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    Sounds like the Archons are at it again. They need another psychic feeding.

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    This is an interesting. Just as one example, I did not know about the depth of the citizen card system.

    Just a little bit into the first video, I realize how little I really know about Israel. I thought I knew some things about Israel but now even that is suspect in my mind. As an example: Just when I think I have a tip of a toe hold on a happening in the world, I realize that there is a good chance that I do not even have that. I will no longer wonder why people PERSONNALLY want to go right to the geographic source to get the truth to what is going on. Its also no wonder why that access is, in many cases, is tightly controlled.

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    Thanks for posting this I would really like to hear an Israeli take on this, however just looking at this I question if a race that has just undergone a "holocaust" could inflict the same on another race? that would be truly sick and shows no spritiual development or re evaluation.
    I also think most Americans would be horrified to know that $6 billion of their tax dollars goes to arm Israel every year,and yet they don't seem to be able to find the money to help with natural disasters like Katrina.

    Also as a brit I am disgusted to learn that Cameron, osborne and milliband are all " Friends of Israel".sounds like being friends of hitler.

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    Quote Posted by aheb (here)
    Thanks for posting this I would really like to hear an Israeli take on this, however just looking at this I question if a race that has just undergone a "holocaust" could inflict the same on another race? that would be truly sick and shows no spritiual development or re evaluation.
    I also think most Americans would be horrified to know that $6 billion of their tax dollars goes to arm Israel every year,and yet they don't seem to be able to find the money to help with natural disasters like Katrina.

    Also as a brit I am disgusted to learn that Cameron, osborne and milliband are all " Friends of Israel".sounds like being friends of hitler.
    Gilad Atzmon wrote the Wandering Who, about the history of Judaism, lived in Israel, could tell you more. Check out this link: http://www.gilad.co.uk/

    The PTB can always afford a war, ironically.
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    Gazza is flooded once again.
    UN declared a humanitarian crisis.

    This year 2014 report with video: http://rt.com/news/209595-flood-gaza-ruins-emergency/
    Last year 2013 report with video (before the last summer war): http://rt.com/news/gaza-flood-emergency-israel-255/

    Nothing new, the suffering is extended.
    Yet I am more sympathetic with 3 millions Syrian homeless refuges. Freezing to death, and sold as sex slaves.
    I hope the UN declared a humanitarian crisis for the Syrian refuges as well.
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    The real reasons for the war in Gaza
    The war in Gaza is really about oil and gas and the geopolitical conflict between the United States and Russia. Does that sound incredible? Check it out for yourself as it is completely obvious but is being covered up by the western media.

    from Anti-Spiegel
    November 25, 2023 1:24 p.m
    I've been wanting to write an article for a while about the fact that there is a huge oil and gas field off Gaza that is the real reason for the Gaza war. However, so far I haven't gotten around to researching it thoroughly. I don't want to adorn myself with someone else's feathers, because a friend sent me an article from a Russian blogger who did this research and published it. I used his article and sources as a basis for my article and added my own thoughts and insights.

    The story begins in 1995
    Of course, one can also look for the history of the current war over a hundred years ago or in the founding of the State of Israel and the subsequent oppression of the Palestinians, but that would be too general. The current conflict has much more concrete roots.

    The history of today's Gaza War begins in 1995. On September 28, 1995, the Oslo 2 agreement was signed in Washington, which, among other things, grants Palestine the right to independently dispose of its natural resources. On October 5 of the same year, the Israeli parliament, the Knesset, ratified the agreement.

    Four years later , Palestine signs a contract with the British company BG (British Gas) because the Palestinian government wants to find out whether there are mineral resources on the shelf bordering the Palestinian Gaza Strip. BG, which specializes in geological exploration among other things, is taking on the contract.

    In 1999 BG finds the jackpot. It finds rich gas and oil deposits off Palestine, 20 nautical miles from the coast. A report from a 2019 UN Trade and Development Commission conference contains the exact figures. The UN commission experts estimated Palestinian gas reserves at 122 trillion cubic feet and 1.7 billion barrels of oil. In 2017, when the document on which the conference was based was prepared, the reserves were estimated to be worth $453 billion for gas and $71 billion for oil.

    Since this is important, again: the value of the gas and oil deposits off the coast of Gaza, which belong to the Palestinians under the Oslo Accords, was over half a trillion dollars at 2017 prices, or more precisely, $524 billion. Adjusted for inflation and other factors, that amount is now over $600 billion.

    In 2002, Palestine agreed to BG's proposal to build gas extraction and processing infrastructure in the Gaza Strip and to begin construction of a gas pipeline, primarily to Europe. Israel rejects this because the pipeline would pass through Israeli-controlled territory. Instead, Israel offers Palestine a different solution : supplying the gas to Israel at an internal price, not the market price, so that Israel can further export the gas to Europe. Palestine is of course against it.

    All of this has been simmering for years as the sides repeatedly fire at each other.

    The dream of the “blooming garden” of Gaza
    In 2007, partly due to pressure from the USA, elections were held in Gaza, which Hamas won. Hamas thus became, whether you like it or not, the democratically legitimate government of Gaza. Since the USA did not like the results of the elections that it had called for, it refused to recognize Hamas. When Hamas came to power in 2007, it promised to transform Gaza City into a thriving “garden city.”

    Israel then imposed a naval blockade, blocking all Palestinian efforts to develop the necessary infrastructure. On December 27, 2008, the Israeli army attacked Palestine . Palestine is defending itself, including with rockets.

    But Israel is stronger and more ruthless. Guardian journalists estimate that 83 percent of the over 1,400 Palestinian deaths (including 313 children) were civilians. What is crucial, however, is that with Operation “Cast Lead” Israel is destroying a large part of the Gaza Strip and making the maritime area adjacent to the Gaza Strip its property , contrary to international law and previous agreements . BG is closing its Tel Aviv office to avoid getting caught up in this chaos.

    From 2008 to 2022 there is some activity on the shelf, but overall the project is frozen due to regular military clashes.

    The blowing up of the Nord Streams as a starting signal
    On September 26, 2022 - just recently, and literally yesterday by the standards of the long-term planning oil and gas industry - the Nord Streams, which belong to Russia and Germany, were blown up. Even though the Western press tries to pin the blow-up on Ukraine, there is little international doubt that the US is behind it.

    Europe now has an energy problem.

    In the summer of 2023, meetings on the question of the rapid development of the gas field will be initiated under the mediation of the USA. On June 18, 2023 , Benjamin Netanyahu makes an official statement allowing the oil field development project, but without mentioning Palestine:

    “The project is necessary to ensure the security and diplomatic needs of the State of Israel”

    On the same day, Hamas spokesman Ismail Rudwan stated the following:

    “We affirm that our people in Gaza have the right to their natural resources”

    You don't have to be an expert to put these two statements together and understand them: Israel says "that's our 600 billion", Palestine says "no, that's our mineral resources". That was the starting signal for the Gaza war.

    It's about 600 billion dollars, which we have to classify to understand: the entire GDP of Palestine is only 18 billion dollars, for Palestine 600 billion is an unimaginable sum and the chance to repeat the “Miracle of Dubai”. Palestine could become a paradise on the model of Dubai - with prosperity, tourism and so on.

    The war begins and Israel distributes mining licenses
    On October 7th, Hamas invades Israel. Israel responds. Another massacre begins.

    While people are dying, hidden by the constant media fire about the war, several important events are taking place that have barely been reported by the media.

    On October 30, 2023, with its military in the ascendancy and the ground offensive in Gaza looming, Israel granted licenses to six companies to extract gas in the very place that belongs to Palestine according to the Oslo Accords. In plain language: After the war began, Israel, not Palestine, awarded permits for gas production in the waters off Gaza to international companies.

    Among the companies that have received a license is the British company British Petroleum. The Israeli Times reported it enthusiastically.

    The role of the British Prime Minister
    On October 30, 2023, the same day, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak fired his minister Paul Bristow for calling for a ceasefire in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    The British Prime Minister generally behaved strangely by playing for time and not talking about a ceasefire in the region. De facto, Sunak supported Israel's move to achieve complete military control over the Gaza Strip and of course the continental shelf. The question arises, why?

    The answer is extremely banal: the IT company Infosys, owned by Rashi Sunak's wife, billionaire Akshata Murty, signed a $ 1.5 billion deal with BP in the summer of 2023 .

    At the same time , Sunak approved more than 100 licenses to develop oil and gas fields in the North Sea (what about the green energy transition?). The biggest beneficiary is again BP.

    The media fails to connect the fact that Sunak is de facto protecting BP's interests by preventing a ceasefire in Israel. But Rashi Sunak supports the Israeli military operation aimed at gaining complete control of the Gaza Strip.

    Rashi Sunak's support of the Israeli military operation means that he is not only serving British interests, but also US interests, as BP has a large number of US shareholders , notably Vanguard, BlackRock and JP Morgan. It is obvious that the interests of US corporations are also at stake, which also explains why the Biden government is doing so little to stop Israel's war crimes in Gaza, despite massive domestic criticism - including from within its own party .

    The necessary ethnic cleansing
    It also becomes clear that these war crimes, the indiscriminate bombing of civilians in Gaza, which has now led to 15,000 dead Palestinian civilians (almost half of them children), are not arbitrary cruelty: Israel wants to use terror to force the Palestinians to leave Gaza to leave so that Israel can take control of the Gaza Strip and the oil and gas fields.

    That Israel wants to take permanent control of the Gaza Strip became clear from the start , when the Israeli army first asked the Palestinians to leave Gaza City south and then repeatedly demanded that Egypt let the Palestinians leave Gaza.

    From the outset, critics have accused Israel of seeking ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip and wanting to permanently occupy the area. The reason why Israel is now doing this is apparently not Israeli security interests or blind hatred of the Palestinians, but rather, quite simply, the oil and gas deposits off the coast of Gaza.

    The redistribution of the European market
    After that, the development of the gas field could begin immediately and the gas pipeline, which is supposed to replace the Nord Streams that were blown up by the USA, could be put into operation before Russia and Germany meet after the end of the hostilities in Ukraine and with a possibly different government in Berlin At some point we will get closer enough to where the Nord Streams can be repaired and put back into operation.

    By then, the most important gas suppliers for Europe would already be the British BP and the Italian ENI, and no longer the Russian Gazprom.

    USA and Great Britain vs. France
    By the way, Washington and London have taken another step against France here. It is worth remembering the submarine deal that France and Australia concluded, which Australia then canceled because it instead joined the new AUKUS alliance with the USA and Great Britain and ordered their submarines. And it is also worth remembering the coup in Niger, in which the USA stabbed France in the back, so that France ultimately had to withdraw its troops from Niger , while the US base in Niger remained. The coup in Niger significantly weakened France's position in West Africa , but not the USA's position.

    Why the story about the oil field off Gaza was a step against France? In contrast to Libya at the time, no French companies were involved in the oil and gas field off Gaza. Could this explain why Macron is one of the few European politicians who has called on Israel to end its military operation in Gaza and the brutal bombardment of the civilian population there ?

    In plain language: While people around the world are shocked by the images of dead civilians and especially dead children, by the humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza and other atrocities, while the events divide society and force people to become involved in the conflict To choose a side, a $600 billion jackpot is split behind the scenes. Geopolitics is that simple.

    The Gaza War as a building block in the fight against Russia
    The cause of the Gaza war is not religion, not even history, nor terrorism. Nothing that the Western media reports is important.

    The reasons for the outbreak of the conflict between Palestine and Israel are money and natural resources that the USA and Great Britain need right now for the proxy war against Russia. Because one thing is obvious: the rapid development of the Palestinian gas reserves is primarily intended to prevent the Nord Stream from being put back into operation in a few years, when emotions have calmed down.

    One can of course believe in the statements of the German media and government politicians (of which the Greens in particular have always been against Nord Stream, but are not against other gas) about Israel's “right to self-defense”. One can of course believe that Israel was completely surprised by the Hamas attack, although that was more than doubtful from the start .

    Or you can remember all the wars between the USA and the West in the last few decades, which were always about natural resources (Iraqi, Libyan, Syrian, etc. oil and gas), which the Western media never discussed, but instead They babbled about the “democracy, human rights, freedom and prosperity” that these wars were supposed to bring to the supposedly oppressed peoples. This explains why the Western media fails to mention that the Israeli army is probably responsible for a large proportion of Israeli deaths , as outrage over Hamas atrocities is the pretext used to justify ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

    If you then look at this story geopolitically against the background of the conflict between the USA on the one hand and Russia and China on the other, it becomes even more obvious. Russia is set to be permanently displaced as Europe's energy supplier, and given the loss of US influence in the Persian Gulf, the US needs control over other major oil and gas reserves more than ever.

    Geopolitics is essentially a simple discipline because it is always about money and power. Also in Gaza, but the Western media is keeping that quiet.

    Addendum: In response to the first comment, I probably have to clarify and emphasize a few things again.

    Firstly: The gas field is certainly not very large compared to other gas fields, but the fact that 600 billion should not be a reason for war would be news to me. In addition, the involvement of European corporations in the gas field finally gives Israel the opportunity to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza (without an outcry in Europe), something that has long been dreamed of there.

    Secondly, you have to see it in the overall context of the region's other gas reserves: as long as the Palestinians are in Gaza and there are constant fighting, gas production in the entire region would be in constant danger. The Palestinians could use them as leverage against Israel once Europe becomes dependent on the gas and is therefore more willing to give in to Palestinian pressure.

    Third: The pipeline to Europe is of course intended for the entire gas reserves of the region, not just for this field. And again: As long as the Palestinians are in Gaza and there is no lasting peace in the region, the entire infrastructure and thus the replacement of Russian gas in Europe would be at risk, which would not least deter investors. There may be a reason that Israel only awarded the mining licenses after the start of the war, when it became clear that the “Palestine problem” would be solved and that the 600 billion would also be awarded as a bonus.

    Conclusion: The 600 billion are a good motivation to solve the “Gaza problem” and thus “by the way” to permanently displace Russia as a gas supplier from Europe.

    (Google Translated from German
    https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2023/die...krieg-in-gaza/)
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    I cant believe nothing has been posted here since 2023.

    This really is a genocide…

    A crisis unlike any other is unfolding in Gaza amid the Israel-Hamas war. The UN humanitarian chief Tom Fletcher has issued a dire warning that if the Jewish nation continues to block the passage of aid into the enclave, 14,000 babies are at risk of dying within 48 hours. Will Benjamin Netanyahu’s government heed this warning?

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