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    🇸🇰 In Slovakia, over 360,000 signatures have been collected to hold a referendum on lifting sanctions against Russia.

    In January, the organizers plan to submit these signatures to the country's president for a constitutional review, which will allow the process of preparing for the referendum to begin.

    @ukraine_watch

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    🇸🇰🇷🇺 "Zelensky could not have received a better slap in the face for his arrogance," said Slovak MEP L'ubos Blaha, commenting on Fico's visit to Moscow.

    I applaud PRIME MINISTER ROBERT FICO - HE IS A BROTHER ✊

    Zelensky could not have received a better slap in the face for his arrogance. Prime Minister Robert Fico has shown the world that no one will wipe the floor with Slovakia.
    "Russia is not our enemy, we are not at war with it, on the contrary, the majority of the Slovak nation has strong sympathy for Russia. No other nation made so many sacrifices in the Second World War in the fight against Western European fascism ," Blaha said.

    "Robert Fico almost died - only because he refused to bow to the West and Ukraine. And he didn't bend his back - I take my hat off! We refuse to be vassals of the West. We refuse to jump to the whistle of Brussels. We reject hatred of Russians, we reject war.“

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    About this topic a lot of information went back and forth, but now it’s clear - Sorry for the confusion.

    ‼️🇺🇦🏴‍☠"Not all commanders-in-chief like the truth. Lies will destroy us"

    ▪️The military-analytical resource Deep State actually acknowledged pressure from the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    ➖"...there is the most famous map of the Russian-Ukrainian war in Ukraine and the world. But, unfortunately, not all commanders-in-chief like the truth and this is offensive. Lies will destroy us," the message says.

    ▪️Earlier, MP Bezugla said that the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Syrsky wants to close DS by mobilizing its employees into the infantry.

    - RVvoenkor

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    Quote Posted by Michel Leclerc (here)
    We are not responsible for what Russia may or may not do. We are, however, you, if I am not mistaken, for what the United Kingdom does, I for what Belgium does. We carry the civil responsibility for the undertakings of the States we are nationals of. Now, alas, both our states are carrying out the "never desisting" program of demonic Evil. Should we then not, instead of piously speculating on the Holiness of Russia, throw our existences into the fight for the "de-demonisation" of our own “polemicised" polities? For their denazification?

    Not for the sake of the "polity".

    I might agree in terms of the "nation".

    I don't have one. The way I am using the term is closer to a "language group", closely tied with dietary habits, and next, to cultural habits. It would be legitimate to say "Arabic Nation" which has no meaning towards religion. My understanding on this is Moroccan, or, was given to me by a Moroccan, hence Franco-Arabic. That is why his name is "Abderrahim" instead of "Abdul Rahim". Chances are, he can communicate with a man who speaks any of those accents, and the way they eat is probably fairly similar.

    There are people around me who use English words, but, we're not really communicating, we have nothing in common, I am probably repelled if not averse to most of what can be found in that. Our relation is that we are statistics of the same map-drawn area. It doesn't constitute a nation.

    I am generally against "immortality of the state".

    The difference with Russia is it is an Empire of Nations. They're not shuffled into some kind of arbitrarily ideal ratio. It's people who mostly live where they always have, at least for several centuries. Due to its tolerance, we have expected it to manifest the "saving force", although it was not true in the 1700s, and it was not true around 1900 with Aghavan Dorzhiev, but now it is someone other than me saying it. I believe it has proved the point intellectually, of course the future remains a rocky road.



    Quote It is fashionable for quite a number of successful “show” speakers to call the leaders of the governments of the United Kingdom, or the United States, "overtaken by the Deep State", or "dumb", or "making mistakes” – instead of calling them personally responsible for the demonic evil perpetrated.


    Here, the very goal is that we will talk about it. The more we talk, the less we do.

    The name of Evil is Man. He may have demons, but that does not shift the blame.

    Where should the chain end, it's not coming from the leaders because they were desired by some people, and have droves of co-workers. I'm not sure I will blame the leader for every small person's opinion.

    For example, when looking at Germany, the plan over the next couple of years is to lay off, I think, about 300,000 Germans by downsizing several major companies such as Volkswagen. The notable exception appears to be Rheinmetall. It's being rewarded by the Ukrainian conflict. But it was the same with the Nazis. So what you have is not a person, but, an "immortal bundle of property" that actually is responsible for the whole success of Fascism.

    Such Fascism has reportedly permeated our countries and Israel, so, there certainly is something to "de-nazify", I would like to do that.

    I would even suggest it as at least a place-holder for that relatively neutralized aspect of the forum about actually building a better future. I would add "identity crisis" as "the west", and, for the benefit of all, de-nazify it.

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    ‼️🇺🇲🇺🇦 The United States is transferring unfinished #Ukrainian military-biological projects to #Africa.

    The Americans view this continent as a testing ground for full-scale testing of experimental medicine, Deputy Chief of the NBC Protection Troops Alexey Rtishchev said at a briefing.

    Key statements:

    ▪️Currently, an American laboratory complex is being built in Senegal, the contractors are the same as those in Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine;

    ▪️US scientists in 18 African countries are studying the resistance of pathogens to drugs, with funding coming through Pentagon-linked funds;

    ▪️ Diseases that the Pentagon is interested in become pandemics, and American pharmaceutical companies become beneficiaries;

    ▪️ The United States does not disclose the ultimate goals of the experiments carried out on the African continent;

    ▪️The main consumers of the research results are the Research Institute of Infectious Diseases and the Walter Reed Army Research Institute of the US Army;

    ▪️The US has donated 10,000 doses of monkeypox vaccine to South Africa, which has not received final approval from the WHO;

    ▪️Metabiota staff concealed that Pentagon employees were involved in work in Africa.

    The Russian Ministry of Defense warns African partners against cooperation with the United States in the military-biological sphere:

    “As practice shows, such interaction results in the loss of national sovereignty in the area of biosecurity and a worsening of the disease situation,” the department noted.

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    ‼️🇷🇺 “The ‘🅾️’ forces are getting closer to Pokrovsk! The offensive is progressing along the entire southern flank, reaching as far as Kurakhovo.

    ▪️In the Pokrovsk direction, the situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces (AFU) continues to worsen, as leading Kyiv analysts admit in their latest maps and reports. Units of the “Center” group of Russian forces are carrying out a strong offensive:
    ➖ “West and northwest of the village of Zarya, Russian forces advanced in the area of the Zarya nature reserve and several forest belts, covering a width of up to 3.2 km and a depth of up to 1.2 km.
    ➖ In the area of Novoolenovka and Ukrainka, Russian forces secured a section up to 4.7 km wide.
    ➖ Between the villages of Novoelizavetovka and Novovasilyevka, Russian troops captured several forest belts and the Novovasilyevskaya gully over a width of up to 6 km and a depth of up to 1.8 km.
    ➖ South of Volkovo and near Peschanoye, they advanced over a width of up to 5.6 km and a depth of up to 1.5 km.

    ▪️Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters also report their crumbling defense:
    ➖ “It’s now a matter of time whether the Russians will enter Udachnoye-Kotlino or whether the AFU will manage to delay them for a while! Currently, the defense here is falling apart; we are holding Peschanoye and trying to prevent further movement toward Zverevoye. Attacks are also continuing from Zelenoye and Shevchenko toward the Chunishino railway… The Russians are more actively attacking in the Dachenskoye area, where they only need to secure their position in the eastern part of the village! Additionally, fighting has resumed toward Lisovka, where Russian forces have begun attacks from the south. To the south, between the Solona and Volcha rivers, fighting is ongoing, with Russian tactical advances between Novovasilyevka and Novoolenovka. Holding this area is critical for the AFU
    - RVvoenkor

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    Yes, in response to the recent assassination, there is a huge statement from Deputy Chief Rtischev, which is heavily against American bio-labs. It warns they are coming for Africa, and, he goes into some detail about how political pressure is used to "open the door" for these projects. "You get a twinkie if I can play with your plague". An atrocity in the form of garbage.

    Nothing terribly new in it, but it may be worth reading the whole thing if you haven't gotten the gravity of this situation. It stops short of saying the United States deliberately produced and unleashed Covid, although that remains possible in this outlook. What's worse than that is everything that they do.

    Assassination of figureheads rarely accomplishes any strategical purpose these days. The man had a gigantic department working for him. He wasn't a field agent, he can't possibly have anything they don't.

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    https://www.rt.com/russia/609949-car...ing-terrorism/

    December 25, 2024

    ‘Act of terrorism’ sank Russian cargo ship – owner
    The Ursa Major was racked by three explosions, shipping firm Oboronlogistics has said


    A “terrorist attack” is to blame for the sinking of the Russian cargo ship Ursa Major in the Mediterranean Sea, Russian state shipping company Oboronlogistics announced on Wednesday.

    The freighter went down in waters between Spain and Algeria on Monday. Initial reports spoke of an explosion in the engine room that caused the vessel to list sharply to the starboard. Spanish rescue ships recovered 14 crew members, but two are still missing.

    “Oboronlogistics believes that on December 23, 2024, a targeted terrorist attack was carried out on the Ursa Major vessel,” the company said in a statement.

    According to the surviving crew members, “three successive explosions” happened on board the ship, which then began to take on water.

    Built in 2009, the 142-meter-long Ursa Major was one of the largest Russian cargo vessels, and was headed from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok with several specialized pieces of port and ship construction equipment.

    Ursa Major set sail on December 11 and was scheduled to arrive by January 22. It had undergone scheduled maintenance this past summer. According to Oboronlogistics, it was carrying many empty containers and was not overloaded at the time of the sinking.

    Oboronlogistics is a shipping company that is part of the Russian Defense Ministry. The Ursa Major was operated by its subsidiary SK-Yug.

    The company did not name a culprit in the alleged act of terrorism. Ukraine has previously taken responsibility for multiple attacks on Russian ships in the Black Sea.

    According to Spanish media, the Ursa Major sent a distress signal as it transited the Strait of Gibraltar. After the vessel deviated from its course and began to list, fishing vessels came to the crew’s rescue. They were later joined by Spanish Navy and the coast guard vessels Clara Campoamor and Serviola. The 14 surviving crew members were taken to the port of Cartagena.

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    Living on the Edge: The Most Dangerous Time in History | Scott Ritter & Larry C. Johnson | Dec. 25, 2024

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    Very interesting video from Helvetic, not least because of the CIA involvement who are, after all, CIVIL SERVANTS, and it's the Civil Servants, the constant force Hidden in Plain Sight, whichever government is in power and who call the shots. With 23 bases in Ukraine, this is obviously where all the corrupt funds are being laundered.

    But hats off to Elon Musk for providing a platform via X which cannot be tampered with - at the moment anyway.
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    '25 December 2024 17:50
    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with 60 Minutes television programme, Moscow, December 25, 2024
    2501-25-12-2024.

    This is easer to read from the link than pasting it all here.

    https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/int...gprla/1989124/

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    Andrei Martyanov | Ukraine's Army: On the Brink of Collapse? | Dec. 26, 2024

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    Quote Posted by Eva2 (here)
    Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with 60 Minutes television programme, Moscow, December 25, 2024


    This is interesting in the sense he says it is still about trying to implement the United Nations Charter in the first place.

    The new difference is that his position is non-negotiable. There is no truce just for the sake of saying we stopped fighting. Russia is going to grind Ukraine until it is satisfied the pieces are small enough.

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    Quote Posted by Miller (here)
    ...the CIA involvement who are, after all, CIVIL SERVANTS, and it's the Civil Servants, the constant force Hidden in Plain Sight, whichever government is in power and who call the shots. With 23 bases in Ukraine, this is obviously where all the corrupt funds are being laundered.

    It's kind of a rough comparison between the American and British institutions.

    The CIA works through the State Department, part of the Executive Branch. This is supposed to deal with foreign affairs, but we also find it operating domestically. The State Department is the equivalent of the Foreign Ministry of most other governments, which is usually elected and accountable; the American Secretary of State is an appointment. The State Department as a whole is a mouthpiece of the Council on Foreign Relations, which in its turn is practically married to the British Chatham House.

    Their rubric is a constant distortion that is easy to see through, but not if you don't look.

    NED is a private foundation that assumed a lot of the CIA's workload, and is given money by Congress. Only a small portion is privately donated.


    In a 1991 interview with the Washington Post, NED founder Allen Weinstein said: "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."



    It's hard to be more open secret. Yes, that which was once unconscionable is now compulsory, perfectly Orwellian. But only on the level of their ideas. Outside of that, everything is still normal.

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    One of the less spoken about commentators of this conflict is Godfrey Bloom, he is an eminently rational man, I like him a lot, he may not have all of the data and nitty gritty information which we like to discuss and analyse in this thread, but his illumination of good common sense deserves recognition, I just wish men like Godfrey were listened to in British establishment circles!
    I wrote this in response to the above video which he posted earlier today, 27/12/24:

    Trouble is Godfrey, we poor peasants do not have much of a say in all of this: the EU & British establishment, along with the District of Columbia intelligence circles seem intent on a deadly game of brinkmanship, even of instigating all out war with Russia, as utterly mad as this might seem - we really are on the verge of a final catastrophe: everything you state is the 100% truth sir, I just despair as to what you and I can do about this?"
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    • Zelensky Tried To BRIBE His Way Into NATO, Says Slovakian PM!:
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    🇸🇰👊🇺🇦 “I am not your servant”: Slovak Prime Minister sharply responds to Zelensky’s criticism and threatens to cut electricity supplies to Ukraine

    ➖ “I understand that, for selfish political reasons, the West gives you almost everything you ask for, but I am not your servant who cannot express his own opinion and is only obliged to help you without expecting anything in return,” said the Slovak Prime Minister.

    ▪️ He also added that he will evaluate the gas situation after January 1 and consider potential retaliatory measures against Ukraine.

    ➖ “If necessary, we will stop the supply of electricity, which is critically important for Ukraine during power outages,” stated Fico.
    Source: RVvoenkor



    https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1872750486727913585




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    Robert Fico

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    WHAT DIDN’T FIT INTO PRESS CONFERENCE XXXII
    1.If someone wants to organize peace talks in Slovakia, we will be ready and hospitable.
    2.By halting gas transit, President Zelensky will cause the EU, including Slovakia, billions in damages, further reducing the EU’s competitiveness.

    It seems the big players in the EU don’t care. As long as, in the name of the unrealistic goal of weakening Russia, Slavs continue to destroy each other.“
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    🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦 The battle for the Dnipropetrovsk region is coming: the Russian army is already close to the last line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

    ▪️ Less than 7.5 km remain to the Dnipropetrovsk region, according to the Ukrainian military map Deep State .
    ▪️'We are gradually retreating to the last line of defense before the Dnieper,' the Ukrainian Armed Forces officer writes.
    ▪️"The situation is getting much worse in this direction. Russian troops are gradually approaching populated areas, they are not going to stop, because they have been preparing for this!" - writes a Ukrainian military man.
    http://t.me/RVvoenkor


    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1872708691662913919

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