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    why would Billionaires want to destabilize "the west and our way of life?"
    What an excellent question!
    Because they're largely globalists
    So are the CEOs and board members.
    Not necessarily.

    Billionaires are completely different animals than millionaires..and hierarchically occupy an entirely different space in the grand scheme of things.

    Brian Thompson made a little over $10 million a year. That's small beer compared to the people I'm talking about.

    I know a couple millionaires. They're not uncommon, and most are not globalists. The same cannot be said of billionaires.
    Mike, we are in danger of going down a rabbit hole here because, as we both know, there are millionaires and there are are millionaires.

    There are the corporate Brian Thompson millionaires of this world, making billions of dollars of profit for their shareholders (Blackrock et al), which begs the question, why kill (by proxy) someone who is making you piles of wonga?.....and there are the self-made millionaires with their own successful businesses.

    I'd be the first to accept that the latter may well be anti-globalist and I suspect your couple of rich acquaintances fall into that category.

    But, and it is a big but, we are talking about the first category aren't we?

    Brian Thompson and the board of United Health were doing a pretty good job of destabilising the Western way of life, wouldn't you say?

    I don't think we know enough about Brian Thompson to say much of anything about him at the moment. He might have been a warm and wonderful man. We know he was a family man. He was obviously an educated and intelligent man, and likely worked very hard to achieve his position of CEO. It's not obvious to me at all that the online reaction has anything to do with the plight of the downtrodden/dispossessed; to me it reeks of envy, bitterness, and resentment towards a man who has been stripped of his humanity, even in death, and merely exists as a symbol of everything they were unwilling or unable to achieve and acquire.

    I don't expect you'll overtly endorse the assassination, but attitudinally you appear quite okay with this atrocity. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I haven't read closely enough, and maybe I've missed the part where you expressed sympathy for his wife and kids. But I haven't seen it.

    As far as the billionaire controllers of this world are concerned, he's easily replaceable. I don't think they'd even blink before green lighting a murder like this if they felt it was necessary.
    You missed the part where I expressed sympathy for his wife and kids because they will be better off without him. He was a monster, responsible for implementing policy which led to countless death. Which part of that isn't sinking in, Mike?

    Sorry! Fully sunk in now. I made the mistake of assuming you were sane. It won't happen again.

    Cue the ad-homs. Q.E.D.
    Cue the lunatic playing the victim.
    Mike, seriously, are you ok?
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    I think there is more to this than just the story itself. It may be an intentional revealing of several elements that they want to public to start paying attention to: the corruption of health insurance industry, which is related to the catastrophic corruption of healthcare itself; the overwhelming presence of public surveillance with the ability to get a face in front of the public so quickly. Yes, if this is a real event, it's important to locate the perpetrator, but as Shoshana Zuboff reveals in her work, the manner in which all of the innocent people on Earth get tracked is mostly hidden from public awareness and they may want that public to start paying attention to it. There are also many connections between UHC & other malfeasance to be learned and finally - it may be that they are trying to monitor how well the public itself tracks the backstory to these events to see if they are more informed and aware of what was hidden from them before. This seems to be an organized plan of public awakening and the evidence on X and in this forum is that it is working. From a slumber initiated by the numbing propaganda of decades of TV & more recently smartphones, the public "lion" is awakening to note that the cage surrounding it is not as substantial as it once perceived it to be. The roar we hear next will have a compelling meaning behind it that is becoming more clear in these threads.

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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Here is link to Mile's Mathis' take, just for the interest of it.
    https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf
    (The whole thing does have a scripted feel)
    For those who don't want to download things:

    by Miles Mathis

    First published December 5, 2024

    I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but that asshole is still alive somewhere, probably on some island beach. I knew it the moment I saw this story. How? You are about to find out.

    The first clue is that police released footage immediately to the press, so I knew the police and press were in on the fake. If this were real they wouldn't be airing it to the public within hours. It would be considered a snuff film.

    The second clue is that CEOs of big healthcare companies like this are not walking around by themselves on the streets of Manhattan at night. Precisely for this reason. You will say this was in the morning, but we can see from footage it was still dark (about half an hour before sunrise). Tony Fauci and Albert Bourla are known to have heavy security, and we may assume the same for Brian Thompson.

    The third clue is that the film looks fake. The guy playing Thompson is a bad actor and his reactions are comical. Plus, notice what no one else has: the SUV right there hits its brake lights and leaves them on right as the film starts. What does that mean? It means AAAANNNDD. . . ACTION!

    The fourth clue is that it is convenient, isn't it, that this murder just happened to take place right beneath a street camera aimed directly at the scene, with our boys center of frame. Front and center, but from the back, so we can't identify Thompson.

    The fifth clue is the photos released the next day of the shooter. No way they would have multiple photos of this guy with his mask down and smiling. What's the point of a hoodie and mask if you are going to walk around posing for the cameras with them off?

    The sixth clue is the cutesy messages on the shell casings: DENY DEFEND DEPOSE. Just stinks of Langley, doesn't it? These effin' script-monkeys don't know when to stop.

    The seventh clue is ex-New York Times crazy **** Taylor Lorenz coming down on the side of revolutionaries here, saying Thompson had it coming. Sure he did, but that isn't the weird thing in this case. The weird thing is that Lorenz is saying it. She's crazy, yes, but anyone would expect her to be crazy in the opposite pasture here. So her comments also look scripted, indicating to me she has been paid to make the event look real. If she has to do that by celebrating the fake death, well OK. Sometimes that is the best way to sell an event, you know.

    The eighth clue is social media being inundated with a million influencers and commenters, all selling this as real. The usual agents crawl out of the woodwork immediately to shove this story down your throat.

    But the ninth clue is the decider: today it was reported that Thompson was under investigation
    So just when he needed to disappear, he did. Just a whacky coincidence, I'm sure.

    More to come, no doubt, as they catch this actor and try him in a dummy court, to properly salt this in. What do you want to bet it will be a bench trial with a deputy DA prosecuting him?

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    everyone is a millionaire in today's world - they just steal a larger percentage of our loot
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    Quote Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
    Here is link to Mile's Mathis' take, just for the interest of it.
    https://mileswmathis.com/brian.pdf
    (The whole thing does have a scripted feel)
    thanks for this. very interesting take and something i've definitely considered...

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    The two primary tools used by those controllers made note of in the thread are: fear & division. It's how Covid was perpetrated. The elements used to divide the public remain long after they are deployed against the masses and it's possible they are present here very subtly. Of course it's horrible that such an act was perpetrated, but if it reveals the dark intentions of monsters in $5,000 suits, then that revelation might be a better focus of anyone discussing what happened. Rather than differences in the details, finding common ground in exposing how UHC & other health insurance companies create widespread massive human suffering could help to not only reveal that activity but also unite the public behind the exposure movement. This event - while distasteful and horrifying in its impact on some people - may lead to a "sunshine disinfection" of the entire healthcare industry in the United States and that can't ever be a bad thing. As the parents of the world are about to find out from the new U.S. HHS Sec'y in a few months, the elderly are not the most abused segment of the population when it comes to these corporations like UHC. And the thunder from this event - while significant - will be a tiny ant-fart in comparison to what is coming when those parents come to that realization and its more complete implications. Better the two of you might unify now because in some months you may be literally standing a post to keep doctors and hospital administrators from the same danger as Mr. Thompson came to meet and cooler heads will be needed to help do that. Now would be good practice to try that unification.

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    https://x.com/PepMangione

    apparently this is the guy...i dont have an X account so i cant see anything

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    why would Billionaires want to destabilize "the west and our way of life?"
    What an excellent question!
    Because they're largely globalists
    So are the CEOs and board members.
    Not necessarily.

    Billionaires are completely different animals than millionaires..and hierarchically occupy an entirely different space in the grand scheme of things.

    Brian Thompson made a little over $10 million a year. That's small beer compared to the people I'm talking about.

    I know a couple millionaires. They're not uncommon, and most are not globalists. The same cannot be said of billionaires.
    Mike, we are in danger of going down a rabbit hole here because, as we both know, there are millionaires and there are are millionaires.

    There are the corporate Brian Thompson millionaires of this world, making billions of dollars of profit for their shareholders (Blackrock et al), which begs the question, why kill (by proxy) someone who is making you piles of wonga?.....and there are the self-made millionaires with their own successful businesses.

    I'd be the first to accept that the latter may well be anti-globalist and I suspect your couple of rich acquaintances fall into that category.

    But, and it is a big but, we are talking about the first category aren't we?

    Brian Thompson and the board of United Health were doing a pretty good job of destabilising the Western way of life, wouldn't you say?

    I don't think we know enough about Brian Thompson to say much of anything about him at the moment. He might have been a warm and wonderful man. We know he was a family man. He was obviously an educated and intelligent man, and likely worked very hard to achieve his position of CEO. It's not obvious to me at all that the online reaction has anything to do with the plight of the downtrodden/dispossessed; to me it reeks of envy, bitterness, and resentment towards a man who has been stripped of his humanity, even in death, and merely exists as a symbol of everything they were unwilling or unable to achieve and acquire.

    I don't expect you'll overtly endorse the assassination, but attitudinally you appear quite okay with this atrocity. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I haven't read closely enough, and maybe I've missed the part where you expressed sympathy for his wife and kids. But I haven't seen it.

    As far as the billionaire controllers of this world are concerned, he's easily replaceable. I don't think they'd even blink before green lighting a murder like this if they felt it was necessary.
    You missed the part where I expressed sympathy for his wife and kids because they will be better off without him. He was a monster, responsible for implementing policy which led to countless death. Which part of that isn't sinking in, Mike?

    Sorry! Fully sunk in now. I made the mistake of assuming you were sane. It won't happen again.

    Cue the ad-homs. Q.E.D.
    Cue the lunatic playing the victim.
    Whatever, Bro, whatever.
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    apparently my man has a manifesto so when that leaks we should take a look

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    You missed the part where I expressed sympathy for his wife and kids because they will be better off without him. He was a monster, responsible for implementing policy which led to countless death. Which part of that isn't sinking in, Mike?
    Quote Mike, seriously, are you ok?

    Cute

    The bloviating 'meat-is-murder' guy who ironically endorses the cold-blooded execution of a guy just going about his business on a city street is concerned about my mental well-being. Well, thanks for asking creepy vegan guy! I'm great, how are you?

    I have to assume, if you endorse this execution and think his family and friends are better off without him and all that just because he's the CEO of healthcare company, that you'd also endorse the execution of all healthcare CEO's for the same ridiculous reason? That's not a rhetorical question by the way.
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    i feel like this is now going to be competing with the Jordan Neely verdict...kind of funny how these two events coincide huh?


    why would this kid keep the weapon? patsy?

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    Jeeeeeeeezus. Will you two quit hitting the "Reply With Quote" Button!!!!!
    I am enlightened, ............ Oh wait. That's just the police shining their spotlights on me.

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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

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    why would Billionaires want to destabilize "the west and our way of life?"
    What an excellent question!
    Because they're largely globalists
    So are the CEOs and board members.
    Not necessarily.

    Billionaires are completely different animals than millionaires..and hierarchically occupy an entirely different space in the grand scheme of things.

    Brian Thompson made a little over $10 million a year. That's small beer compared to the people I'm talking about.

    I know a couple millionaires. They're not uncommon, and most are not globalists. The same cannot be said of billionaires.
    Mike, we are in danger of going down a rabbit hole here because, as we both know, there are millionaires and there are are millionaires.

    There are the corporate Brian Thompson millionaires of this world, making billions of dollars of profit for their shareholders (Blackrock et al), which begs the question, why kill (by proxy) someone who is making you piles of wonga?.....and there are the self-made millionaires with their own successful businesses.

    I'd be the first to accept that the latter may well be anti-globalist and I suspect your couple of rich acquaintances fall into that category.

    But, and it is a big but, we are talking about the first category aren't we?

    Brian Thompson and the board of United Health were doing a pretty good job of destabilising the Western way of life, wouldn't you say?

    I don't think we know enough about Brian Thompson to say much of anything about him at the moment. He might have been a warm and wonderful man. We know he was a family man. He was obviously an educated and intelligent man, and likely worked very hard to achieve his position of CEO. It's not obvious to me at all that the online reaction has anything to do with the plight of the downtrodden/dispossessed; to me it reeks of envy, bitterness, and resentment towards a man who has been stripped of his humanity, even in death, and merely exists as a symbol of everything they were unwilling or unable to achieve and acquire.

    I don't expect you'll overtly endorse the assassination, but attitudinally you appear quite okay with this atrocity. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I haven't read closely enough, and maybe I've missed the part where you expressed sympathy for his wife and kids. But I haven't seen it.

    As far as the billionaire controllers of this world are concerned, he's easily replaceable. I don't think they'd even blink before green lighting a murder like this if they felt it was necessary.
    You missed the part where I expressed sympathy for his wife and kids because they will be better off without him. He was a monster, responsible for implementing policy which led to countless death. Which part of that isn't sinking in, Mike?

    Sorry! Fully sunk in now. I made the mistake of assuming you were sane. It won't happen again.

    Cue the ad-homs. Q.E.D.
    Cue the lunatic playing the victim.
    Mike, seriously, are you ok?

    Cute

    The bloviating 'meat-is-murder' guy who ironically endorses the cold-blooded execution of a guy just going about his business on a city street is concerned about my mental well-being. Well, thanks for asking creepy vegan guy! I'm great, how are you?

    I have to assume, if you endorse this execution and think his family and friends are better off without him and all that just because he's the CEO of healthcare company, that you'd also endorse the execution of all healthcare CEO's for the same ridiculous reason? That's not a rhetorical question by the way.
    So just to be clear, I’m a bloviating, insane, creepy, lunatic vegan?

    Thanks for the diagnosis.

    Appreciate the honestly, Mike. No, really!

    Very Avalonian discourse.

    You're a real treasure aren’t you?

    That was a rhetorical question too btw. I'll leave it there.
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    Jeeeeeeeezus. Will you two quit hitting the "Reply With Quote" Button!!!!!
    Fair enough I just trimmed some fat, just for you Orph.

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    Akasha, you didn't answer my question.

    Would you endorse the execution of all healthcare CEO's? Serious question!

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    Akasha, you didn't answer my question.

    Would you endorse the execution of all healthcare CEO's? Serious question!
    I didn't answer it because it doesn't deserve one.

    Seriously, bro, where's your head at? Serious question!
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    Default Re: The Murder of United Healthcare CEO, Brian Thompson

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    • The public execution of an innocent man and father of two is indefensible, not 'inevitable.
    • Condoning and cheering this murder on says more about you than the situation of health insurance
    • Condoning murder for any reason begins to erode acceptable human norms and desensitized society to violence.
    • Condoning murder for any reason is the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences.
    • There is a strong intentional effort to drain society of compassion and empathy, and at the same make violent behavior more acceptable. This is not an American problem it is a global problem. The prevailing wisdom of those in power is that problems of this magnitude require global solutions. So many people around the world can't move beyond their emotions to understand what is happening.
    The innocent man label is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

    Given the consequences of United's policy with him at the helm, many more have died than at the hands of your average death-rower.

    I suspect this isn't so much "the start of normalizing violence as an acceptable tool to resolve differences" as it was a last resort for somebody.

    But yeah, as I said, before, not knowing the full story, there but for the grace of god go I.
    If you're cheering on the execution of Brian Thompson, you're going after the low fruit and calling it a score. Call it the lazy man's justice.

    Nobody is saying Brian Thompson was a boy scout; he's just NOT the subject of a bullet. IMO. Nor should he be.

    Brian Thompson has NOTHING to do with the injustices that would drive a vigilante to murder. I promise.

    I'm all for justice. But you gotta dig deeper than going after the family man with two kids who scored 1495 on his SAT and worked his way to the top to feed his family to run a (very corrupted) company...

    If you want real justice, look deeper.
    Re-read the posts. Many are saying he was a "boy scout" including you given your S.A.T comment.
    Everyone who takes an SAT is a boy scout? I have no idea who Brian Thompson is. I assume it takes a certain type of person without a conflict of conscience to manage the interests of shareholders. And to speak to Moemers' point about motive, I do understand the how and why of it. I'm just pointing out in my posts that a rage-driven murderous motive that requires a face to an abstract injustice is often misdirected.

    What we're discussing here is the human condition and as old as time. Let's have Shakespeare weigh in:

    "...The first thing we should do, is kill all the lawyers!"
    Not to get too stuck in the weeds (again) T, but SAT takers are extremely synonymous with boy scouts in this context because of their typical respective ages: they are both still effectively children.

    This kind of portrayal attempts, but fails, to whitewash the character of the individual concerned.

    His SAT was along time ago, when he was a kid. Simply not relevant to the crimes, and they were crimes, that he and his associates have committed many, many years later.

    That they haven’t been prosecuted is more a reflection on the ineffectiveness / collusion of the US legal system, and IMHO why someone may well have decided to mete out justice on a more direct and personal level, assuming it wasn’t that wiley ‘ole Sörös and his underground army of crack-shot crack-heads.
    If I wasn't clear, let me reiterate I am not trying to whitewash any specific crimes committed by Brian Thompson. Bad analogy--maybe; but in any event, I wasn't implying an innocence thing based on age with the SAT comment; it's apparent my point was lost in the fray, so I'll just leave it at that.

    I am interested to learn exactly what Brian Thompson's specific crimes are (were), however, and am would respond appropriately to any prosecuting argument specifically calling for capital punishment. Cuz it seems like that's the bottom line here. I'm not sure if this is the right thread for that discussion, but if anyone who feels strongly about this issue is so inclined, perhaps we should start new thread, something like, Brian Thompson's Crimes/Why He Deserved a Bullet. At least there we could both step out of the weeds and address the issue directly

    Carry on. I, too, like Moemers, am very interested in the reaction to all this.
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    I think a dedicated fight thread would be useful for some flame wars that can erupt from time to time, so that conflict could be directed to, instead of taking a thread off the rails. IMHO...x.... N

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