Liberation Day: US Tariffs on Everyone

[jaybee]

Posted by sllim11 (here)
so i do not know anything about this topic or understand tariffs. that said, why would he be doing this? is he clueless or does he want america to fail or does he know something we don't know? it does seem very scary. could he be playing chess not checkers? i mean he wants to be seen in a good light so why would he be doing this if it's so catastrophic? i am very confused smh! does anyone have any ideas?

I think Trump's aims with the reciprocal tariffs is to level the playing field - to benefit the American worker and boost the American economy -

At the same time this pulls the brakes on the One World Government Globalist Plan - because America has been used to finance the Globalist Agenda (ie through USAID and other ways - one of those 'other ways' being the imbalance in trading tariffs where America taxpayers become like a NWO charity to help other countries while allowing neglect of their own economic affairs...) -

There's also the whole business of the dollar having been the world's reserve currency which generated wealth for the US but that's coming to an end ? and the massive debt and continual money printing was rising and rising (exponentially?)- so to prevent America going bankrupt something had to be done..... that's what I think is going on - although I'm more on the philosophy and art side of things rather than economics... .... so I hope I'm grasping the situation correctly...

There is a post from mountain_jim on the Tucker Carlson thread HERE....... an interview where Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent explains the administration’s new tariffs, and why we had to do something to stop the slide.

that explains details that I can't....

basically I think what you see is more or less what you get with Trump and although he is sometimes like a Bull in a China Shop... ..... and when it comes to the Tariffs this is literally what he is - curbing Chinese exports to America by stopping the Globalist's - the NWO's 'charitable' tariff imbalance ....

re the bolded in your quote - well you DID ask.... :-) - and don't forget to factor in the 24/7 anti Trump PSYOP that creates confusion and the mental condition called Trump Derangement Syndrome - THAT is making people nervous about Trumps radical, revolutionary attempt to rescue the US economy.....and at the same time weaken the Deep State covert plans -

[DNA]

I don't think you can rely on economics professors and the like for a real answer and or solution.

They simply don't have the necessary information to make a formula that could come close to showing what is going on.

And even in the arena of known quantities it's like they wear blinders and review economic strategies from the 18th century.

In a world with businesses drastically subsidized by their home country and or in the case of China using slave labor via their prison system...
Tariffs are the least we can do to defend our regional economies.

[norman]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I feel I have to say: I do not have a good feeling about this.

I feel the same.

I feel what ever they are doing is extremely dangerous. One of the most dangerous things one can do another is mess with their money and financial security.

The global markets are leaking at the seams and I imagine many world leaders are pissed. Wars have started due to financial strangulation before.

I'm trying to remain optimistic but I feel a knot in my gut about this.

The elephant in the room is a pending declaration of war by the United States.

The country has been attacked and hit. It either rolls over and dies, or fights a full blown defensive war and wins it. It's no good any of us chattering away about "dangerous". It's war and America didn't start it.

There's an audience inertia that is still stuck in the fake peace trance. This is not peace time. A marauding enemy is trampling across the world hell bent on total global victory and domination. We can choose to bend over or we can choose to defend ourselves. For most of us, the worst that can happen is about the same, either way.

For myself, I'm primarily choosing a 'side' spiritually more than by physicality. In this world, that seems to manifest in a way that's more about opposing one side more determinedly than opposing the other side. Neither side is my 'home team' spiritually. They all jack around with manipulative games to rewire my natural faith to run through their political and ideological circuits as 'current times potential difference equals power'.

President Trump’s Tariffs Broke China

Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v6phfzn/?pub=4

[Merkaba360]

I've worked deeply in statecraft with various governments and heads of state, examining tradeoffs among all levers of state power—military, economic, human capital, etc. Trump's playbook is multifaceted, but most observers analyze it in silos and miss the bigger picture. - Tanvi Ratna

https://x.com/tanvi_ratna/status/1907880105369845865

Dang I really like this lady's rundown on what's going with the whole economic and trump NWO which gives further insight into the tariffs. Makes sense that one big reason for the tariffs is to bring down the 10 year yield to refinance the debt. I didn't know that.

Makes alot more sense when you see the calculations below, that the tariffs are needed to bring the 10 year yield down from 4.79% (janaury 2025 and highest since 2007, when it crashed cuz of the housing crisis), which he already did somewhat in just 2 months.

According to AI , currently the average yield for the $36.5 Trillion debt is 3.3%. So, I'd guess they want to drive it down to at least 3% and refinance as early as possible to lock in the next 10 years. That gives enough time to build up manufacturing and huge leaps in tech innovation with AI and such.

In just 2 months Mr. T. got the 10 year yield down 0.62% (was at 4.79%), as of April 4 its down 0.78% (4.01%). About $15 trillion of the debt needs to be refinanced in 2025 and 2026. That would save $117 BILLION per year for paying interest on the debt. $285 billion/yr if saved 0.78% on the whole debt.

The yield has gotten as low as ~0.5% in the past but rare. Driving it down to 2-3.0% is possible and which it was during Trumps first term (0.9 % in 2020 for covid scare) I assume the rates that need to be refinanced in 2025 are whatever they were around 2015. Looking more into it, that time period rates were around 1.8-2.5% Its only been since 2022 that its been above 3%.

So, imagine how bad the debt woulda got with Biden in office paying 4.8% up from 2% ten years ago on the debt that is due. Trump will push hard to get it back down to near that. I heard a prediction of another pandemic, but this one short lived. Imagine if they engineered a short term scare like that to get it down super low like 2020.

I get so tired of reading comments who are so sure the plan is utterly stupid or whatever, ignoring that the alternative was to let them keep playing the same game and create hyperinflation until a horrible depression has us on our knees and then present their nefarious digital reset. God forbid have an efficient non wasteful economy and be hard nosed in business deals. Somehow that's bullying and pissing on all your "friends" who are doing the same thing. lol

If DOGE can go worldwide and erase 20% of govt' waste/fraud spending, thats quite an improvement to help increase the standard of living.

What do y'all think about her views on tariffs and connection to refinancing the debt ? anything im missing?

[Sirus]

I'm giving it 6 months before I pass any judgement. The best thing the UK could do now is offer a reciprocal 0% tariff and negotiate the same from Trump. We'd then become a phenomenal trading hub to America, used by Europe and beyond.

[Merkaba360]

Maybe they are willing to create enough hardship to crack the EU and China. A revolution in China almost surely ends communism there and probably North Korea by proxy. Vietnam is communist and has a 46% tariff as well. Cambodia is kinda socialist or something arent they, thats 49%. In the US, it wouldnt uproot the constitution. So, if things go bad, that might be the positive.

Maybe they are sending a huge message and a big enough shock to get the 10 year yield down, refinance the debt, say "psych" and then reduce many tariffs. Keep the ones that are needed to ensure US sovereignty via essential manufacturing.

Maybe its the art of the deal. Ive got more balls and am crazier than you. Re-negotiate or else. Then, he gets to settle for good deals that seem nice compared to the crazy ones that were imposed based off of exaggerated tariffs on the US.

People gotta quit talking about this stuff like trump is unilaterally doing all of this. These are secret society factions. They got really deep knowledge on everything, even though the system is so complex and beyond anyones ability to foresee all outcomes. They aren't just making nonsensical decisions cuz Trump just has no clue.

[I am B]

As an european, I can see how this is being used as a "shock and awe" strategy to massively push a CBDCs and digital identity system. And this doesn't feel as an oportunistic thing at all, its is being done in collaboration EU+US.

"Putin is going to attack us and Trump is breaking the economy, we need to find an alternative for us. Digital identity. Digital money. All under european control."

Spain is bringing up mandatory app supported identity cards by next year, and bills are getting a rule reform that makes it easier to take them out of circulation.

I feel this is just to get people fooled, create shock, and push undercover agendas. I wonder which ones will be in the US, but it seems obvious to me which ones are being pushed in the EU.

Seems very plausible to me that the next step in the US would be a narrative or event (even a black swan), or basically "a shock" to push CBDCs there too.

[Bill Ryan]

I found this very interesting. The reason I'm posting this Megan Kelly video is because at 2:03 there's a short clip of 41-year old Donald Trump talking to 34-year old Oprah Winfrey way back in 1988 — about tariffs.

This may be useful context to his current actions, showing that (rightly or wrongly!) his views on the issue have remained unchanged for the last 36+ years.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=u5bRSbH4UUc

[sllim11]

weird i did not make that in bold letters when i posted ?

anyway, yeah the end of globalization and bringing everything back home to america, that makes sense. Not sending billions to ukraine and isreal sounds good to me.

also, yeah the trump deranged syndrome and the elon deranged syndrome is real and happening rn in los angeles. there are some people putting stickers over their tesla emblem on their cars and people are ditching their tesla bc they don't want to be associated. smh. LA is crazy town about all of this. like if you say you do not/did not like biden/harris you are ostracized !!! makes me want to move lol.

i heard today newsom wants to do his own tarrifs, meaning california won't have those tariffs! LA LA LAND

[jaybee]

Posted by sllim11 (here)
weird i did not make that in bold letters when i posted ?

anyway, yeah the end of globalization and bringing everything back home to america, that makes sense. Not sending billions to ukraine and isreal sounds good to me.

also, yeah the trump deranged syndrome and the elon deranged syndrome is real and happening rn in los angeles. there are some people putting stickers over their tesla emblem on their cars and people are ditching their tesla bc they don't want to be associated. smh. LA is crazy town about all of this. like if you say you do not/did not like biden/harris you are ostracized !!! makes me want to move lol.

i heard today newsom wants to do his own tarrifs, meaning california won't have those tariffs! LA LA LAND

re the bolded (by me) above...... ...... no that was me - I bolded it and I suppose I should have said - 'bolded by me'.....

What you said about being ostracized for stepping out of line re Biden/Harris in LA .... I think a big part of the anti Trump / anti Musk PSYOP is to conjure up the fear of being ostracized - because it's a powerful primitive emotion that, at it's root, is about survival instincts - in times gone by if a member of a group/tribe was ostracized that could mean death for them..... :/

[jaybee]

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Latest report from 'RJ Talks'.....

about the Tariffs - the time scale - Elon speaking about Free Trade - Scot Bessent, secretary of the Treasury making some very interesting comments about how he and the Trump Administration are seeking to lift the bottom 50% of the economic hierarchy out of a desperate situation where even working families have to use the food banks... I mean - isn't this supposed to be the Democrat's area of interest...? but we can be sure they won't be supporting it - because.... because..... 'Orange Man Bad'..... and agree with him at your (career) peril....

about the Soros family spending vast amounts of money to HIRE protesters to get out on the streets so it looks like ordinary people - the grass roots are against Elon Musk and DOGE - but they are basically EMPLOYED by some factions of the mega rich Globalists who are loosing money and influence and have their backs against the wall...?

about curbing the power of Federal District Judges to interfere in Nationwide presidential decisions....
and some strange dictates from Gavin Newsom about older children using booster cushions in cars and sitting in the back seat - sometimes because of their height.... I'm wondering what adults of short stature will be allowed to do if this is a pressing issue...?


Treasury Secretary Slips BIG Hint About Trump Tariff Strategy With Tucker Carlson (18:22)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mMNxft1rc0Q

[norman]

The freest of free markets has always been the investment market.

What is most likely to happen if or when currencies around the world buckle and crumble in the tariffs storm. ?

Investors will have to gamble on where the best safe haven is. There's only so much gold.

They're going to have to pick a currency and hang their hats on it. I guess the 'Trump' people are counting on that currency being the external US dollar, by the time they've exposed the attack on America is about to be countered with a very big stick.

[lunaflare]

My brain is not able to comprehend tariffs and the whole shake up going on in terms of trade etc. I feel President Trump knows what he is doing and making America "strong" economically is his vision. The operative word is "feel". Do I know? Nope.
DJT does not like to fail. He is not an evil man, imho, and nor as his team players.

Neptune moved to zero point Aries...potent and not the norm.
Paradigms are shifting. Radically. How we deal with currency is more individuated --each country unto itself--perhaps--rather than the hold of globalization.

[rgray222]

I saw this and couldn't help but think of the Trump tariffs.

[sylviawong]

I have some background in economics and finance. Over the past few centuries, periods of rising globalization have coincided with times of peace, while periods of declining globalization have been marked by war.

[shaberon]

Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
What do y'all think about her views on tariffs and connection to refinancing the debt ? anything im missing?

Yes, this is the critical aspect to be looking at.

Firstly, as a staunch Anti-Federalist, I am going to say at a certain level this is the "correct" move, however, it is being performed by rank amateurs who were appointed to their positions, and one of these buffoons publicly admitted to not knowing that Fort Knox had not been audited in ages.

In the strict sense, the federal government's only legitimate source of income is tariffs. What does that mean? Repeal income tax, beeyotch. Oh, wait, you forgot to do that first.

The ideal is rather than them stealing my money, I voluntarily agree to paying a little extra for something from other countries.

I have no problem with that. Within reason, a surcharge on imported goods is fine.

Of course, at the same time, it is true we have that kind of capitalist who likes "outsourcing" and exploiting all kinds of loopholes to get cheap foreign labor, and these are no better because they believe in charging me income tax too.

We are at an impasse, because either way, the country has been seized by Fascists of some kind or another.


Thanks to this fake, messed-up ball of wax primarily called Income Tax and the Federal Reserve, we are living in a war machine that thrives on Treasury Bonds and hence their yields, volume of sales, etc., which has primarily expanded by American military force in the post-World War II era.

Secondly, because this operates as obvious genocidal megalomania, these people cannot be allowed to hold these offices.

Should something go wrong with the program of Treasuries, it is practically guaranteed the United States will attack something in a major way. This is consistent with the history of finance in Europe and America. Before these modern tweaks, it would simply be called War Debt. Technically, the oldest central bank is in Sweden, but one should note this comes from a time when debt generated by a king was his personal debt.

And so what you have is a system that has moved the obligation onto the shoulders of the people.

If I glance at the Debt Clock right now, the debt per citizen is $107k, but per taxpayer it is $323k.

It's a sport of concealing that from you.

The "citizen" and everyone else isn't paying for that, you are.

In a few months they will re-convene to figure out how to keep up the payments, if they make it that far. I hope not.

The trick is, that kind of debt shouldn't be happening. I'm not trying to sustain those payments. Yes, of course it is technically true that fiddling with some of those percentages will save a little cash, but of course so would drawing down the entire superstructure to its proper size, which is next to nothing. And quietly.

It's just a technicality about kicking the can. It happens to be a can of dire consequences. But those are from the causes that were put in there. Korea, Iran, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Libya...for this system.

[Merkaba360]

Posted by sylviawong (here)
I have some background in economics and finance. Over the past few centuries, periods of rising globalization have coincided with times of peace, while periods of declining globalization have been marked by war.

maybe it depends on what globalization means, and this is the first time of globalization im aware of, so when was there declining globalization?

Im sure those past wars caused more isolationism and less global trade, what is the evidence that it was the reverse and the ending of trade caused the wars. Or was it that the tensions were already building for wars which means the angry leaders started economic wars on each other first cutting ties before leading to hot wars.

Of course globalization is more interconnectedness thru business which is positive. The problem is that we have a cabal that wants to consolidate into a global power and enslave the world in a technocracy. Think id rather have competing high tech robotic societies first to see how that goes so if any of the turn into a slave state there are other states that could stop it as well as places to run to. That is why people are resisting losing national sovereignty to these globalist organizations who clearly suck and are not loving.

[BMJ]

Posted by lunaflare (here)
My brain is not able to comprehend tariffs and the whole shake up going on in terms of trade etc. I feel President Trump knows what he is doing and making America "strong" economically is his vision. The operative word is "feel". Do I know? Nope.
DJT does not like to fail. He is not an evil man, imho, and nor as his team players.

Neptune moved to zero point Aries...potent and not the norm.
Paradigms are shifting. Radically. How we deal with currency is more individuated --each country unto itself--perhaps--rather than the hold of globalization.

I'll see if I can help you with lunaflare.

Tariffs provide protection and stimulate local industry.

I'll give you an example say you buy a chinese made t-shirt for $5 the same USA made t-shirt sell at $10. Then president Trump bumps the tariff on chinese t-shirts say for example 100%.

Now that chinese made t-shirt sells for $10 because they have to add $5 dollars to sell price because of the addition of the tariff and it sells for $10 just like the t-shirt made in the USA.

Most people would like to support local so they would buy the t-shirt made in the USA.

Whats are the flow on effects of the tariffs?

Now because the company making t-shirts in the USA is suddenly selling alot more t-shirts because their t-shirt can now compete with the chinese t-shirts, that means they need more material and more workers.

Those companies providing the material to the T-shirt factory begin to expand their operations also.

Which means the workers and newly employed workers have more income as not only are there more jobs there is probably overtime to.

Then in a broader sense these employees at the t-shirt factory will have more money to spend which means they maybe buying better and more groceries, buy cars taking out home loans and going to the movies more often or eating out more often.

The t-shirt factory workers are inject their monies back into the economy and this has a positive affect across different industries.

The employer may also expand their business to increase production.

Now expand this example across any industry and how the extra income benefits other industries.

Then more industries benefit by the introduction of tariffs in their industry for example automotive, white goods or electronics.

But the pricing of these goods and living is going up ?

Initial yes, but then as the US economy as a whole begins to produce more and sell more the economy gets stronger and so does the US dollar.

So back to that example of the t-shirt now after the tariff and a period of time, the USA made t-shirt can be sold for about say $7. Due to mass production meaning lower production and overhead costs per t-shirt manufactured. This saving is passed of to the consumer as a lower selling price.

(This is why Ford can and is offering their vehicles at employee rates to the public)

Then also because of the increased industry in the USA (which strengthens the economy) it means the value of the USA dollar goes up, meaning you can buy more for your dollar. So where before you could buy maybe just the t-shirt for $10 now you can buy the t-shirt for $7 and a coffee and donut at Gloria Jeans for all up $10.

At this point in time that t-shirt from china might still be selling at around $10, because they can't reduce their costs enough to compete with the USA made t-shirt. So they opt out of importing chinese t-shirts to the USA as they just can't compete.

Which is very bad for the chinese economy which relys on exports to the USA but very good for the US economy .

So the saving comes in part from the increased purchasing power of the dollar and reduced cost in manufacturing per unit.

Whats the other flow on effect?

Now that tariffs are enforced it means that product from overseas at the point of enter in the USA whether it is via a port of airport will need to be visual checked to confirm what it is and the quantity to ensure it is correctly tariffed.

Well hopefully it will be harder to import illegal drugs, traffic people and smuggle illegal weapons amongst other illegal activities as imports will be more carefully scrutinized, in a sense another form of border security.

Also the additional tariffs will be extra government revenue which translate to no more income tax, more money for infrastructure such as rail, roads, hospital and schools.

So now instead of the USA, since at least the 1970s, being over the barrel every other country is over the barrel and taking it, because the USA has the largest economy in the world.

( So chinese idea of expansion in the pacific and becoming a super power is a pipe dream, they are restrained by their soon to be shrinking economy, the CCP and culture and its going to be a long time before they dig themself out of that hole. )

I hope this helps and if you have anyone questions or if someone else has a better way of explaining tariffs feel free to correct me or give your point of view or ask a question.

P.S. From President Trumps Truth Social account

[Bruce G Charlton]

Headline news: Globalists - all over the globe, simultaneously - proclaim "The End of Globalisation..."

That's it - really.

Says it all.

Just think about it, please?

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
Headline news: Globalists - all over the globe, simultaneously - proclaim "The End of Globalisation..."

That's it - really.

Says it all.

Just think about it, please?

Gaslighting at its finest.

I wonder what new name they'll come up with for it....