Bill Ryan's Mission and His Lunchbox, Sociopath du Jour, and Unicorn Urine

[Dennis Leahy]

This is a post in 2 parts: Part 1 is about money; Part 2 is about the Avalon forum vibe and evolution and its prominent writers' role in shaping the vibe.

PART 1: BILL'S LUNCHBOX
Part 1 is simply shaking the tree, asking EVERYONE, members and visitors, to donate some money TODAY to Bill and the forum. Not tomorrow, today. Bill needs it now (thus the "lunchbox" reference in the title.) Go re-read the Project Avalon mission statement if you need to, or at least stop and realize what a treasure it is to have a place in cyberspace to explore topics that are censored or verboten elsewhere, and there is nowhere with such a wide curated list of "alternative" topics to read (and for members, to add to.)

Figure out how much you can donate today. OK, double that amount, and add $10. Now, go hit the How to Donate button.

Many independent experts in finance and economy, and multiple psychics are predicting the biggest-in-history crash of the US economy and with its enmeshed ties to the rest of the world economy and the Global Corporate Network, a global meltdown of the economy worldwide (probably as planned by nefarious global controllers.) The day after it happens, you won't be able to pay for Bill's lunch, or the Avalon servers. Please be generous, and pay it ahead.

I'm planning to help with the logistics of transferring money from PayPal (the paypal mafia, as Whitney Webb calls them, won't allow Bill to just get his money out, directly.) I'd like to do it by tomorrow night, so please don't delay.

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PART 2: Sociopath du Jour, Unicorn Urine, and Avalon's prominent writers' role in shaping the vibe of the Avalon forum.

First, please note that this is strictly me, Dennis Leahy, writing what I'm about to write. Bill has no idea, and I deliberately did not run any of it past him. These are my opinions. I'll even fabricate some [MY OPINION] tags to show it is my opinion.

Second, if you are an emotional wimp, leave this thread right now. Just go donate and don't read any further.

[MY OPINION]
I've been a member of the Project Avalon forum since 2011, you know, "the good old days." A lot has changed since then. There were periods of explosive growth in the forum, with membership requests coming in so fast that it overwhelmed the moderation staff to process the requests. There have been periods of mass exodus from the forum too. Why?

To put it simply, there used to be a general vibe at Project Avalon that reflected reality: there were the bad guys: the global controllers and their minions, the secret societies, the self-proclaimed elite, the bloodline families, and the miscreants in all high positions in the major governments of the world, especially in the American Empire, and the "intel" agencies CIA, Mossad, MI6... and then there was us, the good guys: the citizens of the world, the workers that kept it all going, the peons, the peasants, the slaves, the useless eaters.

In the late 1800s, exploitative capitalism went from being a bad thing (oil, coal, steel, railroad "barons") to a good thing, when corporations went "public" and sold pieces of paper that assigned a dollar value to stocks, creating "the market" where the workers could share in a tiny fraction of the profits, but compromised the workers' loyalty to the working class. Some workers even became minions of the bad guys by becoming the "investor class."

The bad guys took over all major media, and the bad guys were then able, drip by drip, to control the narrative. The bad guys took over the education systems, dumbing-down the working class and formed an "elite-centric" reality view. With all the gaslighting and lies, the good guys were getting further and further from being able to discern the good guys from the bad guys, and reality from the phony reality projected upon us. The CIA even branded those who would not swallow Oswald as the assassin of JFK as "conspiracy theorists", a pejorative that stands to this day.

Fast forward to 2011 when I joined Project Avalon. It seemed as if most member/writers here still had a pretty good sense of who the bad guys were - regardless if they voted for one of the political miscreants in an election - Clinton, Bush, Obama in the US, Major, Blair, Brown in the UK, etc. The billionaires and trillionaires of the world stayed behind a layer of curtains, but we all knew they were bad guys who saw us as "useless eaters", and that they were sociopaths, greedily destroying the sensitive ecosystems of the world, poisoning the air, water, soil, and food supply. I think most of us could easily recognize sociopaths and knew they were bad guys.

Then in 2016, along came Donald Trump, a poster-boy of narcissism and sociopathy. He was rude and crude and lashed out at mass media as "fake", and suddenly the fact that he is a sociopath didn't matter any more. The fact that he is a bad guy, aligned with the Global Corporate Network and THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC. corporation, not American citizens, didn't matter. He became the celebrated sociopath, the Sociopath du Jour, at Avalon.

Avalon went from being an outpost for the the good guys that railed against ALL of the global controllers and all of the sociopaths to a bastion of Trump supporters who shouted down all others - even those who were simultaneously railing against Hillary and Barack. Members stopped looking at issues, one issue at a time, to giving blanket approval to whatever Trump did, no matter what.

"Q", a penultimate Trump fanboi, became a celebrity here.

Trump had declared his sociopathy in 2015, before being elected, at a town hall where he was asked about supporting torture (even after Obama had imprisoned CIA whistleblowers that publicly declared that no real intel had come from torture.)

Trump's first duty as president was to crush the Indian rebellion at Standing Rock who were trying to protect their water supply from an oil corporation.

Trump went 3 times to Duluth Minnesota (where I lived), and fought for a foreign corporation with an abysmal record of environmental and human rights violations to build a giant open pit sulfide mine at the headwaters of the Mississippi river.

Trump did everything the US military and the Israeli Mossad told him to do, including laying the groundwork for the destruction of Israel's enemies, Syria and Palestine.

Trump's IQ is 105, not 150, as someone mistakenly hinted. Instead of bringing back the steel industry in the US and then using tariffs to keep steel from being 'dumped' in the US (for example), our Dumbass In Chief tried to use tariffs to skim money off the top from all imports, mobster style, and reportedly wasn't even aware that US citizens have to pay the tariffs.

Probably the most egregious acts of sociopathy/psychopathy that Trump has committed is linking arms with the Zionists, completing the extermination of Palestinians that Biden's puppet-masters and Satanyahoo didn't complete, and creating a purge of anti-Zionists (mislabeled as Hamas supporters) in the US.

I can't believe I forgot to add the extraordinary rendition, persecution, imprisonment, and torture of Julian Assange, by orders of Donald Trump. Though some dictionaries don't make much or even any distinction between the two, I'd say this was an act of psychopathy by Trump, rather than sociopathy. Do you Trump supporters still believe this was a "5-D chess" move? Talk about the inability to distinguish between the bad guys and the good guys!

Still, some prominent members here maintain the delusion that Trump is not just a retarded toddler with a machine gun, a sociopath, a psychopath, anti-citizen and pro-corporate/pretend anti-globalist miscreant.

Some members here support the "post-modern Nazis" - the Israeli government and Mossad and Zionism, and hold someone like a Ben Shapiro or a Jordan Peterson in high esteem, despite their cheerleading the genocidal slaughter of 50,000+ Palestinians and destruction of Palestine.

I read a post the other day accusing student protestors of the Palestinian genocide of really being anti-white and standing up for Palestinians because they have brown skin - not that they might just have normal human decency, working ethical and moral standards to stand up for Palestinians and against the Zionazi genocide of Palestine. I nearly quit the forum that day, in disgust. One of the best writers on the forum. Way too intelligent to have been indoctrinated into Zionism support. Goddamn unbelievable.

Unconditional support for Trump and the Zionists has destroyed the vibe of the Project Avalon forum, and a bunch of people either just don't bother to write any more, or only write in non-controversial threads, and a bunch of sane voices that used to be here are gone. If this is to be a pro-Trump/Zionist oriented forum, then the couple dozen of you who have made it that way had better donate at least $1000 each to keep the forum going. (I can already hear your rebuttals starting with "Oct 7", which only means you paid no attention before that date, and are weak-minded against the Zionist/AIPAC/Israel propaganda machine.) You didn't just drink the Kool-aid, you drank the unicorn urine.

{edited: added the Julian Assange reference}
[/MY OPINION]

[BMJ]

I respect your opinion Dennis on these matters even if I don't agree with you. Controversy is one of the aspects I love about the forum because it can help me to have a better understanding

In relation to the big Q divide of 2019, if people weren't interested or found it offensive then all the Karen's should have ignored it instead of whining so much so that it became a members only thread.

I mean expressing our thoughts here shouldn't be censored by the forums MSM or those left leaning members.

The issue you touched which I will expand upon is the example of the like of Ben Shapiro & Jordan Petersen the alternative media is now heavily infiltrated by operatives. Yes the MSM has gone alternative to maintain the narrative you get 80% truth and 20% propaganda. Why do some of these guys " never " speaks badly of Israel, thats a dead give away.

So be careful not to take what is said by these types literally. Other examples would be Candace Owens, Shawn Ryan, Tucker Carlson & Alex Jones.

In regards to us Q types donating double and then some, well I will counter by saying the forum Karen's & leftists were the source of the pain and suffering and they should pay this fine, if they would have left us alone it would have been fine.

Lastly WWG1WGA.

[Mike]

I just wanna know who this mystery guy is who made the comments about student protesters. I think he's really on to something!

[JackMcThorn]

When-ever there is a doomsday rant, having seen it many times not follow through; I kind of wonder when I see it again and suspect it will go nowhere. Plan for the worst and hope for the best. The worst generally never happens, in my experience.

I think we should be clear that I suspect Bill only uses the resources provided for the forum and no other personal needs. It is not his lunch-box at stake here.

I think we should also be clear that the donate thread that is bounced from time to time indicates Bill is in good shape. This is part of the reason I have been waiting to donate until a time when it is needed. I am still thinking about what amount would be appropriate given the few years I've been accessing the forum. I have not donated yet because for some time I did not have the resources to spare. If the resources are needed, it would be more helpful to know what is needed in order for me to figure out what to give. [...and in retrospect of the past few years what I could give to account for that access. Sort of an amount that would be like a subscription for the time I've been here.]

What I don't really agree with is a call to arms based on political ideology without a description of what is needed. The reason is politics is a great divider. There is only a couple people I am wary of at this point and since the mods don't really manage it, I had no choice but to ignore them. This has brought peace back into the access of the forum.

What I think I will do is submit a donation on my own terms in due course. It has been on my mind since the last bounce of the donate thread. I think there should be a 'goal' of what is needed to keep the resources a few years into the future covered if it is not already. We just don't have that information.

[Isserley]

@Dennis interesting rant there
You are irritated by the pro-Trump sentiment on the forum, but what is your opinion about pro-Putin sentiment which prevails?
If what you said above is true and let me quote : "there were the bad guys: the global controllers and their minions, the secret societies, the self-proclaimed elite, the bloodline families, and the miscreants in all high positions in the major governments of the world.." .. but still not a word about Putin, who is considered the messiah on this forum. I'm just interested in your opinion, mine doesn't matter

[Irminsül]

Hi Dennis!
I think your words are impeccable. Congratulations on explaining everything so well. It’s a shame that there are people who align themselves with an Anglo-Zionist sociopath like Trump. Sadly, the whole world is like this. In my country, we have a cub of the great lion that is Trump, who in turn is a cub of satanyahu from the tribe of the Lion of Judah...
Complicated times to be living on Earth, no doubt...
Still, I feel, I believe, and based on everything I've been analyzing for years, I’m convinced that a Third World War is coming soon, followed by a meteor strike, and we’re also not far from the Second Coming of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ.
In the midst of all that, they’re going to stage the fake alien invasion — we must stay alert and keep our faith in God.
A hug from Argentum and thank you for your words!

[Bill Ryan]

This thread title made me laugh. (Surely one of the most unusual of the 100,000 thread titles that we have? )

A couple of responses from yours truly:

• My lunchbox is in very good shape, as am I. I'm blessed by being able to live very cheaply, surrounded by fresh fruit and veg from roadside market stalls where a big pineapple costs just $1. (And organic eggs are just $0.30 each, with raw milk at $0.35/pint.)

• Putin is the true 'Leader of the Free World' right now. (First pointed out by Michel Leclerc back in 2022, and I've shamelessly borrowed the term several times since then. )

• Trump may or may not be a sociopath, but as best I can see he's still the least-worst option for America right now — at least until Tulsi inherits the presidency in 2029. (Do see this thread, all about that forthcoming event.)
  
  As Chris Martenson has said several times, in the 2024 election the US didn't just dodge a bullet, they dodged a tank shell. But disregarding Trump's eccentric and often seemingly thoughtless words and looking only at his actions, we still may have to wait a while to witness a lot more being done that every one of us here would like to see.
  
  

[peace]

thanks for this.

[Open Minded Dude]

I really always appreciate your contributions, Dennis, as much as that of many others.

What I don't understand in this thread is the utter contradiction between Part 1 (advertisement FOR the forum with corresponding monetary incentivisation) and Part 2 (anti-advertising by putting down the forum based on unwanted political bias(es), not a really good marketing strategy - for Part 1 - if you ask me).

I admit I'm a bit confused.

[Johnnycomelately]

Dennis the Menace, please quit trying to stoke fear in this forum. Why didn’t you post this screed in bojancan’s thread TINTA? You pair would make great buddies.

I’m so full of counter-battery (artillery reference) this morning, not only do I forgive this neglect of God’s infinite wisdom, but I will send you a kind of a love potion-thought, intending for you to feel better.

Cheers stranger!

Not often that I fully align with Bill’s takes, but this made me laugh too.

[Arcturian108]

And to think that some dumbnut mod (no longer on the Forum) prevented me from being an Avalon member for two whole years because I mentioned in my forum application that I occasionally channel an angel. . . .

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
...surrounded by fresh fruit and veg from roadside market stalls where a big pineapple costs just $1. (And organic eggs are just $0.30 each, with raw milk at $0.35/pint.)

Minimum around here would be about $3 for the pineapple and such eggs around $1 or more.

My eggs are free because we have chickens, but, generally, lunch is around $10.

But, actually, in terms of badness, I'm banned from Paypal. Not because of any scam, but, just because I owed them a minor sum, when poverty and inflation took over and I defaulted on it. It's not exactly anyone's fault, it turns out that money is not a natural product, and so the constant coughing up is a fundamental flaw of our society.

I thoroughly ignored the Q stuff and learned there are threads where it wasn't worth interjecting a rebuttal. Not that I hold popular views or expect anyone to agree with me. Even with the "dip" caused by..."that"...I still think we have a great resource here and hope it can continue to run cheaply.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by BMJ (here)
I respect your opinion Dennis on these matters even if I don't agree with you. Controversy is one of the aspects I love about the forum because it can help me to have a better understanding

In relation to the big Q divide of 2019, if people weren't interested or found it offensive then all the Karen's should have ignored it instead of whining so much so that it became a members only thread.

I mean expressing our thoughts here shouldn't be censored by the forums MSM or those left leaning members.

The issue you touched which I will expand upon is the example of the like of Ben Shapiro & Jordan Petersen the alternative media is now heavily infiltrated by operatives. Yes the MSM has gone alternative to maintain the narrative you get 80% truth and 20% propaganda. Why do some of these guys " never " speaks badly of Israel, thats a dead give away.

So be careful not to take what is said by these types literally. Other examples would be Candace Owens, Shawn Ryan, Tucker Carlson & Alex Jones.

In regards to us Q types donating double and then some, well I will counter by saying the forum Karen's & leftists were the source of the pain and suffering and they should pay this fine, if they would have left us alone it would have been fine.

Lastly WWG1WGA.

You may want to read Part 2 of my post again - you missed the gist. It wasn't about Q, and it wasn't about Trump either. It was about the forum members going from being aligned with the people, us (I called us the good guys) to being aligned with the global controllers/financial elite/rulers of the world (I called them the bad guys.) If Hillary would have won the election in 2016, and forum members started being sycophantic about her and excusing her heinous actions, I would have sided with the good guys and decried support for Hillary and the bad guys.

Calling someone a "Karen" online is pejorative, mocking, condescending, bullying. You know, you screamed so loud about the Q thread being public that you got kicked off the forum for a while. Were you being a "Karen?" Or were you taking a stand and defending it? Bill made the decision to move the Q thread into members only, are you calling him a Karen too? My own objection to the Q thread was the same thing I just explained to you: Q supported bad guys, like Giuliani and Trump. I wanted threads supporting bad guys off the forum, not just tainting the 'members only' section of the forum. I wanted members supporting bad guys to wake the **** up and stop promoting bad guys.

My suggestion of donating $1000 wasn't a "fine", it was math: if there are only approximately 1 or 2 dozen supporters of the bad guys that have shouted down the good guys and have taken over the forum, then, if the forum is to survive, they will have to pay for it to remain online. Many good guys have left this forum, taking their donations with them. The transfer of funds this time that I'll do for Bill is the smallest ever. I'll admit that the donations I've made are to Bill and for Bill, not for the forum any more.

You may want to watch the Candace Owens episode where she interviews a survivor of Israel's attack on the USS Liberty ship, as well as her unabashed announcement of gaining the #1 position on AIPAC's "anti-semite" blacklist. She may have muffled herself back at the Daily Wire, or had a change of heart, but you might just want to check before you add her to a current list of Zionist supporters.

Posted by Mike (here)
I just wanna know who this mystery guy is who made the comments about student protesters. I think he's really on to something!

It was you, Mike. You. I couldn't believe my eyes. I thought it was parody at first. It is one of the most ignorant posts on the forum. Are you so devoid of compassion that you cannot even see the compassion in others? I hope you fix that hole in your heart, pump a little bit of blood to your heart chakra.

There, have I given you enough ammo to write a hit piece on me?

Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
When-ever there is a doomsday rant, having seen it many times not follow through; I kind of wonder when I see it again and suspect it will go nowhere. Plan for the worst and hope for the best. The worst generally never happens, in my experience.

I think we should be clear that I suspect Bill only uses the resources provided for the forum and no other personal needs. It is not his lunch-box at stake here.

I think we should also be clear that the donate thread that is bounced from time to time indicates Bill is in good shape. This is part of the reason I have been waiting to donate until a time when it is needed. I am still thinking about what amount would be appropriate given the few years I've been accessing the forum. I have not donated yet because for some time I did not have the resources to spare. If the resources are needed, it would be more helpful to know what is needed in order for me to figure out what to give. [...and in retrospect of the past few years what I could give to account for that access. Sort of an amount that would be like a subscription for the time I've been here.]

What I don't really agree with is a call to arms based on political ideology without a description of what is needed. The reason is politics is a great divider. There is only a couple people I am wary of at this point and since the mods don't really manage it, I had no choice but to ignore them. This has brought peace back into the access of the forum.

What I think I will do is submit a donation on my own terms in due course. It has been on my mind since the last bounce of the donate thread. I think there should be a 'goal' of what is needed to keep the resources a few years into the future covered if it is not already. We just don't have that information.

If you paid attention a decade ago, you'd know that Bill's girlfriend, Christine, stole all his money and ran off (oh, and a few forum members actually sided with the bad guy, Christine, apparently caught in her web of deceit with fluffy, disingenuous "love and light" ramblings. Bill doesn't do interviews anymore, and I bet the revenues from yootoob PA videos (if they are even monitized), wouldn't buy Bill lunch. Bill has no other income than the money left over after paying the very high monthly invoice for private forum hosting and hardware rental. You want to starve him to death like a Palestinian child, then don't donate. Yes, there have been previous donor drives that were specifically for forum hardware and software and private hosting. I thought the hardware and private server were overkill, but in retrospect, I think Paul was right and that hardware and his technical skillset are the reason the forum has survived online attacks by some of the bad guys. (And, I say that knowing that Paul doesn't like me, and I don't like him - but I do respect his technical/administrative skills.)

You also missed the gist of Part 2. I'm not some dumbass Democrat yelling at Republicans - this isn't about politics, it's about supporting the bad guys (that includes ALL the high-ranking politicians and the other bad guys I listed.)

Your excuse not to donate is weak.

Posted by Isserley (here)
@Dennis interesting rant there
You are irritated by the pro-Trump sentiment on the forum, but what is your opinion about pro-Putin sentiment which prevails?
If what you said above is true and let me quote : "there were the bad guys: the global controllers and their minions, the secret societies, the self-proclaimed elite, the bloodline families, and the miscreants in all high positions in the major governments of the world.." .. but still not a word about Putin, who is considered the messiah on this forum. I'm just interested in your opinion, mine doesn't matter

You also missed the gist of Part 2. Trump was mentioned because he was the catalyst for some members to switch the vibe of the forum from exposing ALL the bad guys and their deeds to celebrating one of the bad guys.

Asking my views on Putin are an obfuscation and deflection attempt. I already said, "...the miscreants in all high positions in the major governments of the world..." Hitler could paint. Trump can golf. Putin can truthfully enunciate the US Deep State agenda. That doesn't make them good guys.

Posted by Irminsül (here)
Hi Dennis!
I think your words are impeccable. Congratulations on explaining everything so well. It’s a shame that there are people who align themselves with an Anglo-Zionist sociopath like Trump. Sadly, the whole world is like this. In my country, we have a cub of the great lion that is Trump, who in turn is a cub of satanyahu from the tribe of the Lion of Judah...
Complicated times to be living on Earth, no doubt...
Still, I feel, I believe, and based on everything I've been analyzing for years, I’m convinced that a Third World War is coming soon, followed by a meteor strike, and we’re also not far from the Second Coming of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ.
In the midst of all that, they’re going to stage the fake alien invasion — we must stay alert and keep our faith in God.
A hug from Argentum and thank you for your words!

Thanks for the thumb's up.

As an aside, I don't personally think Yeshua/Jesus, the Christ-Conscious Ascended Master, is physically coming back, but rather that the flame of Christ-Consciousness will be passed to a number of spiritually advanced, "high vibrating" individuals here on Earth, to disseminate. I have a feeling that we will find out if one of those 2 ideas are true in our lifetimes (as long as I can live to be 100!)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
This thread title made me laugh. (Surely one of the most unusual of the 100,000 thread titles that we have? )

A couple of responses from yours truly:

• My lunchbox is in very good shape, as am I. I'm blessed by being able to live very cheaply, surrounded by fresh fruit and veg from roadside market stalls where a big pineapple costs just $1. (And organic eggs are just $0.30 each, with raw milk at $0.35/pint.)

• Putin is the true 'Leader of the Free World' right now. (First pointed out by Michel Leclerc back in 2022, and I've shamelessly borrowed the term several times since then. )

• Trump may or may not be a sociopath, but as best I can see he's still the least-worst option for America right now — at least until Tulsi inherits the presidency in 2029. (Do see this thread, all about that forthcoming event.)
  
  As Chris Martenson has said several times, in the 2024 election the US didn't just dodge a bullet, they dodged a tank shell. But disregarding Trump's eccentric and often seemingly thoughtless words and looking only at his actions, we still may have to wait a while to witness a lot more being done that every one of us here would like to see.
  
  

Bill, I'm sure you've heard the story of the wise old grandmother that wished her granddaughter "enough." There's a lot of wisdom in that anecdote. Kudos to you for living simply, for not needing much and especially for knowing that you have enough. I was not hoping for forum members to donate vast shekels so that you could eat Komodo Dragon steak with a side of Beluga caviar, and wash it down with a bottle of 1954 Mogan David's finest MD 20-20!

On the other hand, you don't sell advertising space on the forum or have corporate sponsors. (You know, "Project Avalon, brought to you by the good folks at Pfizer!"), and I have the feeling that a lot of members and guests just take it for granted that the forum is free. However, this is your work, your project, and you invest vast numbers of your hours to the forum. Besides all those unpaid labor hours, you need to pay for forum hosting and hardware rental, plus eggs, pineapples, toilet paper, high altitude goggles so you don't go blind, and maybe a few other essentials. Members and guests of the forum should want to help you out financially. Let 'em!

It's not germane to this thread that you think highly of Putin, nor does it matter what I think about Putin. (But we won't let that stop us! hahahaha) An objective observer should be able to tell that Putin is a measured and articulate master statesman, and that the US Deep State would have already destroyed Russia if Putin wasn't at the helm. He seems to be playing at least 3-D chess against checker players like Trump. I have no real idea how many body bags he has filled, and whether the corpses were really American Empire operatives, anti-Russian Russian stooges that he culled from the herd. Like John Lennon's line, "and if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow", you do elicit grumbling from a percentage of the unwashed masses by placing Putin on too high a pedestal, deserved or not.

Trump is a sociopath and a narcissist. These are attributes like his weight, height, and eye color. It doesn't matter if you think he's a great US president or not.

The "least-worst" comparison is the crux of the issue. It is binary thinking. "Better" is a comparison that must not be conflated to "good." A 5-gallon bucket of vomit might be considered by someone as being better than a 5-gallon bucket of diarrhea, but neither bucket is good. Even "better" is a misnomer to the 50,000 dead Palestinians that Trump and Biden aided and abetted the Zionazi Israelis to snuff. Now Trump has been elected - we don't need to compare him to anyone else. His actions as president are his actions. Trump's hooks into the Global Corporate Network are slightly different than Biden's or Harris' hooks into the Global Corporate Network, but we can discard the latter and focus on Trump's. Trump is the first obvious bad guy that this forum has embraced and lauded and supported. Embracing a bad guy was a major turning point, a major milestone in the devolution of this forum.

Tell the Palestinians how lucky they are that Joe "I am a Zionist" Biden or The Joker Harris yuk yuk Zionist didn't make it to the American throne room, and instead they got Donald "I am a Christian Zionist" Trump instead. Bullets, tank shells, hellfire missiles - they all kill. Trump has done nothing positive for the American citizenry, only for the financially wealthy and corporations and the Military-Intelligence Industrial Complex.

Posted by peace (here)
thanks for this.

You're welcome!

Posted by Open Minded Dude (here)
I really always appreciate your contributions, Dennis, as much as that of many others.

What I don't understand in this thread is the utter contradiction between Part 1 (advertisement FOR the forum with corresponding monetary incentivisation) and Part 2 (anti-advertising by putting down the forum based on unwanted political bias(es), not a really good marketing strategy - for Part 1 - if you ask me).

I admit I'm a bit confused.

It's a call for everyone to donate, and for everyone, including Bill, to decide if we want to keep going as a Zionist supporting, bad guy supporting forum. If that is true, then the attrition of members that don't want to be part of a bad guy supporting forum will escalate, taking their donor money away, and the Zionists and bad guy and apartheid and genocide supporters here will have to step up with a lot of cash to keep it going. You can see from the responses to my post how it's going to go. Like Roger Waters says, "What did you do during the genocide?" and in this forum the question is, "What did you do when the Project Avalon forum got taken over by Zionists and supporters of the bad guys?

What I've done is to stand up and speak the truth, like the college kids protesting Zionism and genocide. Barring a miracle turnaround on who the forum supports, I'm sure I've telegraphed my next move.

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Dennis the Menace, please quit trying to stoke fear in this forum. Why didn’t you post this screed in bojancan’s thread TINTA? You pair would make great buddies.

I’m so full of counter-battery (artillery reference) this morning, not only do I forgive this neglect of God’s infinite wisdom, but I will send you a kind of a love potion-thought, intending for you to feel better.

Cheers stranger!

Not often that I fully align with Bill’s takes, but this made me laugh too.

Fascinating rebuttal, Johnny. Very insightful. What is your favorite color?

And that, boys and girls, is the end of my participation in this thread.

[JackMcThorn]

If you paid attention a decade ago, you'd know that Bill's girlfriend, Christine, stole all his money and ran off (oh, and a few forum members actually sided with the bad guy, Christine, apparently caught in her web of deceit with fluffy, disingenuous "love and light" ramblings. Bill doesn't do interviews anymore, and I bet the revenues from yootoob PA videos (if they are even monitized), wouldn't buy Bill lunch. Bill has no other income than the money left over after paying the very high monthly invoice for private forum hosting and hardware rental. You want to starve him to death like a Palestinian child, then don't donate. Yes, there have been previous donor drives that were specifically for forum hardware and software and private hosting. I thought the hardware and private server were overkill, but in retrospect, I think Paul was right and that hardware and his technical skillset are the reason the forum has survived online attacks by some of the bad guys. (And, I say that knowing that Paul doesn't like me, and I don't like him - but I do respect his technical/administrative skills.)

You also missed the gist of Part 2. I'm not some dumbass Democrat yelling at Republicans - this isn't about politics, it's about supporting the bad guys (that includes ALL the high-ranking politicians and the other bad guys I listed.)

Your excuse not to donate is weak.

...And that, boys and girls, is the end of my participation in this thread.

I wasn't here a decade ago [4 years abouts] and Bill's personal information and experience is not 'common knowledge'.

You sir, are a piece of work. Re-read what you wrote to me. I will donate when and if I care to and will not be strong-armed by a lunatic [that takes his ball and goes home after a weak rant and a spiteful retort.]

Your anger is misplaced and your conduct is unacceptable. I will be thinking this over deeply.

[arjunaloka_official]

In my opinion, the challenge we still often face is the good old "divide and conquer" approach. I try to avoid this trap by focusing on a single issue, regardless of the party representing it.

For example, a few weeks ago, I participated in a protest for peace in Ukraine. This protest was organized by the German Left, and Antifa (anti-fascist) groups also participated. Many people I know did not want to participate in this protest, not because they are pro war, but because they do not want to protest alongside Antifa. Do I support everything Antifa supports? Quite the opposite. During the alleged pandemic, many on the German Left—including Antifa—supported lockdowns and vaccination mandates. That's why I protested against these mandates (and as a result, against Antifa defending them) with some old-fashioned communists and right-wingers at the time.

As long as we cannot separate topics from parties or individuals, we will remain in the "divide and conquer" situation perfectly described in the movie "The Life of Brian":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

[Orph]

Well,.....dang. Dennis won't be back to this thread. And I was going to say he needed to find a time machine to take him back to 1970 and Newport Ave.

[HopSan]

Hmm...

Is this thread an example of the famous Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Note: I am a newcomer, and don't know much of your older histories.

Peace, friends!

[Mike]

Dennis, I know the post is about me. How could I not? Didn't you see the irony in my post?

This should clear things up: in terms of my priority list, Gaza is hovering somewhere around the 1 million mark..which means as far as personal importance places it about 999,900 spots behind my hangnails and the dander that gets on my car after I wash it.

And in case that isn't clear enough, I'll just state plainly that I don't care about any of it. Not in any kind of personal way anyway. And it's not because I'm a cold, unfeeling guy or because I have a hole in my heart or whatever it is you said about chakras. I'm none of those things. I'm a softy actually. I cry when I watch undercover boss.

It's because I have no personal connection to it. It's because I live on the other side of the world. It's because I've never been there, I never will go there, I don't know anyone there, I likely never will know anyone there, the conflict has been going on since forever, the conflict shows no signs of slowing, there's nothing I can do about it, and it's not my fight. There are conflicts going on all over the world, and if I was determined to grieve them all I'd be weeping into my belly button 24 hours a day or shrieking uncontrollably along with those student protesters you love so much. No thanks.

I have no hard opinion on the conflict save that it's bad. Regardless, I still have to get up and go to work everyday and the rent has to be paid. Life goes on...no matter what is happening in the world and no matter how awful.

Emotion operates in concentric circles, meaning most people feel strongest about themselves and their immediate family..their boyfriends, girlfriends, wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, cousins etc. That's the first circle and the smallest. Next comes their friends and their immediate community. That's a slightly bigger circle. And it moves outward into the world, with each circle getting larger but less emotionally charged.

Emotion and energy are the same thing. You can't possibly care about what's going on on the other side of the world as much as you do your immediate family and community because no one has that kind of energy. If you find that your concentric circles of emotion have reached Gaza and you still have this huge reservoir of emotional energy to burn, it's not a sign of your virtue; it's a sign that you're emotionally dysregulated or that you're offering an abstraction the emotion and energy that you should have offered your family or friends or inner circle.

I feel badly about it all and share the sense of horror about it, but I refuse to join the queue of people climbing over each other to declare their undying concern for a conflict they imagine they know something about but generally do not. It's nothing but theatre. It's a form of sociopathy masquerading as compassion. I don't think you're able to separate the two.

Being obsessed with Gaza is a luxury. It's the same luxury people who are obsessed with racism share. Or transphobia, or (fill in the blank). If you have that kind of emotional energy to burn, you're likely not having to burn it at a lousy 50 hour a week job, or worrying about how you're gonna pay the rent, or buy groceries. You're likely an entitled student or an adult with misguided priorities. Or maybe you're a buddha-like figure, or Christ-like, and your energy and compassion know no bounds.

It's a hysteria, a social contagion, and generally speaking a phony affectation. It allows people to signal their virtue without ever having to demonstrate it. It's an easy path to social credit. Of the people droning on about Gaza all the time, I'd say most are just using it as a proxy to discharge the negative emotion they're feeling about personal issues. Or, there's no one in their inner orbit to share their emotional energy with, and it's being expressed in this manner.

I'm not a Zionist, whatever the f#ck that means. I'm just a guy with finite energy, observing and reporting on reality.

[Jaak]

Posted by arjunaloka_official (here)
In my opinion, the challenge we still often face is the good old "divide and conquer" approach. I try to avoid this trap by focusing on a single issue, regardless of the party representing it.

For example, a few weeks ago, I participated in a protest for peace in Ukraine. This protest was organized by the German Left, and Antifa (anti-fascist) groups also participated. Many people I know did not want to participate in this protest, not because they are pro war, but because they do not want to protest alongside Antifa. Do I support everything Antifa supports? Quite the opposite. During the alleged pandemic, many on the German Left—including Antifa—supported lockdowns and vaccination mandates. That's why I protested against these mandates (and as a result, against Antifa defending them) with some old-fashioned communists and right-wingers at the time.

As long as we cannot separate topics from parties or individuals, we will remain in the "divide and conquer" situation perfectly described in the movie "The Life of Brian":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

I lived together and hanged out with anti-fa people from all over world when i lived in squats of Barcelona for 18 years .
From my experience 95% of them are total dimwits who dont read anything unless it supports their ideology . Self-destruction seems for them better than any kind of self improvement and society starts from individuals and that attitude amplifies to other areas.
When i sayd anything negative about Israel and what they are doing to Palestinians i would quickly be called a nazi . Same happened if you pointed out Soros or any other jewish billionaire who runs the show.
Now when its popular to be against israel they have largely also done so which is funny. Couple years ago anybody who was against israel in any way would be labeled fascist and nazi by those antifa people and might end up in hospital.
Big change happened after the Occupy Wall street (made by FBI) when class warfare (poor vs rich) got changed to left vs right . Make the peasants fight each other not their overlords... And so far it seems it has worked quite well. Divide and Conquer.
Much respect for Dennis to speak his mind when it is unpopular to do so. Im also untrustful when it comes to Trump or Musk or Putin etc just because i have read and researched them quite a lot and i largely agree with Dennis . They are all part of the cabal/NWO who aint your friends.
People need a saviour but only one who can save them is themself , not some crooked billionaire.
Dennis please dont leave , people might largely agree on things you dont but majority has never been right about anything and atleast in here you can speak your mind and present your thoughts without getting banned even if those thoughts and opinions dont match with the owner of forum. Big respect for Bill that he aint banning everybody or anybody who he disagrees with him as it is very common is most places in internet now. Echo-chambers everywhere.

[edina]

Posted by Mike (here)
Dennis, I know the post is about me. How could I not? Didn't you see the irony in my post?

This should clear things up: in terms of my priority list, Gaza is hovering somewhere around the 1 million mark..which means as far as personal importance places it about 999,900 spots behind my hangnails and the dander that gets on my car after I wash it.

And in case that isn't clear enough, I'll just state plainly that I don't care about any of it. Not in any kind of personal way anyway. And it's not because I'm a cold, unfeeling guy or because I have a hole in my heart or whatever it is you said about chakras. I'm none of those things. I'm a softy actually. I cry when I watch undercover boss.

It's because I have no personal connection to it. It's because I live on the other side of the world. It's because I've never been there, I never will go there, I don't know anyone there, I likely never will know anyone there, the conflict has been going on since forever, the conflict shows no signs of slowing, there's nothing I can do about it, and it's not my fight. There are conflicts going on all over the world, and if I was determined to grieve them all I'm be weeping into my belly button 24 hours a day or shrieking uncontrollably along with those student protesters you love so much. No thanks.

I have no hard opinion on the conflict save that it's bad. Regardless, I still have to get up and go to work everyday and the rent has to be paid. Life goes on...no matter what is happening in the world and no matter how awful.

Emotion operates in concentric circles, meaning most people feel strongest about themselves and their immediate family..their boyfriends, girlfriends, wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, cousins etc. That's the first circle and the smallest. Next comes their friends and their immediate community. That's a slightly bigger circle. And it moves outward into the world, with each circle getting larger but less emotionally charged.

Emotion and energy are the same thing. You can't possibly care about what's going on on the other side of the world as much as you do your immediate family and community because no one has that kind of energy. If you find that your concentric circles of emotion have reached Gaza and you still have this huge reservoir of emotional energy to burn, it's not a sign of your virtue; it's a sign that you're emotionally dysregulated or that you're offering an abstraction the emotion and energy that you should have offered your family or friends or inner circle.

I feel badly about it all and share the sense of horror about it, but I refuse to join the queue of people climbing over each other to declare their undying concern for a conflict they imagine they know something about but generally do not. It's nothing but theatre. It's a form of sociopathy masquerading as compassion. I don't think you're able to separate the two.

Being obsessed with Gaza is a luxury. It's the same luxury people who are obsessed with racism share. Or transphobia, or (fill in the blank). If you have that kind of emotional energy to burn, you're likely not having to burn it at a lousy 50 hour a week job, or worrying about how you're gonna pay the rent, or buy groceries. You're likely an entitled student or an adult with misguided priorities. Or maybe you're a buddha-like figure, or Christ-like, and your energy and compassion know no bounds.

It's a hysteria, a social contagion, and generally speaking a phony affectation. It allows people to signal their virtue without ever having to demonstrate it. It's an easy path to social credit. Of the people droning on about Gaza all the time, I'd say most are just using it as a proxy to discharge the negative emotion they're feeling about personal issues. Or, there's no one in their inner orbit to share their emotional energy with, and it's being expressed in this manner.

I'm not a Zionist, whatever the f#ck that means. I'm just a guy with finite energy, observing and reporting on reality.

Mike, sometimes I'm blown away with your clarity of thought and self-awareness, your capacity to communicate the mundane messiness of humanity in a distinctly compassionate way.
I imagine most people find themselves feeling just like you described here. It's real. It's authentic. And, gives pause to really think this through.
I find there are no easy answers.