Pedophilia outside USA's Hollywood centered world

[pyrangello]

P. DIDDY: Jeffrey Epstein of the Rap Industry
The satanic pedophile cabal is real

https://gregreese.substack.com/p/p-d...-post&r=1ookaj

I think this is going to blow up way big over time.

[norman]

Tunnel somewhere in France

https://t.me/UnityNewsNetwork/17775

[Flash]

Posted by norman (here)
Tunnel somewhere in France

https://t.me/UnityNewsNetwork/17775

This is so freaky

I hurt for the children. Of course it is or has been a pedo hide out. I have no words for the suffering of those children. Adults or even children in war do not suffer as much.

[Vicus]

West values

Germany decriminalizes possession of child porn
Genevieve Gluck
Reduxx
Tue, 21 May 2024

Germany's Parliament (Bundestag) has received the votes necessary to remove a section of the Criminal Code which made the possession of child sexual abuse materials a felony crime. Once the bill, passed last Thursday, comes into effect, minimum sentences for the possession of child pornography will be reduced, and the offense will be downgraded to a misdemeanor.

According to the Bundestag, the bill stipulates that "possession and acquisition should be punishable with a minimum penalty of three months' imprisonment, and distribution with a minimum penalty of six months' imprisonment, and distribution with a minimum penalty of six months' imprisonment. The offenses regulated in Section 184b of the Criminal Code are therefore classified as misdemeanors and not as crimes."

The possession of child sexual abuse materials was first classified as a crime in 2021 after Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) introduced a minimum sentence of one year for the offense. The move classified the act as a felony, which it remained for three years until this most recent downgrade.

Responding to the passage of the bill, chairman of the association "German Children's Aid - The Permanent Children's Representation" (Deutsche Kinderhilfe - Die ständige Kindervertretung), Rainer Becker, pointed out that Germany could violate a directive from the European Union that classifies any child pornographic media as a serious criminal offense with the change to the law.

A statement of opposition was released by the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) Christian Social Union of Bavaria (CSU). "The distribution, possession and acquisition of child pornography must, in principle, remain classified as crimes," reads the declaration.

"Even if the increase in the penalty range in Section 184b of the Criminal Code in 2020 has led to practical problems in certain cases, a blanket reduction in the penalty range is the wrong solution. A change should be limited to the problem cases and solve them effectively. Scientific findings show that if the penalty framework shifts downwards, the penalties imposed in practice also tend to be lower."

The rationale behind the downgrading of the crime to a misdemeanor included consideration for parents and teachers of children who download the content in order to inform law enforcement. "Such cases have occurred particularly frequently among parents and teachers of older children or young people who found child pornography on them and passed it on to other parents, teachers or the school management to inform them of the problem," reads Article 1 of the bill.

continue: https://www.sott.net/article/491616-...-of-child-porn

[Flash]

Posted by Vicus (here)
West values

Germany decriminalizes possession of child porn
Genevieve Gluck
Reduxx
Tue, 21 May 2024

Germany's Parliament (Bundestag) has received the votes necessary to remove a section of the Criminal Code which made the possession of child sexual abuse materials a felony crime. Once the bill, passed last Thursday, comes into effect, minimum sentences for the possession of child pornography will be reduced, and the offense will be downgraded to a misdemeanor.

According to the Bundestag, the bill stipulates that "possession and acquisition should be punishable with a minimum penalty of three months' imprisonment, and distribution with a minimum penalty of six months' imprisonment, and distribution with a minimum penalty of six months' imprisonment. The offenses regulated in Section 184b of the Criminal Code are therefore classified as misdemeanors and not as crimes."

The possession of child sexual abuse materials was first classified as a crime in 2021 after Federal Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) introduced a minimum sentence of one year for the offense. The move classified the act as a felony, which it remained for three years until this most recent downgrade.

Responding to the passage of the bill, chairman of the association "German Children's Aid - The Permanent Children's Representation" (Deutsche Kinderhilfe - Die ständige Kindervertretung), Rainer Becker, pointed out that Germany could violate a directive from the European Union that classifies any child pornographic media as a serious criminal offense with the change to the law.

A statement of opposition was released by the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) Christian Social Union of Bavaria (CSU). "The distribution, possession and acquisition of child pornography must, in principle, remain classified as crimes," reads the declaration.

"Even if the increase in the penalty range in Section 184b of the Criminal Code in 2020 has led to practical problems in certain cases, a blanket reduction in the penalty range is the wrong solution. A change should be limited to the problem cases and solve them effectively. Scientific findings show that if the penalty framework shifts downwards, the penalties imposed in practice also tend to be lower."

The rationale behind the downgrading of the crime to a misdemeanor included consideration for parents and teachers of children who download the content in order to inform law enforcement. "Such cases have occurred particularly frequently among parents and teachers of older children or young people who found child pornography on them and passed it on to other parents, teachers or the school management to inform them of the problem," reads Article 1 of the bill.

continue: https://www.sott.net/article/491616-...-of-child-porn

This is soooooo extremely sad. Germany will become the center of distribution for the world, therefore encouraging torture of children. I always thought penalties were way too lenient in Canada, it is going to get worst

When one knows and saw the terrible lifelong trauma ruining all the future of those children who survived such abuse, penalties should be life in prison. This is the life they have given their victim, life in heavy trauma prison.

[Kryztian]

The news story is now 8 years old but still newsworthy, especially considering how many Palestinian children have disappeared.

Israel becoming 'safe haven for paedophiles' with laws that allow any Jews to legally return, activists claim
Jewish Community Watch says 32 paedophiles moved from countries around the world to Israel over past decade
Peter Walker ` Wednesday 30 November 2016 17:37 GMT
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7445246.html

Activists fear Israel is becoming a safe haven for paedophiles thanks to the country’s unique Law of Return for the world’s Jewish people.

A Jewish person from anywhere across the globe can be fast-tracked for citizenship in Israel, as well as their spouse, children and grandchildren.

An 1954 amendment to the law bans "a person with a criminal past, likely to endanger public welfare” but campaigners say sex abusers are slipping through the net.

“Israel is becoming a safe haven for paedophiles due to the unique opportunity available to all Jews from anywhere in the world to immigrate there,” said child abuse survivor Manny Waks, founder of child sex abuse advocacy group Kol V'Oz, speaking to The Independent.

“This provides a relatively efficient and effective way to evade justice from other countries. It also provides a sanctuary to those who have already been convicted.

”It's important to note that while there are some criminal background checks as part of the immigration process, there are multiple ways to overcome this requirement."

Jewish Community Watch says that 32 paedophiles in their database have moved from countries around the world to Israel over the past decade.

It says 12 Jewish paedophiles, from across the globe, have moved to countries other than Israel.

“Education of this issue in the Haredi world is lacking. There are serious shortfalls,” Mr Waks, from Melbourne, told the Times of Israel. “They bring teachers in and out of yeshivas without doing checks.

“The Israeli government needs to look at this issue to address it, because it is an injustice to the victims and a danger to Israeli children.”

A text message was reportedly circulated throughout Ramot (a settlement regarded as illegal by the international community since it is built partly in East Jerusalem), reporting that a Level 2 sex offender was moving to the area in November.

The convict escaped arrest by New York police to Israel via Canada in 2007 and was charged in his absence with eight counts of sexual intercourse with two 13-year-old children.

He was reportedly extradited and convicted in 2009 but released in February 2012.

“People have a right, after they serve their time, to live their life,” said Jewish Community Watch Israel operations coordinator Shana Aronson.

“But the community has a right to know who they are. They shouldn’t be vilified any more than is necessary to protect the community.

“But nothing is more devastating than a repeat offender. It’s infuriating. It could have been prevented.”

But the methods employed by activists has caused controversy, with the Jerusalem District Court hearing, on Thursday, 17 November, of Yona Weinberg’s libel lawsuit against activist Yakov Horowitz.

Mr Weinberg, from Brooklyn, New York, who moved to Israel after sex offence convictions, is accusing Mr Horowitz of slander and libel for a tweet he published last year following Mr Weinberg's move to Israel.

The Law of Return allows Jews living outside the country, other than those with “a criminal past, likely to endanger public welfare”, to live in Israel

“I really genuinely understand and respect that there is great reluctance to tinker with the Law of Return,” said Mr Horowitz.

“The Law of Return is a beautiful concept, it’s really part of the DNA of the Jewish state. There’s a feeling that if you amend it for sex offenders, what about someone who did domestic violence? Or a Ponzi scheme? Where do you draw the line?”

But he added that in his opinion “at the very least, the [sex offenders] should be supervised if you’re letting them in”.

Avi Mayer, spokesman for the Jewish Agency, which brings Jews into Israel, reportedly said that approval for a convicted criminal's visa depends on “the nature of the crime, when it was committed, and what has transpired in the interim".

Mr Mayer also told The Independent: "A convicted sex offender would certainly be [barred from the Law of Return] and would thus be prevented from immigrating to the country.

"In the rare event that a person ineligible to immigrate under the above provision is nevertheless granted citizenship on an irregular basis, the law enables any individual who considers him, or herself, adversely affected by such a decision to appeal it before the relevant authorities."

* Update. This article originally included a suggestion that paedophihles could potentially enter Israel as tourists, then "stay indefinitely". This is not the case. If a person wishes to remain in Israel indefinitely they must apply for residency status or citizenship and would therefore have to submit to background criminal checks.

[BMJ]

Focus On Andrew Tate

This is what I meant in my last comment under "The Judges" post when I said Andrew Tate was trafficking children. Because essentially in America anyone under 18 is considered a child. But in Romania the sexual consent laws for relationships with women is 16. But there are reports coming out that Andrew Tate went even lower than that number. So how will this all check out?

Who knows but given Andrew Tate connections or friendship with Candace Owens husband who is MI6 asset who's father is a member of the "House of Lords" you know this rabbit hole will end up going much deeper than what you will ever get from "The Tate Brothers".

Link: https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1826344334142382112

The Hammer IS About To Come Down

Candace Owens is in a very difficult spot at the moment. (IMO) What I think she is creating in the atmosphere is "Reasonable Doubt" for her followers that if she is taken down it would be because she was too outspoken on Israel/Zionist. Which would be her security blanket to maintain some semblance of Innocence. But given who her husband is and what he is connected to regarding the underworld of corruption and that she has been buddy-buddy with two men who will more than likely be charged with Child Sex Trafficking it will become her undoing. Why? Because even before this Andrew & Tristan situation she was directly connected to John Mappin who I personally outed as a Pedo and who many people still follow.

How is she going to box her way out of this situation when he is the one running Turning Point USA?

John Mappin, a British entrepreneur known for his support of conspiracy theories and his association with Donald Trump, hosted an event in London for the debut of Turning Point UK. This event featured Charlie Kirk, the founder of TPUSA, and Candace Owens, who was then involved with TPUSA as a former communications director and later became a prominent figure in the "Blexit" campaign aimed at encouraging black Americans to leave the Democratic Party.

Mappin's involvement with Turning Point UK was an attempt to extend the influence of TPUSA's conservative messaging into the UK, which indirectly ties back to Owens' activities within TPUSA. Do you all see what I mean when I said D. Trump was surrounded by crooked people? Now do you see why John Mappin blocked me?

These are people that have been forced upon the consciousness of the people as the ceiling on info that you need to look no further beyond. And this is why many have gotten comfortable with traitors I called out because they fooled those people into thinking they are the ones who will bring down the Deep State and all you needed to do was fund them and donate to their cause and everything would be taken care of.

Link: https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1826258689658912795

Note in the above video Andrew Tate hands, signalling to Candace Owens at 5 seconds.


This picture (in the below tweet) will go down in history for all the wrong reasons. John Mappin in the far left is directly connected to Jeffrey Epstein. His friend was already taken down for Child Sex Abuse crimes that many of you know from Hollywood. Do you remember former actor Jeffrey Jones?

He played in Beetlejuice. Who's Your Caddy. Howard The Duck. Etc.

Following leads in an investigation of Paul Reubens, Jones was arrested in 2002 for possession of child pornography and soliciting a 14-year-old boy to produce sexually explicit images between September 2000 to May 2001.

Do you all see where this is going? Candace Owens is in a very hot seat. This is why I am not a recommended channel to follow by those who have amassed millions of followers because I am a very high risk low reward account. I am radio active. And that many of their followers would turn on them if they are caught sharing or reposting my info.

That's why you do not see me on their favorite accounts to follow list. Even though the people they suggest to you to follow also follow my page. Do you see the irony in that? Funny I know. They got caught with their pants down and don't know what to do with me.

UPDATE 26/8/24

The Pimp Being a Pimp And Pedo

Andrew Tate with a " 14 year old girl in 2012 " (his girlfriend at the time), with years off practice beating on his girls when they step out line, here he beats on his girlfriend.

Age Of Consent? Or A Time To Repent?

Andrew Tate let me get this math right for second. On August 23rd 2022 you uploaded a video about one of your "ex-girlfriends" that showed you in a sexual or kinky sex act. You addressed the criticism you received for that video because people deemed it physically abusive.

Which prompted you to downplay it because it was to consenting adults correct?

But here is the issue about this entire ordeal concerning that situation. In 2024 that woman who was in that video with you stated she was 26 in that year. Which would mean in 2022 according to that incident when the act took place would make that year 2012. Which effectively by default would make the woman in that video a 14 year old girl or child.

So were you telling the world inadvertently in August 23rd 2022 in a video uploaded on Rumble that you were in a sexual relationship with a 14 year old? Because I am only going by that date. Nothing more. Nothing less. The math is bringing me to that conclusion. Not accusations. Not the media. Not the victims. I am only going off what came out of your mouth.

Because in 2012 that would make you a 25 year old dating a 14 year old that you were seen on video with asking her to tell you why she is getting beaten. Which ofcourse you both downplayed as just kinky sex years later when the video resurfaced. 📹 Which means you went lower than the legal age in that country. In your defense I know The age of consent in Romania was raised from 14 to 16 in June 2022.

So legally you were in the clear in 2012. But here is the fine print. Under U.S. law, specifically the PROTECT Act of 2003 signed into law by President George W. Bush, it is illegal for a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident to engage in sexual conduct with a minor under the age of 18 while abroad, even if the age of consent in the foreign country is lower.

Therefore, if a 25-year-old U.S. citizen was dating and engaging in sexual activities with a 14-year-old in Romania in 2012, they could potentially be prosecuted in the United States for this act, despite it being legally permissible in Romania at that time. The U.S. federal age of consent for these purposes is 18, and violating this ofcourse can lead to some hard times.

The floor is yours.

@Cobratate


@TateTheTalisman


@RealCandaceO

https://x.com/Prolotario1/status/1827299297785725417

Justice Finally

Business is good in Romania when it comes to pimp'n.

DIICOT is currently seizing Andrew Tate’s cars.

[Kryztian]

The Archbishop of Canterbury resigns over a pedophilia/abuse scandal.

Church of England head Justin Welby resigns over handling of sex abuse scandal
https://apnews.com/article/justin-we...5a5588698fe492

LONDON (AP) — Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, head of the Church of England and spiritual leader of the global Anglican Communion, resigned Tuesday after an investigation found that he failed to tell police about serial physical and sexual abuse by a volunteer at Christian summer camps as soon as he became aware of it.

[...]

The Church of England on Thursday released the results of an independent investigation into the late John Smyth, a prominent attorney who the report said sexually, psychologically and physically abused about 30 boys and young men in the United Kingdom and 85 in Africa from the 1970s until his death in 2018.

John Smyth also make himself out to be a religious leader and groomed young men and lured them into a sound proof room that he built and beat and whipped them horribly "for their sins". Instead of reporting these acts to the police, Winchester College covered up these crimes and Smyth was sent to Zimbabwe instead.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4A9IHlmk7Tg

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1861230361562292375

MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra
Whoa…
Evelyn de Rothschild and David Rockefeller named in Elite Mind-Control Training and S*x-Trafficking Operation of Underaged Children

• she claims a billionaire who went to the 1972 Bilderberg Meeting, trained her to be a s*x-slave…
—— she originally did not want to say this persons name, but Patrick, in an emotional exchange got the name David Rockefeller from her being the billionaire

• David Rockefeller, according to her, answered to Evelyn de Rothschild and made decisions about young girls for the purpose of spying and blackmailing people

Clip
https://rumble.com/v5t52nb-evelyn-de...ficking-o.html
Full Show
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPVvEi8kAUo




MJTruthUltra
@MJTruthUltra
Human child trafficking survivor discusses how she was sex-trafficked to an Elite Pedophile Network in Belgium, ran by the Minister of National Defense, Paul Vanden Boeynant

It was used for blackmail purposes, she said.

Clip
https://rumble.com/v5t4tiz-trafficki...ter-of-na.html
Full Show
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPVvEi8kAUo



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questions from comments that I also have

Sally
@TalkWithSally
·
8h
When was this interview?
David
@vadeansonder
·
11h
I’d like to know if this is true

[Kryztian]

Posted by mountain_jim (here)
https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1861230361562292375

Wow, that is quite a revelation! I have watched Anneke Lucas interviewed before and she is quite compelling, as are the circumstances in this short clip that got her to reveal her connection to David Rockefeller. Kudos to Patrick Bet-David for his good interviewing skills.

Here is the entire interview which I will watch shortly:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jPVvEi8kAUo

[mountain_jim]

Dave Collum
@DavidBCollum
·
14h
I have listened to hours of Anneka Lucas interviews and hundreds of hours of victim testimony over the last two years. I have never seen her rattled at all, and she never mentioned David Rockefeller until now. I am writing now but it is slow.

[mountain_jim]

Exomatrixtv has more posted in an existing thread for Anneka

[Mike]

I'm not entirely convinced by Anneke's testimony.

Her energy is pretty bizarre and awkward and hard to get a read on. I don't know if it's bizarre and awkward because of the horrific experiences she describes enduring or because she's just mentally unwell and/or lying.

And she's just suddenly revealing names now when she happens to be selling a book?

This stinks a little.

[norman]

DEVASTATING SATANIC PEDOGATE NETWORK TRUTH BOMBS!! - Senator Elect Mark Finchem

SGT Report


https://rumble.com/v5tin7n-devastati...k-finchem.html



Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v5r9i5b/?pub=4

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
Her energy is pretty bizarre and awkward and hard to get a read on. I don't know if it's bizarre and awkward because of the horrific experiences she describes enduring or because she's just mentally unwell and/or lying.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think anyone lies about this.

Her story tallies with what we know anyway: institutional rape and abuse by powerful (satanic) elites for the purposes of espionage and blackmail. Belgium is also an important clue in her testimony. It quite possibly is (or was) pedo-central for Europe. Just look into the Marc Dutroux affair from Belgium (some info here) who pimped kids to elites for years and years. He was pretty much Europe's answer to Jeffrey Epstein, except seedier.

No one who's gone through the horrors she has will come across normally in a sit-down chat. I suspect she's suffered trauma we can't even imagine. I believe her story. For me, I see no reason to doubt it.

[Mike]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Her energy is pretty bizarre and awkward and hard to get a read on. I don't know if it's bizarre and awkward because of the horrific experiences she describes enduring or because she's just mentally unwell and/or lying.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think anyone lies about this.

Her story tallies with what we know anyway: institutional rape and abuse by powerful (satanic) elites for the purposes of espionage and blackmail. Belgium is also an important clue in her testimony. It quite possibly is (or was) pedo-central for Europe. Just look into the Marc Dutroux affair from Belgium (some info here) who pimped kids to elites for years and years. He was pretty much Europe's answer to Jeffrey Epstein, except seedier.

No one who's gone through the horrors she has will come across normally in a sit-down chat. I suspect she's suffered trauma we can't even imagine. I believe her story. For me, I see no reason to doubt it.

I'm conflicted. Her story does indeed corroborate, but if I was being cynical I might say she simply pulled a Corey Goode and used publicly available info to craft her own story. Even as I write that I feel a twinge of guilt, because to sit back and pick at this utterly horrific story feels gauche or something. And yet, something is troubling me about her story, and I can't quite put my finger on it.

I can say that every time I've seen her get interviewed there's one or two things that I am forced to willfully ignore or compartmentalize in order to fully believe her. In this latest PBD interview for instance, she acts a bit indignant at one point when Patrick asks for the names of her abusers. She says she didn't know the interview would be going in this direction and appears annoyed...even though she told the producer beforehand she'd shock the audience by naming names. Huh?

And the fact that she is naming names now while trying to sell a book seems kind of suspicious.

I think my intuition is scrambled with her for a few reasons, but mainly because this story of hers is maybe more complex than it even appears. It can be possible that some of it did indeed happen and she is lying about some things. I'm not sure but the whole thing feels just slightly askew to me.

Her demeanor reminds me of a character in the movies who is forced to tell a story at gunpoint for some reason or other. It doesn't necessarily mean the story is untrue, but there's something off about it all nonetheless.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Well answered. You know what, there is one thing in her story that does ring somewhat strange: she's still alive to talk about it.

Call me a cynic, but these effin' psychos don't beat around the bush. Killing one of their sex-slaves is probably an average wednesday morning. When it comes to self-preservation, they'll do anything, anything, to protect their interests and stay under the radar. If this lady really does know 'where the bodies are buried', how is she still breathing?

I should make one confession: I haven't watched her longer interviews, only clips and excerpts, so my opinion is not completely informed. Which is to say, Mike, you're insight into this woman trumps mine! When I get a chance, I'll watch and listen closely, and update my viewpoint accordingly.

[Flash]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Well answered. You know what, there is one thing in her story that does ring somewhat strange: she's still alive to talk about it.

Call me a cynic, but these effin' psychos don't beat around the bush. Killing one of their sex-slaves is probably an average wednesday morning. When it comes to self-preservation, they'll do anything, anything, to protect their interests and stay under the radar. If this lady really does know 'where the bodies are buried', how is she still breathing?

I should make one confession: I haven't watched her longer interviews, only clips and excerpts, so my opinion is not completely informed. Which is to say, Mike, you're insight into this woman trumps mine! When I get a chance, I'll watch and listen closely, and update my viewpoint accordingly.

Well we will see but 2 things: when Anneke was saying I can’t tell verbally, her non vrrbal was already betraying her, she was nodding yes, then she named Rockerfeller afterheavy breathing saying she was scared - that heavy breathing reaction is typical of someone who has learned to control deep fear.

What I do not understand or rather cannot accept is why the interviewer has willingly put her life at risk by selfishly wanting points for his show. This behavior is as bad as any NBC or ABC networks doing the same by hiding the truth.

[Kryztian]

Posted by Flash (here)
What I do not understand or rather cannot accept is why the interviewer has willingly put her life at risk by selfishly wanting points for his show. This behavior is as bad as any NBC or ABC networks doing the same by hiding the truth.

I don't know if you watched the entire interview but there was a discussion at the end about this matter. I think Patrick Bet-David did not want to be accused of going beyond the boundaries that had been agreed upon before the interview. He had an assistant that set up the interview with Anneke, and Bet-David said his assistant told him that she wanted to come out with names. She said that was not true. Did someone lie or was there a misunderstanding? It's not clear. Perhaps she will be happy at some point that the truth is out there, that the villain has been unmasked.

Before she came out with the name, she talked about an American billionaire that she had met at a Bilderberg Meeting in 1972. Off the top of my head I know exactly one American billionaire who was definitely there, although there could have been others, but no one as obvious as David C. Rockefeller. If she had gotten through the interview and continued to not name him and just referred to him as "the American billionaire", I think many Avalonians would have come to the same conclusion that it was David C. Rockefeller.

Frankly, I think her life is less at risk now that she is not harboring that secret.

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
You know what, there is one thing in her story that does ring somewhat strange: she's still alive to talk about it.

Yes, it is a miracle she survived. I am sure that once she left this circle of people, they assumed she would just be trafficked by someone else, that she would end up as a drug addict, that she would live a short life. But she didn't and that is a miracle. And they probably forgot that she existed after that.

They probably forgot about her until she showed up on Youtube several years ago. And then they probably thought, as she did before the interview, that she would never, never come out with the names. But she did. They may have had a reason to kill her before the interview, but not now that the truth is out there.

I have to wonder how many other victims are seeing her, are realizing that they have kept the names secret and that puts them at risk. Maybe they too, realize that it is time to get the truth out there, for their own sake, as well as for the sake of the world.

[Mike]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Well answered. You know what, there is one thing in her story that does ring somewhat strange: she's still alive to talk about it.

Call me a cynic, but these effin' psychos don't beat around the bush. Killing one of their sex-slaves is probably an average wednesday morning. When it comes to self-preservation, they'll do anything, anything, to protect their interests and stay under the radar. If this lady really does know 'where the bodies are buried', how is she still breathing?

I should make one confession: I haven't watched her longer interviews, only clips and excerpts, so my opinion is not completely informed. Which is to say, Mike, you're insight into this woman trumps mine! When I get a chance, I'll watch and listen closely, and update my viewpoint accordingly.

A confession of my own: as I said in another thread, I was sort of puttering around my place and doing several other things while I was listening to this one. It really deserves my full attention. I may have missed some important things.

I've heard her interviewed before a couple times. And it's probably unfair of me, but I think I want her to show up like Cathy O'Brien or something. And when it doesn't meet my expectation, I almost try to will Anneke into something she isn't. I really don't know why I react that way to it all, but it may be clouding my judgement some.

Some part of me demands absolute clarity, and I've always been frustrated when listening to someone whose had a paranormal or just traumatic experience - I'm thinking of someone like Whitley Strieber here - whose experience is kind of vague and dream-like. It would make perfect sense for Strieber or even Anneke's experience to seem vague and dream-like, for any number of reasons. I understand that totally, but it doesn't stop me from being annoyed by it all...if that makes any sense

All this is to say, my own childhood remains vague and dreamy to me, and I wasn't sex trafficked. So I can only imagine what hers is like. Perhaps I'm judging her unfairly. There are some inconsistencies I'd like to ask her about. I'd love to see Bill interview her. I think he has the skills and temperament to get it all out of her. I really like Patrick Bet-David, but he's a little out of his depth here imo