Trump is NOT the answer

[AutumnW]

Posted by Vangelo (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)
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That's terrible. Was it during the pandemic?

No, it was a year or 2 before the pandemic.

There are plenty of examples of this kind of thing in every medical system. The difference is, in the US, people go through the same and lose their homes having to pay for what is essentially malpractice. At least in Canada when we get f'd around by incompetence, we don't go bankrupt at the same time.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
as it seems that you and I live on different planets

*In CANADA,* under a universal system

Ah - not a different planet - just a different country

Posted by AutumnW (here)
... big pharma is subject to provincial mandates, as in....doctors are not allowed to prescribe an expensive drug, under patent, if a cheaper generic drug is available

How did that work out in the main 2021-2022 years of the Covid Vaccines?

Were hydroxychloroquine, chlorine dioxide, ivermectin, fenbendazole, Vitamin D, et al more widely used and recommended, or were the vaccines more widely used and for many people, practically required in some manner, public, private, employment, community, ...?

We have rules with similar effect in the States ... the "Emergency Use Authorization" under which the vaccines were allowed and widely mandated and administered depended on the government medical officials determining that there were no existing readily available alternatives. Score: Big Pharma and Big Profits from managing sickness: 1; Truth and Health: 0.

Here in the States, Big Pharma makes Big Money and uses those profits to exert Big Influence over our government medical officials administering medical programs, over the legislators and regulators directing them, over our major news media reporting them, and over our social media discussing them.

I presumed that Canada has similar problems, in varying degrees across various provinces, just as we do across the various States, albeit with somewhat different government structures and financial scale. Have I been wrong?

[T Smith]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
as it seems that you and I live on different planets

*In CANADA,* under a universal system

Ah - not a different planet - just a different country

Posted by AutumnW (here)
... big pharma is subject to provincial mandates, as in....doctors are not allowed to prescribe an expensive drug, under patent, if a cheaper generic drug is available

How did that work out in the main 2021-2022 years of the Covid Vaccines?

Were hydroxychloroquine, chlorine dioxide, ivermectin, fenbendazole, Vitamin D, et al more widely used and recommended, or were the vaccines more widely used and for many people, practically required in some manner, public, private, employment, community, ...?

We have rules with similar effect in the States ... the "Emergency Use Authorization" under which the vaccines were allowed and widely mandated and administered depended on the government medical officials determining that there were no existing readily available alternatives. Score: Big Pharma and Big Profits from managing sickness: 1; Truth and Health: 0.

Here in the States, Big Pharma makes Big Money and uses those profits to exert Big Influence over our government medical officials administering medical programs, over the legislators and regulators directing them, over our major news media reporting them, and over our social media discussing them.

I presumed that Canada has similar problems, in varying degrees across various provinces, just as we do across the various States, albeit with somewhat different government structures and financial scale. Have I been wrong?

This is a fascinating discovery process; seems to me but a slight semantic distinction between Big Pharma vs. Big Government? Not sure if it matters who works for whom or what entity controls/administers the healthcare system. I see both as different sides of the same coin.

That said, aside from what I've gleaned from this discussion, I'm relatively ignorant about how the heath care system in Canada works. In my personal experience, however, I still have PTSD after attempting to drive through Canada (June 2022), coming from Port Huron, MI, driving to Buffalo, NY (approximately 3.5 hr drive passing through Canada, non-stop); after showing my papers at the border and a lengthy (and hostile) interrogation, I responded honestly and respectfully when asked about my healthcare and vaccine status, informing the officials I had not been vaccinated for COVID 19. Not only was I turned right back around and made to drive around Lake Erie through Ohio and Pennsylvania to get to Buffalo (adding 5 hrs to my trip), I was instantly detained at the Border Services Agency office for further questioning and paperwork. I was placed in a closed room and made to wait for over two hours while my vehicle and bags were rifled through and thoroughly searched. After the two hour wait I was then further interrogated about all my personal affects, including all the items in my toiletry bag. I was required to explain, to the satisfaction of the authorities, all my legally-prescribed medications and over-the counter vitamins--including why I was taking vitamins. Huh? Vitamin D and Zinc? Really?

Two hours and a boat-load of paperwork later, the Canadian government finally turned me right back around into Michigan and let me be on my way (with uncontainable disdain), but only after emptying all my bags (and vitamins) and strewing them all in a heap in the back seat of my vehicle.

Of course this was just a humiliation ritual--I understood I wasn't subject to a legitimate interrogation/crime. Needless to say, I got the message. You're not welcome here, dissident.

In any case, I can't imagine the Gestapo circa 1945 being much more hostile/invasive.

So my takeaway is, pick your poison.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by T Smith (here)
seems to me but a slight semantic distinction between Big Pharma vs. Big Government? Not sure if it matters who works for whom or what entity controls/administers the healthcare system.

My take is that our Khazarian Overlords form a complex network of institutions to "manage" us humans. This includes "Big Pharma", which leverages major drug technology to sicken and weaken us (as does Big Ag), and in turn leverages our sickness to generate massive income streams, which in turn it leverages to control our main stream media (especially in the U.S., where advertising pharmaceuticals to the public is legal, generating major cash flow) and to control our elected officials, by funding their campaigns and controlling (see above) the main stream media that plays a critical role in successful political campaigns.

Big Banking might be the equivalent of the main diesel engine in modern locomotive trains, but Big Pharma might be the equivalent the major electrical alternators and motors, that convert the rotational energy of the diesel's shaft to electricity, and then use electricity to drive motors on each main traction wheel.

Big Government is the control apparatus and crew, which the passengers are told work for them, but who are mostly "biological" cogs in a complex apparatus they hardly understand.

Posted by T Smith (here)
informing the officials I had not been vaccinated for COVID 19.

I gather you are less enamored of Canada's medical system than some of us on this thread seem to be

[Mike]

Posted by T Smith (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
as it seems that you and I live on different planets

*In CANADA,* under a universal system

Ah - not a different planet - just a different country

Posted by AutumnW (here)
... big pharma is subject to provincial mandates, as in....doctors are not allowed to prescribe an expensive drug, under patent, if a cheaper generic drug is available

How did that work out in the main 2021-2022 years of the Covid Vaccines?

Were hydroxychloroquine, chlorine dioxide, ivermectin, fenbendazole, Vitamin D, et al more widely used and recommended, or were the vaccines more widely used and for many people, practically required in some manner, public, private, employment, community, ...?

We have rules with similar effect in the States ... the "Emergency Use Authorization" under which the vaccines were allowed and widely mandated and administered depended on the government medical officials determining that there were no existing readily available alternatives. Score: Big Pharma and Big Profits from managing sickness: 1; Truth and Health: 0.

Here in the States, Big Pharma makes Big Money and uses those profits to exert Big Influence over our government medical officials administering medical programs, over the legislators and regulators directing them, over our major news media reporting them, and over our social media discussing them.

I presumed that Canada has similar problems, in varying degrees across various provinces, just as we do across the various States, albeit with somewhat different government structures and financial scale. Have I been wrong?

This is a fascinating discovery process; seems to me but a slight semantic distinction between Big Pharma vs. Big Government? Not sure if it matters who works for whom or what entity controls/administers the healthcare system. I see both as different sides of the same coin.

That said, aside from what I've gleaned from this discussion, I'm relatively ignorant about how the heath care system in Canada works. In my personal experience, however, I still have PTSD after attempting to drive through Canada (June 2022), coming from Port Huron, MI, driving to Buffalo, NY (approximately 3.5 hr drive passing through Canada, non-stop); after showing my papers at the border and a lengthy (and hostile) interrogation, I responded honestly and respectfully when asked about my healthcare and vaccine status, informing the officials I had not been vaccinated for COVID 19. Not only was I turned right back around and made to drive around Lake Erie through Ohio and Pennsylvania to get to Buffalo (adding 5 hrs to my trip), I was instantly detained at the Border Services Agency office for further questioning and paperwork. I was placed in a closed room and made to wait for over two hours while my vehicle and bags were rifled through and throughly searched. After the two hour wait I was then further interrogated about all my personal affects, including all the items in my toiletry bag. I was required to explain, to the satisfaction of the authorities, all my legally-prescribed medications and over-the counter vitamins--including why I was taking vitamins. Huh? Vitamin D and Zinc? Really?

Two hours and a boat-load of paperwork later, the Canadian government finally turned me right back around into Michigan and let me be on my way (with uncontainable disdain), but only after emptying all my bags (and vitamins) and strewing them all in a heap in the back seat of my vehicle.

Of course this was just a humiliation ritual--I understood I wasn't subject to a legitimate interrogation/crime. Needless to say, I got the message. You're not welcome here, dissident.

In any case, I can't imagine the Gestapo circa 1945 being much more hostile/invasive.

So my takeaway is, pick your poison.

I had a similar experience trying to get into Canada, and this was way back in the early 2000's.

My friend had this preposterous idea that we'd go to some Canadian night clubs, on a whim, immediately after a workout, on a Wednesday night or something...without changing out of our workout gear. The Canadian border is less than 2 hours from where I lived then (upstate NY), so we set off without much thought at all.

The Canadian authorities were probably rightfully suspicious in this instance. Same scenario as yours: locked my car up in some garage and put into interrogation rooms. After searching my car thoroughly, they returned looking frustrated and flustered, demanding to know where the "doobage" was hidden. They thought we were drug smugglers!

It didn't help that I'd been arrested 6 months prior and my community service documents were in my backseat (A brawl at a local bar that had nothing to do with me btw. I was forced to hit a man when cornered, and since I was paying with a credit card they were able to identify me). And my friend who was something of a wild man had numerous blemishes on his record, which were discovered while we were there.

These border clowns simply refused to believe our story, and I could hardly blame them! They kept us there for hours, trying to wear us down and force us into some kind of confession. My buddy is from a wealthy and influential family (influential in our little town anyway) and was used to his mom bailing him out of all his legal situations in a snap(and there were plenty), and he kept insisting the border agents "call my mom" so this could all be straightened out. It was an utterly ridiculous scenario LOL. The border agents were totally befuddled. Here they had 2 troublemakers (on paper anyway) arriving at the border to experience the Canadian nightlife on a Wednesday, dressed in workout gear, with one continually insisting they call his mother to verify our story.

Once they were finally convinced that there were no drugs in my car and we were actually telling the truth, they were quite amused (and bemused). They escorted us to my car and one agent said, "Okay, you're going that way," and he pointed in the direction of the way we came, but at the time I thought he was pointing towards Canada (I was a little disoriented). I asked the guy, "So you're letting us in?". And he said, "Nope, that way," and he pointed again. Then I got the hint.

There's actually far more to this story, but I'm already way off topic as is...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

By all means continue even if it is momentarily off-topic. I love stories like these, or just stories if truth be told. For my part in Europe I have nothing of this kind to share. Pre-Brexit, travelling to another European nation, meant it was little different than travelling to another UK city. As long as you had your passport you were met at the other end with 'welcome, come on in.'

Arriving on US shores, which I've gone through multiple times (albeit pre-9/11), have all been relatively painless in my experience. Although there was this one time, arriving at JFK. I'd flown in one-way on a flight that originated in Delhi. The line was Air India. I was one of a handful of passengers that joined at London (I got this flight as it was dirt cheap). Except for a few Brits the flight was full of Indians, so you can imagine the scene at customs after we landed. The line was long and very slow-moving - until one of the Brits spoke up... We were bumped to the front of the line, and rushed through in less than a minute.

Today's woke cynic will say this was racially motivated favouritism. I can't swear that it wasn't, but I prefer to believe Anglo-American relations played in our favour; we also spoke fluent English, making us easier to deal with than the two hundred or so other passengers.

[Mike]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
By all means continue even if it is momentarily off-topic. I love stories like these, or just stories if truth be told. For my part in Europe I have nothing of this kind to share. Pre-Brexit, travelling to another European nation, meant it was little different than travelling to another UK city. As long as you had your passport you were met at the other end with 'welcome, come on in.'

Arriving on US shores, which I've gone through multiple times (albeit pre-9/11), have all been relatively painless in my experience. Although there was this one time, arriving at JFK. I'd flown in one-way on a flight that originated in Delhi. The line was Air India. I was one of a handful of passengers that joined at London (I got this flight as it was dirt cheap). Except for a few Brits the flight was full of Indians, so you can imagine the scene at customs after we landed. The line was long and very slow-moving - until one of the Brits spoke up... We were bumped to the front of the line, and rushed through in less than a minute.

Today's woke cynic will say this was racially motivated favouritism. I can't swear that it wasn't, but I prefer to believe Anglo-American relations played in our favour; we also spoke fluent English, making us easier to deal with than the two hundred or so other passengers.

Oh Lord...okay

On the way home we stopped at this little hole in the wall bar, and wound up befriending some military guys there, and agreed to connect a week or two later (I can't recall exactly) at this other hole in the wall bar in my hometown.

But when I left the bar that night I was so drunk that I began driving the wrong way down a one-way road on the way to the main highway, and got pulled over. Mind you, I was just finally resolving this legal issue from 6 months prior. I'd never really been in much trouble in my life, and now there was all this. I knew I was going to go to jail. So I just sat back in my seat, waited for the officer, and kind of accepted it all. I felt strangely at peace with it.

So it takes the officer an eternity to arrive at my door, or at least it felt that way. My buddy Jay was drunker that I was, and he was mumbling incoherently and drooling on himself basically. I knew he wouldn't be much use. He and I have mildly conflicting memories of what happened next, but we're more or less in agreement: The officer, a woman, arrived at my window finally, and I began removing my license from my wallet in anticipation of her asking for it. And she said, "Put your license away, and for God's sake stop driving drunk!" And then she returned to her patrol car.

Now, I've told this story many times, and almost no one believes that happened...but it happened. She might have asked a couple more questions, or lingered a bit longer, but I have no memory of it. What I do remember is that she sat in her vehicle for maybe 10 mins or so before finally pulling away and leaving the scene. But in the meantime, in my drunken paranoia, I'd assumed this was all some elaborate plot to get me in even more trouble, so I remained parked in my car until she left.

And then, when it was time to start moving again, I continued driving the wrong way down this one-way road. Such was the level of my drunkenness. Not only that, I merged onto the highway, and I was now traveling north on a southbound expressway. There wasn't much traffic at that hour, but I did have to dodge one vehicle before pulling onto the curb and U-turning.

I have no idea how we made it home.

And then we met up with the military guys a week or so later in this hole in the wall bar, and Jay walks in with all this gaudy gold hanging off his neck and wrists. He looked like f'ing Mr T. It was a very working class place, and I knew immediately there'd be trouble.

It was loud in there, but it was clear to me that he was having words with a couple guys to his left (I was sitting to his right). They looked a bit like biker sorts, so I was weary of any conflict. Then Jay did what he normally does, and invited the guys outside for a scrap. Funny thing: when I got up to follow, he planted his hand into my chest and pushed me back onto my stool. He insisted that he wanted to fight both these guys by himself LOL. The guy is a total nut.

I followed him out of course anyway, and here I'll sum up the gist of this little tale: I'd later find out from the bartender (an old high school friend) that these military guys were hustlers and thieves, and had likely arranged to meet with us to rob Jay. I'm not clear if they were in cahoots with the biker dudes, but when we all went outside they were there as well and one of them sucker-punched Jay. Jay recovered quickly and got some shots in himself, but in the meantime the guy had ripped off one of his gold bracelets. But Jay had managed to grab the man's wallet, which had his military ID in it. A stalemate

It should have been a very easy exchange, but these things never are of course. Jay left with the man's military ID and he left with Jay's gold bracelet. Thru some twist or turn he acquired Jay's address and arrived days later begging for his military ID...but without offering the gold bracelet in return He had some silly excuse, but it wasn't sufficient for Jay, who popped him a couple times for good measure before sending him on his way.

I've left out quite a lot, but that's the cliff notes...

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming..

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Many thanks and wow, what a lucky escape! Someone was looking down on you in that moment, thinking (perhaps) it was better if you learned your lesson the easy way. That could be a thread someone could start: how you learned your lesson the easy way. Believe me, I've had a few scrapes myself where I got off exceedingly lightly, but learned a powerful lesson into the bargain.

I recall a good number of drunken misadventures myself. This is just a small anecdote really, but it popped to mind reading yours (the biker connection did it). I was about seventeen, and out one night with a couple of mates in a rowdy heavy metal bar. We were metalheads in those days and this was the place to hang out -- we thought we were cool and could rough it with the big boys.

We were all well on our way to being blasted on cider -- and not any cider, rough Somerset scrumpy; the sort of cider that makes you loose not only your very mind but your senses and your vision and in roughly that order. Anyway, I don't recall what started it, but a game of pool was involved and our opponents took issue to something that was said. It escalated quickly. Being barely out of school we were no match for these guys. Think fat hairy bikers with an attitude problem. Armed with pool cues. We had but a single choice: GTFO.

Fortunately we were still lucid enough to do so. We ran out the door and double quick -- three bikers gave chase. We legged it round the corner, shouting all the while (think it was part terror, part exhilaration). Across the road was a large shopping precinct. That seemed to be the direction we were going. There was no one else around, just us three kids and a pack of burly dudes chasing us with pool cues. At the centre of this plaza was a manicured lawn and a border of flowers. An ornate white chain ran around the outside, sealing it off. Ahead of me, my pals leapt this chain and carried on running into the night. Me, bringing up the rear, saw nothing and ran straight into it, sending me arse over tit (that is to say, head over heels). As I rolled over clutching my knee the first of the bikers caught up to me. I was thinking, I am so dead, and wishing I was drunker, that it might deaden the pain coming my way.

Instead of the swish of a pool cue, I was met with a roar of laugher. This monster of a man, all tattoos and pealing leather, was bent over, fists on his knees, and on the verge of soiling himself at the sight he'd just seen. When he recovered, a long hairy arm reached down and picked me up. Seconds later, one of his mates arrived carrying a pint of cider. He thrust it into my hand. 'Get that down yer neck,' he said. I did as I was told, you bet I did. And all parties left on good terms without a single punch being thrown (or pool cue swung!)



Now let's get to back the topic in hand before I get into trouble myself!

[Alecs]

There is a lot of attention right now on the future of fracking in Pennsylvania. While Kamala Harris’ commitment seems dubious, Donald Trump seems absolutely committed to expand fracking big time, and this significantly concerns me because it may very well spell environmental disaster for the state, especially in western Pennsylvania where oil, coal, and gas extraction along with iron- and steel-related manufacturing have historically beat up on the environment. The price is still being paid.

Take a look at the fracking maps of the region, the multitudes of wells already there. Then research the number of officially reported fracking violations, and all the articles and videos of contaminated water. Look at all the extraction sites that have penetrated the Allegheny National Forest—one of the state’s last remaining old growth forest.

Donald Trump says he wants clean air and clean water. Nothing further said--nothing that gives the farmers and other families of the region assurance that the fracking will be well managed, that their animals, crops and loved ones won’t develop diseases, which can lead to economic disaster for these people. Additionally, Dutchsinse has already pointed out that earthquakes occur from fracking along the edge of the craton plate, and yes, the edge runs right along this region of Pennsylvania.

Trump’s strength yet weakness is that his solutions come from the (limited) perspective of business and global geopolitics. And, keep in mind he’s a developer. Developers from my observations have no concern for the environment. To build homes they clear all the trees and other flora, bring in the bulldozers to re-landscape, sell off the soil and wood, then fit in as many homes as possible.

I have no doubt that companies that do the fracking, many from out of state, are already salivating at the opportunity. With Trump’s plans and policies, everyone gets a piece of the bigger prosperity pie. But simply having jobs and money doesn’t equate with quality of life.

I have my own plans to move to an area in western Pennsylvania specifically because it’s relatively free of fracking and industry. The value is the land—unaltered, relatively clean land with a mix of beautiful natural woodlands and farms. Most homes and farms have water wells there. The community’s economy is partly based on visitors who come to hike, bike, fish and ski. My plans include helping to revitalize their economy, to further develop their reputation as a place to come for one’s health and well being. But my plans may very well be in vain.

With Bobby Kennedy joining the effort focused on making America healthy again, I hope that he will address what I see are Trump’s shortcomings, which includes environmental protection. We absolutely need cleaner food, cleaner water, and cleaner air. As I said, quality of life is not just short-term prosperity. And, it’s not just for humans, but for wildlife as well.

If Trump is going to impose big-picture policies and plans that significantly affect our lives, and that do seem necessary for the time we're in, then he has the responsibility to insert the right people into effectively powerful positions to execute such solutions with necessary mindfulness.

[meat suit]

Yeah, whenever I hear Trump talking it seems to be based on really old fashioned ideas.
What I would like to hear about from him is that its time to depart from oil, gas, etc. and set free the suppressed new technologies that are ready to break through, like fusion, plasma tech and at least thorium nuclear power.

If he really is the saviour to bring in the great change that many hope for then its a good time to bring this forward.

There is much hope that RFK at his side will make bold moves sorting out the heath crises and vax impacts etc.
I keep hoping that Elon Musk stops fooling around with Mars and brain implants and use his influence to bring forward new solutions to energy generation. He must know about all that stuff.

[Alecs]

Posted by meat suit (here)
Yeah, whenever I hear Trump talking it seems to be based on really old fashioned ideas.
What I would like to hear about from him is that its time to depart from oil, gas, etc. and set free the suppressed new technologies that are ready to break through, like fusion, plasma tech and at least thorium nuclear power.

If he really is the saviour to bring in the great change that many hope for then its a good time to bring this forward.

Well, the high priority on rolling out AI, with its huge demand for energy, may "justify" the rollout of researched or hidden energy technologies. (Factions of the globalists may want more control before that happens.) I would not be surprised if the rollout occurs only after fracking greatly expands because, in part, fracking is the "solution" for the more immediate politics and dependent technologies.

[meat suit]

Replying to my post above, I want to add Wade Frazier's interesting posts on the energy subject starting from at least here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1633819

It is my hope that when the deep state falls we will quickly transition into a new area because so many surpressed technologies have been here for decades.🤞🤞

[mountain_jim]

So what ever happened to our resident anti-Trump troll - bojancan?

(last post 08/29)

Apparently Trump was the answer - at least for this election

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

My fault!

I called him out in post #2328. I had merely asked him, in the politest manner I could manage at the time, to hold off the stream of anti-Trump videos for just one second and provide an explanation, a piece of discourse, in his own words, why Trump wasn't the answer. He either couldn't do that, or wouldn't do that. Instead, he resorted to what they do on the left when they come up against a challenge or a criticism. Get all upset and offended, and throw accusations of hate speech around.

He hasn't been back since. Are you missing his video-spam?

[Paul D.]

The guy was in his 80 th year I seem to recall. Hopefully he's cut ties with P.A. & is getting a bit more peace now.

[T Smith]

Posted by Paul D. (here)
The guy was in his 80 th year I seem to recall. Hopefully he's cut ties with P.A. & is getting a bit more peace now.

Wherever he is, I wish him well.

[Dennis Leahy]

Yes, he brought forth a stream that was very emotion-based and full of ineffective arguments. (well, actually, I avoided watching most of them)

But, my dear Trump supporters, you also know that it is true that Trump Deification Syndrome is the problem at the other end of the spectrum. With much lower blood pressure, we should be able to examine all of the various issues that fall to the executive branch of the US government. If we can get away from the I love Trump/I hate Trump crap, we can talk about the issues. I gave up supporting any politician or political party and I belong to no party and never will again. I don't have to "support" Trump or like him or love him to be interested in the issues - he is the president elect of my country. That stupid game show (politicking/elections) is over for 4 years, so we can get back to issues rather than personalities.

[DNA]

I love Trump.
Effing love him.
And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
of embarrassment to your misguided ways.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by DNA (here)
I love Trump.
Effing love him.
And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
of embarrassment to your misguided ways.

" to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?

[DNA]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
I love Trump.
Effing love him.
And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
of embarrassment to your misguided ways.

" to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?

You talk a good game but it's a fantasy.
You don't deal with reality and like most liberals regardless of what you call yourself... You don't deal with what is really going on.

You think you can make the rules up and come up with a third or fourth choice that doesn't exist in what I refer to as hippy utopia.

In your hippy utopia Epstien and Diddy pedophile honey traps don't exist.
You don't understand the depths the intelligence agencies go to making sure all media, Hollywood talking heads and especially politicians are compromised to such an extent control will always be maintained.

Trump is a God send.
And he is real.
Unlike your hippy utopia fantasy land.

But,,, whatever gets you through the day brother