Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

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https://x.com/clashreport/status/1850103316887322743

https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1850041355470328007

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https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1849857497567506898

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https://x.com/MoonofA/status/1849735416653508900

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Jaak (here)
He should add Saudi-Arabia in there also...
New fatwa: There is no difference between Zionists and Jordanians & Egyptians!

Grand Mufti of Libya Sheikh Al-Sadiq Al-Ghariani:

“The people have not done what they should, and their movements are weak. The people are not excused and it is their duty to storm the borders. Egyptians and Jordanians guard the borders of Israel, and there is no difference between them and the Zionists, who are implementing a plan to control the lands of Muslims. The rulers who rejoice in the massacres in Gaza will soon face their turn.”


https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status...67053629571282

Thanks Jaak, interesting. The Mufti pointed out the religious duty of every Muslim and hence the sin of the guards at the borders between Egypt or Jordan and the (anti-Muslim) Zionist Antisemitic Colony. But he lays the guilt of a quite larger sin on the shoulders of the rulers. It interestingly leaves open whether the relative clause (“who rejoice in the massacres in Gaza”) has a restrictive meaning (i.e. "only the rulers who rejoice...”) or a descriptive meaning (i.e. “the rulers, who by definition (would) rejoice in the massacres of Gaza”). Sloppy spelling does not allow to make that distinction in Arabic, as it would not either in English or French.

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1849857497567506898

من يوقف حقدً أسود : man yūqifu hiqdan aswad..who stops the black hatred?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
It might be way too early to post anything like this. But all the news agencies, including RT and Al Jazeera, are working really hard to try to find anything at all to report, apart from that nothing much seems to have happened.

Based on the currently available information, Daniel Davis agrees. Most of what he summarizes and believes is stated in the first few minutes of the livestream.

Israel Strikes Iran: Precise but FEEBLE

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OxZ8dM_mz5M

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
BREAKING:

Israeli officer Cpt. Bezalel Vieberman from Givati’s Special Operations Unit, now active in Jabalia refugee camp, posted a picture of himself near abducted Palestinians:

“We have become the pursuers… GAZA WILL BE LEFT A GRAVEYARD”

Their fate is unknow.—Source:
@ytirawi
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850221557735428575

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https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850212112187998689

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https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850196707956408523

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Text:
Thousands of displaced people from northern Gaza, who lost their homes, are now living in tents along roads and streets. After being bombed out of shelters, they have nothing but fabric tents and no access to food, water, or basic necessities.

Their most urgent plea is for water—will anyone respond?

Credit:
@translatingpal

https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850215173816029441

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https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850216957879984341

[Ravenlocke]

Text:
BREAKING: First operation by a new resistance group in Saudi Arabia!

“In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate

{ “Fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands, and He will disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the hearts of a believing people.” }

With great pride and honor, the Islamic Resistance in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques announces the launch of its first jihadist operation, targeting a vital location in occupied Palestine today, Friday, October 25, 2024, using drones, in support of the resistance in Palestine and Lebanon.

This operation, launched by the Islamic Resistance from the Land of the Two Holy Mosques, is a reflection of the living will of the people of the Arabian Peninsula. It will be followed by a variety of other operations against the Zionist occupation.

We affirm that this jihadist contribution alongside the front of truth in combating Israeli aggression during these sensitive historical circumstances confirms the identity of our noble and honorable resistance and reaffirms its struggle for justice and righteousness. It belongs, in spirit, mind, and sacrifice, to the resisting and dignified nation.

We announce that the Islamic Resistance in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques will continue its jihadist efforts in support of our resisting people in Palestine and Lebanon, and we will not stop until the Zionist aggression against Gaza and Lebanon ceases.

Islamic Resistance in the Land of the Two Holy Mosques
Friday, 22nd Rabi’ al-Thani 1446 AH”


https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850198913686356329

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Iran Absorbs Strike, Limits Harm, Offers Off-Ramp;
Ukr South Donbass Disaster;
Rus Advance, Ukr Flee

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=h_gnz2MV5Zo

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https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1850235212665364991

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
Text:
BREAKING:

Israeli officer Cpt. Bezalel Vieberman from Givati’s Special Operations Unit, now active in Jabalia refugee camp, posted a picture of himself near abducted Palestinians:

“We have become the pursuers… GAZA WILL BE LEFT A GRAVEYARD”

Their fate is unknow.—Source:
@ytirawi
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1850221557735428575

There is something infantile to serial killers. If only the idea that you can quickly do something cruel when the Divine has to go for a pee.

It strikes one when one reads the Qur’an — how Muhammad, or the archangel Gabriel, or God Himself insists repeatedly, tirelessly that everything will be noticed by, that nothing will escape the attention of the Eternal.

[Jaak]

Watching it live right now from this guys stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/agendafreetv
So far has been 3 or 4 large explosions.
Seems only pro-zionists are allowed in that chat...

[Ravenlocke]

Text:

After the Israeli military withdrew from Kemal Adwan Hospital, the hospital director, Dr. Hossam Abu Safiya, was released and returned to the hospital. However, upon his arrival, he was met with the lifeless body of his son, who had been executed by Israeli soldiers.

When the Israeli forces occupied the hospital, Dr. Abu Safiya, following orders, evacuated the facility with other doctors, wearing his white coat. Despite this compliance, the Israeli military killed his son. The grieving father bid farewell to his son in tears.

Currently, over 100 injured people are waiting in the hospital without any medical assistance. Around 30 doctors who were on duty have been detained by the Israeli military, leaving only Dr. Safiya and one staff member at the facility.

The Gaza Health Administration has called for international intervention to evacuate the injured for medical care and treatment at another hospital.

https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1850306054120477061

[shaberon]

So busy. Today saw the highest number of Hezbollah operations -- 48 -- followed by suggestions to evacuate 25 Zionist colonies.


First let's let them tell this Hebrew joke:


The Israelis launched a lot of missiles -- all from maximum stand-off distance.

- Iran put up a LOT of air defense missiles.

- There are no firm reports nor video evidence (so far) of big missile strikes on any significant Iranian targets.

- The Iranians say they intercepted most of the attacking missiles, but admit some got through.

- All the usual purveyors of #EmpirePropaganda are claiming Israel crushed Iranian air defenses and devastated their intended targets.

Dan Cohen, US-based journalist and filmmaker, underlined “Israeli propaganda” trying to sell “the (Israeli) attack as a huge success.”

“Israeli strikes on Iran apparently failed to cause any significant damage, but Israeli propaganda is desperate to sell the attack as a huge success. This pathetic display is how they’re trying to save face after getting wrecked in Lebanon this week."



Now let's learn everything.


This is closer to the answer of where the current use of "Semitic" comes from.

Although "Semitic language family" is a modern designation, the way it comes up is quite pivotal.

These guys are the founders, I think, of everything I am doing. "Semitic languages" was coined and then popularized by Schlosser and Eichorn; usually, this represnts an academic discussion, followed by some kind of publication, which in this case is:


...a paper in 1795 called Semitische Sprachen



Allright. Let's see if this hypothesis may be favorable to anyone. It is not. In fact, probably the first known attempt at a cohesive "World History" along with the reversal of Euro-centrism was uttered by von Schlozer:

Since Schlözer opposed a strictly European perspective, the scope was the entire mankind. Moreover, he included all classes of society and social and cultural developments. The development of glass by the Phoenicians and the introduction of potatoes in Europe were more important than the names of the Chinese or German emperors.

The central topic was development and the influence of historical events on today.

Schlözer's most important innovation, however, was his suggestion to count backwards from the birth of Jesus. An incentive for this was the growing disbelief of the biblical Creation and the then generally acknowledged creation date of 3987 BC. First speculations that the Sun and the Earth were perhaps created tens of thousands of years ago emerged in the 18th century. Schlözer's suggestion offered room for further theories about the creation of the Earth. Schlözer mentioned in a footnote that he adopted this idea from foreign historians, but did not reveal them. Whoever they were, Schlözer was the one to introduce this novel chronology into the European history, an act of tremendous importance for it was the fundamental for all ancient history. According to the philosopher Hannah Arendt, this new method enabled man to look back "into an indefinite past to which one can add at will and into which we can inquire further as it stretches ahead". August Ludwig von Schlözer was instrumental in abandoning Creation beliefs of our collective consciousness, more than anybody else.

...he produced a strong impression. This periodical criticised the German government harshly, and was widely read with up to 4400 subscribers. It was first in German to publish the declaration of human rights in 1791. In 1793, the government prohibited the publication of the Staats-Anzeigen.

Schlözer was a versatile historian giving lectures on a range of issues including Oliver Cromwell, the Dutch revolution, banks, the French Revolution (already in 1790), luxury, and the history of Germans in Romania, while continuing publishing on Russian history.

He was given honorary positions by Catherine the Great and the Swedish Empire.

He basically just focused Zionism and its grip on the United Kingdom along with finance.


Somewhat less glamorous was his colleague Eichorn:

His investigations led him to the conclusion that "most of the writings of the Hebrews have passed through several hands." He took for granted that all the supernatural events related in the Old and New Testaments were explicable on natural principles. He sought to judge them from the standpoint of the ancient world, and to account for them by the superstitious beliefs which were then generally in vogue. He did not perceive in the biblical books any religious ideas of much importance for modern times; they interested him merely historically and for the light they cast upon antiquity.

He regarded many books of the Old Testament as spurious, questioned the genuineness of the First and Second letters of Peter and the Epistle of Jude, denied the Pauline authorship of the First and Second letters to Timothy and to Titus. He suggested that the canonical gospels were based upon various translations and editions of a primary Aramaic gospel, but did not appreciate as sufficiently as David Strauss and the Tübingen critics the difficulties which a natural theory has to surmount, nor did he support his conclusions by such elaborate discussions as they deemed necessary. He challenged the Augustinian hypothesis solution to the synoptic problem and proposed an original gospel hypothesis (1804) which argued that there was a lost Aramaic original gospel that each of the Synoptic evangelists had in a different form.

Tip of the iceberg.

The expression "Semitic languages" is based in the mindset that much of the Old Testament is inaccurate, and, the proper criticism of Pauline authorship says everything about the same for the New Testament.

I may be the same as them. A person of European descent who decides to look outside of that for explanations, and coming to the same conclusion about the Testaments.

"Semitic" is named for someone I'm not sure they "believe" in, and is wide open for investigation, not a form of nationalism.

These people were probably in the first generation where you could even put your name on such work; you would have been thrown in jail or killed. So these are like private ideas manifesting in public form. That makes them "founders" of something, and, if not all the ideas, at least some of it. It's like the public face of the Bavarian Illuminati, which Thomas Jefferson claimed would have "no need for secrecy" in the United States.

Similarly, you could be pretty sure that Empress Catherine was understanding of at least some of this, and so the context continues in modern Russia. These guys were followers of Montesqieu, which would include Catherine and Jefferson.

That's extraordinary. The expression "Semitic" is anti-Zionist in intent, before that had any name for itself, at the level of ideas.

I don't know what it may have previously meant to Genesis followers, but it happens to be meaningful in Aramaic. Chances are, it means what that guy just said, because it is emanatory and periodically arises in the world.

What a convenient set of facts! Who made this for me?

If I had to guess, I would say he had probably come across the Zoroastrian Bundeshihn as an unrevealed foreign inspiration.

Perhaps they could be credited with "asking the right questions". I think we are mostly just dealing with the "same questions".


The difference is the volume of material that is available to us.

The weakness in the presentations I have seen so far is why Aramaic and Arabian share traits with "Proto-Semitic", but are eclipsed, as if later evolutions. They lack their own writings of any significant age. However, the Semitic language family appears to be in the region of "develop cuneiform for the way you speak".


Aramaic script is not developed until the later period; but what of its language? If I understand a partial analysis of writing, the first known adaptation of Sumerian cuneiform to be used in another language was Ebla, which was destroyed around 2,250 B. C. E., which mentions "Aram" and also records:

"Canaanites", "Ugarit", and "Lebanon"


Next, Ugarit develops the master script:

Unique among the Ugarit texts are the earliest known abecedaries, lists of letters in alphabetic cuneiform, where not only the canonical order of the later Phoenician script is evidenced, but also the traditional names for letters of the alphabet.

Other tablets found in the same location were written in other cuneiform languages (Sumerian, Hurrian, and Akkadian), as well as Egyptian and Luwian hieroglyphs, and Cypro-Minoan.

It is the oldest example of the family of West Semitic scripts such as the Phoenician, Paleo-Hebrew, and Aramaic alphabets (including the Hebrew alphabet).

Clay tablets written in Ugaritic provide the earliest evidence of both the Levantine ordering of the alphabet, which gave rise to the alphabetic order of the Hebrew, Greek, and Latin alphabets; and the South Semitic order, which gave rise to the order of the Ge'ez script. The script was written from left to right.

Other languages (particularly Hurrian) were occasionally written in the Ugarit area, although not elsewhere.

And it was destroyed by around 1,190 B. C. E.. In both cases, these are massive libraries that have a definite endpoint. That makes them accurate "markers". I have noticed that Aramaic and Arabian are not granted much assumption of existence before their scripts. More "important" languages are often described as being centuries old prior to the writings. So far I am observing that "Hebrew" and "Arab" don't have any outside references until post-Ugarit, while "Aram" and "Canaan" do. The Ugaritic language itself, has vanished, which would be concomitant with having one's home ravaged by forces.

It could be that "Aramaic Shem" is real or is doing this. It simply works out that "Semitic study" is anti-Zionist by nature. I had no idea.

[Michel Leclerc]

Posted by shaberon (here)

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It could be that "Aramaic Shem" is real or is doing this. It simply works out that "Semitic study" is anti-Zionist by nature. I had no idea.

Glad you are doing some research in the Semitology field, Shaberon.

As often, your intellectual diary notes defy my understanding of what you may mean – or, to the extent that I understand them, are – how shall I put it – incomplete?

(By the way, it is not Bundeshihn – which looks like publicity for the German railways – but Bundahishn.)

Before I make one last remark – I strongly suggest that we evacuate this linguistic discussion from this thread (I find it almost obscene to take up place here for that, amidst the most soul-tearing reports about victims of “black hatred”). We could expose our nascent shared insights on Semitic languages on a thread called "Semitic languages” for instance. If that interests you, I will gladly leave the initiative to create one to you.

My remark concerns your three sentences put in blue above. Could you maybe explain then in a concise posting what idea you have obtained by now?

"Aramaic Shem" is real or is doing this. Doing what...?

It simply works out that "Semitic study" is anti-Zionist by nature. Do you mean that genuine science (which "Semitic study”, or Semitology exemplifies), is anti-“proto-Christian Zionist” by nature?

I am asking this because restating the obvious fact that the “scientific” underpinnings of the political ideology that Zionism is are "historical science fiction” may have a function convincing some readers who prefer to stick to that political creed, and hence restating that insight does belong to this thread.

Beyond that, let us move this to another thread.

[Bill Ryan]

A most interesting (and highly plausible) suggestion about what really happened to Israel's surprisingly mild strike against Iran.

The text:

I suspect that what actually happened in Iran last night was an aborted attack. The IAF's initial SEAD [Strike Enemy Air Defense] strikes with long-range missiles, meant to pave the way for what was probably an F-35 strike package with conventional bombs, clearly failed. Thus they scrubbed the strike.

Claims of damage in Iran beyond an apparent MIM-23 HAWK site in the Tehran area (which I suspect burned down due to a launch accident with very old missiles rather than enemy action) are very speculative at this point. Apparently four Iranian soldiers were killed during the attack, but the circumstances of their deaths - or, indeed, whether they were even in Iran or instead stationed in Syria, which was also hit last night - are unclear at this time.

BrOSINT [urban slang for the community of internet commenters] is frantically searching around for anything that can be passed off as damage right now - the below pictures are claimed as destroyed buildings at an Iranian military facility when it rather looks to me like the Iranians put up some camouflage nets after the attack and brOSINT is grasping at straws, similarly to the claimed "damaged radar" from April.

In general this attack was extremely underwhelming, particularly given that the Israeli military has announced that (1) this was in fact the big retaliatory strike; and (2) they've finished the operation. It's difficult to escape the impression that this was either a monumental and very uncharacteristic flinch on Netanyahu's part or that the Israelis simply failed last night.

https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1850311286162088353

[Sirus]

NYT:

\- Israel targeted air defense systems that were set up to protect oil refineries and 'important petrochemical installations'

\- Israel also targeted air defense systems that protect offshore gas rigs and a 'significant port', according to three Iranian sources

\- The sources also said that an S300 anti air system that was placed next to the Imam Khomeini airport in Tehran was targeted, the system according to them was set up to protect the airport itself and parts of Tehran.

\- The three Iranian sources told the New York Times that the destruction of air defense systems by Israel in the attack on that night "caused deep concern in Iran." This is because vital energy and economic centers are now exposed to future attacks if the mutual reactions between Israel and Iran continue.

\- According to Hamid Hosseini, an expert on Iran's oil and gas industry and a member of the Iran-Iraq Chamber of Commerce, "Israel is sending us a clear message." He explained that "this could have very serious economic consequences for Iran. And now that we understand the risk, we must act wisely and not continue the tensions."

\- Also targeted in the attacks (not mentioned in the NYT article) are apparently machines that are used to create solid rocket propellant for ballistic missiles, which are extremely expensive and vital for ballistic missile production. The Iranian sources who spoke to NYT did admit that a missile production and testing site near Tehran was targeted and hit, according to them it was 'targeted by drones' and that only a single drone reached its' target, and that the rest were shot down.

[Sirus]

It's still early days. It wasn't that long ago that pagers were exploding left, right and centre in the axis's pockets without warning.