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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I love Trump.
    Effing love him.
    And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
    of embarrassment to your misguided ways.
    " to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?
    You talk a good game but it's a fantasy.
    You don't deal with reality and like most liberals regardless of what you call yourself... You don't deal with what is really going on.

    You think you can make the rules up and come up with a third or fourth choice that doesn't exist in what I refer to as hippy utopia.

    In your hippy utopia Epstien and Diddy pedophile honey traps don't exist.
    You don't understand the depths the intelligence agencies go to making sure all media, Hollywood talking heads and especially politicians are compromised to such an extent control will always be maintained.

    Trump is a God send.
    And he is real.
    Unlike your hippy utopia fantasy land.

    But,,, whatever gets you through the day brother

    Your attempted anti-Dennis rant really reminds me of screaming, melting-down, blue-haired Democrats. Oh sh!t, you're gonna cancel me. {sad face} You really wanna mention Trump's friend, Epstein, in defense of Trump? Trump HAD A PRIVATE PARTY WITH EPSTEIN AND A BUNCH OF GIRLS. And, Epstein was suicided under Trump's watch and the "client list" was NOT made public under Trump. (Convenient, or what?) Thank God that Julian Assange got set free, or else Trump would finish the job he started on him.

    I'm suggesting that your words expose your hero worship. Hero worship carries a lack of discernment, just like 'derangement syndrome' carries a lack of discernment. Trump is neither a demon nor a god. If you want to make an intelligent comment, focus on Trump's actions, policies, and proclamations, not how lovable he is.

    I watched people adore Obama for 8 years and cry when his term ended. It made no difference what he did, they wouldn't see it, just their hero, glib, articulate, suave, making a 3-point shot in a staged photo op. He did what he was told to do by the Deep State military-intelligence industrial complex and the CIA and Mossad and Israel. He threw whistleblowers in prison. He (his regime) deliberately fired missiles into a hospital in Syria where Doctors Without Borders were begging the US to stop. He (his regime), the CIA and Mossad teamed up to create/maintain alQaeda to fight one of Israel's enemies, Syria. He declared that all enemies of Israel were enemies of the USA. He (and Hillary) destroyed Libya and murdered its head of state, and would have completely destroyed Syria if Russia hadn't intervened (and wiped out most of alQaeda in a weekend.) Absolutely no deed, no policy mattered to the Obama worshipers, they still loved him. They love him. Sound familiar?

    Focus on issues, not personality - and don't embarrass yourself with delusions about me. Maybe start a thread, "Dennis' Hippie Utopia", to talk about your fantasies about what I'm thinking, but this thread is about Trump, and specifically the negative aspects of his ideas, policies, and actions that would lead to the conclusion that Trump "wasn't the answer" (a nebulous concept.) Yes, it is much, much, much easier for me to point out the negative actions/deeds of Trump than to find something to laud, but it was(is) true for Biden, Obama, both Bushs and Clinton too. I didn't love any of them, I examined their deeds. Try it.


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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    DNA/Marcus,


    I notice that today is your 52nd birthday. Happy Birthday! May you enjoy mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual health for as long as you want to hang out on Earth. I also note that you mentioned that your father died recently, and my condolences to you. Losing a parent (whether you were 'on the same page' or not) is huge, and I wish you both peace.


    You're not my enemy. We simply disagree on some things (and agree on others.) I sense that you are sincere.


    On a lighter note, I will probably write a song called, "Hippie Utopia." Not to hurt your feelings, but I find that hilarious.


    Enjoy your birthday!


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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I love Trump.
    Effing love him.
    And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
    of embarrassment to your misguided ways.
    " to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?
    You talk a good game but it's a fantasy.
    You don't deal with reality and like most liberals regardless of what you call yourself... You don't deal with what is really going on.

    You think you can make the rules up and come up with a third or fourth choice that doesn't exist in what I refer to as hippy utopia.

    In your hippy utopia Epstien and Diddy pedophile honey traps don't exist.
    You don't understand the depths the intelligence agencies go to making sure all media, Hollywood talking heads and especially politicians are compromised to such an extent control will always be maintained.

    Trump is a God send.
    And he is real.
    Unlike your hippy utopia fantasy land.

    But,,, whatever gets you through the day brother

    ....You really wanna mention Trump's friend, Epstein, in defense of Trump? Trump HAD A PRIVATE PARTY WITH EPSTEIN AND A BUNCH OF GIRLS. And, Epstein was suicided under Trump's watch and the "client list" was NOT made public under Trump. (Convenient, or what?) Thank God that Julian Assange got set free, or else Trump would finish the job he started on him.
    Associating Trump with Epstein is a distraction, IMO. I'm not convinced Trump has anything whatsoever to do with Epstein's dark underworld, regardless of the so-called "damning" one minute NBC clip of Trump conversing with Epstein during a party thrown at Mar a Lago attended by wealthy billionaires over thirty years ago. So he's guilty of big-d!cking it, seeking attention and admiration from high society? That proves nothing other than the behavior of a man who enjoys his ego stroked. Charge him with that if you must (does anyone really think otherwise of Trump?); but until somebody shows me more compelling evidence to the contrary, placing Trump on the Epstein list is a stretch.

    Your points about hero worship are taken. I don't necessarily disagree, but I do see a pattern in your suspicions and skepticism that speaks more to faulting and criticizing the clean-up crew of a hoarder's lair who have failed to make prestine every room of a condemned residence piled to the ceilings with junk.

    Clearing the premises of trash, including the rubbish blocking the pathways and halls into more rooms stuffed with trash to the ceilings, is a process. I wouldn't call it a farce, or more of the same, just because every room hasn't been cleared. I'm happy to engage in critical discourse with anyone who disagrees with the cleanup process, or even the priority of what needs clearing, and we should definitely focus on that. But I wouldn't necessarily say those applauding the effort writ large are blind worshipers of the process. Just my two cents... carry on
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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I love Trump.
    Effing love him.
    And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
    of embarrassment to your misguided ways.
    " to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?
    You talk a good game but it's a fantasy.
    You don't deal with reality and like most liberals regardless of what you call yourself... You don't deal with what is really going on.

    You think you can make the rules up and come up with a third or fourth choice that doesn't exist in what I refer to as hippy utopia.

    In your hippy utopia Epstien and Diddy pedophile honey traps don't exist.
    You don't understand the depths the intelligence agencies go to making sure all media, Hollywood talking heads and especially politicians are compromised to such an extent control will always be maintained.

    Trump is a God send.
    And he is real.
    Unlike your hippy utopia fantasy land.

    But,,, whatever gets you through the day brother

    Your attempted anti-Dennis rant really reminds me of screaming, melting-down, blue-haired Democrats. Oh sh!t, you're gonna cancel me. {sad face} You really wanna mention Trump's friend, Epstein, in defense of Trump? Trump HAD A PRIVATE PARTY WITH EPSTEIN AND A BUNCH OF GIRLS. And, Epstein was suicided under Trump's watch and the "client list" was NOT made public under Trump. (Convenient, or what?) Thank God that Julian Assange got set free, or else Trump would finish the job he started on him.

    I'm suggesting that your words expose your hero worship. Hero worship carries a lack of discernment, just like 'derangement syndrome' carries a lack of discernment. Trump is neither a demon nor a god. If you want to make an intelligent comment, focus on Trump's actions, policies, and proclamations, not how lovable he is.

    I watched people adore Obama for 8 years and cry when his term ended. It made no difference what he did, they wouldn't see it, just their hero, glib, articulate, suave, making a 3-point shot in a staged photo op. He did what he was told to do by the Deep State military-intelligence industrial complex and the CIA and Mossad and Israel. He threw whistleblowers in prison. He (his regime) deliberately fired missiles into a hospital in Syria where Doctors Without Borders were begging the US to stop. He (his regime), the CIA and Mossad teamed up to create/maintain alQaeda to fight one of Israel's enemies, Syria. He declared that all enemies of Israel were enemies of the USA. He (and Hillary) destroyed Libya and murdered its head of state, and would have completely destroyed Syria if Russia hadn't intervened (and wiped out most of alQaeda in a weekend.) Absolutely no deed, no policy mattered to the Obama worshipers, they still loved him. They love him. Sound familiar?

    Focus on issues, not personality - and don't embarrass yourself with delusions about me. Maybe start a thread, "Dennis' Hippie Utopia", to talk about your fantasies about what I'm thinking, but this thread is about Trump, and specifically the negative aspects of his ideas, policies, and actions that would lead to the conclusion that Trump "wasn't the answer" (a nebulous concept.) Yes, it is much, much, much easier for me to point out the negative actions/deeds of Trump than to find something to laud, but it was(is) true for Biden, Obama, both Bushs and Clinton too. I didn't love any of them, I examined their deeds. Try it.
    Biden, Bush1, Bush2, Clinton1, Clinton2, Obama and even Mitt Romney and John McCain all were united in their solidarity hating and despising Trump.
    The lying, controlled main stream media didn't just attack Trump. They didn't just dedicate 10% of their air time to attacking Trump. It was all they did.
    The news agencies outed themselves as a controlled narrative and millions of people saw the truth because of that.

    Epstien was outed and arrested under Trump.
    What more do you want from the guy.
    He's not God.
    He strangled the pipe line of human trafficking and made it an issue where everyone else tried denying its existence.

    Do I to take your anti-Trump posts,,, personally?
    Yeah
    But there was a time on this forum when it was decidedly liberal and anti-trump leaning.
    So much so that many Trump supporters were ran off the forum.
    Two people were a constant in those days.
    Showing up like the boogy man anytime some one was pro Trump.
    Fred/Gracy and you.

    I was enjoying what turned out to be a year and a half absence from the forum. Watching painfully as this was going on.
    Over and over again folks harassed by the Fred/Gracy slash Dennis anti-Trump rhetoric.

    You've been doing it for years.

    You couch your disdain in whatever manner the political climate of the forum will tolerate. But it's always there.
    Disdain.

    Julian Assange was asked once why he didn't publish any negative Trump whistle blower information. He said it was because there wasn't any.

    Fred was an anti-Trumper always disguising his hatred in a reasonable pseudo intellectual presentation.
    I saw through what Fred was doing.
    I saw through him and I see through you.
    You don't fool me.

    You're a never Trumper.
    The guy could cure cancer, release anti-grav technology and offer you a handy and you would still find reasons to hate the guy.

    I've mentioned some things you are in denial about but the main thing would be this.
    The depopulation agenda.
    The Globalists want to kill us.
    Trump knows this and wants to save us.

    Trump is literally trying to save our lives at the possible expense of his own and his family.
    Isn't that reason enough to give the guy a chance and get off his balls for a second?
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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I love Trump.
    Effing love him.
    And to all the a-holes who posted anti-Trump rhetoric may this thread live on as a testement
    of embarrassment to your misguided ways.
    " to your misguided ways." Indeed. Trump Deification Syndrome?
    You talk a good game but it's a fantasy.
    You don't deal with reality and like most liberals regardless of what you call yourself... You don't deal with what is really going on.

    You think you can make the rules up and come up with a third or fourth choice that doesn't exist in what I refer to as hippy utopia.

    In your hippy utopia Epstien and Diddy pedophile honey traps don't exist.
    You don't understand the depths the intelligence agencies go to making sure all media, Hollywood talking heads and especially politicians are compromised to such an extent control will always be maintained.

    Trump is a God send.
    And he is real.
    Unlike your hippy utopia fantasy land.

    But,,, whatever gets you through the day brother

    Your attempted anti-Dennis rant really reminds me of screaming, melting-down, blue-haired Democrats. Oh sh!t, you're gonna cancel me. {sad face} You really wanna mention Trump's friend, Epstein, in defense of Trump? Trump HAD A PRIVATE PARTY WITH EPSTEIN AND A BUNCH OF GIRLS. And, Epstein was suicided under Trump's watch and the "client list" was NOT made public under Trump. (Convenient, or what?) Thank God that Julian Assange got set free, or else Trump would finish the job he started on him.

    I'm suggesting that your words expose your hero worship. Hero worship carries a lack of discernment, just like 'derangement syndrome' carries a lack of discernment. Trump is neither a demon nor a god. If you want to make an intelligent comment, focus on Trump's actions, policies, and proclamations, not how lovable he is.

    I watched people adore Obama for 8 years and cry when his term ended. It made no difference what he did, they wouldn't see it, just their hero, glib, articulate, suave, making a 3-point shot in a staged photo op. He did what he was told to do by the Deep State military-intelligence industrial complex and the CIA and Mossad and Israel. He threw whistleblowers in prison. He (his regime) deliberately fired missiles into a hospital in Syria where Doctors Without Borders were begging the US to stop. He (his regime), the CIA and Mossad teamed up to create/maintain alQaeda to fight one of Israel's enemies, Syria. He declared that all enemies of Israel were enemies of the USA. He (and Hillary) destroyed Libya and murdered its head of state, and would have completely destroyed Syria if Russia hadn't intervened (and wiped out most of alQaeda in a weekend.) Absolutely no deed, no policy mattered to the Obama worshipers, they still loved him. They love him. Sound familiar?

    Focus on issues, not personality - and don't embarrass yourself with delusions about me. Maybe start a thread, "Dennis' Hippie Utopia", to talk about your fantasies about what I'm thinking, but this thread is about Trump, and specifically the negative aspects of his ideas, policies, and actions that would lead to the conclusion that Trump "wasn't the answer" (a nebulous concept.) Yes, it is much, much, much easier for me to point out the negative actions/deeds of Trump than to find something to laud, but it was(is) true for Biden, Obama, both Bushs and Clinton too. I didn't love any of them, I examined their deeds. Try it.
    Biden, Bush1, Bush2, Clinton1, Clinton2, Obama and even Mitt Romney and John McCain all were united in their solidarity hating and despising Trump.
    The lying, controlled main stream media didn't just attack Trump. They didn't just dedicate 10% of their air time to attacking Trump. It was all they did.
    The news agencies outed themselves as a controlled narrative and millions of people saw the truth because of that.

    Epstien was outed and arrested under Trump.
    What more do you want from the guy.
    He's not God.
    He strangled the pipe line of human trafficking and made it an issue where everyone else tried denying its existence.

    Do I to take your anti-Trump posts,,, personally?
    Yeah
    But there was a time on this forum when it was decidedly liberal and anti-trump leaning.
    So much so that many Trump supporters were ran off the forum.
    Two people were a constant in those days.
    Showing up like the boogy man anytime some one was pro Trump.
    Fred/Gracy and you.

    I was enjoying what turned out to be a year and a half absence from the forum. Watching painfully as this was going on.
    Over and over again folks harassed by the Fred/Gracy slash Dennis anti-Trump rhetoric.

    You've been doing it for years.

    You couch your disdain in whatever manner the political climate of the forum will tolerate. But it's always there.
    Disdain.

    Julian Assange was asked once why he didn't publish any negative Trump whistle blower information. He said it was because there wasn't any.

    Fred was an anti-Trumper always disguising his hatred in a reasonable pseudo intellectual presentation.
    I saw through what Fred was doing.
    I saw through him and I see through you.
    You don't fool me.

    You're a never Trumper.
    The guy could cure cancer, release anti-grav technology and offer you a handy and you would still find reasons to hate the guy.

    I've mentioned some things you are in denial about but the main thing would be this.
    The depopulation agenda.
    The Globalists want to kill us.
    Trump knows this and wants to save us.

    Trump is literally trying to save our lives at the possible expense of his own and his family.
    Isn't that reason enough to give the guy a chance and get off his balls for a second?
    Truly, it is almost unbelievable what President Trump has been through in his one life. His dedication, will and energy for the United States of America, seems limitless. He is fearless in the face of (many) adversaries and lives life BIG. Thankfully he also has a sense of humor...
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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Again, there are several threads on Avalon to express your undying dedication to Donald Trump. This thread was supposed to be observations of Trump that would lead to the conclusion that he's "not the answer." So, pro-Trump adulation is kinda out of place in this thread, don't you think?

    I'd like to introduce you to the concept of being an observer, rather than a partisan. An observer can examine reality as it is, and report observations. A partisan emotes feelings and provides excuses and maybe even attacks the messenger and refuses to simply be an observer.


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    ...
    Biden, Bush1, Bush2, Clinton1, Clinton2, Obama and even Mitt Romney and John McCain all were united in their solidarity hating and despising Trump.
    The lying, controlled main stream media didn't just attack Trump. They didn't just dedicate 10% of their air time to attacking Trump. It was all they did.
    The news agencies outed themselves as a controlled narrative and millions of people saw the truth because of that.
    Who cares whether the Deep State-aligned miscreants liked Trump or not? Yes, the corporate media (really, it's the 5 mega-corporate media moguls) hates Trump and were relentlessly negative and petty and lying scum - criminally liable for libel, I'd say. (I'd like to see Rachel Maddow handed a long prison sentence, for example - maybe be roomies/cellmates with Hillary for the Steele dossier.) That's an observation of reality. To then jump into partisanship and conclude that because the media moguls hate Trump, then abracadabra, Trump must really be a demigod, perfect, wise in all things -and his farts don't stink? That's partisan "logic."

    The Democrats and media moguls' mainscream media NEVER hammered away at Trump's thoughts, words, and deeds that were in full alignment with theirs: endless wars, endless support for the military-intelligence industrial complex, carte blanche support for Israel, Satanyahoo, and Zionism.

    Partisans say Trump started no wars. Observers note that Trump continued and maintained wars in Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, and Russia, broke the US record for military spending and broke the record for a president-brokered arms deal, to Saudi Arabia. Observers note John Perkins's observations of modern war - that the first phase is always monetary war (sanctions, freezing assets, etc.), followed by regime change ops (CIA/Deep State), followed by 'hot' war (the MIC.)


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Epstien was outed and arrested under Trump.
    What more do you want from the guy.
    He's not God.
    He strangled the pipe line of human trafficking and made it an issue where everyone else tried denying its existence.
    He was snuffed out under Trump's watch, and Trump shrugged it off casually. "he strangled the pipeline" Yes, strangled is right - dead men don't talk. A partisan notes that Biden didn't release the list of 'elite' pedophiles or tapes to prove who the monsters are, and conveniently leaves out the part where Trump's administration was in charge when the evidence was gathered... and not released (and none of the child rapers were outed.) What more do I want from the guy? Well, not a Zionist-cuddling response of snuffing the Mossad/CIA blackmail asset, hiding the data, and then holding the promise of the release of data like a carrot, for electioneering.


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Do I to take your anti-Trump posts,,, personally?
    Yeah
    But there was a time on this forum when it was decidedly liberal and anti-trump leaning.
    So much so that many Trump supporters were ran off the forum.
    Two people were a constant in those days.
    Showing up like the boogy man anytime some one was pro Trump.
    Fred/Gracy and you.
    I don't apologize for publishing observations, observations that were evidently so cognitive dissonance shattering that a few partisans abandoned this forum as a Trump-the-demigod cheerleading app. (This is a fantasy.) If I had said that Trump is a black lesbian woman, would that be a reason for someone to run away? Or, do you think maybe that Trump partisans get their panties in a twist when an actual observation is made about one of Trump's ideas, actions, or policies that is bad/wrong/criminal and they simply do not want to face the truth?

    When torture was codified into the law of the land under Obama, I was shocked, appalled, disgusted, and embarrassed to be an American citizen. I spoke up, loudly, and holy sh!t did it ever piss off the Dem partisans/Obama the demigod sycophants.

    Then, in 2015, campaigning for the presidency, Trump was asked about torture. Do you remember what he said? He said he would not only torture prisoners, but he would take away restrictions on torture. Go listen to the video. So, I knew in 2015 that Trump wasn't just a two-bit snarky entertainer, arrogant, and exhibiting a lack of verbal skills and intelligence, but (like Obama and the Deep State behind him) was morally bankrupt and in lockstep with the Deep State. So, forgive me for not jumping on the "Trump is a good man" bandwagon. I know better, and could see it 10 years ago. Remember Gina Haspel and the torture exposed at Abu Ghraib, done by Haspel and CIA/Deep State friends? Trump then made her the CIA director. Trump endorsed and supported the Deep State's torture program. That's a bit more serious than using too much orange tint in the spray tan, don't you think?

    Whatever Fred wrote here shouldn't have bothered you if you knew he was wrong, like Trump being a black lesbian. If it was just laughable BS like the corporate media was pumping, you could have easily laughed it off. I don't even remember what Fred had to say, but it obviously stayed with you and bothered you. My guess is that he must have hit some of your cognitive dissonance areas.

    Do note when trying to lump me in with Fred that I am publishing my observations using my real name, my real photo, and even the real State I live in - not using a fantasy moniker and avatar, like "DNA" or "Gracy."


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I was enjoying what turned out to be a year and a half absence from the forum. Watching painfully as this was going on.
    Over and over again folks harassed by the Fred/Gracy slash Dennis anti-Trump rhetoric.

    You've been doing it for years.

    You couch your disdain in whatever manner the political climate of the forum will tolerate. But it's always there.
    Disdain.
    Well, I can almost agree with you because it is true that I have been making my observations public for a long time, and pretty much all of my political observations have shone a light on something negative. I am the ONLY person that I personally know that observed the Bill Clinton regime allowing the consolidation of mass corporate media and knew it was bad for the ordinary citizens and knew it would choke out the truth being broadcast. No one that I talked to got it and probably that caused some people to cancel me. I know that when I published my observations about Obama and torture and imprisoning whistleblowers, my Democrat friends became a lot less interested in anything else that I observed and published. How dare I treat Obama with disdain! How dare I not adore and laud Obama, for he was the one!

    On this forum, there have been no Biden supporters (and I disagreed with the thread that tried to make Biden the worst president ever, when I knew it was Obama - the most effective spokesmodel for the Deep State, ever.) So, I haven't bothered much with scourging Biden at the pillar - he's done a good job of that himself.

    The last US president that wasn't controlled by the Deep State was JFK, and when they can't control you, they kill you. The Deep State doesn't care if a politician is a Democrat or a Republican, they will work with either. They are working with Biden Harris now (or whoever in the DNC is running the show), and will transfer over seamlessly to Trump next. The Democrats/DNC gang tried to kill Trump (and sadly, I still have an awful feeling that they will succeed.) The Deep State loves Trump - it makes no difference at all that Trump has been saying anti-Deep State nebulous rhetoric, they love him. So does the US military. It's a mistake to think the military-intelligence industrial complex wants endless war for the sake of war; they want money. As long as Trump approves a trillion dollars in the budget, for the military, the MIC death-eaters make their money.


    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    Julian Assange was asked once why he didn't publish any negative Trump whistle blower information. He said it was because there wasn't any.
    I'm not sure why you mentioned that, nor do I know about its veracity, nor the context of the comment. I hope you're not presenting that as some sort of proof that Trump was a good guy, fighting against the Deep State while effectively silencing (and imprisoning) the top anti-corruption whistleblower in history. Fer christ's sake, man! Can we please stop pretending that Trump silencing and nearly killing Assange was good? Observations, not partisanship.

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    Fred was an anti-Trumper always disguising his hatred in a reasonable pseudo intellectual presentation.
    I saw through what Fred was doing.
    I saw through him and I see through you.
    You don't fool me.

    You're a never Trumper.
    The guy could cure cancer, release anti-grav technology and offer you a handy and you would still find reasons to hate the guy.
    There you go again, "hate the guy." Do you really have to morph an observation of a negative action/policy into "hate?" Isn't that disingenuous? Hate clouds judgment - I don't hate Trump, I'm observing his actions and listening to his words (like his frothing-at-the-mouth support for the mass murdering Zionazis), and reporting my observations.

    Is Clayton Morris also a Trump hater? Did you see his face when he realized that Trump was surrounding himself with Arab/Muslim-hating Zionists?

    As I said, Trump outed himself as an unhinged thug without ethics or morality in 2015 when he hissed about how he not only supported torture, he would turn it up to 11. So yeah, I've observed his behavior for a long time.

    Quote Posted by DNA (here)
    I've mentioned some things you are in denial about but the main thing would be this.
    The depopulation agenda.
    The Globalists want to kill us.
    Trump knows this and wants to save us.

    Trump is literally trying to save our lives at the possible expense of his own and his family.
    Isn't that reason enough to give the guy a chance and get off his balls for a second?
    You're wrong again. You have no idea what I recognize and what I'm "in denial of." You don't know me, and you change the subject - to me, personally - whenever one of my observations hits a tender spot in your cognitive dissonance.

    Globalists: are you aware that the globalists are already here and well established, and that there is only one, ONE, network of all the world's globalist corporations? I call it the Global Corporate Network. Have you ever seen the brilliant diagram that shows not just all the corporate entities but also the interplay between corporations within the network? Take a look - it's a real eye opener. Help or hurt one corporation, and it helps or hurts myriad connected/allied/networked corporations. It's a Gordian knot. There is no way to stop globalism without destroying the economy that is based on the Global Corporate Network. Tariffs are meaningless if the US doesn't have the manufacturing capabilities for the tariff-taxed items (and the government gets the tariff money while the people pay higher prices.) So no, Trump isn't some brilliant guy who's going to bring down globalism - he can't make a dent.

    I don't believe that the globalists want to kill us, defining "globalists" as the corporations and CEOs in the Global Corporate Network. They want us to buy the sh!t they are selling, and we buy a lot less when we are dead. To those globalists, we are "customers." The group of elites that want 90% of us dead are not the ones who count on us buying.


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    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    Again, there are several threads on Avalon to express your undying dedication to Donald Trump. This thread was supposed to be observations of Trump that would lead to the conclusion that he's "not the answer." So, pro-Trump adulation is kinda out of place in this thread, don't you think?

    The past eight years Trump supporters have been told f#ck you at every turn.
    The news media, late night pseudo comedy news shows, movies, TV shows, social media was a big one where we were fact checked, shadow banned, censored.
    We were chastised and ostracized by our co-workers and friends.
    I was ostracized by both parents who both died shortly there after. And this isn't a uncommon thing for many of the folks posting here.
    So given the over all unfriendliness of the world. The constant gas lighting and disparaging comments is it fair that the one house we think we could come to for refuge is it fair there is this big middle finger of a thread called "Trump is not the answer"?

    It stings less now after this 2024 election.
    Now? It's not as big of a deal. Winning takes the sting out.
    And especially not if Trump actually takes office.
    Personally though I don't think he will.
    The Deep State have two months to figure out a counter.
    They have no shame.



    Quote Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
    I'd like to introduce you to the concept of being an observer, rather than a partisan. An observer can examine reality as it is, and report observations. A partisan emotes feelings and provides excuses and maybe even attacks the messenger and refuses to simply be an observer.
    LOL
    That might make sense if we had equal understanding of what was/is going on.
    In my opinion you don't know jack sh!t.
    If you did you wouldn't make such observations.
    Watch the interview of Anneka Lucas where she describes how human trafficking works from the inside as a six to eleven year old child.

    Read the work of Sue Arrigo who also describes human trafficking. How it is used regularly in congress and the judicial system.
    How Andrew Brietbart called John Podesta the biggest pedophile on the planet and was dead a year later.
    How Wikileaks exposed the pizzagate language in the Hillary-Podesta emails.

    You consider all of this stuff a possibility.
    Not reality.
    Otherwise you would realize how bad our reality is and show more gratitude for the steps in a positive direction rather than pounding your fist like a petulant child not getting the hippy utopia you think you are privileged for.



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    Who cares whether the Deep State-aligned miscreants liked Trump or not? Yes, the corporate media (really, it's the 5 mega-corporate media moguls) hates Trump and were relentlessly negative and petty and lying scum - criminally liable for libel, I'd say. (I'd like to see Rachel Maddow handed a long prison sentence, for example - maybe be roomies/cellmates with Hillary for the Steele dossier.) That's an observation of reality. To then jump into partisanship and conclude that because the media moguls hate Trump, then abracadabra, Trump must really be a demigod, perfect, wise in all things -and his farts don't stink? That's partisan "logic."

    The Democrats and media moguls' mainscream media NEVER hammered away at Trump's thoughts, words, and deeds that were in full alignment with theirs: endless wars, endless support for the military-intelligence industrial complex, carte blanche support for Israel, Satanyahoo, and Zionism.

    Partisans say Trump started no wars. Observers note that Trump continued and maintained wars in Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Yemen, Somalia, and Russia, broke the US record for military spending and broke the record for a president-brokered arms deal, to Saudi Arabia. Observers note John Perkins's observations of modern war - that the first phase is always monetary war (sanctions, freezing assets, etc.), followed by regime change ops (CIA/Deep State), followed by 'hot' war (the MIC.)
    We don't even know if Trump understood 9/11. The guy was lost and led around by the worst of the worst. And yet he still did amazing things. More than honestly I could have ever hoped for.
    Again. You have no shame in your demands.
    Your demands seem detached from reality at times.


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    He was snuffed out under Trump's watch, and Trump shrugged it off casually. "he strangled the pipeline" Yes, strangled is right - dead men don't talk. A partisan notes that Biden didn't release the list of 'elite' pedophiles or tapes to prove who the monsters are, and conveniently leaves out the part where Trump's administration was in charge when the evidence was gathered... and not released (and none of the child rapers were outed.) What more do I want from the guy? Well, not a Zionist-cuddling response of snuffing the Mossad/CIA blackmail asset, hiding the data, and then holding the promise of the release of data like a carrot, for electioneering.

    Trump thought he had a winner AG in Jeff Sessions. Then Sessions was blackmailed by the intelligence agencies because as it turns out he probably had spent time in the KKK in his youth. So as Sessions failed to do any prosecuting like with Epstien, Trump got rid of him and replaced him with William Barr.
    This also showed Trump's naivity.
    Barr was not much better than Sessions.
    Did Barr actually arrest Epstien?
    Yes.
    But Barr also signed off on the ludicrous Epstien hung himself B.S.
    And refused to prosecute the Epstien client list.
    But.... Now Trump has learned and is nominating Matt Gaetz for Attorney General.
    This is quite the step up and shows Trump is learning from past mistakes.

    But the most a president can do is put the people in place to get things done.
    FYI A President isn't God.


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    I don't apologize for publishing observations, observations that were evidently so cognitive dissonance shattering that a few partisans abandoned this forum as a Trump-the-demigod cheerleading app. (This is a fantasy.) If I had said that Trump is a black lesbian woman, would that be a reason for someone to run away? Or, do you think maybe that Trump partisans get their panties in a twist when an actual observation is made about one of Trump's ideas, actions, or policies that is bad/wrong/criminal and they simply do not want to face the truth?

    When torture was codified into the law of the land under Obama, I was shocked, appalled, disgusted, and embarrassed to be an American citizen. I spoke up, loudly, and holy sh!t did it ever piss off the Dem partisans/Obama the demigod sycophants.

    Then, in 2015, campaigning for the presidency, Trump was asked about torture. Do you remember what he said? He said he would not only torture prisoners, but he would take away restrictions on torture. Go listen to the video. So, I knew in 2015 that Trump wasn't just a two-bit snarky entertainer, arrogant, and exhibiting a lack of verbal skills and intelligence, but (like Obama and the Deep State behind him) was morally bankrupt and in lockstep with the Deep State. So, forgive me for not jumping on the "Trump is a good man" bandwagon. I know better, and could see it 10 years ago. Remember Gina Haspel and the torture exposed at Abu Ghraib, done by Haspel and CIA/Deep State friends? Trump then made her the CIA director. Trump endorsed and supported the Deep State's torture program. That's a bit more serious than using too much orange tint in the spray tan, don't you think?

    Whatever Fred wrote here shouldn't have bothered you if you knew he was wrong, like Trump being a black lesbian. If it was just laughable BS like the corporate media was pumping, you could have easily laughed it off. I don't even remember what Fred had to say, but it obviously stayed with you and bothered you. My guess is that he must have hit some of your cognitive dissonance areas.

    Do note when trying to lump me in with Fred that I am publishing my observations using my real name, my real photo, and even the real State I live in - not using a fantasy moniker and avatar, like "DNA" or "Gracy."
    You and Fred don't use truth to intimidate.
    You use your lack of a life to write more than anyone wants to read much less respond to.
    No one wants a book of B.S. thrown at them any time they have something positive to say about Trump.

    You're not insightful you're venomous, looking for a way to make the poison palatable.

    Maybe you're real and maybe you're not Dennis.
    Have you ever met anyone on this forum face to face? Or at least talked to them on the phone? You could be fake as Gracy for all I know.

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    Well, I can almost agree with you because it is true that I have been making my observations public for a long time, and pretty much all of my political observations have shone a light on something negative. I am the ONLY person that I personally know that observed the Bill Clinton regime allowing the consolidation of mass corporate media and knew it was bad for the ordinary citizens and knew it would choke out the truth being broadcast. No one that I talked to got it and probably that caused some people to cancel me. I know that when I published my observations about Obama and torture and imprisoning whistleblowers, my Democrat friends became a lot less interested in anything else that I observed and published. How dare I treat Obama with disdain! How dare I not adore and laud Obama, for he was the one!

    On this forum, there have been no Biden supporters (and I disagreed with the thread that tried to make Biden the worst president ever, when I knew it was Obama - the most effective spokesmodel for the Deep State, ever.) So, I haven't bothered much with scourging Biden at the pillar - he's done a good job of that himself.

    The last US president that wasn't controlled by the Deep State was JFK, and when they can't control you, they kill you. The Deep State doesn't care if a politician is a Democrat or a Republican, they will work with either. They are working with Biden Harris now (or whoever in the DNC is running the show), and will transfer over seamlessly to Trump next. The Democrats/DNC gang tried to kill Trump (and sadly, I still have an awful feeling that they will succeed.) The Deep State loves Trump - it makes no difference at all that Trump has been saying anti-Deep State nebulous rhetoric, they love him. So does the US military. It's a mistake to think the military-intelligence industrial complex wants endless war for the sake of war; they want money. As long as Trump approves a trillion dollars in the budget, for the military, the MIC death-eaters make their money.
    The last President who was not controlled by the Deep State was not JFK. It was Donald Trump. Is Donald Trump
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    And why wouldn't Trump be the solution? Trump showed he could win a second time. What happens in France is that there isn't a day that goes by without people talking about Trump. I've heard that Trump is atypical, that's what I like about him. This kind of personality in reality is outside the system, but when you are a billionaire, you can live these wildest dreams and foil the traps of these enemies. Victory is what makes you stronger, but to what extent and for how long?
    Trump is not the solution?, even this discussion will have been a challenge for Trump, to make you think the opposite that Trump could become the solution to the problem of globalization?


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    I wish you well, "DNA."


    I'll make that my last attempt to debate with you, about anything. Flaming and ad hominem attacks are the desperate moves of someone incapable of debate. Halo polishing is sycophantic, but making up heroic future actions to attribute to your hero is really kinda pathetic. I recommend that you put me on "ignore" in the forum; I'm doing the same for you.


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    Trump Versus DC Elite; US Zaluzhny Plan Zelensky Ouster, Ukraine Nuclear Plan;Russia Storms Kupiansk
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    If Alexander Mercouris is correct in his assumptions there will be many thrills and spills ahead for Donald Trump and his new Cabinet.

    What seems obvious is that DJT has spent much time in plotting his strategy for a more successful second term and I hope he gets the opportunity to show that he can raise the bar of the lives of the entire American nation for the better, particularly as he faced obstacles at every turn last time round. But I do have grave concerns about Palestine, given his fervant support for the zionist regime and the cavalier way he despatched Qasem Soleimani, likely to have been influenced by Israel although I'm just surmising; but then it could be argued that it was the zionist influence which allowed him to win the election. Who knows? In this insane world, anything is possible . . .
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    This scandal is out in open all over... in EU and all around they were talking about Trump regime...
    Good job they did... Trump said! And they bombed only residential aria... children and women died by Trump hands...
    Disgusting!!!!


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    Attack was very effective!!! Trump's words!!! Dead children and women!!!!



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    I always like... how it is everyone else's fault but his own. That is old one as ever...Don the Trump!!!!
    Oh No... he also did not KNOW... that mostly, children and women were buried under the rubble ... because of bombing... he didn't want to know... what if... He successfully did his job!!! Peaceful president!!!! For sure!

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    Different topic now...

    This evening... I was listening Clyde Lewis.. /Ground Zero/... the topic/thematic was about King Charles offer the United States a spot in the British Commonwealth... very intriguing isn't it????

    Clyde was having as a guest author Tim Cohen... It was very interesting debate and also controverzing talking with callers around the US into the show.. all were very negative about that... to be part in CW...
    As we already know all conspiracies around Antichrist... who would be etc... these moments are very important for people... to really recognize the real truth behind all suspicious behaviour of those above... presidents, Kings etc... and what kind of consequences will be for humanity!

    Also about these conflicts in the East, Ukraine, Africa etc... technocrats, AI, OWO etc...
    I am wondering what is up with Charles... and what is up with Trump???? I know, that Charles is a pen friend with Melania for 25years.. she and Trump was also friends with Andrew.. and all Epstein circle...

    I am adding here interesting video with author Tim Cohen..

    AntiChrist's Global Governance, Israel's National Crucifixion, and Coming Books.


    Prophecy House, where you may obtain my books, as well as related teaching and other materials, such as "The AntiChrist and a Cup of Tea" book (new 2nd edition), the "North Korea, Iran, and the Coming World War: Behold a Red Horse" book, etc.: https://www.prophecyhouse.com

    PLEASE ACTIVELY SHARE THE LINK TO THIS INTERVIEW, AND THE INTERVIEW ITSELF, WITH ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES, AS THERE IS LITERALLY NOWHERE ELSE TO GET THIS UNDERSTANDING AND LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE. SHARING THE LINK IS NECESSARY, AS I AM HEAVILY CENSORED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY IN SEARCHES. (The link or URL enables one to go directly to the interview, without searching or relying upon an algorithm's recommendation.)

    DESCRIPTION: Interview with Janie DuVall on King Charles III as THE foretold AntiChrist of biblical apocalyptic prophecy, the Coming national crucifixion of Israel, and major coming books, recorded on August 20, 2024. EVERYONE IN THE WORLD, NEEDS TO FULLY HEAR THIS, now!

    ERRATA (important):
    Wales adopted red dragon as its national symbol in 1953, not 1958; the latter year is when QEII "created" Charles as Prince of Wales
    The Irish harp was NOT portrayed on Titus' arch, though it IS allegedly modeled on Israel's Davidic harp.
    The set of two medallions (coins) with 666 (on the certificate, and on the edge of each medallion), bears the Badge of the Black Prince or that of the Prince of Darkness, NOT the dragon of wales, besides Charles' head..

    I actually first saw 1987's "Prince of Darkness" movie at Chapel Hills Mall in Colorado Springs--though I also watched movies, including that one a second time if memory serves, at Buckingham Square Mall in Aurora, Colorado.

    The "X-lightning" captured on film at Charles' July 1969 investiture as Satan's Prince, actually transpired as the queen placed the ermine mantle over Charles' shoulders, with her also having just placed the crown on his head. The 2nd edition documents the live reel and time segment where one may see the flash as it occurs, but the individual frames showing the event are NOT available as stills from the British Pathe site. (One must see them in the reel itself, as it is played.)
    The advertisement is Janie DuVall's, NOT mine.

    At one point I said "victim of suffocation," but meant "victim of crucifixion."
    Where I said, "later in Luke," I meant / should have said, "later in John," when speaking of Yeshua's age.
    Where I said, "When Passover would have fallen on a Wednesday rather than a Thursday or a Friday," I should only have said "on a Thursday rather than a Friday or a Saturday," or I should have said "When the Passover lambs were being slaughtered on...." The fourth-day crucifixion transpired on the Day of Preparation for the Passover, with the Passover meal itself being consumed at evening the following day (i.e., Thursday evening or the evening of the fifth day of the week, by the biblical reckoning).

    At one point I said, "to my 'Iran, North Korea, and the Coming World War' book," but meant to say, "to my 'North Korea, Iran, and the Coming World War' book." (I have some dyslexia, due to past physical trauma.)

    Where I stated, "It was actually a Hyksos pharaoh who enslaved ancient Egypt," I meant "ancient Israel." (I did clarify that subsequently, but it needs to be very clear.) Likewise, where I state, "to those who read my [coming] book 'Messiah, History, and the Tribulation Period,'" I meant my coming book on the EXODUS from ancient Egypt, NOT my coming MHT multi-volume series, which is a separate undertaking and work, though the latter does touch on the matter of the Hyksos (Hebrew-speaking Edomites).

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    Here’s one for Bojancan. So he can be happy, like all the rest of us.

    A lot of Joshes’ talk is about Elon, but it all gets back to Trump.

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    Because of Trump's bombing children and women... residential aria in Jemen... "The world is now safer and all world knows"That are Pam Bondi's words!!! Unbelievable pathetic and childish behaviour and talking of Trump administration!



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    Johnycomelately.... maybe this will be also fun to you.. to listen this episode by Jon Stewart...


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    Johnycomelately.... maybe this will be also fun to you.. to listen this episode by Jon Stewart...


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    Thanks, bojancan. I used to watch John Stewart’s old Daily Show, before he took a break. I enjoyed him a lot.

    He’s still a very funny guy, and is just as adept at parsing political hypocrisy. IMO, he does a good job here describing Trump’s double standard on free speech.

    I am not a fan of John Stewart now though, because he is controlled and utilized by the (D) left, who have long been way more hypocritical. Iirc, he was silent throughout Biden’s term, which IMO was a comedy goldmine.

    So, not a real comedian, but an eloquent political tool. Only speaks for one political side. Has a big staff of researchers and writers, all about supporting the politics of the (D) left.
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    [QUOTE=Johnnycomelately;1662063]
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    Thanks, bojancan. I used to watch John Stewart’s old Daily Show, before he took a break. I enjoyed him a lot.

    He’s still a very funny guy, and is just as adept at parsing political hypocrisy. IMO, he does a good job here describing Trump’s double standard on free speech.

    I am not a fan of John Stewart now though, because he is controlled and utilized by the (D) left, who have long been way more hypocritical. Iirc, he was silent throughout Biden’s term, which IMO was a comedy goldmine.

    So, not a real comedian, but an eloquent political tool. Only speaks for one political side. Has a big staff of researchers and writers, all about supporting the politics of the (D) left.
    I agree with you above...
    Usually I am not watching these American Shows.. but happen, here and there... just appeared in display... this one with Jon was spot on... yes



    Here you go.... one more...

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    I was not listening Jeffrey before... but now... keep up the good work Jeffrey... kind regards from Slovenia and Canada...

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    NOT WELCOME IN GREENLAND!!!! I am so embarrassed and sorry for what this idiot of Don is putting all these countries through.... I stands with Greenland...


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