"I can't keep up any more." The world of Future Shock is already here

[palehorse]

Posted by Catsquotl (here)

Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
I recall Terence McKenna speaking about the increasing speed of everything, information and 'Novelty', we are at this point it seems to me.

Seems like a golden opportunity to practice discernment. this I do want to engage with, that I don't.
Do you have a link where he speaks or writes about it?
Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.


With Love
Eelco

As a big fan of Terrence, I had been listening to his "tapes" for a very long time now, I uploaded it in a torrent circa 2008, but it seems like always someone is coming up with a new found ones and it became pointless to me to keep up doing that.. Lorenzo from psychedelic salon is the one who has a lot of materials of Terrence, also he knew Terrence personally and he is always coming up with new found "tapes", Terrence was very well connected and he left a lot of resources spread everywhere, Lorenzo try to put it all together in one place which is a good idea, but I still see materials of him elsewhere popping up now and then.. hard to centralize this things.

Here we go with "Valley of Novelty" https://psychedelicsalon.com/podcast...elty-workshop/

Terrence was very aware about this information era we are living currently, he was a great person as well, a friend of mine met him in California once and they spent hours talking about aliens and other stuffs like they were best friends. All the info I got from Terrence was because of my friend who introduced me to his materials when I was about 16 years old, and back in 2000/2001 after his death I was converting old VHS tapes interviews into digital to make it available in websites and forums on internet, some of this materials still up there on youtube but I am not engaged on this anymore.

Also there is this guy called Jason Silva from Venezuela, I used to like him before he went total mainstream, he was like part of Terrence alive and speaking, the way he "touch" the viewer attention is just amazing, total control of the words.

Sorry to go a bit off topic..

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Catsquotl (here)
Do you have a link where he speaks or writes about it?
Terrence on information and novelty sounds like something I do want to spend a little more time with.

With Love
Eelco

Terence McKenna Archive (vids)

Terence Mckenna Quotes - here & here

[JackMcThorn]

I remember observing maybe around 2o1o that there was 55,ooo years of reading material available on the internet.

Wow, I thought, this is impossible until I realised much of which is irrelevant, or even worthless to a person at a time.

Usually, when you need to find something, you should be able to quite quickly.

Otherwise, there is something new every day. Learning something new every day becomes easier.

I still make time for books. Sort of.

I enjoy reading PA. I do skip around a lot. I think if someone doesn't make their point right away, I have to move on.

If we use some brevity, hopefully we make our point and others can move on quickly.

Cheers

[thepainterdoug]

Jack said;

"I enjoy reading PA. I do skip around a lot. I think if someone doesn't make their point right away, I have to move on."

If we use some brevity, hopefully we make our point and others can move on quickly.


AGREED !

along with this I have been advocating that video makers presenting vital info eliminate all catchy art, music and filler associated with entertainment upon the start. The second I start a video and see alien grays, explosions, slick stuff or any kind of eye candy other than the critical information, Im out.

We are in a time where we need to reboot and cleanse our attention palette . I dont want to see art everywhere, hear music filling every scenario and Im certainly not interested in seeing a tatoo above every womans butt crack.

any artist knows throwing white on a canvas doesnt make your picture bright.

[Bill Ryan]

[Bill Ryan]

I posted this on the Trump shooting thread yesterday.

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One thing that isn't being discussed enough is how the accelerating fast-forward news cycle is deliberately taken advantage of by the Deep State (or whoever the heck is really running things) to obfuscate and memory-hole any inconvenient truths (or anomalous events) from being seriously discussed — or even remember4ed at all.

There's not enough free human time and attention any more to attend properly to ANY of this, save for just a tiny few who stick at it all. What that means is that seriously bad things can happen more and more blatantly with minimal risk of of any exposure for what they really are.

The even greater risk is that because of this, AI will be used to 'assist' people's thinking and belief-forming about global events in a torrent-flood of new information in the media every day. That's how the once-conceived threat of open discussion on social media will be handled. Social media is close to not really mattering any more.

The Trump shooting is a prime case study of exactly this. In a mere few weeks (or sooner!), no-one at all will be talking about this. It'll have been swept way way downstream in the torrent flood of new information.

[Bruce G Charlton]

@Bill: This is a relevant passage from a book I published a decade ago Addicted to Distraction: psychological consequences of the mass media.

The most profound truths, the most lasting experiences, our most precious memories are swept away like a drop of crystal water in a daily torrent of polluted outflow. If you unresistingly, enthusiastically consume the Mass Media – it is like standing in the path of a massive effluent pipe with your mouth wide open.

But the fact that most of the output of the Mass Media is a pollutant is not the worst problem; the worst problem is that the mode by which the Mass Media communicates become habitual – until it becomes very difficult to think in any other fashion.

Even if the Mass Media was emanating the purest springwater – the sheer volume would drown-us.

The worst problem is that by consuming such a lot of the Mass Media for such a lot of our lives, we are entrained to its cognitive mode: the mode of permanent revolution; that mode becomes habitual, normal – and eventually unavoidable.

It becomes our engrained practice – as individuals – to be absolutist in our opinions, intolerant of opposition and dissent; yet to swap and change and invert our opinions in line with fashion and expediency, on the basis that we regard nothing as permanent and true; and ‘reality’ as something manufactured, not discovered.

Ultimately, such is his state of dependence; modern Man cannot think otherwise, but only in the way that the Mass Media thinks.

[Ravenlocke]

Hello Everyone,

I didn't even know this thread was here. Thanks Bill for the “Bump”.
How shall I put it? (Just my observations not a complaint).
All this massive amount of information available, and happening, changing quickly, yes I do feel I cannot keep up but more importantly it distracts me so much and takes up most of my time to the point that I feel lost, as in I have lost my connection to God/Source. I feel like I am missing out on what I am meant to do, to learn even, and to be connected to what my soul really yearns for, and to pray and send blessings as I call it.
It has also made me acutely aware of how quickly time is passing especially when engrossed in what I call “information gathering”. There is so much to catch up on on every topic I want to know about, from geopolitics, to disclosure, to hidden knowledge, etc. Yet spending a lot of time in pursuit of this knowledge also makes me feel empty inside and very fragmented.
In conclusion, I find I am peaceful, content, creative, appreciative when I’m disconnected.

[HopSan]

Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
@Bill: This is a relevant passage from a book I published a decade ago Addicted to Distraction: psychological consequences of the mass media.

The most profound truths, the most lasting experiences, our most precious memories are swept away like a drop of crystal water in a daily torrent of polluted outflow. If you unresistingly, enthusiastically consume the Mass Media – it is like standing in the path of a massive effluent pipe with your mouth wide open.

But the fact that most of the output of the Mass Media is a pollutant is not the worst problem; the worst problem is that the mode by which the Mass Media communicates become habitual – until it becomes very difficult to think in any other fashion.

Even if the Mass Media was emanating the purest springwater – the sheer volume would drown-us.

The worst problem is that by consuming such a lot of the Mass Media for such a lot of our lives, we are entrained to its cognitive mode: the mode of permanent revolution; that mode becomes habitual, normal – and eventually unavoidable.

It becomes our engrained practice – as individuals – to be absolutist in our opinions, intolerant of opposition and dissent; yet to swap and change and invert our opinions in line with fashion and expediency, on the basis that we regard nothing as permanent and true; and ‘reality’ as something manufactured, not discovered.

Ultimately, such is his state of dependence; modern Man cannot think otherwise, but only in the way that the Mass Media thinks.

Thanks, BGC, and others, two points:

1), In part my life, now, very confused:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NoAzpa1x7jU

2) World is happening, changing so fast, that even the fastest cannot follow.

My very fast late wife felt like being behind, despite being (in my opinion) far ahead of the masses.

Hunch, today:

The world is changing, a new 'phase' of 'civilization' is beginning.
Previous 'phases' ended 1914 and 1990.

[Bill Ryan]

[Mike Gorman]

What would 'being all caught up and absolutely informed actually look like?' I mean that human beings are continuously discovering, and creating their world view in 'real time' there is no ultimate, or absolute point of being informed: which is why we are each like specialists, we each have a talent or focus that takes our attention and we become more informed about a specialised aspect/subject. Terrence McKenna spoke of this acceleration and increase in psychological momentum, the 'singularity': which is very different to the 'AI' singularity of later speculation - I tend to agree with McKenna regarding 'Novelty' and the end point of human consciousness whereby our own perceptions of our universe becomes totally interlinked with the universal intention of maximum novelty and creative potential, perhaps we are destined to become the Gods who gave us our existence, who combined our genetic materials with the 'Monkey stuff' mixed with their own image, their own genes-creating this Human hybrid race that has infinite potential to access the universal energies the very stuff of creation? Our minds shall never be surpassed by computer brains, AI is a red herring (very useful but it will never be greater than us).

[Mike]

Interesting synchronicity: I was at a used bookstore yesterday, just scanning the shelves willy-nilly, and I saw this book, Future Shock by Alvin Toffler.

The irony kind of broke my brain because seeing it there felt like a nudge from the universe to read it but I've got a bunch of books at home I'm committed to reading first. I'm too bogged down to read the book about being bogged down lol.

[Dilettante]

I picked up Toffler’s Future Shock yesterday because of this thread!

Had to browse through a bunch of slop at Barnes and Noble to even find it. It was in the sociology section, but 80% of that section was identity politics. There was only a single bookcase for philosophy and they did not have Baudrillard’s Simulacra and Simulation, which surprised me. They had plenty of Nietzsche though, who I don’t even mind, but you can tell what political skew his philosophy emphasizes. Plenty of critiques of the Church, but none for the Mosque or Synagogue? Point taken.

It’s struck me in libraries as well that there is so much fluff, or soft reading. I swear most of it is computer generated or ghost written at this point. But look at the ratio of fiction, romance, fantasy, sci-fi, mystery, and western novels to mathematics, philosophy, textbooks, and non-fiction. It’s clear that many people read to escape the world, not deepen their knowledge of it. That’s always been odd to me. I had a professor in college who thought we could eventually simulate anything we wanted to within a computer world. I pointed out to him that our reality would still supersede that one because it contains the computer that runs the simulation. He said he had never considered that before. I just sort of shut up and walked away.

[edina]

Posted by Dilettante (here)
I picked up Toffler’s Future Shock yesterday because of this thread!

Had to browse through a bunch of slop at Barnes and Noble to even find it. It was in the sociology section, but 80% of that section was identity politics.

I remember when that book first came out. At the time, it was all the rage... probably aging myself a bit, I was still in elementary school.

For any one interested in it, it's in the Avalon Library, as is a follow-up book on the topic. (There was another, that's not in the Avalon Library.)

The Avalon library is a gem. (smiles to bluegreen, Tintin, and all the many people who have contributed over the years.)

Side note: I checked out Baudrillard’s Simulacra and Simulation because of your mention here. Interesting...