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    • The closest NATO target for possible Russian attacks near my Father's home is just 22 Km (13.7 Miles) away to the east: NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen Germany 🇩🇪 near Dutch 🇳🇱 border!
    • The closest possible Russian attack near my place is NATO Airbase Volkel The Netherlands 🇳🇱 80 km (50 Miles) away to the South-East.
    If anything bad happens I hope I so not get wind coming from the East/South East ... where I live now ... I mostly (above 75%) get wind coming from West and South-West.

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    • Putin Warns West: You Can't Stop This Missile:

    • Nato Calls Emergency Meeting After Putin Threatens To Unleash ‘Unstoppable’ Missiles On West:
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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1860299511395942653



    https://x.com/France24_en/status/1860246399880675821

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    🤡🇱🇹Lithuania will finance the production of Ukrainian long-range drones.

    Vilnius has already agreed the first tranche of €10 million with Kiev and will transfer it soon, the Ukrainian defence ministry said.

    @ukraine_watch

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    🇫🇲 12 NATO soldiers hospitalized in accident in Estonia

    The accident occurred on the Tallinn-Narva highway. A Volvo collided with a BMW while turning left, after which three minibuses with alliance soldiers crashed into it.

    A total of 17 people were injured in the accident.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1860299511395942653



    https://x.com/France24_en/status/1860246399880675821

    • NWO Monster Ex Dutch 🇳🇱 Prime Minister Mark Rutte to Head NATO. This is Not Good



    • Mark Rutte is HATED in The Netherlands by most Dutch 🇳🇱 people...


    Mark Rutte openly carried his "WEF suitcase or big handbag" for all to see when he was President of The Netherlands 🇳🇱 including in the House of Parliament ... Rutte is also a long time regular visitor to The Bilderberg Group meetings. There is currently a big lawsuit against him. He is known to be connected to the PedoNetworks that is related to Joris Demmink cover up ... When he was just beginning in politics he promoted openly to legalize pedophilia (sex with children starting at age 12) & sex with animals (bestiality) ... (no joke!) ... He was exposed lying so many times there are countless Dutch 🇳🇱 memes where he contradicts himself non-stop of the 4 terms (16 years) he was in power. He was co-responsible for multiple big government scandals. He was a TYRANT during 2020 2021 and I can go on and on and on.

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    Don't know for sure if this is true but it wouldn't surprise me if it is.

    https://x.com/Alex_Oloyede2/status/

    ‼️BREAKING:

    🇷🇺🇫🇷 France becomes the 3rd NATO member to declare war on Russia after authorizing the use of SCALP missiles inside Russia.

    "There are no red lines" – Paris

    The western leaders seem to have gone insane. I doubt the white flag would save France this time around.
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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1860299511395942653



    https://x.com/France24_en/status/1860246399880675821



    Is the above what Alex Jones was referring to here?

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    Default Re: WW3? Ukraine/US vs. Donbass/Russia

    RUSSIA USES NEW WEAPON, Most advanced missile ever used in war

    All of Europe is freaking out over Russian missile

    Yep, it’s a beauty and as I said, the NSA more than failed, they should be shut down for missing this. Russia has a new missile that is full on ICBM quality for conventional war use. And after Russia showed off with it yesterday, everyone in Britain is hiding under Big Ben.

    Russia sent a clear message: There’s something other than nukes to worry about, nuclear bombs are not the latest and greatest thing anymore. I looked over all the videos carefully and it appears to me that one missile wrecked an entire factory that was over a mile long. With this missile, there’s not only approximately 60 explosive warheads to worry about, there’s also the “rod from God” effect from each warhead arriving so fast it burns brightly like a meteor on arrival. So there’s a kinetic explosion along with a chemical explosion in one whack.

    So the question is, is Trump going to take office during World War 3?

    I say no, because after THAT display by Russia, Alex Soros is hiding like a scared dog. Imagine if that missile was sent to Dimona. Imagine if that missile was sent to Parlaiment. From the English Channel. Or an aircraft carrier. In one show, Russia obsoleted the entire US navy.

    Russia ended the Biden/Soros war bull**** very cheaply, even if that missile cost a lot. Rumor has it that Russia has about 50 more, with production at full tilt. That’s not a lot but more are rapidly being made (they started making them last summer) and 50 of those is already too much to deal with – every US aircraft carrier could be sunk along with much of the surrounding battle groups just with what Russia already has and no anti-missile system will stop anything.

    Conclusion: GAME CHANGER.

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    • U.S. Role In Ukrainian Coup Revealed: With Scott Horton

    Wow. That is a lot to process. I knew the basics of how this war started (not what everyday media says it is) but this deeper dive was really an eye opener. Gonna have to watch again to take it all in.

    U.S. Role In Ukrainian Coup Revealed: With Scott Horton
    • The role of the United States in the political upheaval in Ukraine, focusing on the removal of pro-Russian elected leader Viktor Yanukovych.
    • The situation is compared to the "Orange Revolution" of 2004, emphasizing how perceptions in Moscow were influenced by repeated interventions.
    • Yanukovych is portrayed not merely as a puppet of Putin, but as someone attempting to integrate Ukraine with the West, supported by Paul Manafort.
    • Eastern Ukrainian oligarchs sought closer ties with the EU due to frustration with Russian oligarchs after their companies were nationalized by the new government post-Orange Revolution.
    • Yanukovych's decision to lean towards the EU led to conflict with Russia, which threatened trade relations and offered substantial loans to Ukraine.
    • Protests erupted in Kiev when Yanukovych hesitated to sign the EU association agreement, supported by various Western organizations.
    • U.S. intervention was orchestrated rather than grassroots, with significant support from U.S. intelligence agencies undermining Yanukovych.
    • The conversation critiques American liberals for labeling right-wing figures as fascists while ignoring the existence of genuine fascist groups in Ukraine that the U.S. supported.
    • The strategic importance of Crimea to Russia and discusses the historical context of its transfer to Ukraine in 1954.
    • The narrative shifts to the role of right-wing factions in the protests, ultimately leading to Yanukovych's flight and the subsequent civil war in Ukraine.
    The role of the United States in the political upheaval in Ukraine, particularly the removal of the elected leader, Viktor Yanukovych, who was seen as pro-Russian. This situation is compared to the Orange Revolution of 2004, highlighting how perceptions in Moscow would be affected by repeated interventions.

    Viktor Yanukovych was not merely a puppet of Putin but rather someone who was trying to integrate Ukraine with the West, aided by Paul Manafort, who was hired to help him with this goal. Eastern Ukrainian oligarchs were frustrated with their treatment by Russian oligarchs and sought closer ties with the EU, especially after their companies were nationalized by the new government post-Orange Revolution. Yanukovych's decision to lean towards the EU led to a conflict with Russia, which threatened to cut trade relations and offered a substantial loan to Ukraine.

    In contrast, the EU's offer came with strict austerity measures that would negatively impact the Ukrainian population, leading to widespread discontent. When Yanukovych hesitated to sign the EU association agreement, protests erupted in Kiev, supported by various Western organizations that funded independent media and provided logistical support for the demonstrations. The speaker emphasizes that the West's poor negotiation tactics contributed to the escalation of the situation, rather than Yanukovych being simply under Russian control.

    U.S. and Western involvement in Ukraine's political upheaval during the 2013-2014 revolution. The speaker highlights how American intervention was not grassroots but rather orchestrated, with significant support from U.S. intelligence agencies like the CIA and MI6 working alongside Ukrainian intelligence to undermine President Yanukovych. A critical aspect of this intervention involved the radical right in Ukraine, specifically ultra-nationalist groups with historical ties to Nazi collaborators from World War II. These groups are not simply far-right in the American context but are actual neo-Nazi factions with a legacy of violence and admiration for the Nazis.

    The tendency of American liberals to label various right-wing figures as fascists while ignoring the existence of genuine fascist groups in Ukraine that the U.S. has supported. It points out the irony of Western liberals wanting to arm these extremist factions while dismissing the real threats posed by their ideologies. The speaker stresses that these groups openly embrace their Nazi affiliations and continue to commit acts of violence against marginalized communities.

    The political turmoil in Ukraine leading up to the 2014 conflict, describing the actions of various actors involved. They characterize certain groups as "guns for hire" and liken them to nefarious entities, suggesting a chaotic environment during the protests against President Yanukovich.

    In February 2014, the European Union attempted to negotiate a deal for Yanukovich to hold early elections, which he accepted under pressure from Putin. However, when Yanukovich began to withdraw his forces, the police abandoned their posts, leading to a power vacuum. The narrative shifts to the role of right-wing factions in the protests, particularly a leader who threatened violence if Yanukovich did not resign. This ultimately led to the president fleeing, which the speaker describes as a "right-wing street coup" rather than a traditional coup d'état.

    They reference George Friedman of Stratfor, who claimed the U.S. had heavily influenced the situation, and Henry Kissinger, who suggested the West was responsible for the crisis. The discussion also touches on the historical context of Crimea, including its transfer to Ukraine in 1954 and its significance to Russia, particularly after the 1991 independence of Ukraine. The speaker argues that the U.S. involvement in Ukraine's political upheaval and the push to remove Russian influence led to the subsequent crisis in Crimea and the broader conflict.

    Zbigniew Brzezinski emphasizes the strategic importance of Crimea to Russia, arguing that without it, Russia is merely a regional power rather than a global one. He recounts a time when Putin humorously remarked that NATO sailors were welcome to visit Crimea instead of the other way around, indicating his unwillingness to relinquish control of the naval base there. The annexation of Crimea was executed with minimal violence, causing panic in Kiev as their plans to destabilize the region were thwarted.

    Brzezinski highlights a conversation among U.S. officials about the need to act quickly while Putin was distracted by the Sochi Olympics. However, he claims that Putin was able to respond effectively, leading to the situation in Crimea. As unrest spread in Eastern Ukraine, locals began seizing government buildings, mirroring the protests in Kiev. Under U.S. pressure, the Ukrainian government launched a military operation against these groups, which escalated into a civil war.

    This conflict saw the involvement of far-right groups in the Ukrainian military, who were called upon when regular forces were unwilling to fight. The result was a brutal war marked by violence and significant casualties. emphasizes the strategic importance of Crimea to Russia, arguing that without it, Russia is merely a regional power rather than a global one. He recounts a time when Putin humorously remarked that NATO sailors were welcome to visit Crimea instead of the other way around, indicating his unwillingness to relinquish control of the naval base there.

    The annexation of Crimea was executed with minimal violence, causing panic in Kiev as their plans to destabilize the region were thwarted. Brzezinski highlights a conversation among U.S. officials about the need to act quickly while Putin was distracted by the Sochi Olympics. However, he claims that Putin was able to respond effectively, leading to the situation in Crimea. As unrest spread in Eastern Ukraine, locals began seizing government buildings, mirroring the protests in Kiev.

    Crimea was annexed into the Russian Empire in 1783, the same year the US won the war of independence. Crimea has been Russian for as long as America has been a country, it is insane to think Russia would let it become a Western outpost in the Black Sea without a fight.

    Under U.S. pressure, the Ukrainian government launched a military operation against these groups, which escalated into a civil war. This conflict saw the involvement of far-right groups in the Ukrainian military, who were called upon when regular forces were unwilling to fight. The result was a brutal war marked by violence and significant casualties.

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    • Rus launched ICBM had no explosives. Rus picks NATO targets in Europe for Nuke strikes:

    New ballistic missile used by Russia to strike Dnipro on 21 November had no explosives and caused no destruction – Bild "Attempts by individual NATO allies to participate in providing for possible long-range strikes with Western weapons deep into Russian territory will not go unpunished," Naryshkin Level Of Nuclear Threat From Russia Assessed As Low - Ukraine's Defense Intel Strike on Ukraine with new ballistic missile sign of Putin's desperation – former Bundeswehr colonel No signs Russia preparing to use nuclear weapons - White House Poland considers Russia's use of new ballistic missiles "act of Putin's desperation" US Navy submarines to re-arm with nuclear cruise missiles after 3 decades Rus picks European NATO targets, NATO bases-Key European NATO Bases in Reach of Russia's Oreshnik Hypersonic Missile Ukraine in talks with U.S. to obtain arms capable of intercepting ICBMs - source Putin announces mass production of Oreshnik missiles Why US and Its NATO Allies Can't Intercept Russia's Oreshnik Missiles Russia may conduct more test launches of ballistic missiles in coming days – ISW
    • West tries to blame Russia for Ukr Holodomor (genocide). Who were really the criminals? PI Facts:

    Who were the counter revolutionaries from 1917 to 1922 and beyond ! 2: How about the crop failures of 1922/23 and also the year of 1932/33 ? 3: who was fighting for Hitler during the WWII ? Did you say Stepan Banderas ? Who admires this person even today ?

    Famine in the USSR (1932-1933) was a mass famine that swept in 1932-1933 the vast territories of the USSR (mainly steppe regions) that were part of the Ukrainian SSR, the Russian SFSR (including the Kazakh ASSR, the regions of the Central Chernozem region, the North Caucasus, the Urals, the Volga Region, the Southern Urals, Southern Siberia).

    Doctor of Biological Sciences N. N. Nazarenko wrote an article on this subject "Weeds, diseases and pests as factors of the famine of 1932-1933", in which he spoke about the mistakes of the Bolsheviks' agrarian policy since the October Revolution, and explained how illiterate agrarian policy led to such natural factors that caused a drop in crop quality, reproduction weeds and pests, a lot of crop diseases, when from 50 to 70% of the ground grain turned out to be unsuitable for use as food, which turned into the mass famine of 1932-1933

    In 2013, the M. V. Ptukha Institute of Demography and Social Research of the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine held an international scientific conference, “Famine in Ukraine in the First Half of the 20th Century: Causes and Results (1921–1923, 1932–1933, 1946–1947),” where estimates of demographic losses as a result of the 1932–1933 famine were published: the excess number of deaths in Ukraine was 3,917,800 people, in Russia — 3,264,600, in Kazakhstan — 1,258,200, and in total for the entire territory of the USSR — 8,731,900. The relative losses from the 1932–1933 famine were highest in Kazakhstan — 22.42%, in Ukraine — 12.92%, in Russia — 3.17%, and the average for the USSR — 5.42%

    There was no deliberate starving of Ukrainian, there was general famine in Europe of that time it was a result of WWI and crisis afterwar, especially Russian civil war. Food was in short supply, but it was more profitable to sell food to the West, because Europe had more buying power, so many big land owners and even communities simply sold food to the West through Poland, similar to what is going on with Ukrainian wheat now. As the result Ukraine ran out of food. It happened before Russian civil war too, when many Russian nobles, who were biggest landowner export food to Europe even when there was a famine after WWI, which resulted at revolution, because pesants had nothing to eat, workers couldnt aford high price on food. There were famine everywhere in USSR, not only in Ukraine, and the Soviet eventually had to bring food from places like Khazakstan to save Ukraine. Yes local authority, many happens to be the choosen race like Kaganovich participated at profitable business of exporting food out of Ukraine, nothing personal just business.
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    In depth and large data at the link below. (It is from the ISW ~ Institute for the Study of War - It is clearly western orientated).

    https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...vember-21-2024

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    Quote Putin’s November 21 statement demonstrates that Moscow’s constant saber-rattling largely remains rhetorical.

    Putin's recent threats against the West have centered on Western states allowing Ukraine to conduct long-range strikes into “Russian territory,” but Ukrainian forces have been striking what the Kremlin illegally defines as “Russian territory” for a long time.

    The Kremlin has illegally defined occupied Crimea as part of Russia since Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014, and Ukrainian forces have routinely struck Crimea with US-provided ATACMS and UK-provided Storm Shadow missiles since April 2023.[7]

    The Kremlin's application of its "red lines" rhetoric has been wildly inconsistent, undermining the overall Russian escalation narrative.[8] Putin consistently escalates the war on his own without regard to Western decisions and has consistently declined to retaliate every time Western states have deepened their support of Ukraine.

    Putin previously threatened severe retaliation if Western states provided Ukraine with rocket artillery, tanks, warplanes, and the ability to strike into Russia, and Putin has constantly shifted the goalposts every time the West has called Putin’s bluff.

    Neitherthe Oreshnik ballistic missile strike nor Putin's November 21 statement represent a significant inflection in Russian strike capabilities* or likeliness to use a nuclear weapon.

    Russian forces fire nuclear-capable Iskander ballistic missiles, Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles, and nuclear-capable Kh-101 cruise missiles against Ukraine on a regular basis. Previous Russian missile strikes have targeted industrial and critical infrastructure including within Dnipro City that caused greater damage.[9]

    The only fundamentally new characteristic of the Russian strikes against Dnipro City on November 21 was the Oreshnik missile itself, which ostentatiously showcased reentry vehicles to amplify the spectacle of the strike and further imply a nuclear threat.[10][11] The West maintains credible deterrence options and Putin's nuclear saber-rattling should not constrain Western officials from choosing to further aid Ukraine.

    US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) Director Bill Burns cautioned Western policymakers against fearing Putin's nuclear rhetoric in September 2024, describing Putin as a "bully" who will "continue to saber rattle from time to time."[12]
    [7] https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...gainst-crimea; https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ons-black-sea; https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...s-2024-04-30/; https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russ.../32925212.html

    [8] https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...vember-19-2024

    [9] https://www.kyivpost dot com/post/40122; https://tsn dot ua/en/ato/attack-by-shaheds-and-kinzhal-missiles-on-ukraine-how-many-targets-were-shot-down-by-the-air-defense-2674989.html; https://t.me/ComAFUA/343; https://www.osw.waw dot pl/en/publikacje/analyses/2024-03-26/russian-forces-destroy-dnipro-hydroelectric-power-station-day-761; https://kyivindependent dot com/kinzhal-missile-downed-kyiv-patriot-may-2023/; https://x.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1773295125969473779; https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ember-17-2024; https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-july-8-2024; https://understandingwar.org/backgro...ctober-7-2024; https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...t-may-29-2024; https://understandingwar.org/backgro...october-7-2024

    [10] http://kremlin dot ru/events/president/news/75614; https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/kinzhal/

    [11] https://isw.pub/UkrWar111924

    [12] https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...threats-putin; https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...ptember-8-2024

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    Ex British soldier, James Scott Anderson, caught in Kursk by the Russian Army

    Says it all, really. He's lucky they kept him alive. They will have made a point of doing this of course, and releasing the footage, as an exercise in humiliation, and to ram home the point that this is a NATO exercise, and as we know, Britain are most likely the principal protagonists behind this Kursk "safari".

    (See Kit Klarenberg's "Project Alchemy" article here, for a reminder.)

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    Ex British soldier, James Scott Anderson, caught in Kursk by the Russian Army.

    "It was a stupid idea" should be a warning for any westerner going to fight for Ukraine.

    Shocked he's still alive, the army rarely takes mercenaries as PoWs in Kursk.
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