Anarchy Is For Everyone

[shaberon]

Posted by grapevine (here)
Anarchism isn't about rioting and chaos but about autonomy and self governance. We don't need to be controlled by a government that doesn't have our best interests at heart.

On this, I don't really look at the "freedom" aspect as per the comment, but, as the negation of "-archy", meaning prevention of a privileged ruling class, the main examples being:


Hereditary Monarchy

Oligarchy


Because the old world definition of monarch includes "person who has our best interests at heart", an anarchist argument is not necessarily the same as an anti-monarchist one. Removal of monarchy is a communist policy. Those are just alternate forms of government, not a direct approach to "best interests".

At a basic level, I offer to sacrifice some amount of "freedom" in exchange for the benefits of collective labor. In actuality, such labor has to be protected, for which I would say the main job of any government is in protecting labor from exploitation. While making an "anarchist" argument as per the above, I still conclude that a method of governance is essential.

[grapevine]

Posted by shaberon (here)

I still conclude that a method of governance is essential.

I agree with you, shaberon, but not the governance that we currently have. It would be diffcult to maintain an anarchic run country, especially with marauder countries continually trying to take over or invade, but we could do a lot better.

Apologies for snipping much of your comment - the bit about removing the monarchy being a communist policy was intriguing because the USA has never been a monarchy and is not communist and when Oliver Cromwell ruled England it wasn't communistic.

[norman]

Anarchy's big weakness (fatal fault ) is that it's blind to an intelligent adversary.

All the other man made governance systems are crap at seeing it too, but with anarchy it's completely and deliberately designed out of it's own conception.

In case some haven't noticed yet, we have an intelligent adversary to deal with, as a pressing priority.

[Delight]

I am no expert on anarchy. The idea of the self organizing collective is what I think about. What really infuriates me at the moment is shown in the fires in California. Citizens of California have wanted the governemnt to accomplish certain important objectives like sufficient water for fire fighting. The people are NOT heard/ respected/honored.

The Government deliberately subverts the people who are capable of IDENTIFYING what is most IMPORTANT to living in california (and Everywhere we live, we have these horrorific leaders!).

I want to see the END of the capacity of government beurocracy and politicians to subvert human ciollective organization of Life in communities. What I cannot understand is how to move out of the stranglehold of government.

I do not think any people who are at all aware, want constant undermining of standards that we ALREADY KNOW are what is needed. wwell, I say "we" but this we is

1. Reasonable
2. Open to constant new information
3. Heart centered
4. Able to comprehend patterns (and able to change mind).
5. Able to communicate with others authentically.
6. Creative
7. Alligned with the humility that we are fallable, there is a higher source of awareness we can access, there is the NECESSITY of alligning to SOURCE.

How do we leave this system? I love hearing people talk about systems that SERVE us. I think anarchy is my choice WHEN the anarchists are like the qualities I described.

[palehorse]

tough topic to discuss..

I discovered that I had been an anarchist my entire life, the funny thing was analyzing my own social behavior. I never went along with the crowd following the rulers/leaders and blindly believing in what they promise, I always questioned everything about the system and I never went along really, my parents was very often pressuring this issue because they knew I was not like most people, many issues in the school, and bla bla bla..

So, I am an anarchist today, I behave like one, I didn't fabricate that personality on me, this is who I am and to be frank I love that, specially in the times we are living. I do not promote anarchism anywhere, because I know how people behave when they hear this word, somewhere in the 19th century (i guess) the meaning of anarchism was changed forever, and not for good, so when people hear the word they promptly associate it with chaos and riots and punks ass people. I have an uncle he got a phd in veterinary, the professor type, we were talking about anarchism and I could not believe the way how he sees it, he is one example of those who fell into the trap and were brainwashed into believing things.. but anyway most people are just like him they see anarchism as something very bad, while the truth is the opposite.

Also notice that there is several different types of anarchism, like anarcho capitalists, crypto-anarchism, market anarchism, leftist anarchism, queer anarchism (rofl), green anarchist, anarcho pacifist (lol this is absurd), religious anarchist (dangerous type extremists, including the Buddhist and Jewish ones), all these variants of anarchism is 100% BS, because anarchism rejects authoritarianism, capitalism, censorship, coercion, organized religion, imperialism, state, supremacism, totalitarianism, and so on just to mention a few.. and what we see today this BS anarchism in the alternative media is exactly the original anarchism mixed with the anarchism rejections, so it is misleading, DO NOT LISTEN to anarchists from the alternative media, they are either controlled opposition or worse part of some nasty agenda.

Be careful with syndicates too, because it leads to libertarianism socialism even when they claim their visions to be something post-capitalism, in the end is all about taking control of production and distribution, and you need workers to do that, since they reject any political ideology and political parties, but that put someone in control of this strategy and centralize power in the hand of few and their collaborators, anarcho syndicalists very often uses strike actions, sabotage and boycotts on the many institutions out there, the ultimate goal is to build the idea of worker's self management, which is an illusion in my opinion, you can't run a country like that, but a small community can self manage that way, I had seen that myself no leaders, good harmony among the residents.

So to wrap up the idea of anarchism, in my very opinion there is the need of a very basic form of government, to take care of all the basic infrastructures, politicians should NOT be motivated to get into politics by money, in fact a position in government should not be a well paid job, and public servants should never have any sort of authority over people's life, also free market should be the only way to exchange goods and services, not this taxable madness we have today, see I am not saying everything should be free, I am saying the government should never have a slice of the cake, because they are parasites, they do nothing and take the biggest part of it.