Selling Zionism - the modern era

[Dennis Leahy]

There is another thread about how Zionism got injected into Christianity that explores that aspect of the selling of Zionism, but I thought we needed a thread to discuss the current Zionist propaganda.


Here's a short video exploring Israel's Zionist propaganda changing over time, and currently using sociopaths in bikinis to make Zionism sexy: https://www.bitchute.com/video/a2RndxZflwtL An appropriate title: IDF Sex Programming (MKULTRA 3.0)

[Sirus]

What definition and type of Zionism are we discussing here Dennis?

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Sirus (here)
What definition and type of Zionism are we discussing here Dennis?

I don't understand your question, Sirus. Definition and type? This isn't theoretical, it's about actual current Zionism propaganda. I hope this isn't an attempt to obfuscate or dismiss the actual nature of Zionism and Zionist propaganda.


Actually, if you want to start a thread or join a thread that defines Zionism or goes through the early history of Zionism, your question of "definition and type" might be welcomed. Here, I see it as deflecting the obvious, as the title of this thread is "Selling Zionism - the modern era." May I ask, do you consider yourself to be Zionist or accept Zionist precepts? If you are Jewish, or Israeli, please don't try to defend Judaism or Israeli citizenship support by defending Zionism. The Israeli Jews have been hijacked by Zionism - Zionism is NOT about Judaism or Jews.

[Tintin]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
The Israeli Jews have been hijacked by Zionism - Zionism is NOT about Judaism or Jews.

Yup

Reposting this from earlier this week:

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Copying over from the British Isles turmoil thread:
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"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie."

- Revelations 3:9

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Prof. Haim Bresheeth - Jewish Network for Palestine: speech at Swiss Cottage, London, November 1st, 2024

It's a very powerful anti-Zionist speech, about 7 minutes in length

Perhaps a lot more importantly he stresses what many of us here have come to understand over some considerable time: the colonisation of the American, British and European minds by Zionism, and the further colonisation of Judaism. The difference between Jews and Zionists couldn't be more clearly stated here. This is what all reasonable and enlightened folk are up against and Haim articulates it all brilliantly.

I'll post this up again just in case there are any folks who still haven't figured this out yet:

Rabbi Chaim Brisker, one of the greatest rabbis a century ago, once said: “There have been many heretical groups in Jewish history, but Zionism is the worst. The Torah teaches Jews to be a moderate and peaceful people in the world. Zionism, on the other hand, tries to achieve its goals by distorting Judaism, oppressing people, usurping lands belonging to others, and doing every abomination prohibited by the Torah. The principles taught by Zionism are to steal, kill, usurp lands and exile people. Zionism is contrary to all the fundamental principles of Judaism".

In other words, the very synagogue of Satan, from Biblical warnings. This is what these Zionists are. These are NOT Jews.

I've saved it to our library but will link to it via another online embed, and I hope it [the embed] plays reasonably smoothly without too many buffering hiccups:



Whither the turmoil? He was arrested under the Terrorism Act 2000 by Metropolitan Police shortly afterwards This is becoming an all too regular occurrence under Keir Sausage's regime. He, along with all other Zionist apologists, may end up with the eggs to go with the sausages, on his face, when the Zionist entity ceases to exist.

The arrest footage follows:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tMQBIIAHFY4

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[Tintin]

As for "selling", the other product being pushed is something called "anti-Semitism", which is a piece of nefarious linguistic programming (chthonic drivel) which we can blame Moritz Steinschneider for. I've written plenty about how stupid that piece of devilment is all over the forum in different places.

Here, the Zionists are up to their usual tricks: an attempt to deflect from the primary product with the conflated oxymoron "anti-Semitism."

Professor David Miller sums up the recent 'advertising campaign' around the football/soccer related shenanigans in Amsterdam. Apparently the Maccabi Tel Aviv supporters contained Mossad agents. What a surprise....

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Now we know that Mossad were involved in Operation Ajax — the mission to ignite hysteria across Europe about non-existent Judeophobia using incitement by Maccabi Tel Aviv-affiliated Zionist terrorists — there are some obvious consequences that must follow:

1. Zionist colonists must be expelled from UEFA and FIFA.

2. If the institutions do not do their duty of de-Zionising football by the stroke of a pen, the people will take care of it through material de-Zionisation on the streets. Last night's response by the brave Muslim communities of Amsterdam was necessary, but extremely measured and not at all proportional to the genocidal violence unleashed by Zionist terrorists on the Levant, on Muslims worldwide, or indeed in the provocations that preceded the measured response. Future incidents will likely involve a more proportional response.

3. As well as being unwelcoming to Zionist colonists coming from Occupied Palestine, Europe must be unviable as a base for Zionist terror by Jewish supremacists who have infiltrated and are camouflaged among us. Zionist terrorist entryists must be expunged from European institutions, whether political parties, media, thinktanks or elsewhere. Again, either institutions take the lead and conduct this work in orderly fashion with advice from experts on Zionist subversion, or the people will take care of it for them.

The Flood is here and the 'dam has broken.

#DismantleZionism

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Of course he's made the same blunder everyone seems to by mentioning "Jewish supremacists". They are NOT Jewish; they are Zionist supremacists.

Other than that it's a solid statement, and I rather suspect that the sentiments he's shared here will manifest more widely, at least in Europe, with some kind of kinetic action.

[Sirus]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Sirus (here)
What definition and type of Zionism are we discussing here Dennis?

I don't understand your question, Sirus. Definition and type? This isn't theoretical, it's about actual current Zionism propaganda. I hope this isn't an attempt to obfuscate or dismiss the actual nature of Zionism and Zionist propaganda.


Actually, if you want to start a thread or join a thread that defines Zionism or goes through the early history of Zionism, your question of "definition and type" might be welcomed. Here, I see it as deflecting the obvious, as the title of this thread is "Selling Zionism - the modern era." May I ask, do you consider yourself to be Zionist or accept Zionist precepts? If you are Jewish, or Israeli, please don't try to defend Judaism or Israeli citizenship support by defending Zionism. The Israeli Jews have been hijacked by Zionism - Zionism is NOT about Judaism or Jews.

How can you discuss what people are selling, if you can't define what it is they are selling in the first place?
What's your understanding of Zionism?

It's a simple question Dennis.

[Dennis Leahy]

I'll also note that we could go back through this forum and - within the context of proclaiming what ideology the USA, Inc. is devolved/devolving into - that you can replace the words "socialism" and "communism" with Zionism.


Saying that the US is devolving into "Marxism!", "socialism", or "communism" is a red herring, using trigger words (to obfuscate the logic center of the brain in favor of the emotional center in the brain). Connect the dots - it's been Zionism all along. Biden is an avowed Zionist. Trump is a Zionist under the direction of Deep State, US-based "Christian Zionists." The Shadow Government of the United States is Zionist. Would Trump pass a polygraph test if asked if he really loves America and wants to make it great? I'd bet a large sum that yes, he is sincere. But sincerity and truth are not the same. Trump appears to have no idea at all what Zionism really is.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Sirus (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Sirus (here)
What definition and type of Zionism are we discussing here Dennis?

I don't understand your question, Sirus. Definition and type? This isn't theoretical, it's about actual current Zionism propaganda. I hope this isn't an attempt to obfuscate or dismiss the actual nature of Zionism and Zionist propaganda.


Actually, if you want to start a thread or join a thread that defines Zionism or goes through the early history of Zionism, your question of "definition and type" might be welcomed. Here, I see it as deflecting the obvious, as the title of this thread is "Selling Zionism - the modern era." May I ask, do you consider yourself to be Zionist or accept Zionist precepts? If you are Jewish, or Israeli, please don't try to defend Judaism or Israeli citizenship support by defending Zionism. The Israeli Jews have been hijacked by Zionism - Zionism is NOT about Judaism or Jews.

How can you discuss what people are selling, if you can't define what it is they are selling in the first place?
What's your understanding of Zionism?

It's a simple question Dennis.

Are you Zionist? AIPAC? I remember when Bill Clinton said about sperm stains on a dress, "It depends on the meaning of the word "is."" Yes, it is quite possible to deflect away from a subject by getting pedantic and playing word games. I'm just going to assume that you DO know what "selling Zionism - the modern era" means, and are trying to dilute the impact of such an examination. There are a couple dozen threads here at Avalon with the word "Zionism" in the title - maybe go and read those and figure out which thread to discuss the "definition and type" of Zionism rather than how Zionism is being sold/foisted on humanity. Again, I'm going to invite you to stop subtracting from the gist of this thread.

[Sirus]

I'll leave you to it Dennis.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Zion:
Used to mean a home for the Jews.

Now it is mostly used as a pejorative.

The sacred hill of Jerusalem, the city that David built.

[Michel Leclerc]

Thank you Tintin. Two points.

One. May I just ask you to explain “Zionist terrorist entryists”? Do you mean "entering" Zionist terrorists? (“Entering into Europe", that is.) Because "entryists" would mean something like "people convinced that "entry" (e.g. into Europe) is something to be aspired to achieved, preached etc.”. Adherents of an ideology centered on "entering", in other words.

Two. You may not have encountered my small analysis of the concept of "antisemitism" elsewhere on PA. I do not proselytise, would only advocate clarity of terms and concepts. Anti-semitism is a term that has not existed since yesterday or yesteryear but since the century before yestercentury. We cannot "unexist" it, since it exits and is used. It means a (pathological, ideological, racist) aversion/fear/hatred of people who belong to Semitic cultures. Semitic cultures being cultures that use Semitic languages. (Whether the word "Semite" was used by the Semites themselves in BCE times or not is not essential; in BCA times a certain group of languages existed in the Levant that shared a significative number of features and were mutually comprehensible. Ugaritic, Akkadian, Phoenician, Canaanite, Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, Palmyrian, Syrian, etc. Aversion of speakers of those languages (representatives of their linguistic cultures) has existed since the 19th century. I do not understand why you call "anti-semitism" an oxymoron. It is not. People who have an aversion of Chinese people, culture, civilisation might be called Antisinites. That the word "antisinite" is not in use does not prove that the concept would have no meaning. It would.

Hence it follows that a racial, ideological hatred/fear/aversion of Arabs (so-called Arabophobia) is a form of antisemitism, because Arabic culture is one of the many Semitic cultures. Obviously hatred/fear/aversion of Jews is a form of antisemitism, because Jews are (to the extent of their participation in, identification with Jewish culture) of a Semitic culture. (People can, in spite of what the "anti multi culti" crowd thinks, be multi-cultural.) Should certain people in Iceland for example, or in Lanzarote, entertain a fiery ideological hatred for anybody who is Ethiopian, they would be antisemites by the very fact that Ethiopian culture is a Semitic culture.

Hence, and by the very fact that Zionists are NOT by definition Jews (although certain Jews may be zionists!) as you correctly point out, the hatred of Arabs entertained by present-day genocidal Zionists is an anti-Semitic hatred. I point that out because I think that affirming and repeating that is an ideological weapon against those Zionists. It is not the people who criticise the genocidal Zionists who would be, by that fact, anti-Jewish and hence anti-semitic (which the genocidal Zionists erroneously and perfidiously claim) – it is these Zionists themselves who by their racial hatred of Arabs are antisemitic! In other words: we should not make the word disappear (claiming that it is an oxymoron, which I would still like to see the demonstration of) because it will never be because the weapon will continue to be wielded by the genocidal zionists, we should turn it around and against them as they are the real antisemites! But of course we can only do so (and “ay, here is the rub”) if we ourselves, as Westerners, stop harbouring racial, ideological etc. resentments, aversions, hatred against those “black-bearded brown-skinned” Arabs of Hollywood lore ourselves. As long as we keep cherishing such feelings of antisemitism in. our bosom we will continue to be LIKE the genocidal Zionist antisemites! – and the latter will have a quite easy playing field in associating the Westerners' form of anti-Arab antisemitism with their form of it (in which they will be factually right!) while obviously "obliterating" as much as possible the very identification of "Arab-hating" with antisemitism.

[Dennis Leahy]

Michel, I'd not recommend trying to wield the Zionists big narrative weapon ("anti-semite!") against them. I've seen it attempted by writers (I've tried it myself), and everything quickly devolves into semantics and changes its focus. Even orthodox Jews get labeled as anti-semites when they expose Zionism.





How else is Zionism sold in the modern era? How did Mike Johnson get infected? How did the Zionist neocons who wrote Project For A New American Century get infected? How did Biden get infected? How did Trump get infected?

[shaberon]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
How else is Zionism sold in the modern era? How did Mike Johnson get infected? How did the Zionist neocons who wrote Project For A New American Century get infected? How did Biden get infected? How did Trump get infected?

Is it?

Aren't you either in or out of it?

If we need existential questions as to what it "is", we are still going uphill.

The "-ism" per se is derived from the nineteenth-century phrase "lovers of Zion", and has no real meaning prior to that.

I don't really know these people, so, I certainly have no example of anyone who "decided to join". As far as I know, it comes from Sunday School. Outside of that, I'm not sure, there are tendrils in most mental aspects of life, such as if we legally define "Anti-Semitism", it's not a church doctrine or anything other than to provoke me with words and tell me how to think. I might say the whole "sympathy ploy" has been "transferred to everyone", in the sense of equal opportunity or equal rights, etc., is all like a widespread bloom from the Zionist seed, even though it pertains to "you" rather than Israel. Everyone whose "rights" were tuned up is supposed to learn this "equity", such as the "right to self-defense" of the Occupation.

I'm not sure it's need for us is to "join" it, but simply not to "block" it; I would suggest what is being sold to the public is non-interference, stand down, look the other way.

That being said, it may be interesting to see who may have been "sucked in" to the strategy and how that happened.

[Michel Leclerc]

Dennis thank you. I understand what you are saying, but the point you are making is in my eyes a sufficient reason to use that argument all the time. I start (here, and in general) from the point of view that "genocidal killers of Amalekites” are psychotic serial killers and should be policed away as soon as possible. A last chance would be given in the form of an attempt to break the psychosis. Your sentence “Even orthodox Jews get labeled as anti-semites when they expose Zionism.” shows my point. Why would that be something one would wish to avoid ("Even...”). On the contrary, it should be provoked. The Orthodox Jews (you mean, of course, non-Zionist, "theologically non-Zionist” Jews (being therefore Jews!) should hear this argument "you are antisemites" in order to be able to reply with "but you are NOT Jews” (and hence your Israel construct has no justification etc.). In every discussion genocidal Zionists should be brought home to them that by their very use of language they have excluded themselves from humanity and become psychotic serial killers.

Two additional points:
In every discussion with Zionists (also, many years ago, with "non-psychotic murder-prone" Zionists) I have discovered that leading the discussing away from the intellectual approach (in which the Shapiro-style "semantic" manipulation of the discussion is resorted to because successful) and the triggering of emotional "episodes" leads to a fracture in the neurosis and occasionally psychosis. The reference to certain commandments linked with the witnessing of torture, killing etc. leads to denial: “I am NOT a sinner, I am not sinning by thinking that way” — “but the Prophets would call that sinning, HaShem does not like the aroma of burning flesh" – “I am not like that, I am no like that” etc. This phenomenon is interesting and a possible way out. The young IDF soldiers dancing and f..king away do so because doing so they evacuate their emotional reluctance or angst at following their own reasoning. So it is through the emotions that they can be accessed, I guess. (And my pushing the button "you are yourselves antisemites and antiJews" should avoid the semantics discussion and rather be used to break the emotional blockade.

(I add that one should not enter into such a discussion (in a "street setting") without a weapon with which one can if need be save one’s life (as seasoned demonstrators do when violent behaviour from the other side cannot be excluded.)

The second point is my answer to your question. It is the insidious playing with our suppressed guilt of being antisemites because Arab-haters ourselves that does the selling. “You are a good goj because you do not resist us and hence you are not an antisemite (like we are not, obviously), and you are a good goj because you are our ally in hating the Arabs and hence you are an antisemite like we are, obviously)". A classical double bind, in other words. Hate me because you love me and love me because you hate me. Don't be an antisemite by being an antisemite and be an antisemite because your are not an antisemite.

How can we not "buy" that? By not being antisemites ourselves (as Arab-haters and... as “non-Zionist-Jew"-haters).

"I am not like you. I do not want to kill the Amalekites. They are my neighhours. I want to make love to them."

If we are able to confront them without any form of racism (exceptionalism etc.), then that may contribute to their serial killer psychotic stance – which is of course untenable, but before it breaks it will still kill thousands and we should stop that – actually dissolving. Besides, if we show our real innocence in this, the non-genocidal Israelis may become more numerous and more brave and break the genocidal government’s logic and determination.

[Dennis Leahy]

https://youtube.com/shorts/3QVl3-VePFQ


"Combating Antisemitism Trump's Commitment To Jewish Americans"



source: https://youtube.com/shorts/3QVl3-VePFQ




Here's another way to sell Zionism. "antisemitic propaganda" what exactly is "antisemitic propaganda"?

Zionism-1, Free Speech-0

Has Trump not paid attention to what AIPAC calls antisemitism? Everything not glowingly supportive of Israel, the IDF, Mossad, and Zionism, but mostly, it is pointedly rebranding any support for Palestine as antisemetic propaganda.

The dumbass Dems kept calling Trump a fascist when all along he was much worse, a zionist. Good God, he sounds stupid, having fallen hook line and sinker for Zionism. And whoever brainwashed this guy to fall for Zionism so hard should stand up and take a bow - you're the best brainwasher of all. The best. Really, the best.

[shaberon]

Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
I have discovered that leading the discussing away from the intellectual approach (in which the Shapiro-style "semantic" manipulation of the discussion is resorted to because successful) and the triggering of emotional "episodes" leads to a fracture in the neurosis and occasionally psychosis...And my pushing the button "you are yourselves antisemites and antiJews" should avoid the semantics discussion and rather be used to break the emotional blockade.

That may summarize or help me say what I'm trying to say.

I politely refer to it as "being a little rude", which mixes well with actual humiliation.

That specific example to me is theoretical, since I have never personally experienced the inane misuse of "Semite". That is because I live in America and I am in over my ears with the followers of the Book of Revelations. I wish I could pretend that it would go away, and I can. But they keep following it. The history or even the reality of the situation does not matter, those words do. If it meant you had to sniff Pluto up your nose, they would try.

But yes, the forcefulness referred to above is significant, "fracture the neurosis" is really applicable to a wide array of human experiences, not just this. It's something you can sense, like how a good fisherman knows when to pull the hook and I mostly catch trees. I can shoot a basketball from range, but I can't do any of the stuff that makes you useful to a team. I do, however, have a thing for psychologically overpowering a human being, to the stage of a wreck if need be, remorselessly. It's not the same as foul language to make you mad. Perhaps more like quicksand.

Judging from my background, I am unlikely to drift into any discussion on political-correctness of Zionism. For me it will be the "demonic" thing, I will basically encounter superstitious people who know you are going straight to hell, and will be judged accordingly as an inferior being. As I have said, I live under a law that I can't talk to the neighbor, I have to be quiet and act dumb. If I was going to have the discussion, that is where it would be, and the people that know me know it would be a really bad idea.

I have to maintain the strangest kind of vows sometimes.

I have to be condescending here because the American phenomenon is the tv evangelist.

It's a low-order mentality which Europe does not generally reduce themselves to, so, I am practically positive there is nothing you can compare it to.

It definitely comes from an era 1967 Billy Graham made speeches to large audiences in New York and so on, and from there it moves to a weekly tv show, and there are others, the Bakers and so on, and it gets easier to open your own church. And there are waves of tent revivals and things like this. And it's kind of a craze, but it's not rock and roll. And eventually they try that too. I've met people who picked up the job, "preacher", while they were in prison. And there's a bit of a "born again" craze for some people. It is a strange ball of wax, like the necromancy of the 1800s.

So, in that era, you could accurately say that a lot of young people in their 20s got "converted", but, once it is up and running, it's just there as the families and communities.

This does not answer for the Mormons, but, yes, a few to a few million in a few years through the tv.

I think one of the things Trump said was also accurate, any politician "has to deal with" Israel favorably. It's an accepted standard, and I have little expectation that any of its main adherents were at any point taken or removed from a dissenting view. Even if they are not evangelicals, it is still a modus operandi.

I can't legally stop the indoctrination centers. I can only offer an alternative.

[Rizotto]

Thanks Dennis for starting this thread. It's an existential issue that needs to be dissected thoroughly.

Zionism = Israel lobby deception, lies, false flags wars endlessly dragging the US down to ruin, genocidal ethnic cleansing of arabs from the middle east and stealing/destroying everything they had, child-sex trafficking blackmail operations at high levels, etc. There, fixed the definition for you all. It's possible that zionism might at one time been defined as something else, like a safe country for jews. But not anymore. Zionism has made it much less safe to be a jew in Israel, and perhaps many other places in the world by now. There are consequences about brain washing your population into behaving like entitled murderous supremacists.

Defining zionism is ultimately tied to the definition of 'Jew'. Which is problematic because it's unclear to most as to whether 'jews' get classified as a race or religion, or both perhaps? I'm raising this 'race' issue only because Israel has in the past refused to accept Ethiopian Jews as Israeli citizens, apparently because they're black. But now Israel is happy to give them citizenship, if only they'll agree to go fight on the frontlines. And most likely die there. Just another indication of how fluid these definitions can get, when opportunism is the driving factor.

The US complicity in Israel's genocide of Palestinians has resulted in many, if not most, countries in the world distancing themselves from US, which increasing the global isolation of the US-Israel axis. And yet, I'm not aware that a single word has been spoken in Trump's circle about that critical issue. Nor among democrats either. The AIPAC stranglehold on US politicians is still very strong.

As for Trump's personal alignment with zionism, it does not appear to be something he thought out in any logical or moral manner. Has anybody heard him say anything else than the old cliches of 'we must help Israel defend itself' (... by bombing defenseless civilian populations). Come to think of it, there's nothing logical or moral about genociding your neighbors and grabbing their land, so we can't expect Trump to come up with some edifying statements on this. Not possible. Overall Trump's dalliance with zionism is most likely driven by opportunity. There's a lot of wealth to be made with real estate and oil markets once Israel has expanded into 'greater Israel'.

But let's face it, it is the sizeable 'zionist christians' movement in US making all of this possible. Too many members of US congress have expressed these beliefs publicly. It is mind-boggling to see that millions of americans are demanding complete subservience to Israel, based on biblical scriptures written thousands (or maybe a few dozen?) of years ago. I would not have believed this could be possible a short while ago, but I have seen this cult fervour with my own eyes in my community. It's the weirdest mind control. I normally don't interfere in other people's religious beliefs, but this is different. There is a very real collective danger building up with this cult. I'll never forget that video clip of Mike Pompeo back in 2018 speaking to an audience of zionist christians about getting Damascus destroyed, as per biblical prophecy.

The question is, what to do about this cult that is pushing for armageddon so they can get their 'rapture' reward.

[shaberon]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Zionism = Israel lobby deception, lies, false flags wars endlessly dragging the US down to ruin, genocidal ethnic cleansing of arabs from the middle east and stealing/destroying everything they had, child-sex trafficking blackmail operations at high levels, etc. There, fixed the definition for you all.

This became the formal policy of Irgun:

Revisionist Zionism is a form of Zionism characterized by territorial maximalism. Revisionist Zionism promoted expansionism and the establishment of a Jewish majority on both sides of the Jordan River.

Developed by Ze'ev Jabotinsky, this ideology advocated a "revision" of the "practical Zionism" of David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann which was focused on the settling of Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel) by independent individuals. Differing from other types of Zionism, Revisionists insisted upon the Jewish right to sovereignty over the whole of Eretz Yisrael, which they equated to Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan. It was the main ideological opponent to the dominant socialist Labor Zionism.

There was prior militancy under Haganah and other names, but, there, we will openly admit its transition to political power.

To go along with that, we found the far-right parties of the 1970s Israel built up, and then were actually legally banned there and declared terrorist organizations by the United States.

However, on behalf of Ben Gvir and others who are in power now, not only was the ban repealed, but, the terrorist designation was removed off of historical events and people.

So, there can still be such a thing as Zionists who oppose extremism, whereas "Revision" is "Nakba". Well, as outsiders, we might surmise the first few years might have been a grey area, maybe the Arabs were to blame or something, but by this point you should get a grip. Anyone would know something is wrong here.

In my experience, getting a straight answer from the establishment on anything like this is, as you say:


Not Possible.


There are no mental contents capable of interfacing with anything besides a pre-determined script.

The question is, what to do about this cult that is pushing for armageddon so they can get their 'rapture' reward.

The real answer I could give would have to be to restore Orthodoxy.

I personally would be glad to give plenty of encouragement for the Orthodox and Thomasene Apostolic Succession.

I live in a land of tv evangelists.


I am leery that addressing the cultism itself might be too slow of an issue, compared to what could be done to terminate these powers. Because it is a popular American constituency that is still in league with AIPAC, and very weird French and Czech counterparts. I am thinking the power or ability must be stopped, which will affect the whole. For example, Israeli defense allowance out of our taxes. On this one issue hangs perhaps the entirety of the parasite.

The next answer is suffering. If this strategy has consequences, such as sanctions backfire or hate breeds hate, sooner or later the cows come home to roost. Go through whatever x factor waits behind the curtain of collapse. I can't speak for other countries, but the US Fed knows it stays about three days ahead of collapse. For example, threaten Iranian oil, the price of gas spontaneously triples, start adding a few other things to that, whatever it takes. You see it every time. Looting begins in only a few days, and crime will rapidly spread unless you confine it. This is fine with vulture capitalists in some other countries, but not here. If something negatively affects money and food, disorder will prevail.

So it is not out of the question we may receive tremendous suffering, but not in a military sense. If the domestic situation implodes, then, the Zionist funding could be impeded. No invasion or attack on us would be necessary.

I don't know what happened to BDS, but I thought originally that was what "politically correct" meant.

For a while I was describing myself in ways similar to politicians and then I was surprised when my understanding was the opposite of their intention.

That's why I remember it fairly well, this slap in the face followed by insinuations about telling you how to talk. You'd say "it shouldn't spread through the institutions" and it spread through the institutions.

That's why Zionism sometimes looks as if it were part of a bubble bath of Liberal cheer, when in actuality it has been one of the most extreme far-right death squads since it started, before and aside from the Nazis.

Directly addressing hypnotizees of Revelations bears minimal effect, I think you can kind of swarm it and outbreed it i. e. with the rest of the planet. But, you know, it was on tv, these people are smart.

[Rizotto]

Thought to understand the problem it might be useful to look up exactly what motivates zionist christians. Just a bit of research led me to CUFI (Christians United for Israel), an organization located in the US, and its popular leader John Hagee. Apparently it's a big movement in the US. Perhaps the Americans on this page can tell us if CUFI is the main or central christian zionist organization in the US. (I personally have no idea, all of that stuff is completely foreign to me.) Is this the group that Trump has associated with?

Started to watch the following video, of John Hagee delivering a speech to a packed venue. He speaks the same language as those zionist christians in my community in northern Canada, so I'm guessing at this point that CUFI & John Hagee are where they get their world view from.

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Quoting the video's description:

"America did not enter WWII until Pearl Harbor. War was being waged for two years and three months before America was forced into the war. In one week, we went from a nation of peace to a nation fighting for survival. WWIII has started! The winds of war may blow in different directions, but sooner or later it will come to America. Russia wants to rebuild the USSR. What does the Bible say about the Russian invasion of Israel? Israel has a Defender who is prepared to defeat her enemies. He neither slumbers nor sleeps. God’s message to America, “The day you stop defending Israel is the day God stops defending you.” Jesus is coming, and He will reign forever! Are you ready?"

Pastor John Hagee - "Jerusalem and WWIII"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iCsoPkGd61I

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Your thoughts? Especially on these words from Hagee: “The day you stop defending Israel is the day God stops defending you.”

[Rizotto]

The above video is over 2 years old. There are more recent speeches by John Hagee, which I haven't watched yet, but they mostly appear to be about the end times, judging by the title. Curiously, all of those videos have the exact same time scale, 28:30. Here's one of them, dated October 24, 2024.
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Quoting video's description:

"America and the countries of the world are falling apart, laden with absolute corruption. Christ is coming for those who “eagerly” look for him, but many doubt his return. This deep dive through Scripture walks us through the signs of Jesus’ return."

Pastor John Hagee - "Seven Signs of His Coming"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=R8Q0GWcwhCI