UK Sun Dimming: UK government plans for the future

[Mike]

Bret and Heather break it all down. 14 mins:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ErYVWd4pk-w

Bret is a little behind the 8 ball (he kind of poo pah's chem trails) but is as appalled as any of us with this impending experiment (which as far as I'm concerned has been going on for a long while now and is only going public now).

I have great admiration for many of these mainstream intellectuals, but it often takes them a while to fully come around to what we here in the alt space have known for some time.

Anyway, "they" are making their move now openly, only cloaking it all in deceptive language of course. Frightening.

I chuckled at the title of the video. The UK is the last place that needs sun dimming...but okay. I s'pose it's viewed as a good place to begin the experiment due to it's relatively small numbers and softened up citizenry. It'll be interesting to see what kind of fight they put up. I'll be cheering them on from the cheap seats.

[jaybee]

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thanks for starting the thread, Mike..... I was thinking one was needed -

oh dear, oh dear, oh cor blimey, lawks a mercy .....what fiendish plans are afoot (or have been in progress secretly for a while and are NOW being publically wheeled out to get a gage on public reaction etc etc....)

Imagine us Brits - as you say - one of the last places to actually need sun dimming - having what (relatively few?) good sunny days we have - f**ked up, good and proper by the Evil {cough} Climate Change {cough} Scientists....


We have had some summers in recent years that were decidedly lacking in sun.... now we have to consider if it was 'THEM' doing it.....

I had a thought when I read your opening post..... remember Wilhelm Reich's 'Cloudbuster' ....

just sayin'......


How To Make Your Own Wilhelm Reich Cloudbuster (4:22)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q7uz2ua-RJc

this is the only video on this subject I've looked at so far... not sure if I could make it myself - but there are going to be lots of practical clever people who will be able to - would the sunlight blocking layers be bustable...?...... dunno...... and what would come down if they were....?

going to stop there, for now.....

[bojancan]

We all know... who is behind this.. and decades for "chemtrailing" above us too... specially is happening in US Canada and EU...
Where are those in Trump circle now... in RFKj circle... Gates told us all, how he visited few times Trump...
I am expecting some feedback on this dimming stuff...

[Mike]

Posted by bojancan (here)
We all know... who is behind this.. and decades for "chemtrailing" above us too... specially is happening in US Canada and EU...
Where are those in Trump circle now... in RFKj circle... Gates told us all, how he visited few times Trump...
I am expecting some feedback on this dimming stuff...

They're implementing the same plan here in the US by using a combination of Trump's hair dye and Gates' semen particles to block out the sun. Or at least so says the title of your next video, no doubt.

[Strat]

Mr Burns did this

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IyjJbhuwGkU

Can someone post an article or something? I'm not a fan of youtube videos (yes I see the irony of this post lol). I can post an article later tonight, I'm just a bit busy at the moment.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Strat (here)
Can someone post an article or something?

Here's one of many, this from Newsweek who (to their credit!) are skeptical, even citing The Simpsons.

• https://newsweek.com/experiment-dim-...-alarm-2063537

Reported Experiments to 'Dim the Sun' Spark Alarm: 'Never Seen a Film?'

The U.K. government's reported plans to allow experiments that could "dim the sun" has sparked comparisons to apocalyptic action film plots and villainous schemes cooked up by cartoon characters.

While some see the initiative as a desperate but necessary step amid rising global temperatures, others express alarm at the prospect of interfering with natural systems.

Why It Matters

As scientists and political leaders say climate change is intensifying and pushing the planet toward dangerous thresholds, innovative approaches to cooling the Earth gain heightened significance.

Researchers suggest that dimming the sun's rays by reflecting a fraction of solar radiation could potentially help lower surface temperatures and potentially mitigate extreme heat events.

In the U.S., for example, NASA warns that warming temperatures could mean the amount of land consumed by wildfires in Western states is projected to increase by two to six times by the year 2050.

Such geoengineering methods are viewed as tools that might buy time for societies to scale up carbon reduction efforts.

Climate change has also proved a divisive political issue. Whilst there is a broad scientific consensus on the issue, climate skepticism is still prevalent in some quarters.
In the U.S., President Donald Trump's administration have ushered in major rollbacks of environmental regulations.


The sun rises behind the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge on April 09, 2024 in San Francisco, California.

What To Know

According to a report from The Daily Telegraph, the U.K. government is poised to authorize small-scale outdoor trials aimed at reducing solar radiation and its Advanced Research and Invention Agency (ARIA) has set aside $66.5 million (£50 million) for the endeavor.

The experiments could involve the controlled release of reflective substances—designed to mimic natural aerosols—into the atmosphere. This method is intended to decrease the amount of solar energy reaching the surface, potentially easing heat extremes in a warming climate.

They could also involve brightening clouds to reflect sunshine, the Telegraph reported. This could be accomplished by spraying sea salt in the lower atmosphere to increase the reflectivity of clouds over the ocean.

Clouds form when water vapor condenses around tiny particles like dust or salt. Adding more particles creates more, smaller droplets, which reflect sunlight more effectively.

The trials will reportedly be conducted with strict safety protocols.

"Everything we do is going to be safe by design," professor Mark Symes, the program director for ARIA, told the Telegraph. "We're absolutely committed to responsible research, including responsible outdoor research.

"We have strong requirements around the length of time experiments can run for and their reversibility and we won't be funding the release of any toxic substances to the environment."

The proposed experiment has been met with mixed reactions.

"Montgomery Burns approves," wrote one X user in response to an article about the plans, a reference to the unscrupulous billionaire businessman in The Simpsons, who in one famous episode of the animated comedy, attempts to block out the sun.

What People Are Saying

Reacting to the story on GB News, comedian Steve Allen said: "I love science... but have they never seen a film?...'I know what we'll do, we'll just scorch out the sun'—Matrix! You're 20 minutes in, that's how it happens."

Utah Senator Mike Lee said on X: "On a scale of one to ten, how much do you trust the UK to 'dim the Sun' without causing problems?"

In a statement shared with Newsweek, Mike Hulme, professor of human geography at the University of Cambridge said: "This program is consuming a large amount—£50m plus—of scarce U.K. public research funding that should be much better invested into technologies to accelerate next generation clean energy technologies and also unto advancing technologies for removing CO2 from the air. It is illusory to think that deliberate manipulation of clouds and of the atmosphere's composition to create a sun-screen for the planet is a safe, governable and desirable form of environmental management.

"It holds out a false promise that climate change risks can be defused in this way; the naivety of it is breathtaking."

Matthew Henry, postdoctoral research fellow at the University of Exeter's College of Engineering, Mathematics, and Physical Sciences told Newsweek: "It is important to note that injecting aerosols to cool the planet would only work for as long as the injection occurs. If, for any reason, we suddenly stop, all the masked warming from aerosol injection would occur quite suddenly. Hence, we certainly should not use solar geoengineering as an excuse to not cut emissions.

"However, I believe we need to study solar geoengineering as it is the only potential tool we have to reduce temperatures on a short timescale. Once we reach net zero greenhouse gas emissions, global temperatures only stabilize (they don't go back down), and the melting of glaciers and sea level rise will continue

"While it is possible to remove carbon from the atmosphere, it remains slow and expensive for now. We are currently on track for, at least, two degrees of warming, which already might have devastating impacts."

Henry added that climate models used to study climate change can also assess geoengineering interventions, but they have significant uncertainties. Small-scale experiments funded by ARIA could help refine these models by providing real-world data to better represent localized processes, Henry said.

An ARIA spokesperson told Newsweek: "These approaches are not a substitute for decarbonization, which is the only long-term and sustainable way to reduce the risk of encountering climate tipping points.

"The projects in the program are designed to explore potential approaches to actively reduce global temperatures in the immediate term, to act in conjunction with long-term decarbonization efforts."

What Happens Next

Full details on the activities and timelines for funded projects will be announced in the coming weeks, the ARIA spokesperson said.

[jaybee]

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I just made a post on the UK Politics thread about all this....

post here

I won't be making light of the situation any more - I'm really upset about it - having witnessed the reality of the new insanity over the last 2 days....

They are saying about it getting approval soon....BUT.... the sky where I live in the West Midlands, UK has been covered with God knows what for the last 2 days.... so it's already up and running - what would have been a lovely sunny April day with a beautiful blue sky was ruined by the evil project ..... the ridiculous project....

There's something very sinister about it - and it gives you a helpless, abused feeling.... but I said how I felt in my other post - that I linked to -

This is to share Dr John Campbell's video about it.... thank god for John and the work he does...bless his heart a thousand times and more...

High risk British research (10:13)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eRiTbpMPThU

GOVERNMENT PETITION for UK CITIZENS

Make all forms of 'geo-engineering' affecting the environment illegal

We want all forms of geo-engineering to be illegal in the UK. We do not want any use of technologies to intervene in the Earth's natural systems.

[jaybee]

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The planes have been out again today, since very early morning.... making a ugly mess of would have been a beautiful blue sky....

I think they must be military planes OR private contractors? OR I read somewhere that planes and equipment are being specially made for the job.... :-(

Now I know how the people who have lived with Chem Trails all these years feel.... it's a feeling of helplessness and vulnerability - anger and fear - this whole thing is real and it, more than likely, isn't being done for the reasons they say - the 'climate warming' excuse could be just a cover for something MUCH more sinister - if it was for what they say it would still be dangerous (aka NOT safe and effective).... but ..... we must remember that the 'Elite's' population reduction agenda is a real thing -

In 'real' life how do you talk about all this....? I've tried it out on a few people and it's not easy - you soon get to the point where you can sound like a raving paranoid nutcase :-) ..... and THAT'S just sticking to the 'Climate Warming' geoengineering angle..... best not to wander into the area of speculation about population control and dramatically announce that we are at war and 'they' are trying to kill most of us and destroy our culture and even the environment (make it sterile...like the people...?) - to keep the human population RIGHT down permanently......people who have no idea what's going on back right off thinking you're a crazy paranoid person - just on the geoengineering angle !!! you can see their face looking blank and then confused about what you are trying to share with them.......

People are down on 'The People's Voice Channel' but this video is of interest especially the interview with Kristen Meghan - a whistleblower - Former US Army environmental specialist... the part with her interview starts in section beginning just after 12 mins....


how accurate the bit about the arrest is I don't know yet.....but I believe that RFK Jr is looking into Chem Trails so..?

Trump's Chemtrails Task Force Makes First Major Geoengineering Arrest in U.S. (20:28)

Source: https://www.brighteon.com/embed/8577e1ab-6b5d-45eb-8308-545f69bb2e94

For decades, they told us we were crazy. They said those grid-like streaks in the sky were just condensation… nothing more than harmless trails left by passing jets.

But behind the ridicule, behind the denial, something sinister was taking shape, hidden in plain sight. Now, the walls are finally starting to crack.

The Chemtrails Task Force, a covert, cross-agency unit activated just weeks ago, has already sent shockwaves through the highest levels of power. Rogue agencies have been shut down. Financial networks frozen. And in a stunning turn of events… the Task Force has made its first arrests.

[Ewan]

Fingers crossed it is true.

[avid]

Sun dimmed all day since sunrise, hundreds of chemtrails spread across the sky. North west England. Ghastly coughing due to fallout.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by avid (here)
Sun dimmed all day since sunrise, hundreds of chemtrails spread across the sky. North west England. Ghastly coughing due to fallout.

I literally can't find adequate words to comment on this. Criminally irresponsible, mind-numbingly stupid, yet more authoritarian destruction of everything that Britain ever had to love, value and protect.

And prevailing weather patterns will (of course!!! ) blow all this eastwards to mainland Europe. Particles seeded in the sky don't just stay stationary as if they were magically anchored there. Are there no sane meteorologists advising the UK government about this??

[meat suit]

Maybe the power outage in Spain etc has something to do with this..
As best I know, the sprayed particles are conductive, so a combo of that and what Ben Davidson thinks has caused the outage might be at play.

Harald Kautz (sorry habent got a link) has explained that the particles are actually formed by a furnace blasting process using the planes turnines, which are fed with powder. The purpose is really military radar surveilance stuff, probably UFO related too..

[norman]

I've listened to Jim Lee talk about chemtrails etc several times. To my surprise, because this is a Jaco podcast, he excelled himself in this one.

After a brief self introduction he describes a very layered field of atmospheric manipulation. For example, he explains how even a "no spray day" can have a sky that is very artificial and reflecting a lot of light back into space. He explains a lot of things and manages to do it mostly without getting too nerdy for an average listener.

He claims NATO has the last word on what the chemical content of aviation fuel is.

This was uploaded a month ago and has nothing directly newsy to do with the recent news about a UK policy but it will make anyone who listens to this a lot 'smarter' about what's going around in the social media on this general topic.

Chemtrails, who's involved, what are they doing and why, is it harming us, can we stop them and how?

Jim Lee
https://climateviewer.com

https://rumble.com/v6rdxl2-chemtrail...html?start=400


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v6p71c8/?pub=4&start=400

[jaybee]

Posted by Ewan (here)
Fingers crossed it is true.

Yes let's hope it is..... I haven't had a proper look to check it out yet....

I had a thought about the reported arrest and Bobby Kennedy taking a look at the Chem Trail business... - and I wonder if this is what has prompted the British establishment/government to go public and get Parliamentary approval...... approval for something they have been doing in varying degrees anyway........?

To give legal protection to the individuals involved in it all.... from the instigators, planners to the pilots - in case a Kennedy like figure happens to pop up in the UK in the next few years................?

???

For the record...after what I said in my previous post when it was really getting to me... I'm calming down now - I'm still concerned about it all but not letting it affect my day to day equilibrium - obviously the content of what they are spreading around is of major concern for life on earth and the environment but now they have 'gone public' more people will become aware...

I also think that the Sun is winning this battle - the last 3 days have started with the planes laying their trails and the sky being messed up with them - the sky has still been a pale bluer than it should be as the day goes on - but the day has eventually been nice and sunny and the sky has dispersed most (a lot of) of the 'trails' - as I type now, through the window, I can see thick trails in direction of the ever rising sun and a plane laying out a fresh one - but I'm feeling ok because I can't let 'them' ruin my day...... (*shakes fist at the invisible foe*)

onward ever onward....

[avid]

Same today in NW England as yesterday, heavy chemtrailing and blurry sky. However, absolutely no wind, even near the sea where there should be tidal breezes. Stifling for time of year, birds desperately thirsty so have upturned a plastic table and filled the structural pockets with fresh water for drinking and bathing. A very busy place atm! Even sounds not carrying. All very strange…. Neighbours line of washing totally static. Weird environmental manipulation.

[Bill Ryan]

A question for British members: what is Piers Corbyn saying about this?

[Ernie Nemeth]

Gateway Pundit headline:
"RFK Jr. Names Government Agency Behind America's Geoengineering Nightmare"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...eoengineering/

[avid]

Nothing atm, but looking up to my sky, just a fog of chemtrails. No wind. No sound. An horrendous mess. Not natural at all..

[jaybee]

Posted by norman (here)
I've listened to Jim Lee talk about chemtrails etc several times. To my surprise, because this is a Jaco podcast, he excelled himself in this one.

After a brief self introduction he describes a very layered field of atmospheric manipulation. For example, he explains how even a "no spray day" can have a sky that is very artificial and reflecting a lot of light back into space. He explains a lot of things and manages to do it mostly without getting too nerdy for an average listener.

He claims NATO has the last word on what the chemical content of aviation fuel is.

This was uploaded a month ago and has nothing directly newsy to do with the recent news about a UK policy but it will make anyone who listens to this a lot 'smarter' about what's going around in the social media on this general topic.

Chemtrails, who's involved, what are they doing and why, is it harming us, can we stop them and how?

Jim Lee
https://climateviewer.com

https://rumble.com/v6rdxl2-chemtrail...html?start=400


Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v6p71c8/?pub=4&start=400

thanks


wow.... I'm stunned by the information in this video - going to watch it all again soon -

a short quote from Jim Lee.... who does a great job educating everyone on the subject.... and there's so much more to it than I could ever have imagined -

@1:09:19 - - - - "We're focusing on the needle in the haystack and ignoring the haystack..."

[Did You See Them]

UK being used for experimental milk additives with no choice unless your very discerning about what dairy it comes from - most supermarkets are NO GO for Arla free milk !

Now this in your face (if you listen to what's going on from alternative sources other than MSN ( btw - on the MSN - someone from some film wore a skimpy dress at some award ceremony).

I wonder how the government grants for solar panels are going ?
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