Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1897347584408347060

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1897391791256822003

[Ravenlocke]

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JUST IN 🔴

Senior U.S. official: The Trump administration is considering allowing Israel to extend sovereignty over Judea and Samaria and is not ruling out applying the “Gaza Plan” there as well.

U.S. discussions include proposals to transform parts of the region into a joint American-Israeli project, while promoting Palestinian emigration to Sinai and Jordan.

https://x.com/Osint613/status/1897396873423397321

[Ravenlocke]

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1897346058075918420

[shaberon]

Illuminating flow of Hasbara excrement:

Israeli spy devices planted by the enemy soldiers in the border towns, South Lebanon, turned later to expose the Zionist forces and their movements.

Those photographing machine, considered to be the eyes of the enemy in the Lebanese territories, are camouflaged in the forms of rocks tree stems, etc.

The Zionist enemy planted those devices at road junctions and near squares, valleys, and important locations in order to capture the movements of any object, vehicle or human spontaneously and instantly.

The Israeli enemy prepares such devices in the occupied Palestinian territories and get them to be planted in highly-camouflaged positions.

Al-Manar reporter Ali Shoeib obtained one of such devices and disclosed many photos captured and saved by the device. The photos expose the Israeli soldiers and their criminality against one of the mosques.destroyed by the Zionist grudge before the withdrawal on February 18, 2025.

As for the rest of this nonsense, it still needs to be destroyed, and, I suppose, atoned for.

[Rizotto]

What about the ceasefire & hostage exchange agreement? Phase 2 was supposed to start now…
What about the hundreds (if not thousands) of Palestinian hostages held by Israel?
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https://www.rt.com/news/613786-trump...warning-hamas/

March 6, 2025

Trump issues ‘last warning’ to Hamas
The Palestinian militant group will be destroyed if the remaining hostages are not released, the US president said

Hamas must release the remaining Israeli hostages or face certain destruction, US President Donald Trump has warned. He issued the threat after the talks about further prisoner swaps between Israel and the Palestinian armed group reportedly stalled.

“Release all of the Hostages now, not later, and immediately return all of the dead bodies of the people you murdered, or it is OVER for you,” the president wrote on his Truth Social platform on Wednesday.

Trump added that he was “sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job.”

“This is your last warning! For the leadership, now is the time to leave Gaza, while you still have a chance,” he wrote. “Also, to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits, but not if you hold Hostages. If you do, you are DEAD!”

Hamas has released 38 captives in exchange for some 2,000 Palestinian prisoners since a ceasefire was signed in January. Israeli authorities believe that at least 22 people are still being held in Gaza, according to Axios.

The first phase of the truce expired on Sunday, and both sides have been accusing each other of non-compliance. The Jerusalem Post reported on Monday that the talks about further swaps were not moving forward. Hamas spokesman Hazem Qassem told CNN on Wednesday that Trump’s threats would “complicate matters regarding the ceasefire agreement.”

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt has confirmed that the US was negotiating directly with Hamas for the first time. “Israel was consulted on this matter,” she told reporters on Wednesday.

Last month, Trump proposed to transform the devastated Gaza into the “Riviera of the Middle East” and suggested that neighboring Arab states should take in the majority of the embattled enclave’s Palestinian population. Arab nations rejected the plan and put forward an alternative reconstruction program for Gaza, which was then rejected by the US and Israel.

The war between Israel and Hamas broke out in October 2023, when Palestinian militants carried out a surprise attack on Israeli cities, leaving some 1,200 people dead and taking around 250 hostages. More than 48,000 Palestinians have since been killed during Israel’s operations in Gaza.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
So much for free speech in the US. The documentary "No Other Land" has just won an Oscar.

Oscar-Winning Film CENSORED in the U.S.?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CTK-7DuSv4I

Note: It's in the Avalon Library, highly recommended.

https://avalonlibrary.net/No_Other_Land_(2024) (folder with subtitle file)

https://avalonlibrary.net/No_Other_L...%282024%29.mp4

[bojancan]

I think that all of us... who are talking about humanity... we should be many of those voices in the wilderness.... yes... it's a wild out there in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon... we should talk more and laud that human rights and dignity have to be for ALL.. not how it is NOW!!!!
It seams to me.. that now will be illegal to criticizes Israel also... Unbelievable!!!


Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E0Qsl5NAQ7I

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I love her very much... love her dearly... only some years older than myself... I respect here as a good actor and she was a voice for those unprivilidge and those effected in wars... she was also having so much tragedies in her own life... she is still struggles with her lungs after years of her hard smoking... she was having heart attack... which was six years ago now... she reportedly revealed that her lungs were only working at 30 percent capacity... due to emphysema.... lost her siblings and daughter.. very sad....


The REAL Antiz*onist Oscars Speech You Need To See

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Fu6K4Ctm9k

[rgray222]

Posted by bojancan (here)
I think that all of us... who are talking about humanity... we should be many of those voices in the wilderness.... yes... it's a wild out there in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon... we should talk more and laud that human rights and dignity have to be for ALL.. not how it is NOW!!!!
It seams to me.. that now will be illegal to criticizes Israel also... Unbelievable!!!


Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E0Qsl5NAQ7I

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I went down this road with a friend the other day. He maintained that Trump was going to arrest anybody on college campuses that protested Israel. After a lot of back and forth and looking at video clips and Trump quotes. He had to admit that Trump said he would have anyone "illegally" protesting on college campuses.

I understand that this would include preventing students from getting to class, preventing campus workers from doing their job, damaging property, setting off fire alarms, obstructing traffic and impeding or resisting the police, as well as other illegal activity.

The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally left out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.

[shaberon]

Posted by rgray222 (here)
The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally left out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.

Good catch.

It's redundant, since local law enforcement would deal with "illegal occupations". Nobody federal need be involved.

It's like the "end of free speech" posted a few months back, which is already a law directed at the federal bursar...just guidelines on sending out checks, not a Big Brother in your closet.

However, this president's personal view is:


"If you are a Hamas supporter, we don't want you in this country".

So, the technically-enforceable aspect has little to do with de facto existence. If I get in a fight with my neighbor, it's not because we were citing statutes at each other. This is a huge problem.


Al Green just got removed for interrupting him. Impeach Trump Again now has Palestine as its no. 1 issue out of many. He keeps cranking articles but even Newsweek will say there is no support. Apparently the speech showed a deep bi-partisan divide, but, it is speculated the Democrats would rather run their mouths and complain, than actually act on the articles.

I am non-plussed on how any group can permit someone to outrageously foist Zionist delirium. It is not now and never will be acceptable.

[Rizotto]

Posted by rgray222 (here)

Posted by bojancan (here)
I think that all of us... who are talking about humanity... we should be many of those voices in the wilderness.... yes... it's a wild out there in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon... we should talk more and laud that human rights and dignity have to be for ALL.. not how it is NOW!!!!
It seams to me.. that now will be illegal to criticizes Israel also... Unbelievable!!!


Trump: ARREST Gaza Protesters - "FREE SPEECH" Lies Exposed

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E0Qsl5NAQ7I

]

I went down this road with a friend the other day. He maintained that Trump was going to arrest anybody on college campuses that protested Israel. After a lot of back and forth and looking at video clips and Trump quotes. He had to admit that Trump said he would have anyone "illegally" protesting on college campuses.

I understand that this would include preventing students from getting to class, preventing campus workers from doing their job, damaging property, setting off fire alarms, obstructing traffic and impeding or resisting the police, as well as other illegal activity.

The keyword which this guy and the mainstream media intentionally left out is ILLEGALLY protesting. As long as protester abide by the law, they can protest to their hearts' content.

It's a troubling question, especially since it's quite unclear what Trump meant exactly. Look up the video below at 1:28, Trump mentions that: "Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came." I just looked up the definition of 'agitator', and it does not necessarily mean something violent or illegal. One can be an 'agitator' for political reforms.

Trump is treading on very thin ice with this move. The optics are terrible. And there is a high potential for abuse or power. He should backtrack.

Trump CRACKS DOWN On Free Speech! w/ Matt Taibbi

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TdnNYBapTF4

[Rizotto]

Great interview by Kim Iversen with professor Jeffrey Sachs. The first part is mostly about Europe, NATO and Russia.

At 28:45 the discussion turns specifically to the topic of Israel's warfare against several middle eastern countries over several decades, by enrolling US' military power. One of the big question is whether Trump will cave in to Netanyahu's pressure to start a war against Iran. Sach's advice: 'Don't be a patsy for Netanyahu/Israel'.

Jeffrey Sachs Just Exposed the Truth They Don’t Want You to Hear

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=z3m4vB1FHeI

[gini]

Matt Taibbi. is calling it a' blind spot' but Jimmy thinks its the power of the Israel lobby. ..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TdnNYBapTF4

---21 min --7/3/25--'Trump CRACKS DOWN On Free Speech! 'w/ Matt Taibbi 7 Mar 2025 #TheJimmyDoreShow
'In what can only be described as a stunning reversal on a key political issues, Republicans have now seized the mantle of supporting free speech away from Democrats — mostly owing to Democrats’ support for efforts to counter what they call “misinformation” and “hate speech” online. But now Donald Trump appears to be willing to crack down on speech he doesn’t like as well, in particular criticisms of Israel and support for Palestinians.'

Jimmy and investigative journalist Matt Taibbi discuss just how much Trump’s proposed measures against protesters will undermine his free speech bona fides among the MAGA faithful.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
It's a troubling question, especially since it's quite unclear what Trump meant exactly. Look up the video below at 1:28, Trump mentions that: "Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came." I just looked up the definition of 'agitator', and it does not necessarily mean something violent or illegal. One can be an 'agitator' for political reforms.

Perhaps if you consider the context, it would be more clear what Trump meant.

What were the very two words immediately preceding that sentence you quote beginning with the word "Agitators" ?

[Rizotto]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Rizotto (here)
It's a troubling question, especially since it's quite unclear what Trump meant exactly. Look up the video below at 1:28, Trump mentions that: "Agitators will be imprisoned/or permanently sent back to the country from which they came." I just looked up the definition of 'agitator', and it does not necessarily mean something violent or illegal. One can be an 'agitator' for political reforms.

Perhaps if you consider the context, it would be more clear what Trump meant.

What were the very two words immediately preceding that sentence you quote beginning with the word "Agitators" ?

To answer your question, the sentence before mentions "illegal protests". But again, it's all very unclear. What's an "illegal protest" exactly? Protests are a form of free speech, and we need to be careful when deeming certain protests as "illegal". For example, in Canada the 2022 truckers protests were called 'illegal' by the Turdeau regime, who had many peaceful protesters beaten up and arrested by police. Later a judge determined with a court ruling that the truckers' protests were legal. Of course there was some civic disruption surrounding the truckers' protests, that's the goal of protests to get in people's face because there is some grievous wrong being committed.

Let's keep in mind the really important and bigger context of the pro-Palestinian protests that have taken place in the US, which is Israel's GENOCIDE of Palestinians in the most brutal and cruel ways, and stealing Palestinian lands. Israel has been committing these crimes for decades, with US military support. The fact is, USA is complicit in this genocide. (See the video entitled "Jeffrey Sachs Just Exposed the Truth They Don’t Want You to Hear" in my #7872 post above.)

We all know here that Trump is a big supporter of Israel, and received campaign funding from the Israel lobby. He is on record for saying "I do what they tell me."
We all know that Israel will do everything to suppress the truth about the crimes they're committing against the Palestinians, including assassinating journalists who try to report the facts.

[Rizotto]

Censorship against Palestine has taken many forms, here’s one more example:
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https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2...id-of-no-other

Why is America afraid of ‘No Other Land’?
The widely acclaimed film has failed to find a US distributor because it reveals truths Americans should not see.

On Sunday, the Israeli-Palestinian co-production No Other Land was awarded an Academy Award for best documentary. The Oscar – a first for Palestine – has now been added to the list of 45 awards that the film has won since its release in 2024, including best documentary in the 2024 European Film Awards, the 2024 Berlin International Film Festival, and the 2024 Gotham Awards.

The feature has received widespread critical acclaim and glowing five-star reviews in international media. It has been screened around the world and has consistently sold out in independent screenings in the United States. And yet, no US distributor would pick it up to show it nationwide. The only reason for that is its subject matter: Palestine.

The documentary follows the lives of Palestinian communities in Masafer Yatta, an area near Hebron in the southern occupied West Bank, which the Israeli army has declared a “military zone”. Under this pretext, Israeli troops and illegal settlers regularly harass its residents and destroy their houses, rendering them homeless. The story is told through the lens of co-directors Basel Adra, a Palestinian activist, and Yuval Abraham, an Israeli journalist.

This raw, harrowing depiction of Israel’s ongoing crimes is something distributors are clearly afraid of showing. And this is in a country that prides itself on its constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech.

The distributors’ fear is a great illustration of just how massive the campaign is to erase Palestine in the US, affecting every aspect of public life – from education to the media, and to arts and cinema.
Of course, anti-Palestinian censorship is nothing new. Since 1948, Palestinian culture and history have continually faced attempted erasure as Israel has tried to justify its land grab, claiming the Palestinian people do not exist and have no right to their own land. This narrative has also dominated public perceptions in Western countries that have supported Israel throughout its existence – foremost among them the United States.
Maintaining this narrative has been key to continuing political support.

If the American public is exposed to more information about what is happening in Palestine, if Palestinians are humanised in the mainstream, if they are given a platform to tell their stories of experiencing genocide and apartheid, then public opinion would start shifting dramatically.

It already is. Various polls over the past year showed that Americans, especially Democrats, disagreed with their government’s policies on Israel-Palestine. The majority of Democrats supported a ceasefire in Gaza when President Joe Biden’s administration was refusing to endorse it. This stance ultimately cost Kamala Harris countless votes in the presidential election.

A significant change in public opinion on Israel-Palestine would make it hard for the US Congress to sustain the multibillion-dollar financing of the Israeli military and political support for occupation and apartheid.

(continued… See full article at link above)

[Rizotto]

Perhaps Galloway is being metaphorical when saying 'DNA tests aren't allowed in Israel'. But overall he makes a brilliant case about the absurdity of designating a certain piece of land for a particular religion.
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"Religion cannot be native to any land. You can't convert to Judaism and claim the house of family in Palestine who have lived there thousands of years"

You're not allowed to have a DNA test in Israel

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8odolfULrYs

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Protests are a form of free speech, and we need to be careful when deeming certain protests as "illegal".

Yes, good point. We do need to be careful here.

• Sometimes color revolutions intended to illegally overthrow legitimate governments will seek the protection of being "free speech".
  
• Sometimes "free speech" is suppressed by the false claim that it's an "illegal insurrection".

There is no universally accepted determination of which is which that we can all agree on, in all cases.

But both exist, and each requires a distinct response.

The patient reader of our interactions and posts this last day can see the difficulty of this determination in plain view:

• One of us (I'm pretty sure) figures that what happened around and in the Capitol building in Washington DC on the afternoon of Jan 6, 2021 was a violent insurrection such as requires legal restraint and prosecution,
• while the other of us (I'm quite sure) figures that what happened then and there was part of an attempted color revolution to overthrow our government that was blamed by the actual perpetrators on the intended victims of that coup attempt who were in their own minds engaging in legally protected free speech.

Four years plus later, and it's still controversial to even note that the above controversy remains and is unsettled. We apparently agree that an insurrection was attempted, but disagree on who was attempting it.

[Rizotto]

Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Protests are a form of free speech, and we need to be careful when deeming certain protests as "illegal".

Yes, good point. We do need to be careful here.

• Sometimes color revolutions intended to illegally overthrow legitimate governments will seek the protection of being "free speech".
  
• Sometimes "free speech" is suppressed by the false claim that it's an "illegal insurrection".

There is no universally accepted determination of which is which that we can all agree on, in all cases.

But both exist, and each requires a distinct response.

The patient reader of our interactions and posts this last day can see the difficulty of this determination in plain view:

• One of us (I'm pretty sure) figures that what happened around and in the Capitol building in Washington DC on the afternoon of Jan 6, 2021 was a violent insurrection such as requires legal restraint and prosecution,
• while the other of us (I'm quite sure) figures that what happened then and there was part of an attempted color revolution to overthrow our government that was blamed by the actual perpetrators on the intended victims of that coup attempt who were in their own minds engaging in legally protected free speech.

Four years plus later, and it's still controversial to even note that the above controversy remains and is unsettled. We apparently agree that an insurrection was attempted, but disagree on who was attempting it.

To be clear, I personally do NOT view the January 6 event as an insurrection. I'm not aware that the rioters used violence, looks to me like the only violence that occurred was the police shooting and killing one protester, unprovoked, or way over the top reaction.

I also recall that the whole situation started with a rally where Trump encouraged attendees to go to the Capitol PEACEFULLY, as is the right of American to protest in public places. Did he instruct anyone to actually break into the place? I don't think so. Overall, it seems that the Dems' deep state set this up as a trap, i.e. positioning agents that opened the Capitol's doors to the protesters. Looks to me like the set up and subsequent arrests of protesters was designed to distract from the obvious fact that the 2020 election results were fraudulent.

So, January 6 turned into a riot, but not an insurrection in my opinion. But, hey, I'm Canadian, and not particularly knowledgeable on what exactly happened that day.
I used the January 6 Trump speech just as an example that an 'agitator' isn't necessarily inciting violence or insurrection. Trump did neither.

Back to topic: pro-Palestinian 'agitators' are not necessarily insurrectionists, nor inciting violence. They just want the genocide of Palestinians to stop, and they ask that the USA stops sending weapons to Israel.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Rizotto (here)
But, hey, I'm Canadian, and not particularly knowledgeable on what exactly happened that day.

Most of us Americans aren't sure what happened either.

Posted by Rizotto (here)
I used the January 6 Trump speech just as an example that an 'agitator' isn't necessarily inciting violence or insurrection. Trump did neither.

That makes sense.

Posted by Rizotto (here)
Back to topic: pro-Palestinian 'agitators' are not necessarily insurrectionists, nor inciting violence. .

Yup - not necessarily.