shower and charging stations
     724 Oakland Rd., Spindale, NC 28160
     Spencer Baptist Church - water distribution only
     187 N Oak St., Spindale, NC 28160
     United Way of Rutherford County - water distribution and charging stations only
     668 Withrow Rd., Forest City, NC 28043
    Debris Removal
    • If your home has damages and you need assistance with clean up, please call Crisis Cleanup for access to volunteer organizations that can assist you at 844-965-1386.
    • Additionally, the following counties have resources for where to take debris waste.
    o Haywood
     Household waste will be accepted at the Materials Recovery Facility at 247 Recycle Rd., Clyde and at Convenience Centers at Jonathan Creek, Beaverdam, Bethel, Hazelwood, Mauney Cove, Jones Cove and Highway 110.
     White Oak Landfill has reopened, as of noon on Tuesday, October 1
    o Henderson
     Henderson County Transfer Station will be open September 30 at 7:00 a.m. accepting storm debris with normal fees. A free storm debris site is in the works and will be available soon.
    United States Postal Service
    • Mail delivery operations in the following three-digit ZIP code areas (any ZIP code beginning with these numbers) may experience interruptions:
    o 287
     USPS is attempting to resume delivery operations in the 287 ZIP code area.
    o 288
    o 289
    • Additionally, operations at the facility below remain suspended:
    o Rutherfordton: 130 E. Court St., Rutherfordton, NC 28139
    Pharmacy Access
    • CVS currently has 16 pharmacies that remain closed, including two locations - 522 S. Main St., Hendersonville, NC and 2351 US 70 Hwy., Swannanoa, NC - that are total losses and will not reopen.
    • For individuals able to safely travel to fill a prescription, CVS at the following locations are actively open as of October 2:
    o 324 Long Shoals Rd., Arden, NC 28704
    o 505 Smokey Park Hwy., Asheville, NC 28806
    o 371 Asheville Hwy., Brevard, NC 28712
    o 3450 Hendersonville Rd., Fletcher, NC 28732
    o 1605 Four Seasons Blvd., Hendersonville, NC 28792
    o 2001 Spartanburg Hwy., Hendersonville, NC 28792
    o 111 S Main St., Rutherfordton, NC 28139
    o 773 Russ Ave., Waynesville, NC 28786
    • You can also use this link to locate non-CVS pharmacy locations open to the public by county.
    • How to Acquire a Prescription:
    o If a store is closed, you can still call the number and the pharmacy’s phone lines have been rerouted to a nearby CVS Pharmacy that is open to help patients access their prescriptions.
    o Patients can visit any CVS Pharmacy for assistance with immediate prescription needs.
    Open Urgent Cares
    • The following urgent cares are open and accessible for community members with non-life-threatening illnesses and injuries:
    o Locations open between 8:30 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.:
     Mercy Urgent Care Weaverville
     61 Weaver Blvd., Weaverville, NC 28787
     Mercy Urgent Care West Asheville
     1201 Patton Ave., Asheville, NC 28806
     Mercy Urgent Care Waynesville
     120 Frazier St., Ste. 6, Waynesville, NC 28786
    o Locations open between 9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.:
     Mercy Urgent Care Brevard
     22 Trust Ln., Brevard, NC 28712
    o Locations open between 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m.:
     Mercy Urgent Care Columbus
     140 West Mills St., Columbus, NC 28722
    Resources for Veterans
    • Legionnaires, Sons of the American Legion members and Legion Posts that have been displaced from their primary residence due to damage sustained during Hurricane Helene may be eligible for financial assistance through the American Legion.
    o Legionnaires and Sons of the American Legion members may be eligible for up to $3,000.
    o Legion Posts may be eligible for up to $10,000.
     To learn more or to request assistance, please use this link.
     Applications must be submitted within 90 days of the disaster: Dec. 26, 2024.
    • I will update this section as I become aware of additional resources for veterans.
    • As of Thursday, October 3, power has been restored at the Asheville VA Hospital.
    Power and Gas
    • 201,000 customers remain without power in Western North Carolina.
    o Duke Energy is on track to restore an additional 27,000 customers by Friday evening, October 4
     By Friday evening, 90 percent of all outages will have been restored.
     The remaining 10 percent of outages are in the hardest-hit areas of Western North Carolina.
     Another 69,000 are on track to be restored in the hardest-hit areas by Sunday, October 6.
    o In the areas where catastrophic damage exists, 105,000 customers are without power.
     Duke Energy is working closely with the state on plans to address these areas as quickly as possible.
    o The number of customers seeing their power turn back on each day is slowing, but that is only because Duke Energy has been conducting significant work to repair and bring back online the 360 substations that were damaged or destroyed by Hurricane Helene.
     The substations are the backbone of our energy grid.
     Once restored, service for private homeowners and businesses will rapidly begin to come back online.
    o So far, 95 percent of substations have been restored and significant substation work is continuing today.
    o Power for the Greenwood Rock Quarry has been restored.
     Restoration of the quarry’s power will help NCDOT to address gravel needs for road repairs.
    o For more information on Duke Energy’s power restoration efforts, you can review the following links:
     Outage Map: duke-energy.com/outages
    o Outage Alerts: duke-energy.com/outages/alerts
    o Generator safety: duke-energy.com/outages/generators
    o Power restoration process: duke-energy.com/outages/restoring-your-power
    Roads
    • A “DO NOT DRIVE” message remains in place from the North Carolina Department of Transportation for most of Western North Carolina.
    o Unless it is an emergency, please do not travel to the hardest hit communities.
    o Cherokee, Graham, Clay and Swain counties ARE FULLY OPEN to people who can access them through safe routes.
     Please Note: Clay County is a new addition to the list of fully open counties in Western NC.
     Don’t forget that Western NC’s economy relies on tourism, so another way to assist with hurricane relief is by visiting the North Carolina mountains, where it is safe to do so.
     Please DO NOT try to visit or travel through the areas hardest hit by the storm such as Henderson and Buncombe counties.
    • NCDOT has now reopened more than 130 roads.
    o NCDOT has reopened:
     NC 16 between Catawba and Alexander counties
     NC 226 between McDowell and Mitchell counties
     NC 105 in Watauga and Avery counties
     I-40 East near Old Fort
    o NCDOT is making progress on:
     NC 9 between Buncombe and Henderson counties, along with multiple other major routes in NC-11
    o In addition to repair and debris removal efforts, NCDOT has provided support and helped coordinate relief efforts for many agencies near or in storm-impacted areas.
     As of Thursday, October 3, there has successfully been:
     338 evacuation trips
     1,537 people transported to safety
     523 trips to shelters
     2,076 people transported to the shelters
     All 14 of NCDOT’s Highway Divisions are now helping respond to Hurricane Helene.
     About 1,600 employees from across the state are working both day and night to clear debris and repair roadways.
    • The National Park Service has reopened US 441/Newfound Gap Rd. to allow for access between Tennessee and North Carolina communities.
    o Kuwohi Rd. (formerly Clingmans Dome Rd.) has also reopened.
    • Bat Cave and Gerton communities on US 64/74 in Henderson County were isolated with no access out until October 2.
    o Yesterday, NCDOT was able to open access into the Bat Cave/Gerton area.
    o Food drops are currently being conducted on a clothesline across the river in Gerton.
    • NCDOT has launched a detour map to show motorists how to get around closures on I-26 and I-40 at the Tennessee border.
    o You can access the map here.
    Cell Service
    • Cell service restoration is continuing to see significant improvements.
    o The total number of deployable assets in NC-11 are continuing to increase, reaching more than 70 assets that are on-air or en route amongst service providers in our hardest hit communities.
    o The total number of cell sites that are down has steadily decreased since October 1.
    • Cell service providers have implemented disaster roaming for any phone located in Western North Carolina to maximize phone service for all users.
    o Disaster roaming allows users to connect to any mobile network during a disaster when other networks are down.
     This allows users to access emergency services, such as 911, even when their own network is out.
    o If you have service one moment, but experience a reduction in service the next, try restarting your phone to jumpstart disaster roaming again.
    • AT&T has deployed its Mobile Connectivity Center to the following location:
    o Sam’s Club: 645 Patton Ave., Asheville, NC 28806
     The Mobile Connectivity Center is an air-conditioned mobile unit open to the public, equipped with laptops, charging stations and wi-fi.
     The public can use the center for various needs including contacting your insurance company, filling out paperwork or connecting with loved ones.
     AT&T has also donated $100,000 to the North Carolina Disaster Relief Fund to support Western North Carolinians impacted by Hurricane Helene.
    • A temporary Verizon satellite trailer is located at the Family Justice Center at 35 Woodfin St., offering an opportunity for limited cellular reception within several city blocks of where it is parked.
    • T-Mobile has set up satellite cellular on light trucks (SatCOLTs) in Asheville, providing cellular voice and data along with wi-fi and charging stations at the following locations:
    o Asheville Middle School
     211 S. French Broad Ave., Asheville, NC 28801
    o Dr. Wesley Grant Sr. Southside Community Center
     285 Livingston St., Asheville, NC 28801
    • Additional T-Mobile satellite cell on trucks are located in Hendersonville and at a Tractor Supply Co. in Asheville, with others planned for Mission Hospital in Asheville, Cherokee County Emergency Operations Center in Murphy, and in Cherokee.
    North Carolina National Guard & Department of Defense
    • More than 1,100 North Carolina National Guard soldiers and airmen have been deployed to provide support to Western North Carolina so far.
    o The total number of deployed guardsmen will continue to increase over the coming days.
    • Further, more than 400 vehicles, including 90 high-water vehicles, and 19 helicopters have been deployed to Western NC.
    o Georgia, Virginia, Kentucky and South Carolina have all sent helicopters to assist with aerial initiatives in NC-11.
    • As of the afternoon of October 3, the National Guard has:
    o Rescued more than 1,000 Western North Carolinians, including almost 200 by hoist, and 150 animals.
    o Delivered nearly 1 million lbs. of resources to impacted communities.
    • The National Guard is continuing C-17 transport of supplies to Asheville.
    • Although airspace is limited due to ongoing missions by the National Guard and Department of Defense, a process has been established for private pilots seeking to fly in humanitarian relief to coordinate with local authorities.
    o If you are looking to fly in resources and don’t know where to turn, call my office and we will get you in contact with the right coordinators.
    • On October 2, the Secretary of Defense authorized the movement of up to 1,000 active-duty soldiers, including soldiers from the 82nd Airborne Division from Ft. Liberty (formerly Ft. Bragg).
    o These soldiers have arrived in Western North Carolina and are supporting the delivery of food, water and other critical aid to communities impacted by Hurricane Helene.
    o The Department of Defense has also committed 22 helicopters to assist with search and rescue operations.
     Seven CH-47 Chinook helicopters from Ft. Liberty have already been flying resupply missions for the past two days.
    • Here are a few key phone numbers from the NCNG:
    o HOTLINE: 888-892-1162
    o Emergency management watch: 919-733-3300
    o Donated goods: 919-825-2474
     These lines have very high call volumes. If you do not get through the first try, keep calling.
    Asheville Regional Airport
    • Asheville Regional Airport closed mid-day on Friday, September 27, due to risk of flooding.
    • Commercial flights at Asheville Regional Airport have resumed.
    • If you parked your car in an Asheville Regional Airport lot and could not retrieve the vehicle due to the storm, great news - none of the airport’s lots flooded and all cars are fine.
    o Stay safe and pick up your car when you are able.
    • PLEASE NOTE:
    o No general aviation pilots are allowed to land at Asheville Regional Airport without prior clearance from FEMA to ensure the safety of aircraft and personnel.
    SNAP and Child Nutrition Benefits Flexibility
    • The U.S. Department of Agriculture Food and Nutrition Service has approved Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and Child Nutrition (CN) program flexibilities due to the impacts of Hurricane Helene.
    o SNAP
     North Carolina was granted a waiver for the 10-day reporting requirement for the replacement of food purchased with SNAP benefits lost because of the hurricane.
     This waiver provides additional time beyond the standard 10-day time frame for households to report food losses and receive replacement benefits for food that was destroyed and previously purchased with SNAP benefits.
    o Child Nutrition
     The North Carolina Department of Public Instruction was approved for a waiver pertaining to the child nutrition programs.
     Under the waiver approval, NCDPI’s local program operators may:
     Serve meals in a non-congregate setting
     Adjust the time of meal service
     Allow parent pick-up
     Allow service of meals at school sites
    For NC-11 Medical Providers
    • If you own a medical practice in NC-11 and are experiencing financial hardship due to Hurricane Helene, the North Carolina Medical Society will be reactivating its Financial Recovery Program (FRP) to help you recover and open your doors again.
    o The FRP will be back online to provide much needed assistance soon.
    o More information to follow.
    • The Department of Health and Human Services through the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) has made available:
    o Accelerated payments to Medicare Part A providers affected by Hurricane Helene
    o Advance payments to Medicare Part B suppliers affected by Hurricane Helene
    For Local Government Resource Requests
    • For county leaders: This is a reminder to make sure your Emergency Operation Center has submitted the request for gasoline, food, water, cell service deployables, etc. with North Carolina Emergency Management to have your request processed and resources delivered.
    o My office stands ready to assist with checking the status of your request if the county or municipality has not heard back from NC Emergency Management within 24 hours.
    For Individual Assistance through FEMA
    North Carolina received a Major Disaster Declaration for the following counties: Buncombe, Clay, Haywood, Henderson, Jackson, Macon, Madison, McDowell, Polk, Rutherford, Transylvania and Yancey counties and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians.
    People with damage to their homes or personal property who live in one of the above-listed counties should apply for Individual Assistance through FEMA, which may include upfront funds to help with essential items like food, water, baby formula and other emergency supplies.
    • Funds may also be available to repair storm-related damage to homes and personal property, as well as assistance to find a temporary place to stay.
    Individual Assistance provides financial aid and services to eligible individuals and households that have been affected by a disaster to assist with the recovery process. Individuals can officially begin applying for Individual Assistance online at www.DisasterAssistance.gov, or by calling the application phone number at 1-800-621-3362 (TTY: 800-462-7585) between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. EST.
    • To date, more than 10,000 survivors have registered with FEMA for Individual Assistance.
    To Connect with a Loved One
    • Residents trying to connect with family members may call NC 211 (or 1-888-892-1162 if calling from out-of-state) to report missing loved ones or request a welfare check.
    • People in the impacted areas can indicate that they are safe by reporting themselves safe through Red Cross Reunification by calling 1-800-RED-CROSS (1-800-733-2767).
    o Please only use 911 for life-threatening emergencies so the lines remain open for critical situations.
    • If you are still trying to locate a friend or family member, please complete this form to notify local officials of their missing status.
    o The form was created by Buncombe County but information is being shared amongst all counties.
    o Regardless of which county your loved one was last known to be in, you can still submit the form.
     Buncombe County will share the information with the appropriate officials to initiate search and rescue efforts.
    Resources for Utility & Other Status Updates
    For information on the status of utilities, debris sites, etc., we want to share the following resources. As communications are restored and more information becomes available, these sites will continue to be updated.
    • Drinking Water Systems: Public Water Supply Situation Report Tracking
    • Debris Disposal Sites: Active Temporary Debris Disposal Sites
    • NCDEQ Situation Report Tracking System
    • NCDPS Hurricane Helene - Storm Information
    • NCDPS County Emergency Management Agencies
    • How to Apply for FEMA Assistance After Hurricane Helene
    Free Legal Assistance
    • Legal Aid of North Carolina stands ready to provide free advice and legal counsel regarding natural disaster needs, including legal representation if necessary, including for civil legal issues involving:
    o Filing FEMA claims and appeals (a process which can be overwhelmingly bureaucratic and burdensome)
    o Replacement of lost or destroyed legal and government documents, including driver’s licenses and identification cards
    o Medical and insurance claims
    o Home repair contracts
    o Utility disputes related to restoration of services
    o Consumer protection issues like construction fraud, price-gouging on repairs and identity theft
    o Housing issues such as unlawful eviction and foreclosures
    o Bankruptcy
    o Probate and clearing title for survivors living in generational homes without a clear title
    o Family law cases and children in need of services (unfortunately, domestic violence tends to rise following a natural disaster)
    • If you need civil legal assistance, please contact Legal Aid of North Carolina via the following toll-free hotline:
    o (866) 219-LANC or (866) 219-5262
     The hotline is available from:
     8:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m., Monday through Friday; and 5:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on Monday and Thursdays.
     Constituents can also apply online at legalaidnc.org/get-help/ between 1:00-4:30 p.m., Monday - Friday.
    IRS Guidance for Taxpayers Impacted by Hurricane Helene
    • Extension of certain tax filing deadlines:
    o IRS has extended various filing deadlines for taxpayers in impacted areas, including 2024 individual/business returns, certain quarterly estimated income tax payments, and certain payroll/excise taxes.
     Click here for the full list of extensions and respective dates
     Click here for more information from the IRS on disaster assistance
    o Tax relief for qualified payments, disaster-related losses:
     IRS released provided guidance to taxpayers on how to address disaster-related losses in their 2024 tax return, as well as providing guidance on how qualified disaster relief payments - like government assistance payments - are generally excluded from gross income.
     Click here for a general walkthrough of these policies (under header “Additional tax relief”)
     Click here for more information on tax treatment of disaster-related losses
     Click here for more information on tax treatment of qualified disaster relief payments
    Shelters
    • For those unable to evacuate to a safe location or in need of a place to go, the following shelters are currently open and available as of October 3:
    o Buncombe
     A-B Technical Community College
     340 Victoria Rd., Asheville, NC 28801
     Gold’s Gym
     801 Fairview Rd, Asheville, NC 28803
     WNC Agricultural Center
     1301 Fanning Bridge Rd., Fletcher, NC 28732
    o Haywood
     Haywood County Government Armory
     285 Armory Dr., Clyde, NC 28781
    o Henderson
     Edneyville Elementary School
     2875 Pace Rd., Hendersonville, NC 28792
     Henderson County Recreation Center
     708 S. Grove St., Hendersonville, NC 28792
    o McDowell
     Glenwood Baptist Church
     1550 Glenwood Baptist Church Rd., Marion, NC 29640
     YMCA of Western North Carolina
     348 Grace Corpening Dr., Marion, NC 28752
    o Polk
     Polk County High School
     1681 NC 108 Hwy. E., Columbus, NC 28722
    o Rutherford
     Rutherfordton/Spindale Central High School
     641 US 221 Hwy. N., Rutherfordton, NC 28139
    o Transylvania
     Transylvania Parks & Rec
     1078 Ecusta Rd., Brevard, NC 28712
    o Yancey
     Cane River Middle School
     1128 Cane River School Rd., Burnsville, NC 28714
     Mountain Heritage High School
     333 Mountain Heritage High School Rd., Burnsville, NC 28714

    With my warmest regards,


    Chuck Edwards
    Member of Congress
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    From CIC Trumps X account.





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    He's saying there's no loads going anywhere near Asheville, NC.

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    Quote (SQAUK) — A truck driver and YouTuber who goes by the handle of Baby Lion Hotshot says that no loads are on the board and that none are scheduled to go within 125 miles of Ashville, North Carolina, raising many questions.

    This is profoundly concerning following reports out of the region, which confirm that many people and animals still need help after biblical-level flooding ravaged several states.

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    I am starting to suspect that not all of these reports are accurate, and some may even be disinfo to arouse anger and dispair in folks.

    update: watched above video and not claiming that one falls in this category.

    Concerning this claim, I have yet to see any evidence put forth to justify believing Trump has anything to do with this il Donaldo Trumpo parody account.

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I am starting to suspect that not all of these reports are accurate, and some may even be disinfo to arouse anger and dispair in folks.

    update: watched above video and not claiming that one falls in this category.

    Concerning this claim, I have yet to see any evidence put forth to justify believing Trump has anything to do with this il Donaldo Trumpo parody account.

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    From CIC Trumps X account.
    I have previously posted a twit on this X account where CIC Trump states this is his account, go look it up.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1627408
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