Vitamin D beats vaccines every day

[Bill Ryan]

An update. (I don't want to hog this thread! But what I'm experiencing is a little hard to understand — though I'm not at all worried about it. )

On 6 January, a month ago, I did a purely routine blood test — and found, to my surprise, that my Vitamin D level was way too low, at 22.66.

I immediately started taking 10,000 IU of Vit D3 a day — from a bottle I'd had on the shelf and not used before. (I'd actually ordered it by accident over a year ago. Looking carefully now at the label, the expiry date was Dec 2024.).

I tested it again on 16 Jan, and it had sunk to 17.34. (OMG!)

Dennis observed that I was a walking human petri dish. He explained about Vitamin K2, which I doubled per day immediately.

Two days ago I tested it again, confident that it had to be back to normal. (I'd even followed Vicus' advice and — carefully! — rolled up my sleeves in all but the most piercing mountain sunshine.)

But my level had crept up to merely 19.97, still lower than a month previously.

I even emailed the laboratory head (a doctor in biochemistry) and asked her to very kindly double-check the numbers. She did, and assured me that the test result was good.

So now I'm changing the brand of my D3.

I'm suspecting that with an expiry date of Dec 2024, the impressively labeled 10,000 IU capsules may have become impotent, with almost nothing in them. (Internet searches suggest D3 does lose potency over time.)

I'll test it again in a couple of weeks, after taking 2x 4000 IU capsules per day of a new brand which I've just bought locally.

So, in summary:

• I'm not worried about this at all. I feel fine in every way. It's merely an odd mystery to solve.
• If it's the brand or the bottle that's the problem (actually delivering little or nothing!), that'd be quite a lesson to learn.
• The whole thing does make me wonder what unknowns might be lying in potential ambush for those many people who never have a blood test of any kind and might have no idea what's out of balance.

No need to reply, or express any concern! All is well. I'll update again here in a couple of weeks, just in case this might be of any value to anyone out there..

[Ashiris]

25 Best Vitamin D3 Supplements
https://www.smeetsengraas.nl/en/category/vitamin-d3/

[RunningDeer]

"If you don't take the correct kind of vitamin D and have the proper lab work checked to monitor it, you can suffer from the symptoms of deficiency." ~ Dr. Ken Berry

Dr. Ken Berry: I was listening to a podcast and this guy was talking about magnesium deficiency and vitamin D deficiency and how it was epidemic in America, and no one was checking it and no one knew anything about it. So I thought I don't think that's true but the next time I draw lab work on some patients I'll check a few vitamin Ds and some magnesiums and we'll just see.

I was already checking magnesium and I haven't seen that at all. So I started checking vitamin D and at first I was checking a vitamin D125 which is the wrong test to check and the more I read, I finally figured out that I need to be checking a vitamin D25 level in my patient.

It was years ago and so when I finally got that right, I started to see that far more than 50% of my patients were deficient in vitamin D. And it kind of blew me away. Some people were a little deficient, but some people had almost a zero level of vitamin D in their blood which really worried me. So I really started to study about vitamin D. I joined the National Osteoporosis Foundation. I became very interested in bone health and vitamin D and the more I read the more I've discovered that vitamin D is very important for bone health, but it's also very important for hundreds of other things to optimize your health.

VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY & Treatment (Which and How Much?) (11 min)

• Dr. Ken Berry
• 3.45M subscribers

Have you had your vitamin D levels checked? If you don't take the correct kind of vitamin D and have the proper labwork checked to monitor it, you can suffer from the symptoms of deficiency.

In this video I'll share with you which kind and how much to take to avoid Vitamin D Deficiency.

The risk of everything from osteomalacia to infection to cancer can be reduced by optimizing your Vitamin D level. Have a question about Vitamin D? Leave it in the comment section and I'll answer all that I can.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-FKS7C5BcbE

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
An update. (I don't want to hog this thread! But what I'm experiencing is a little hard to understand — though I'm not at all worried about it. )

On 6 January, a month ago, I did a purely routine blood test — and found, to my surprise, that my Vitamin D level was way too low, at 22.66.

I immediately started taking 10,000 IU of Vit D3 a day — from a bottle I'd had on the shelf and not used before. (I'd actually ordered it by accident over a year ago. Looking carefully now at the label, the expiry date was Dec 2024.).

I tested it again on 16 Jan, and it had sunk to 17.34. (OMG!)

Dennis observed that I was a walking human petri dish. He explained about Vitamin K2, which I doubled per day immediately.

Two days ago I tested it again, confident that it had to be back to normal. (I'd even followed Vicus' advice and — carefully! — rolled up my sleeves in all but the most piercing mountain sunshine.)

But my level had crept up to merely 19.97, still lower than a month previously.

I even emailed the laboratory head (a doctor in biochemistry) and asked her to very kindly double-check the numbers. She did, and assured me that the test result was good.

So now I'm changing the brand of my D3.

I'm suspecting that with an expiry date of Dec 2024, the impressively labeled 10,000 IU capsules may have become impotent, with almost nothing in them. (Internet searches suggest D3 does lose potency over time.)

I'll test it again in a couple of weeks, after taking 2x 4000 IU capsules per day of a new brand which I've just bought locally.

So, in summary:

• I'm not worried about this at all. I feel fine in every way. It's merely an odd mystery to solve.
• If it's the brand or the bottle that's the problem (actually delivering little or nothing!), that'd be quite a lesson to learn.
• The whole thing does make me wonder what unknowns might be lying in potential ambush for those many people who never have a blood test of any kind and might have no idea what's out of balance.

No need to reply, or express any concern! All is well. I'll update again here in a couple of weeks, just in case this might be of any value to anyone out there..

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
So now I'm changing the brand of my D3.

I'm suspecting that with an expiry date of Dec 2024, the impressively labeled 10,000 IU capsules may have become impotent, with almost nothing in them. (Internet searches suggest D3 does lose potency over time.)

What you suspect matches the article below, Bill.

I’ve added these vitamin D sources to my diet at least a couple of times a week. Plus I added one more product though I don't take it as often.

Wild Cod Liver Canned From Iceland




King Oscar Sardines Extra Virgin Olive Oil




Grass Fed Desiccated Beef Liver Capsules - Natural Iron, Vitamin A, B12 for Energy - Humanely Pasture Raised Undefatted in New Zealand Without Hormones or Chemicals




Is Vitamin D the same as Vitamin D3?

There are five forms of Vitamin D - D1, D2, D3, D4 and D5. The most important forms used by the body are D2 and D3. Supplemental Vitamin D comes in either of these two forms:

• Ergocalciferol (Vitamin D2)
• Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3)

The notion that Vitamin D2 and D3 were equivalent to each other was based on historical studies of rickets prevention in children which lead it to become known simply as Vitamin D.

Where do you get Vitamin D from?

Vitamin D is synthesised in the skin as Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol). It is obtained from dietary sources or supplements in either Vitamin D3 or Vitamin D2 (ergocalciferol) form.

Plant sources provide you with Vitamin D2. The more beneficial Vitamin D3 is the form naturally produced by your body and can only be obtained via animal/fish based sources such as:

• Oily fish e.g. salmon, mackerel, tuna and sardines
• Egg yolk
• Unpasteurised milk
• Margarine
• Some yoghurts

Clinical Trials have proved Vitamin D3 to be superior to Vitamin D2.

A 2011 Cochrane Database study highlighted the significant differences between the two and examined mortality rates for people who supplemented their diets with Vitamin D2, versus those who did so with Vitamin D3. The analysis of 50 randomised controlled trials, which included almost 100,000 participants, showed a 6% relative risk reduction among those who used D3, and a 2% relative risk increase among those who used D2.

Your body deals with the different types very differently.

According to recent research, Vitamin D3 is approximately 85% better in raising and maintaining Vitamin D concentrations in the body and produces 200-300% greater storage of Vitamin D than Vitamin D2.

With either form your body must convert it into a more active form, and Vitamin D3 is converted 500 percent faster than Vitamin D2.

Vitamin D2 has a shorter shelf life and it binds poorly with proteins in your blood which further hinders its effectiveness.

If it just says "Vitamin D" how do you know what you are taking?

If your supplement packaging just says Vitamin D with no number after the letter D, look at the ingredients list and check to see if it says from ergocalciferol (which is D2) or cholecalciferol (which is D3).

Milk has long been known as a good source of Calcium, Magnesium and Vitamins A, C, D and E, however milk in the UK contains very little Vitamin D. In the USA milk is fortified with Vitamin D but we have not followed suit with this practice yet. Our fortified foods include margarine (which is required by law to contain Vitamin D), some yoghurts and breakfast cereals.

link

[happyuk]

Interesting thread. And interesting that Bill noticed such a slow increase in vitamin D levels in spite of the consistent supplementation.

I personally recommend traditional, fermented, unpasteurized cod liver oil, as recommended by the Weston A. Price Foundation, as the means of putting the lead in my pencil. This stuff is very potent, with a strong flavour and smell that can be a challenge for some people, so I get it in capsule format.

Like a lot of things, it's rocketed in price, but I take comfort in the fact it has been used for centuries as a supplement to support health, bones, and overall well-being. If it was good enough for the Vikings it's good enough for me! From what I've researched getting your Vitamin D in cod liver oil format has a number of things going for it:

1. It has a higher availability of nutrients compared to synthetic equivalents and may be more easily absorbed by your body.
   
2. Vitamin A and K2: The vitamin A and K2 in cod liver oil can work synergistically with vitamin D, which is important for calcium metabolism and bone health. This is similar to what Bill is doing by supplementing with vitamin K2 alongside your D3, but from a whole food source.
   
3. Omega-3 Fatty Acids: These are critical for overall health, supporting heart, brain, and immune function. The presence of omega-3s can help your body metabolize vitamins and minerals more efficiently, which could assist with increasing your vitamin D levels.
   
4. The Fermentation Process: The Vikings would place the cod livers in barrels of seawater to putrefy, and the oil skimmed off over time. The fermentation process may actually improve the absorption and potency of the nutrients in the oil, as fermentation can break down compounds that would otherwise inhibit absorption. Fermented cod liver oil also often has fewer impurities and is considered to be a more "bioactive" form of supplementation.

[Bill Ryan]

A new article from Dr. Mercola:

https://media.mercola.com/ImageServe...amin-d-pdf.pdf

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=znbZSO3Kao0

[Casey Claar]

Posted by happyuk (here)
Interesting thread. And interesting that Bill noticed such a slow increase in vitamin D levels in spite of the consistent supplementation.

I personally recommend traditional, fermented, unpasteurized cod liver oil, as recommended by the Weston A. Price Foundation, as the means of putting the lead in my pencil. This stuff is very potent, with a strong flavour and smell that can be a challenge for some people, so I get it in capsule format.

Like a lot of things, it's rocketed in price, but I take comfort in the fact it has been used for centuries as a supplement to support health, bones, and overall well-being. If it was good enough for the Vikings it's good enough for me! From what I've researched getting your Vitamin D in cod liver oil format has a number of things going for it:

1. It has a higher availability of nutrients compared to synthetic equivalents and may be more easily absorbed by your body.
   
2. Vitamin A and K2: The vitamin A and K2 in cod liver oil can work synergistically with vitamin D, which is important for calcium metabolism and bone health. This is similar to what Bill is doing by supplementing with vitamin K2 alongside your D3, but from a whole food source.
   
3. Omega-3 Fatty Acids: These are critical for overall health, supporting heart, brain, and immune function. The presence of omega-3s can help your body metabolize vitamins and minerals more efficiently, which could assist with increasing your vitamin D levels.
   
4. The Fermentation Process: The Vikings would place the cod livers in barrels of seawater to putrefy, and the oil skimmed off over time. The fermentation process may actually improve the absorption and potency of the nutrients in the oil, as fermentation can break down compounds that would otherwise inhibit absorption. Fermented cod liver oil also often has fewer impurities and is considered to be a more "bioactive" form of supplementation.

Where do source this, happyuk?

[happyuk]

Posted by Casey Claar (here)

Posted by happyuk (here)
Interesting thread. And interesting that Bill noticed such a slow increase in vitamin D levels in spite of the consistent supplementation.

I personally recommend traditional, fermented, unpasteurized cod liver oil, as recommended by the Weston A. Price Foundation, as the means of putting the lead in my pencil. This stuff is very potent, with a strong flavour and smell that can be a challenge for some people, so I get it in capsule format.

Like a lot of things, it's rocketed in price, but I take comfort in the fact it has been used for centuries as a supplement to support health, bones, and overall well-being. If it was good enough for the Vikings it's good enough for me! From what I've researched getting your Vitamin D in cod liver oil format has a number of things going for it:

1. It has a higher availability of nutrients compared to synthetic equivalents and may be more easily absorbed by your body.
   
2. Vitamin A and K2: The vitamin A and K2 in cod liver oil can work synergistically with vitamin D, which is important for calcium metabolism and bone health. This is similar to what Bill is doing by supplementing with vitamin K2 alongside your D3, but from a whole food source.
   
3. Omega-3 Fatty Acids: These are critical for overall health, supporting heart, brain, and immune function. The presence of omega-3s can help your body metabolize vitamins and minerals more efficiently, which could assist with increasing your vitamin D levels.
   
4. The Fermentation Process: The Vikings would place the cod livers in barrels of seawater to putrefy, and the oil skimmed off over time. The fermentation process may actually improve the absorption and potency of the nutrients in the oil, as fermentation can break down compounds that would otherwise inhibit absorption. Fermented cod liver oil also often has fewer impurities and is considered to be a more "bioactive" form of supplementation.

Where do source this, happyuk?

Hi Casey I got my information primarily from the Weston A Price articles below:

Cod Liver Oil: Our Number ONE Superfood

Discusses the nutrient density and benefits of cod liver oil, including its high content of vitamins A, D, and omega-3s

Fat-Soluble Activators

A series of articles on fat-soluble activators. It includes discussions on nutrients like vitamins A, D, and K2, which play vital roles in nutrient absorption and metabolism. The articles also explore the synergy between fat-soluble vitamins and omega-3s, as well as their impact on bone health and overall well-being.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration

Dr. Weston A. Price’s book, which deals with the traditional diets rich in fat-soluble vitamins (A, D, and K2), which discusses among things foods like cod liver oil, and how they are crucial for optimal health, particularly in the development of bones and teeth.

Contains fascinating photographic comparisons of how modern, processed foods lead to degenerative diseases when abandoning traditional foods, particularly in indigenous groups around the world, including the Swiss, Eskimos, Aborigines of Australia, and Maori of New Zealand and Scottish Islanders.

The Nordic Food Lab

An insightful piece on traditional fermentation methods, including those used by the Vikings that I talked about. This article discusses how the Vikings fermented cod livers in barrels of seawater, allowing natural fermentation to occur over time. The process not only preserved the cod liver oil but also enhanced its nutrient profile, making it more bioavailable.

Andy

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
An update. (I don't want to hog this thread! But what I'm experiencing is a little hard to understand — though I'm not at all worried about it. )

On 6 January, a month ago, I did a purely routine blood test — and found, to my surprise, that my Vitamin D level was way too low, at 22.66.

I immediately started taking 10,000 IU of Vit D3 a day — from a bottle I'd had on the shelf and not used before. (I'd actually ordered it by accident over a year ago. Looking carefully now at the label, the expiry date was Dec 2024.).

I tested it again on 16 Jan, and it had sunk to 17.34. (OMG!)

Dennis observed that I was a walking human petri dish. He explained about Vitamin K2, which I doubled per day immediately.

Two days ago I tested it again, confident that it had to be back to normal. (I'd even followed Vicus' advice and — carefully! — rolled up my sleeves in all but the most piercing mountain sunshine.)

But my level had crept up to merely 19.97, still lower than a month previously.

I even emailed the laboratory head (a doctor in biochemistry) and asked her to very kindly double-check the numbers. She did, and assured me that the test result was good.

So now I'm changing the brand of my D3.

I'm suspecting that with an expiry date of Dec 2024, the impressively labeled 10,000 IU capsules may have become impotent, with almost nothing in them. (Internet searches suggest D3 does lose potency over time.)

I'll test it again in a couple of weeks, after taking 2x 4000 IU capsules per day of a new brand which I've just bought locally.

So, in summary:

• I'm not worried about this at all. I feel fine in every way. It's merely an odd mystery to solve.
• If it's the brand or the bottle that's the problem (actually delivering little or nothing!), that'd be quite a lesson to learn.
• The whole thing does make me wonder what unknowns might be lying in potential ambush for those many people who never have a blood test of any kind and might have no idea what's out of balance.

No need to reply, or express any concern! All is well. I'll update again here in a couple of weeks, just in case this might be of any value to anyone out there..

Just making a note here that magnesium is required to assimilate vitamin D. It appears to me that magnesium kinda breaks a "rule" of mineral supplementation: a rather narrow, defined range of a daily dose, with problems occurring with too much or too little. Or, maybe magnesium just has a wider range than most minerals? I note that my 500mg magnesium pills (Jadin brand, from Canada), in the form of magnesium bisglycinate, recommends: "1 to 2 capsules, 1 to 3 times daily." That's a range of 500mg to 3000mg per day! That's unusual for minerals - you sure wouldn't want 6x selenium or 6x zinc or 6x iron supplements!

I suspect you're correct that the pills you possess have "half-lived" themselves to death. Maybe the high altitude, higher solar particle radiation breaks down vitamin D? But, if expired D3 doesn't turn out to be the issue (after you replace your vitamin D3), I'd guess it is a missing required co-factor, [magnesium, calcium, zinc, and iron] (and that is most likely magnesium.) The D is also fat soluble, so better to take with a meal containing fat. A squirt of MCT oil or a pat of butter in your coffee would help, if taking fat soluble supplements with just coffee.


{edit, to add} Bill said, "The whole thing does make me wonder what unknowns might be lying in potential ambush for those many people who never have a blood test of any kind and might have no idea what's out of balance."

Dr. John Campbell told us about a study of covid patients in the ICU (Denmark study?) that showed 100% of them had low vitamin D levels. We now know that Vitamin D is a critical component in a healthy immune system - not just "anti-rickets" medicine.

[Mike]

I'll add, for what it's worth, that all supplement brands are most certainly not created equal. Take it from someone who has tried an obscene amount of supplements over the years.

Takes a little trial and error. When trying something new, I almost always seek out supplements that offer 30 day refunds, so I have nothing to lose after I run the experiment.

While it's true that you get what you pay for most of the time, I'm occasionally surprised that a very cheaply priced supplement is far superior than the expensive ones. I just had this happen with a supplement called l-ergothioneine. The Double Wood brand (only $10), I discovered, is far superior to the far more expensive brand I had been using prior.

On the flip side of that coin, replacing a very expensive supplement with something cheaper probably backfires more often than not.

This supplement stuff isn't an exact science. Trial and error is the name of the game. Personally I find that my body responds to certain brands better, and generally speaking prefers gel caps more than powders and tablets. Just a matter of getting it dialed in for your specific physiology.

p.s. Just added a D3/K2 supplement recently. Brand name: Bronson Basics (cheap brand). I'll update here after a few weeks on it.

[Sue (Ayt)]

Recently we sought out a holistic center to help treat my husband's cancer diagnosis. The doc immediately had my husband increase his D3 from 5000 to 10,000. I guess she figured that his level must be low to have allowed the cancer to develop. She also tested his level at the same visit. But when the results came back in a week or so, it said his level was 106. 106???
He backed off right away back to 5000, and is taking it only 3-4 days a week. We were rather surprised that his level was so high, seeing that his immune system apparently allowed the cancer to happen.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
Recently we sought out a holistic center to help treat my husband's cancer diagnosis. The doc immediately had my husband increase his D3 from 5000 to 10,000. I guess she figured that his level must be low to have allowed the cancer to develop. She also tested his level at the same visit. But when the results came back in a week or so, it said his level was 106. 106???
He backed off right away back to 5000, and is taking it only 3-4 days a week. We were rather surprised that his level was so high, seeing that his immune system apparently allowed the cancer to happen.

Sue, I'm sending good thoughts and healing vibes your way, and your husband's! If his D levels are abnormally high, I'd wonder about his calcium blood levels, too. If he's not taking K2 (or eating grass-fed red meat or butter or natto...) then he may have a crazy high level of calcium in the blood (which will find sluggish spots in arteries to deposit the calcium.) The D3, K2, and magnesium is a "holy trifecta" we need to balance.


THC, - the fun stuff in cannabis - is also powerfully anti-cancer. THC is anti-angiogenic (stops creating new blood vessels to support the cancer), and turns apoptosis back on, in cancer cells, so they can die. I spoke with the director/documentarian for the movie "What If Cannabis Cured Cancer?", and he told me he made the title a question to avoid the FDA (big pharma's gangster pals) coming down on him. [Very nice guy - also allowed me to embed his documentary in my original 'Reset Button' website.] Ask Rick Simpson if cannabis cures cancer. (He claims to have cured thousands of people's cancers, before Canada ran him out of Canada. The "Rick Simpson protocol" for taking full spectrum cannabis oil remains a standard among caregivers. ) Ask GW Pharmaceuticals in the UK if cannabis cures cancer. (GW Pharmaceuticals holds a patent for full spectrum cannabis oil against glioblastoma.)

[thepainterdoug]

On Vit D I take 10,000 iu a day. When first doing, it gave me a little heart pain. I learned to back off and then up it slowly again. Now is fine. Im not sure why i felt that but it was definitely the D

And 100% on Colloidal silver for most all else. Remember to take your pre=pro biotics along with it

[norman]

I can't decide if this guy is just a crank or a crank and geeky genius.

He's VERY down on Vit D supplementation and some of the reasoning he goes through, although way over my head, kinda makes sense.

Help me figure this out.
note the date, 2015


Myers Detox Podcast - Rethinking Vitamin D with Morley Robbins
59 minutes - Posted Mar 25, 2015


Show notes
Morley Robbins is back on the podcast this week! This time around he's teaching us about why we may need to start rethinking Vitamin D supplementation. Vitamin D is harmful if you don't need it.
It's a controversial topic but we're gonna talk about it anyway! Morley does not think that the majority of people taking Vitamin D should be taking it. Too much can induce Vitamin D toxicity. Everywhere we turn nowadays, from the grocery store to the blogosphere, it's posted that we need more Vitamin D intake. However, this may not always be true! In this episode of the podcast, Morley is going to share the reasons behind this and the potential health conditions that could be caused by excess Vitamin D supplementation.

[jaybee]

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watched this and thought of this thread -


Wow, my Vit D is low (14:00)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DEGJgQjdfyo

video description...

19 Feb 2025
Despite taking 4,000 to 8,000 units per day for the past few months.

National Institute for Health and Care Excellence

NICE

Do not routinely test for vitamin D deficiency in people who are asymptomatic.

https://cks.nice.org.uk/topics/vitami...

Check the vitamin D level by measuring serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25[OH]D) if a person has:

Musculoskeletal symptoms

Suspected osteomalacia.

Chronic widespread pain with other features of osteomalacia (such as proximal muscle weakness).

Suspected bone disease that may be improved with vitamin D treatment, such as osteomalacia or osteoporosis.

Known bone disease, where correction of vitamin D deficiency is needed prior to specific treatment, such as:

Prior to Paget's disease treatment with a bisphosphonate.

Note: asymptomatic people at higher risk of vitamin D deficiency do not need routine testing for vitamin D deficiency,

but should be advised on the need for maintenance dose vitamin D supplementation.

I suspect it's all going to depend on absorption no matter how much Vit D supplement one takes...

I don't know if I'm Vit D deficient or not (but I have recently taken some in that fizzy drink form - with a fizzy tablet of magnesium as well...and vit C with it - so don't know if that's a good thing to do or not - to mix those three things - but I've done it anyway -)

on the subject of vitamins....

I know I'm low on Vit12 after a blood test at doctors... they wanted me to have the injections but I am suspicious of injections after the whole covid mRNA business....plus not convinced squirting a high amount into the body is an ok, long term thing to do - so for now - I've now got a Vit B12 supplement from the doctor and I'm doing a couple of things to try and help the absorption and increase my intake - then I'm having another blood test in 3 months...

Back to the Dr John Campbell video... looking at the comments below video - saw this....

I appreciate the JD Vance portrait in the background ☺️ I take 5000 IUD as I am generally very low, sub 10, and now sit around 70. Amazes me how shocked and concerned doctors are when I tell them I take 5000, and then when they check the safety of this, they tell me to keep going 🤔🙄 feel like I'm educating them.

re the bolded in above comment..... made me smile

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by jaybee (here)
watched this and thought of this thread -

Wow, my Vit D is low (14:00)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DEGJgQjdfyo

And so is mine — still. It's baffling to me. I feel 100% fine, I'm not sick, I'm not anxious about this in any way and it's really just a very minor mystery, but I can't raise my Vit D levels whatever I do.

I don't want to bore anyone with this! But here's the history. These tests were done at 2 week intervals.

1. After taking 5000 IU every 2 days for ever: 22.66.
2. So I changed to 10000 IU per day (a different brand, now 4x as much): 17.34.
3. Then I doubled my K2, to 1400 mcg/day: 19.97.
4. Then I changed to 8000 IU per day (a different brand from a new bottle: 20.53.

After (3), my hypothesis was that both my 5000 and 10000 bottles had date-expired (I'd had them for. long time), and so I figured the the potency had dropped to almost nothing.

Then I bought a new bottle off the shelf. But the results in (4) showed almost no difference. (I tested my magnesium as well, and that's at a high normal.)

NOW, I'm taking 10000 IU from the old bottle + 8000 IU from the new bottle (= 18000 IU/day), and I'll check it again one more time in another couple of weeks. (Fortunately, testing is super-cheap here!)

If it's still low, my last remaining hypothesis, the only one I have left, is that the testing is flawed and I need to go to a different lab.

~~~

Does anyone have a clue what might be happening here?

Once again: this isn't a serious problem at all. It's merely puzzling. I'm hoping this isn't cluttering up the thread, and might somehow be useful or interesting to someone reading this.

[Harmony]

Cod liver oil is suppose to have the right combination of Vit D, Vit. A and K2 that work together. It's good to find one without preservatives if you can and use it up before the useby date.

[grapevine]

Are you taking enough magnesium Bill (leafy greens, nuts and pulses)? As I understand it, the magnesium takes a key role in activating the Vitamin D3, but if you're taking a supplement ideally shouldn't be taken together.

There are many different kinds of magnesium. Magnesium Glycinate appears to be the go-to
Magnesium doesn't show up in blood tests evidently:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vy793DixQTg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7lSQ2hnycLg

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Does anyone have a clue what might be happening here?

Vitamin D is a pro hormone and or a vitamin in human body that is vital for hundreds and hundreds of chemical reactions, it's absolutely vinyl for optimal health. There are supplements out there that I talked about in the past but the more I learn, I realize that we need to get all of the vitamins and minerals we can from the foods that we eat. We don't want to get these vitamins in a fortified fashion. We want to get them from real whole foods that actually contain the vitamin in their usable form. I'm going to tell you the top 10 vitamin D rich foods that I recommend and five myths about vitamin D.

• The top 10 myths begin @ 6:03

Top 10 VITAMIN D Rich Foods + 5 Vit D Myths - 2024

• KenDBerryMD
• 3.46M subscribers
• Evidence-Based Nutrition + Ancestral Health

Vitamin D is a prohormone/vitamin that facilitates hundreds of vital processes in your body. There are great food-sources of vitamin D, but we are often misled as to which foods contain the most usable Vitamin D.

Vitamin D is bountiful in certain foods, and absent in other food groups. It helps so much to know which is which because your health depends on it. Use this list to stock your fridge and pantry with Vitamin D rich foods. This is the Vitamin D & K Complex supplement I use.

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Ken Berry, MD & Kim Howerton

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Blood Labs can be some of the most easily checked and most useful tests we can run to evaluate our health. But in today's rushed doctor visit world, we find doctors with no time or attention to really explain what tests to get, why to get them much less what the results mean.

Dr. Ken Berry found that countless people were seeking him out to make sense of their blood work, and he knew he had to do something to put the power back in their hands.

Teaming together with health coach Kim Howerton, they set out to write a common sense, easy to follow yet comprehensive look at basic blood work. Putting the power of health back in the hands of the people.

7 Signs of Low Vitamin D (How Many do You Have?) 2024

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So many people in the industrialized nations are deficient in Vitamin D, it is truly an epidemic. When you consider that it is not just a vitamin, but also a pro-hormone, you can begin to understand the importance of this deficiency.

Vitamin D deficiency can lead to weakened bones, yes, but it can also lead to weakened immune systems as well. The risk of cancer, and many other illnesses, increases with a dropping vitamin D level.

The best way to get Vitamin D is from the Sun and from your diet. If you live too far north for the Sun, and can't get enough in your diet, then you should supplement. Having a healthy Vitamin D level is very important to your good health and longevity.

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[Bill Ryan]

Posted by grapevine (here)
Are you taking enough magnesium Bill (leafy greens, nuts and pulses)? As I understand it, the magnesium takes a key role in activating the Vitamin D3, but if you're taking a supplement ideally shouldn't be taken together.

Thanks! My magnesium level was 2.93 mg/dl. That's actually a little high, but I have zero symptoms of too much magnesium. I take a supplement (in the evening, not in the morning with my D3), and also eat lots of pumpkin seeds, spinach, avocados and dark chocolate.

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
7 Signs of Low Vitamin D (How Many do You Have?)

None at all!

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
The best way to get Vitamin D is from the sun and from your diet.

Yes, 100% agreed. Sun is a problem, as I have pale skin and can burn really easily. On top of that, at 12,000—14,000 ft where I hike here at the equator the UV is literally off the scale. And if it's cloudy/cool, I have my sleeves rolled down anyway. So paradoxically, I don't get that much sun on my skin.

Re diet, I eat LOTS of eggs, butter, cheese, yogurt, and full-fat raw milk (at least a pint a day).

Posted by Sue (Ayt) (here)
Recently we sought out a holistic center to help treat my husband's cancer diagnosis. The doc immediately had my husband increase his D3 from 5000 to 10,000. I guess she figured that his level must be low to have allowed the cancer to develop. She also tested his level at the same visit. But when the results came back in a week or so, it said his level was 106. 106???
He backed off right away back to 5000, and is taking it only 3-4 days a week. We were rather surprised that his level was so high, seeing that his immune system apparently allowed the cancer to happen.

Sue, that's just bewildering. It feels near-impossible (for me!) to understand. Comparing his 106 level with mine — super-low, at just 20! — no rational explanation seems available. (And to compound all that, I know my own immune system is strong)