Posted by shaberon
(here)
Here is an argument against what I said in the
personal opinion of former IRGC chief Mohsen Rezaei:
He pointed out that the criminal Zionist regime is the biggest spy in the world.
Elsewhere in his remarks, Rezaei pointed to the crimes committed by the Zionist regime in Palestine and Lebanon and stressed that if the criminal Zionist regime is not stopped, it will attack Saudi Arabia and Iraq in the next places.
They will? I mean, I don't know. I didn't think that was a tangible goal; but they are guilty of being Arabs. Perhaps they are in more danger than I am aware of. At the moment, this is not a knee-jerk reaction, since apparently this tosses you into the death wish of the Zionists. If he's willing to say this in the Friday prayers, and, they don't throw shoes, there may be something to it.
This is what's
actually happening:
The purpose of holding this exercise is to consolidate sustainable collective security and its foundations in the region, to expand multilateral cooperation among participating countries, and also to show the good will and ability of these countries in line with the joint support for peace and friendship and maritime security.
The Russian and Omani flotilla were welcomed by the helicopters and vessels of the army and navy of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps while entering the territorial waters of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Also, representatives of countries from Russia, Saudi Arabia, Thailand, Pakistan, Qatar, Oman, Bangladesh and India, who are observing members of the joint naval exercises of IONS 2024 and entered Bandar Abbas International Airport after arriving at the territorial waters of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Out of all those, Oman has been partnered with "Iranians" since before recorded time. Most of that was handled by coastal trawlers, that is, the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea were navigated by going up and down both sides, rather than crossing them. And it is precisely Oman that in the 1,200-1,300 B. C. E. range, that we find large stone anchors matching ones found in India, which is what we would suggest is found in the Bible as "ships of Tarshish".
This dovetails into our "Semitic problem". There was resistance against making "genealogy from Ishmael", and in this case, the Arabic wrangling is considered to be
far worse than Hebrew, which as we have shown, is already bent.
I wouldn't put my neck out to swear there was a "Yarab" person, however, some type of expansion from Yemen definitely matches physical findings.
The most precise way we can form a knowledge base is when we can go into an archaeological layer and carbon-date something, then we can cross-reference human, animal, and plant remains, and we get a pretty good timing that resolves issues of new versus old. It becomes easier to tell when something started or changed. And from doing this, it is easy to see that most of the human stories or histories we have been given are just plain wrong.
With respect to the Arabs or Semites, then we would be dealing with genetics that were not even identified until around
2004.
I'm not much of a biologist, but, for these purposes, it is telling to witness the life of certain rare lines such as
U9:
Haplogroup U9 is a rare clade found stretching from Europe to India. It is found in Ethiopia, Yemen, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, India, Austria, England, Hungary. Haplogroup U is an Indo-European haplogroup. Haplogroups U4 and U9 are sister clades.
Haplogroups U9 and U4 share two common mutations at the root of their phylogeny. It is interesting that, in Pakistan, U9 occurs frequently only among the so-called “negroid Makrani” population. In this particular population, lineages specific to sub-Saharan Africans occur as frequently as 39%
Interestingly, the U9 mtDNA that we found in Andhra Pradesh, together with an Ethiopian mtDNA, defines the new U9a sub-group, thus confirming the ancient genetic links between East Africa, Southwest Asia and India.
The European clade U2e and the rare clade U9 could have reached the Arabian Peninsula from northern areas...
That is what is said, considering most of these samples are taken from living populations.
The last bit is correct, the "negroid Makrani" and the "burnt face Ethiopian" turn out to be of Siberian or Turanian descent.
Naturally, they mix in Yemen as well.
What this represents is movement south along the Pamir Highway that has an eastern branch into India, and a western branch that crosses the Arabian Peninsula into East Africa. It's not Iranian.
From a corresponding paper looking into the physical and genetic background of
Ethiopia and Semitic:
Obsidian-trading links between coastal East Africa and Arabia can be traced back to the 7th millennium b.c., whereas the beginning of agriculture in Ethiopia is usually attributed to increasing contacts with Egypt and the Near East, from the middle of the 5th millennium b.c. Records concerning the trade of myrrh between Egypt and Ethiopia, along the Red Sea coast, go back to the 3rd millennium b.c. The Horn of Africa may have been the major prehistoric entry point of the African zebu cattle from the southern Arabian peninsula (Hanotte et al. 2002). In the late 2nd and early 1st millennium b.c., the eastern part of the Tigray plateau was included in the Tihama cultural complex, spread widely along both the African and Arabian coasts of the Red Sea (Munro-Hay 1991). Later, in the mid-1st millennium b.c., the southern Arabian immigrants, or Sabaens, appeared in Ethiopia. These were military or trading colonists who maintained contact with their country of origin for centuries. The Semitic-speaking Aksumites, or Habash (Abyssinians), had their capital city, Aksum, in the western part of the province of Tigray.
That is of course the Indian Zebu which is exported to Africa, where it has descendants, that can be determined to have their own unique sub-family that "mutated" or split off around Chad in ca. 1,000 B. C. E..
Without having any reference to "Semitic" or "Arabic", it is correct to say that Sabians, Ethiopians, and Indians share a common ancestry from beyond the Pamirs, or "Turan" or that which is entirely outside of the Iranian sphere. In most places, this U9 group mixes in to the population, with its most dominant appearance in the Makrani along the west Pakistan coast.
That's what goes "in to" the era of Solomon. What comes "out from" that does not usually seem to be well-represented, especially from the strange fascination on "genealogy". If I wanted to look at something that was more Sabian, less corrupted by politics, while being Semitic, and even Israeli, it would be Mandeanism. Or, only slightly differently, the Druze.
Back to why modern Israelis may hate Arabs, the Josef Goebbels in me wants to say "It's easy. You tell them to". I'm going to guess that if we look to the first aggressive moves, out of Irgun and similar "armed gangs", it is starting more because "someone is in the way". Let's see. If you're there because your grandparents were in Ukraine, why do you hate Arabs? You're taught to. Isn't this how it worked in Ukraine, before our eyes? Why would a German Jew suddenly hate Arabs? Wouldn't this be contradictory to their philanthropic and intellectual pretexts? You need a bit of time for these potentially reasonable people to die off so no one remembers why this is wrong.
What they are saying is largely based in the fallacy of taking a version of known events and categorically switching it to the pre-Solomonic era, which is untenable.
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