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    Every morning very good analysis from Alexander... I was very curious about his observation in these moments .... this is from today...

    China Hits Back, Trump Wants Deal, Tariffs Explode; Russian Offensive Gains Speed, AfD Overtakes CDU



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    Trump's administration is beyond nasty and vile... Peasants are means ... to be poor... uneducated ones.... and if you are borrowing from peasants... what does that make you Vance?😂😂
    US was borrowing from China for decades...

    JD Vance under fire after calling Chinese workers "peasants"

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    Chinese Ministry of Commerce: From 12:01 p.m. on April 10, the export of dual-use items to these 12 firms – including American Photonics, Novotech, Inc. and Echodyne – will be prohibited, while any ongoing related export activities must be stopped immediately.

    The other nine entities are Marvin Engeering Company, Inc., Exovera, Teledyne Brown Engineering, Inc., BRINC Drones, Inc., SYNEXXUS, Inc., Firestorm Labs, Inc., Kratos Unmanned Aerial Systems, Inc., Domo Tactical Communications and Insitu, Inc.
    https://x.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1909964460074389688

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    Quote Posted by T Smith (here)
    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Cry Me A River China

    China was happy for the USA to live on food stamps and in tent cities and become a third world country all in an effort to save China, well now the shoes on the other foot China.

    I say to President Trump play chicken with China keep upping the tariffs until it really hurts because we know China will have to relent.
    At roughly a 4:1 trade imbalance, it looks like Trump is driving a bus and Xi Jinping a Volkswagen bug in this particular game of chicken... All other things being equal (which they may not be) not too hard to guess who might swerve first
    According to all of the "experts", we should be seeing a total stock market collapse and we all should be in a food line waiting for a small chunk of cheese right now.

    The wide spread stupidity is fascinating, no one seems to have a clue.

    China needs to stop trying to think this through and just do reciprocal tariffs like Trump wanted from the start before their currency turns to dust.
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    🇪🇺⚔️🇺🇸 BREAKING: EU Imposes 25% Tariffs on US Products

    EU member states have approved a 25% tariff on a broad range of US goods, including almonds, orange juice, poultry, soybeans, steel, aluminium, tobacco, and yachts. The move comes in retaliation for the US's 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium imports from the EU.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1909968226592899423



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    🇺🇸🇪🇺 U.S. Treasury Secretary Warns Europe: Siding with China on Tariffs Is ‘Cutting Your Own Throat’

    Europe would be “cutting its own throat” if it chooses to align with China in a trade war against the United States, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has warned.

    Bessent argued that any country following China’s lead in imposing tariffs on American goods would be acting against its own economic interests.

    “It’s like cutting your own throat,” he said, commenting on the possibility of European governments strengthening trade ties with Beijing.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1910006256841994306

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    Very excited at the potential upcoming market collapse. It's hardly a secret to anyone living in a developed country that standards of living have been steadily dropping and will perhaps rapidly collapse in the near future. These are once in a lifetime opportunities. How many people say, "I wish I had some money hanging around in 1928, me, my children, and my children's children would have been set for life". Learn about money NOW or learn about feudalism later.
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    I was listening George from the beginning... it's still LIVE... very very interesting talk.. off course.. China, US.. tariffs..

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    Of course when he reduced the tariffs few hours later the markets flew way high. Him and his billionnaires oligarchs made billions more (they had money to buy and were told beforehand) while you and I lost our 401 pension founds - RRSP in Canada. This is literally illegal trading and collusion from the US president.
    I have to say, I was shocked at the unexpected news. I've not seen this mentioned yet on any social media commentary, but this does seem to be suspicious (at least!). I'm finding myself wondering if this was all choreographed beforehand, the events of today always part of the plan.

    These might be the immediate outcomes:
    1. Some DC insiders must have made a LOT of money, probably millions, within a few hours.
    2. Wholesale economic war against China has been declared.

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    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
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    I have some background in economics and finance. Over the past few centuries, periods of rising globalization have coincided with times of peace, while periods of declining globalization have been marked by war.
    maybe it depends on what globalization means, and this is the first time of globalization im aware of, so when was there declining globalization?

    Im sure those past wars caused more isolationism and less global trade, what is the evidence that it was the reverse and the ending of trade caused the wars. Or was it that the tensions were already building for wars which means the angry leaders started economic wars on each other first cutting ties before leading to hot wars.

    Of course globalization is more interconnectedness thru business which is positive. The problem is that we have a cabal that wants to consolidate into a global power and enslave the world in a technocracy. Think id rather have competing high tech robotic societies first to see how that goes so if any of the turn into a slave state there are other states that could stop it as well as places to run to. That is why people are resisting losing national sovereignty to these globalist organizations who clearly suck and are not loving.


    It's not really a good name since in the early days, I would have thought I was a "globalist".

    In principle, though, I would say it is the tale of recorded history.

    Ever since about 3,000 B. C. E., obviously not spanning the globe, there nevertheless was the growth of a rather large international trading community.

    Almost all places wind up being a case study in the rise and fall of a parasitical Capitalist class.

    Injunctions against this are in the most critical literature of the world, such as the Code of Hammurabi, the Rosetta Stone, and the Bible. By the epoch of Classical Greece, you are practically reading instruction manuals on this: on the one hand, "institutions" designed by Oligarchy to manipulate the will of the "demos" or "people", and on the other, the knowledge that to win "peoples' alliance" and make a stable, peaceful, is by removing financial bondage.

    So, although this problem kept happening, even in Greece it was dissipated by revolts. The trouble now is that "property" has achieved immortality and that there is no release from the bondage of Lincoln's Empire.

    America, as colonies, Revolutionaries, and the Agricultural Economists, was a place free of things like income taxes and mortgage, and basically armed to the teeth by volunteers ready to chase it out. Temporarily, this was working.

    Modern "globalization" is the outcome of the Jesuit encomienda. Humans are livestock for economic exploitation.

    Exactly what we are going to do with coal today, I am not sure.

    What does it take to make cotton farming a desirable job, and how many t-shirts will you buy?

    Hasn't an extreme dampening of the tobacco industry been caused?

    Don't even start with sugar.

    So many commodities have been "rigged" for a hundred years, they're unreal.

    As much as I am all for "substantial revisions", what is happening seems to be bragadoccio and hubris as usual.

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    A 10-minute perspective published by Kim Iverson an hour ago. She asks:

    Trump’s Tariff Gamble: Boost for America or Death Blow?

    Her answer is Death Blowunless Trump abolishes all Income Tax.


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    Found on the net today:

    The heart of America has always beat to the rhythm of hammers on steel, the hum of factories, and the pride of craftsmen shaping raw materials into something enduring. For too long, we’ve surrendered that heartbeat to the hollow clatter of foreign assembly lines. We traded our sovereignty, our dignity, and the well-being of our people for the fleeting convenience of cheaply made trinkets. But now, with tariffs reshaping the economic landscape, we stand at the threshold of a rebirth—a return to the essence of what made this nation unstoppable. This isn’t just about economics; it’s about resurrecting the soul of America.

    Let’s be clear: the decay of American manufacturing didn’t happen by accident. It was a slow-motion betrayal. We outsourced our jobs, shuttered our factories, and handed over the keys to our prosperity to nations that don’t share our values or our dreams. My grandfather’s refrigerator, bought when he married my grandmother, still runs today. It wasn’t a fluke. It was built by American hands, forged with American steel, and engineered with the kind of pride that doesn’t cut corners. That fridge is a relic of an era when “Made in America” wasn’t a nostalgic slogan—it was a stamp of excellence. Today, we’re surrounded by disposable goods designed to break, replace, and drain our wallets. This isn’t progress. It’s a surrender.

    Tariffs are not punishment. They’re a lifeline. By making it harder for foreign competitors to undercut our industries, we’re forcing a reckoning. Suddenly, it’s no longer cheaper to ship jobs overseas. Suddenly, companies that abandoned our heartland for foreign sweatshops will have no choice but to come home. This is how we rebuild. This is how we stop the bleeding. Critics will whine about “trade wars” or “higher prices,” but what’s the alternative? A nation of consumers, not creators? A people stripped of purpose, staring at screens, ordering plastic junk from faceless corporations overseas? That’s not a future. That’s a death spiral.

    American men and women are starving for purpose. We weren’t born to click “Add to Cart” and wait for delivery trucks. We were born to invent, to engineer, to sweat over a weld until it’s perfect. The pioneer spirit that carved railroads across mountains and raised skyscrapers into the sky hasn’t vanished—it’s been suffocated by a culture that tells us building things is someone else’s job. Tariffs are the spark that reignites that fire. When factories reopen, when workshops hum back to life, we won’t just be manufacturing goods. We’ll be restoring dignity. Every job created here, every product stamped “Made in USA,” is a middle finger to the lie that America’s best days are behind her.

    This is about more than economics. It’s about identity. For decades, we’ve been force-fed the myth that globalization is inevitable, that competition with countries exploiting their workers and polluting their rivers is “fair.” But since when did Americans settle for “fair” when we could strive for dominance? Our ancestors didn’t cross oceans and plains to become passive observers of their own destiny. They built. They fought. They innovated. Tariffs are the first step in rejecting the cowardice of offshoring and embracing the courage of self-reliance.

    The road ahead won’t be easy. There will be short-term costs. But since when did greatness come without sacrifice? The naysayers can keep their flimsy gadgets and their fragile supply chains. We’ll take the struggle of rebuilding, because on the other side of that struggle is a nation that makes things again—things that last. A nation where fathers and mothers point to bridges, engines, and yes, refrigerators, and say, “We built that.” A nation where the American spirit, too long caged by complacency, finally breaks free.

    This is our moment. The tariffs are more than policy—they’re a declaration. We are done outsourcing our future. We are done surrendering our pride. Let the world call it protectionism. We’ll call it patriotism. The golden age of American building begins now.

    The skeptics love to preach about the “global economy” as if it’s some sacred, unalterable force of nature. But let’s strip away the euphemisms. What they call “globalization” is really just a race to the bottom—a system that rewards countries for exploiting laborers, gutting environmental standards, and hollowing out the industries of their so-called “partners.” America didn’t become a superpower by bowing to such extortion. We became a superpower by outworking, outthinking, and outbuilding everyone else. Tariffs level the playing field, yes, but their greater purpose is to remind the world that America doesn’t follow rules—we set them. This isn’t isolationism; it’s defiance. We’re done playing the sucker in a rigged game.

    Consider the small towns and cities scattered across the Rust Belt, the South, and the heartland. These communities weren’t just clusters of factories; they were ecosystems of innovation and pride. When the factories left, they took more than jobs. They took identity. They took the Friday night camaraderie of workers sharing a beer after a hard week, the local diners buzzing with shifts changing, the scholarships funded by plant profits for kids to learn trades. Tariffs won’t just revive factories—they’ll revive the glue that holds these towns together. This isn’t nostalgia. It’s justice. For every Main Street boarded up, for every family fractured by addiction or despair in the wake of economic collapse, tariffs are a down payment on redemption.

    And let’s talk about the men and women who’ve been told their skills are obsolete. The welders, machinists, and electricians—the ones who don’t just push buttons but solve problems with calloused hands and sharp minds. These aren’t “old economy” jobs. They’re timeless trades, the backbone of any society that values self-reliance. Tariffs will force us to reinvest in apprenticeships, in vocational schools, in the kind of hands-on education that doesn’t saddle kids with debt but instead gifts them purpose. Imagine a generation raised not on influencers peddling vanity, but on mentors teaching them to measure twice and cut once. That’s how cultures endure. That’s how legacies are forged.

    Detractors screech about inflation, but they ignore the hidden costs of our current decay. Yes, a $10 toaster from overseas is cheap—until you factor in the billions spent on welfare for displaced workers, the opioid crisis fueled by joblessness, or the national security risks of relying on China for everything from microchips to antibiotics. What’s more expensive: paying a fair price for a toaster built in Ohio, or surrendering our resilience as a nation? Tariffs force us to confront these truths. They’re not a tax on consumers; they’re an investment in sovereignty. When we build our own goods, control our own supply chains, and employ our own people, we’re not just saving money—we’re saving ourselves.

    Some will say automation renders this vision outdated. Nonsense. Automation isn’t the enemy; offshoring is. Imagine combining American ingenuity, robotics, and high-tech manufacturing with the grit of our workforce. We’d dominate. Germany didn’t abandon its factories—it married precision engineering with cutting-edge tech. Japan didn’t outsource its auto industry—it perfected it. America can do both, but only if we have the courage to protect and nurture our industrial base first. Tariffs buy us time to innovate here, on our soil, rather than handing our future to rivals.

    This is also a spiritual battle. Consumerism has turned us into a nation of renters—of our gadgets, our homes, even our identities. We scroll, we swipe, we discard. But building things changes you. It roots you. There’s a reason our grandfathers held onto that fridge for 60 years: it was a testament to their values. Durability. Integrity. Legacy. When we build again, we’re not just making products—we’re making prophets of a forgotten creed. Every steel beam, every engine, every circuit board crafted here becomes a sermon: We refuse to rot. We choose to create.

    The road ahead demands more than tariffs, of course. We’ll need to slash regulations that strangle small manufacturers, rewrite trade deals that put America first, and celebrate blue-collar work as noble, not “backup” career. But tariffs are the catalyst. They’re the spark in the dark, the signal to the world that America is done outsourcing its soul. For every CEO who claims he “has no choice” but to move jobs overseas, tariffs scream back: You do now.

    History doesn’t remember nations for what they bought. It remembers them for what they built. The pyramids. The railroads. The internet. Our ancestors didn’t cling to safe, small, soulless lives—they gambled on greatness. Tariffs are our gamble. They’re a bet that American hands still yearn to shape steel, that American hearts still hunger for purpose, and that this country’s best chapters aren’t behind her, but waiting to be written. Let the doubters cling to their cheap trinkets.

    We’re building cathedrals.

    Andrew Torba

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    I apologize ... I know, some of here DO NOT like this channel.. but, here it is so evidently that all of this can be a grifting for someones... WHO KNEW!!! Regarding of 90 days pose of tariffs!

    Fox Hosts Charlie Gasparino and Jessica Tarlov RIPPED Donald Trump to shreds after he caved on his own plan to institute hefty tariffs on products around the globe. Francis Maxwell reacts.



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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Of course when he reduced the tariffs few hours later the markets flew way high. Him and his billionnaires oligarchs made billions more (they had money to buy and were told beforehand) while you and I lost our 401 pension founds - RRSP in Canada. This is literally illegal trading and collusion from the US president.
    I have to say, I was shocked at the unexpected news. I've not seen this mentioned yet on any social media commentary, but this does seem to be suspicious (at least!). I'm finding myself wondering if this was all choreographed beforehand, the events of today always part of the plan.

    These might be the immediate outcomes:
    1. Some DC insiders must have made a LOT of money, probably millions, within a few hours.
    2. Wholesale economic war against China has been declared.
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    Trump brags in the Oval Office that Charles Schwab made $2.5 billion today following the stock market surge.


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    Please check what Trump was saying decade ago about stock markets... today.. for sure it was the biggest insider trading manipulation all the way... in Trump's Circle... they should be prosecuted... I think ... that this is the biggest scandal so far... more than signalgate....

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    Quote Posted by BMJ (here)
    Cry Me A River China

    China was happy for the USA to live on food stamps and in tent cities and become a third world country all in an effort to save China, well now the shoes on the other foot China.

    I say to President Trump play chicken with China keep upping the tariffs until it really hurts because we know China will have to relent.

    To Lin western countries don't need you second rate products so go away we don't want your crap anymore.


    China calls US tariffs 'bullying', urged others to continue with consultation

    BEIJING, April 7 (Reuters) - Threats and pressure are not the right way to deal with China, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said on Monday after describing U.S. President Donald Trump's "reciprocal tariffs" as bullying.

    The tariffs are "typical unilateralism and protectionism, and economic bullying", spokesperson Lin Jian told a regular press conference. He said that U.S. tariffs in the name of reciprocity only served its own interest at the expense of other countries.

    Last week, Trump introduced an additional 34% tariff on Chinese goods as part of steep levies imposed on most U.S. trade partners, bringing the total duties on China this year to 54%. China retaliated with a series of countermeasures.

    Lin deferred to other bodies the question of whether China would engage in negotiations with the United States.

    U.S. customs agents have been collecting Trump's unilateral 10% tariff on all imports from many countries since Saturday.

    "The abuse of tariffs by the United States is tantamount to depriving countries, especially those in the Global South, of their right to development," Lin said, citing a widening gap between the rich and poor in each country, and less developed countries suffering a greater impact.

    Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-p...on-2025-04-07/
    How was China responsible for subprime mortgage backed securities? That's what triggered the 2008 recession. You can blame China for a lot of things, but not what America's banks and lending companies got up to that pushed US over the edge the last time.

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    A 10-minute perspective published by Kim Iverson an hour ago. She asks:

    Trump’s Tariff Gamble: Boost for America or Death Blow?

    Her answer is Death Blowunless Trump abolishes all Income Tax.

    How about just abolish or Doge the Department of Offense. That would help a LOT. Huge savings.

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    Trump responds to a question about the reciprocal tariff 90 day pause....





    People were getting a little bit yippy ... .....

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    Countries who didn't retaliate and wanted to negotiate a deal have had the pressure on them lifted - (for at least 90 days)

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