Did we really go to the Moon?

[mojo]

More to ponder on....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0sBs-pGq6oU

[Vicus]

Nobody knows, IF yes, certainly not with that "coffee machine"...

But... there is something "fishy" from "space" photos ...

A) NO stars! explain that please...I was in south Argentina, no big city there, no air pollution, no Vulcan ashes, just pristine sky ...you never forget that! you are drunk from stars!
So, maybe no star photos because it will reveal the position/fraud ?

B)Earth and Moon size comparison, check this :





That 1969 photo is just a steaming pile of bull...

In a real photo the Earth is all astronaut could see in that direction, cover their horizon complete!

Prove me wrong

https://planetfacts.org/how-big-is-t...ared-to-earth/

[ThePythonicCow]

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Candace Owens interviews Bart Sibrel, to discuss his evidence that the moon landing was faked.

• How We Faked The Moon Landing With Bart Sibrel | Candace Ep 124

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P.S. -- During Sibrel's interview with Candace Owens, Sibrel refers to his website sibrel.com, which Candace also links to from the description below this Rumble video.

That URL "sibrel.com" still resolves to four legitimate IP addresses:

• 198.185.159.145
• 198.185.159.144
• 198.49.23.145
• 198.49.23.144

All four of these IP addresses are Squarespace.com IP addresses, which is a popular website for setting up small websites, such as I presume "sibrel.com" would be.

However that sibrel.com website has now been taken down, and inquiries to https://sibrel.com or to the http or https ports at any of these four Squarespace IP addresses all get a generic Squarespace HTML Error 400 error page (which various browsers will display in various browser specific ways).

In short, it appears to me that Sibrel's webpage, http://sibrel.com, has just been taken down, presumably because of this Candace Owens interview. But what do I know ... I'm just an old conspiracy theorist.

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P.P.S. -- Archive.org shows that the webpage https://sibrel.com was there, just two days ago, Archive.org has saved this webpage 910 times between April 28, 2001 and December 17, 2024. Now, with this interview with Candace Owens that was posted December 19, 2024 on Rumble just six hours ago, Sibel's website https://sibrel.com has been removed.

The final archive.org capture of Sibel's website is available at:

• https://web.archive.org/web/20241217...ww.sibrel.com/

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P.P.P.S -- False Alarm: The website https://sibrel.com is back up and running. Good!

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Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v5yq2q2

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Vicus (here)
In a real photo the Earth is all astronaut could see in that direction, cover their horizon complete!

No ... from the surface of the earth, the moon (and the sun) appear to be about 1/2 degree wide.

The diameter of the earth is about four times that of the moon (about 8000 vs 2000 miles, rounded off).

So from the surface of the moon, the earth would would appear to be about four times 1/2 degrees, which is 2 degrees wide, still far less than covering the horizon completely.

[Applesprig]

No astronaut would survive going through the Van Allan Belt, living beings or animals cannot survive the radiation, the Russians know this and it also explains why mankind has not "gone back to the moon".

[Johnnycomelately]

Two new, to me, conjectures as to possible evidence of fakeness in the claim.

First third is about the colour/color of the moon. This goes to ~44:— of 1:16:32.

Next, to about 52:—, is about physical condition of returning zero-jeezers. Some anomalous comparisons shown, period vid clips.

Am into the hour+ now, this has been getting nuts (squirrel pov).

Edit: done. Am not real sure this isn’t a psyop, it sounds almost too true.

Apologies for the AI overdub of English, sounds kind of goofy. Russian speakers might get the original speech.

The Moon Hoax Revisited, Part 1 | A.Popov

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“ Ph.D. Alexander Popov discusses NASA's Moon Hoax.
In the first part, two topics are considered:
1:00 The color of the Moon;
27:29 The “energetic” Apollo crew after re-entry.
55:20 Questions
At the end, A. Popov answered questions from the audience.

Alexander Popov PhD graduated from the Moscow Engineering Physics Institute (MEPhI) Department of Experimental and theoretical physics in 1966. He worked in special design departments, but mostly in MEPhI. Popov is author and co-author of 15 inventions and more than 100 publications in the field of laser technology, spectroscopy, absorption analysis, gas analysis, and laser optics.”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nE2ZjSM1WpM

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posting for interest-value and reference. This is either, 'so that's how they did it,' or, 'cool story bro'.

I cannot vouch for this claim:

HERE IS THE REAL ACCOUNT OF THE JULY 16TH 1969 MISSION TO THE MOON ACCORDING TO THE CLASSIFIED FILES:

The footage WAS faked, BUT we DID go to the moon in 1969. Here is what REALLY Happened;
On June 20th, almost a full month before, Neil Armstrong and company took off from Pine Gap Joint Operations base in Australia, touching down on June 24th. This was done so in the event the mission was a complete disaster, the US would avoid having it happen on National Television.

There was real pictures and film taken from this mission to be used when they got back, to play it as "live footage" for the world.

The plan was for the astronauts to then be sent back into Earth's Orbit before they were due back so they could do the "splash down" return for the whole World to see. HOWEVER, when the Astronauts Secretly returned to Earth on June 30th, it was determined that the video and photographic footage was ruined due to not being properly protected while traveling back through the Van Allen radiation belts. The only thing they had left was the original radio communications with Mission Control.

In order to avoid international embarrassment and prove to the world the US still went to the Moon, they recreated the footage and used the actual radio communications that NASA had recorded. It was then that all three Astronauts were sent back into space on July 16th to be sent back into Orbit to await the Splash down for the cameras.

It wasn't until they came back this second time that they were informed that they were not allowed to discuss any of the real details about what they encountered on their trip to the Moon. Forced to sign NDA's minutes before their press conference, where violating it was punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or $1,000,000.00 in fines.

All other missions to the Moon, countermeasures were in place to protect against damaged footage from the Van Allen radiation belts. THAT'S why the rest of the mission's footage looks differently than the recreated footage.

*Only one video clip I have ever ran across has EVER told the true story. So I am attaching it to this RELEASE. The photos that you see from the Moon were NOT taken during Apollo 11. They were taken later, but most WERE observed by them in 1969.

**So THIS is why the 1969 moon landing footage was faked, and it WASN'T because it didn't happen!**

https://x.com/truthtold24/status/1844125829132865652

[Tintin]

Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
Posting for interest-value and reference. This is either, 'so that's how they did it,' or, 'cool story bro'.

I cannot vouch for this claim:

HERE IS THE REAL ACCOUNT OF THE JULY 16TH 1969 MISSION TO THE MOON ACCORDING TO THE CLASSIFIED FILES:

The footage WAS faked, BUT we DID go to the moon in 1969. Here is what REALLY Happened;
On June 20th, almost a full month before, Neil Armstrong and company took off from Pine Gap Joint Operations base in Australia, touching down on June 24th. This was done so in the event the mission was a complete disaster, the US would avoid having it happen on National Television.

There was real pictures and film taken from this mission to be used when they got back, to play it as "live footage" for the world.

The plan was for the astronauts to then be sent back into Earth's Orbit before they were due back so they could do the "splash down" return for the whole World to see. HOWEVER, when the Astronauts Secretly returned to Earth on June 30th, it was determined that the video and photographic footage was ruined due to not being properly protected while traveling back through the Van Allen radiation belts. The only thing they had left was the original radio communications with Mission Control.

In order to avoid international embarrassment and prove to the world the US still went to the Moon, they recreated the footage and used the actual radio communications that NASA had recorded. It was then that all three Astronauts were sent back into space on July 16th to be sent back into Orbit to await the Splash down for the cameras.

It wasn't until they came back this second time that they were informed that they were not allowed to discuss any of the real details about what they encountered on their trip to the Moon. Forced to sign NDA's minutes before their press conference, where violating it was punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or $1,000,000.00 in fines.

All other missions to the Moon, countermeasures were in place to protect against damaged footage from the Van Allen radiation belts. THAT'S why the rest of the mission's footage looks differently than the recreated footage.

*Only one video clip I have ever ran across has EVER told the true story. So I am attaching it to this RELEASE. The photos that you see from the Moon were NOT taken during Apollo 11. They were taken later, but most WERE observed by them in 1969.

**So THIS is why the 1969 moon landing footage was faked, and it WASN'T because it didn't happen!**

https://x.com/truthtold24/status/1844125829132865652

That's REALLY interesting concerning when they got there. I rather suspect that that is all bonafide. Great find

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Tintin (here)

That's REALLY interesting concerning when they got there. I rather suspect that that is all bonafide. Great find

It's a fascinating and rather extreme claim! But yes, it might possibly explain many of the large holes in the original story that have been revealed over the years.

[Nick Matkin]

Oh dear... Probably time to post this again. I see no one in the past few years has actually given any technical explanation as to how all these parameters were faked to all the amateur radio enthusiasts across the globe. Please read the links before claiming it was all faked with terrestrial transmitters...


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So the radio amateurs who listened to and recorded the unencrypted analogue radio signals were all faking it were they? Their measurement of RF path loss, propagation delay, Doppler shift and signal polarization, all consistent with a transmission path to and landing on the Moon were all made up? Really?

Perhaps the Apollo deniers are not aware of the many technical hobbyists who have no connection with NASA, the government or anyone else. They just do it for the challenge. These were radio *hobbyists*, many professionally involved with radio communication, mostly in the US, but also in Europe and elsewhere. As you can see, even then they had pretty elaborate radio receiving kit, much of it designed and built themselves.

If you can follow the engineering aspects it's described here:

http://www.arrl.org/eavesdropping-on-apollo-11
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/...7/APOLLO17.htm
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/UoFSTS/UoFSTSx.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20100105...tory/apollo11/

Please feel free to go through the technical descriptions, pick it all apart and describe why none of it was possible. Good luck...

[Bruce G Charlton]

I believe that men landed on the moon, and returned alive. I also believe a fair bit of photography was faked in the space programme - as "evidence" always has been faked in major events when the news media are involved.

I think that one of the difficulties people nowadays have in believing in the reality of the moon landings, is that the moon shot happened near to the apex of humankind's genuine scientific/ technical achievement; when there were considerable numbers of people whose work was solidly motivated by truth seeking and truth speaking. It was the non-scientists around them who did the fakery.

We are in the terminal phase of a great (albeit deeply flawed) civilization. Things really have changed. Things were Not always as they are now.

We are nowadays some decades into a post-science era - real science has all-but ended among mainstream professional research (and where it exists is swamped by dishonest material).

I caught the tail-end of real science, when almost everybody in most fields had been honest; and I lived through its very nearly total corruption.

This happened in science - the real thing disappeared; and it happened to all functional activity in our civilization; all the major social institutions. Now there is just one (multi-national) public-private totalitarian bureaucracy, which operates with bureaucratic motives and bureaucratic procedures - and it makes no significant difference whether the bureaucracy is pretending to do science, administer justice, educate, or practice religion.

But it was not always thus.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
I believe that men landed on the moon, and returned alive. I also believe a fair bit of photography was faked in the space programme - as "evidence" always has been faked in major events when the news media are involved.

I think that one of the difficulties people nowadays have in believing in the reality of the moon landings, is that the moon shot happened near to the apex of humankind's genuine scientific/ technical achievement; when there were considerable numbers of people whose work was solidly motivated by truth seeking and truth speaking. It was the non-scientists around them who did the fakery.

We are in the terminal phase of a great (albeit deeply flawed) civilization. Things really have changed. Things were Not always as they are now.

We are nowadays some decades into a post-science era - real science has all-but ended among mainstream professional research (and where it exists is swamped by dishonest material).

I caught the tail-end of real science, when almost everybody in most fields had been honest; and I lived through its very nearly total corruption.

This happened in science - the real thing disappeared; and it happened to all functional activity in our civilization; all the major social institutions. Now there is just one (multi-national) public-private totalitarian bureaucracy, which operates with bureaucratic motives and bureaucratic procedures - and it makes no significant difference whether the bureaucracy is pretending to do science, administer justice, educate, or practice religion.

But it was not always thus.

Terrific post. (Even by your own sky-high standards! )

[meat suit]

Thing is, and I have probably said that before,
If ET space craft have been sucessfully reverse enigineered since the late 40s , then its entirely possible that the Apollo gear was lugged up to the moon one fine afternoon with the help of something way more advanced..
That may also explain how anybody survived the radiation and the extra light sources in all the moon pics...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by meat suit (here)
Thing is, and I have probably said that before,
If ET space craft have been sucessfully reverse enigineered since the late 40s , then its entirely possible that the Apollo gear was lugged up to the moon one fine afternoon with the help of something way more advanced..
That may also explain how anybody survived the radiation and the extra light sources in all the moon pics...

Yes, Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (Arthur Neumann) told us exactly this — that the Apollo missions did indeed happen, the images and film were all faked, and that it was all made possible with the help of some ET technology that was incorporated into the Apollo capsules.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

👆👆👆

Yup, my strong belief also. We went to the moon, and certain 'exotic' tech helped us get there (and back).

Some of the footage is fake, some of the footage is real. Mission parameters exceeded what we were told: they weren't only there for high school experiments, or for collecting moon rocks. I believe there's a great deal to that claims that ET vehicles were observed on the moon by Buzz and Neil, perhaps on the way to the moon, and structures were discovered on the surface, and afterwards, they were mind-controlled to forget what they saw (see this post). It's no wonder this conspiracy theory has endured so long. It's quite a formidable knot to unpick.

Just imagine what it will be like if/when we go back?

[Tintin]

Posted by meat suit (here)
Thing is, and I have probably said that before,
If ET space craft have been sucessfully reverse enigineered since the late 40s , then its entirely possible that the Apollo gear was lugged up to the moon one fine afternoon with the help of something way more advanced..
That may also explain how anybody survived the radiation and the extra light sources in all the moon pics...

I do have confirmation of that very scenario, and have shared it before on the forum. I'll repost a little later here.

[Richter]

Apollo 18 (1:12:20)
This 'Blair Witch Project' on the moon is perhaps a bit off topic but certainly worthwhile to watch.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M2D6SE8QZcE

[T Smith]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by meat suit (here)
Thing is, and I have probably said that before,
If ET space craft have been sucessfully reverse enigineered since the late 40s , then its entirely possible that the Apollo gear was lugged up to the moon one fine afternoon with the help of something way more advanced..
That may also explain how anybody survived the radiation and the extra light sources in all the moon pics...

Yes, Camelot witness 'Henry Deacon' (Arthur Neumann) told us exactly this — that the Apollo missions did indeed happen, the images and film were all faked, and that it was all made possible with the help of some ET technology that was incorporated into the Apollo capsules.

A little predictive programming/ quasi-disclosure in popular culture?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VYoB5q-yofs

[Hughe]

Angular size of an object from distance can be calculated by arctan.


M_r (radius of Moon) = 1,737 km.
M_d (diameter of Moon) = 3,474 km.
D (average distance to Moon) = 384,399 km.
M_theta (angular size of Moon on Earth) = arctan(M_d / D)
M_theta = arctan(3,474 / 384,399) = 0.5178

E_r = 6,371 km
E_d = 12,742 km
E_theta (angular size of Earth on Moon) = arctan(E_d / D)
E_theta = arctan(12,742 / 384,399) = 1.8985

E_theta / M_theta = 1.8985 / 0.5178 = 3.6665

Earth on Moon's surface is three and half times bigger than Moon on Earth.

I think full Earth on Moon's surface is mesmerizing by the brightness and size.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I emphatically believe the moon landing mystery/conspiracy is now satisfactorily solved. The intricate but at the same time simple solution is laid in many posts across these 26 pages, and in yet other places throughout this sub-forum. For the tl;dr, Greer wraps up what really happened, and what it was all about, neatly, and I believe 100% correctly, in less than sixty seconds:

https://x.com/DrStevenGreer/status/1922744221326364951
Here’s the truth about the moon landing. The corrupt organization threatened our first men on the moon to keep the truth about UFOs a secret. To understand what is really going on watch "The Cosmic Hoax" and "Unacknowledged". Free on Tubi.
See link in Bio.