Bill Ryan's Mission and His Lunchbox, Sociopath du Jour, and Unicorn Urine

[edina]

Posted by HopSan (here)
Hmm...

Is this thread an example of the famous Trump Derangement Syndrome?

Note: I am a newcomer, and don't know much of your older histories.

Peace, friends!

Maybe, but in this case, I don't think so.
It's a pattern of behavior that existed well before the advent of Trump Derangement Syndrome, (TDS).

[Gemma13]

"And that, boys and girls, is the end of my participation in this thread."

Ah Dennis, so predictable. My toddler could never outperform your look-at-me tantrum before slamming the door to have a good 'ol sulk.

Yeah, I see ya, peeking out... come on now, come back. It's your game of tug-of-war after all.

No? Not enough numbers on your side of the rope yet?

With your insider information why let that bother you... oh wait, hasn't Gods email with superpower activation codes and confirmation that you're the returned flame of Jesus come through yet?

Sheesh, no wonder we're the bad guys getting tossed around the temple and issued early judgement cards. Thanks for the heads up buddy. I'll definitely consider your head space for, I dunno, 30 seconds.

[Jim_Duyer]

I often wonder why, Dennis, we have the starving Palestinian child at all - don't their fellow Islamic folks from super-rich countries kick in anything? Oh, they do? Then who steals it? For weapons? So whose fault is that then?
What seems to be happening is that, like the constant, bleating reply of "we suffered a Holocaust, that's why" from the Jews, we have the bomb-shelled and broke Palestinian kids.
So, just like the Jews, who get much more sympathy than they deserve IMHO, we are equating, it seems, starving Palestinians with some need or desire to make it up to them by allowing the Muslims to get away with practically anything, in our own countries.
IMHO neither side is Holy, Correct, Pure or even decent, in this mess. But we simply can not allow this to become, like the Holocaust, a reason to allow them to impose their stupid religious crap on us. Or their politics, or their economics (or lack of), or their communist sympathies.

[mountain_jim]

In the words of the Battlestar Galactica finale, this thread is a recurrent pattern

All this has happened before, and all this will happen again

(and I have been here for 14.5 years and 2 years auditing before that.

That's one month before Dennis for those keeping count.)

As I have responded to him in the past, one can have the view that Trump was absolutely the best option for trying to save the good ole USA as a functioning nation in each of the 3 elections for which I voted for him -

while abhorring the control that the Zionists appear to have over him and this country, from the 1948 Rothschild strong-arming the US allowing the taking away of the land of Palestinians and creating Isreal, to covering up 9/11's true nature, to suppressing the truth of the daily atrocities committed by the Zionists as they continue to go against every legal framework to remove every last non-Zionist from the lands well beyond even that agreed to in that terrible agreement.

One can even be entertained by Trump's excessive, master-troller personality on the world stage, and still have concerns about where all this may end up.

One can also view his rise as supported by a secretive white-hat group with intent to out the corruption and preserve our remaining freedoms, and one can even hope that the Q movement he clearly leverages and acts as a participant of might have some real meaning behind:

March 10, 2018 Drop #916



In my humble opinion, these views do not and did not contribute to the decline of Avalon that Dennis always decries in these semiannual eruptions, and many members that took their ball and went elsewhere did exhibit TDS and leftist or 'purist libertarian' views that have this idealized concept of never working within any of these systems for the needed changes, or perhaps like Dennis were pining for some enlightened Reset Button to appear and allow us to push it, thus fixing everything.

Other members were aghast at some of us pointing out the pharma-fascist nature of the poison covid jabs and left over that, to join a community where no dissent from their prevailing views was tolerated.

Consider where this country would be now with puppet Kamala following non-conscious Biden, with secretive, intent upon US-destruction controllers still in power while censoring every alternative viewpoint, as the UK is now.

.....

(and I contribute financially to Avalon at least twice a year and don't need Dennis telling me how much I should be contributing based on my judgements concerning which voting levers to push to improve citizens' lives in the good ole USA.)

[Bill Ryan]

Dear Friends,

Let's all cool it just a little.

Let me share just one or two more things!

• I regard Dennis as one of my closest friends on the forum. He's been here forever, has been a moderator several times when we very urgently needed a hand, and he has a heart of gold. That alone may help us understand why he feels quite a few things so very strongly which he sees happening in the world. (And besides being a dedicated friend of the forum, he'd be a willing friend of anyone else who might ever need one at the time.)

• Dennis and I don't agree 100% about absolutely everything, but that doesn't matter. (And neither should it between friends.)

• Dennis wrote "unconditional support for Trump and the Zionists has destroyed the vibe of the Project Avalon forum" — but as many reading this may be fully aware, there's no such "unconditional support" for either. In fact, I'd argue strongly that there's not a single active member supporting Zionism here, though one or two (maybe no more than that) are generally sympathetic to Israel.

• I don't think there's a single active Avalon member about whom I could ever once say: "I don't like them". On the contrary, there are dozens whom I very greatly admire. We are far more united by what we care about and understand than by whatever we might temporarily disagree about.

• I think what does characterize the Avalon community is its profound awareness and care for the serious problems (and sometimes alarmingly dystopian possibilities) that face not only all humans but all living things on the planet.

• In this post on the WW3/Ukraine/Russia thread, norman referred to "a view from orbit". Amen to that.

(whatever that is! )

[rgray222]

Dennis
I admire your ability to open the door and lob in a percussion grenade before slamming the door closed. The sh$t-eating grin on your face must be ear to ear. Don't get me wrong, your posts are always well written, entertaining and fun to read, but this time you have surpassed yourself; this post was unparalleled clickbait. You may have shaken the island paradise of the western seas for a very brief moment, but I don't think you destroyed the vibe, nor was it destroyed before your grenade discharged. I think the joint needs a little spice and a brief tectonic shake from time to time, so you are to be applauded. Bravo

If everyone walks the same path day after day eventually people will stop coming out to play.

[Rawhide68]

Why not just do what Dennis pointed out in the top of this thread

"simply shaking the tree, asking EVERYONE, members and visitors, to donate some money TODAY to Bill and the forum. Not tomorrow, today. Bill needs it now (thus the "lunchbox" reference in the title.) Go re-read the Project Avalon mission statement if you need to, or at least stop and realize what a treasure it is to have a place in cyberspace to explore topics that are censored or verboten elsewhere"

[edina]

I remember when the Avalon Mission Statement was a bit different than this, but this is the current version:

The principal purpose of the Avalon Forum:
To encourage and support positive, constructive, and high quality dialog and networking with the goal of creating the future on Planet Earth for ourselves and our children that we want to experience.

(bolded emphasis is mine)

A Donate button is on that page, as well, for any who feel ready to donate.

Bill, Dennis mentioned some issues with Paypal? What's happening with that?

Also I want to thank you for your clarifying statement here:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

• Dennis wrote "unconditional support for Trump and the Zionists has destroyed the vibe of the Project Avalon forum" — but as many reading this may be fully aware, there's no such "unconditional support" for either. In fact, I'd argue strongly that there's not a single active member supporting Zionism here, though one or two (maybe no more than that) are generally sympathetic to Israel.

Hyperbole by Dennis, maybe? (That's rhetorical, no one needs to answer that, some personality types tend toward hyperbole, and/or exaggeration, Trump being of that personality type, himself. He's often misunderstood in that way, each personality type has it's pros and cons.)

Are you concerned with the smaller active membership on the forum?

I don't think there needs to be a blame game. Different people disengage for many different reasons. As far as the repeated accusation regarding the Q thread. I remember seeing half the active membership drop from an average of around 300, to 150ish average, when the Q thread was put behind a members only wall. It's probably a matter of people's personal perception as to how they read it.

I've noticed these things happen in waves, and that there's an ebb and flow to engagement.

If people treat each other well, and with common decency and respect, and the conversations and information stay interesting, I think Avalon will continue to do well.

For some people, Avalon is much like family. And that has real world value, as far as I'm concerned.

[Johnnycomelately]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
Dennis the Menace, please quit trying to stoke fear in this forum. Why didn’t you post this screed in bojancan’s thread TINTA? You pair would make great buddies.

I’m so full of counter-battery (artillery reference) this morning, not only do I forgive this neglect of God’s infinite wisdom, but I will send you a kind of a love potion-thought, intending for you to feel better.

Cheers stranger!

Not often that I fully align with Bill’s takes, but this made me laugh too.

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Fascinating rebuttal, Johnny. Very insightful. What is your favorite color?

And that, boys and girls, is the end of my participation in this thread.

I’ve noticed that Dennis has honoured me, with his last words on this thread, so far. Thank you, my cosmic stranger buddy!

Funny to me, that you asked my favorite colour. It actually changes, depending on what I’m looking for. Right now, since I’m looking for you to lighten up, I’d say fuchsia. But you can keep your heavy accents of black. They work together well.

Cheers again, my weirdo buddy-stranger! 🖤

[ExomatrixTV]

Before you Judge...

Before you Judge... "W.O.N.D.E.R.!"

W - is it Wise?
O - is it Open Minded?
N - is it Needed?
D - is it "Drama"-based?
E - is it Empathic?
R - is it Real?

Before you Speak... "T.H.I.N.K.!"

T - is it True?
H - is it Helpful?
I - is it Inspiring?
N - is it Necessary?
K - is it Kind?

Before you Act... "F.E.E.L.!"

F - is it Fair?
E - is it Emotional?
E - is it Ego-driven?
L - is it out of Love?

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

• For all people who are really "ahead of their times" ...
  

Who will be known to be vindicated in the (near) future many times, may already feel that specific vibe right now, thus strengthened by it ... So much so that there are no real "worries" about "being laughed at" ... As it will be their karma not doing anything about the insights that turned out to be correct.

Let's say somebody assumes "you can not prove anything you claim", meanwhile it is happening ... unfolding day by day ... Why on Earth does that person refuse to ask: "How did you know?" ... What psychological mechanism is at play here? ... Especially when you get vindicated, so many still refuse to apologize nor want to find out more about your "visionary" gifts.

Some of the "key ingredients" of having such a gift are in my view: 01. Living in self-honesty, 02. Always having antenna open that things could be different from what it appears to be ... 03. Willingness to learn new insights ... 04. Not lying to yourself ("to fit in") 05. Having a genuine inquiring mind. 06. Not mind being corrected if need be (learning from mistakes) 07. Not being afraid to be different from the vast majority. 08. Truly care for people's well-being 09. Having an authentic sense of wonderment (like a child does) 10. Not projecting own shortcomings/incompetence/fears on others.

• Now imagine that the "future you" is all that and the "present you" too ... if you receive anything from your "future (multidimensional) you" it has to be like that.

In my view, anything less would not work ... and anyone who does not have these standards may not want to find out how to live like that because it can be very confrontational to live like that... it takes tremendous courage and sometimes big sacrifices to be able to stay in your integrity ... which is almost always connected to how you see yourself in all that is happening in our world.

So, the question about "negative time" ... What is your "state of being" reading the 10 points (there are actually more) now that can be picked up in the past and months later from now the same question remains and years later same question! ... See, we all can start making a feedback loop depending on your "state of being" taking more responsibility for your quality of thinking, reasoning & "judging".

• When people are in a state of fear, they may occasionally predict/foresee future events correctly, but that is not what I am talking about.

What I am describing here is a multifaceted process of all levels of "being" ... including doing "rational based" research, including verifying things, including triple checking assumptions, including seeking contradictions when they appear, including questioning own assumptions ... When doing that, some of it will be "guided" through intuitive means and that is 100% connected to the 10 points I just shared here

Hopefully people can relate and resonate what I am trying to explain today, because I feel strongly connected to my "future self" every day, which is (also according to Teal Swan) not always "fun" to have ... it takes a lot of self-knowledge, knowing your weaknesses and working on it to overcome them! ... Am sure that I am not the only one that acts like that or feels that way.

cheers,
John 🦜🦋🌳

[ExomatrixTV]

Posted by superior88 (here)
...

• Avalonians will recognize/resonate with most of these personality traits I summed up below, as outsiders may only recognize/resonate with some of it:

01. Being ahead of time ... How you know you are "ahead of time"? ... Simple: Count how many times you are vindicated last decades! (or years).

02. No fear of being called out, >>> as truth, never fears to be questioned!

03. Understanding how "group psychology" works in any form ... Staying in your own integrity & self-honesty is KEY!

04. Allowing yourself to surprise yourself, going beyond dwelling in self-pity

• Always having an antenna open that:

A. things could be (very) different from what you think it is ...
B. things could be (very) different from how it appears to be (how it is sold to us by anyone!)
C. things could be (very) different from what you assume "how it is".

05. Being aware how (sometimes) self-deception works and why ... in many forms, depending on where you are and who you're working with.

06. Being aware how (sometimes) self-sabotage works and why!

07. No need to be told: "what to think" but rather: "how to think/reason" by asking much better (deeper) questions! That is beyond the mass induced / pushed narratives.

08. Understanding human history, especially the human conditioning, that is beyond what "history books at schools" teaches.

09. Being aware that in the world of the paranormal, many seem to love to "jump to conclusions" falsely assuming: "it must be mind control" or "demons" projecting their own fears on that of what they do not really comprehend.

10. Being an "outcast" within the "normalcy bias" people that mostly promotes more "new normal" insanity!

11. Putting some effort to dig (much) deeper in any controversial topic at hand with ease! ... Having the skills to do so more effectively.

12. Willingness to learn something new! ... Which seems a super obvious, very healthy quality ... But sadly enough, so many "normals" do not ask real inquiring questions to learn something new, but rather want their preconceived ideas/"conclusions" to be reaffirmed! ... Thus, do not really listen nor want to understand/comprehend what you have to offer! <<< This psychological mechanism (behavior) is exactly what most Avalonians loathe!

13. Having access to a vast network of alternative media sources, knowing that none of them are flawless, but at least they are more free to ask & discuss the right (more intelligent) questions!

14. Being beyond mass censorship ... Knowing how corrupt "fact-checkers sites" operate.

15. Being aware that everybody can be a victim of a psy-op ... but that does not mean you are a "psy-op" >>> and accusatory claims of being "controlled opposition" has been shown dead wrong over and over and over again!

16. Knowing the history of (declassified) Government "False Flag Type Operations" and why they did it and still do to this day!

17. When you had personal "unexplained" strange experiences that changed/shaped your view of the world!... Questioning "reality" ... Even learn how to question literally everything, especially your own (deep-rooted) assumptions! ... This personal "quest for truth" allows you to be more often wiser and more alert of how Psychology of Totalitarianism really works ... Having an antidote (being immune) against Mass Formation Psychosis 24/7.

18. Knowing who the real pioneers in the past were who exposed so many things, that is happening right now (globally!).

19. Having a better understanding who you really are in context of all the mass deceptions that are going on almost all levels.

20. Having a sense of reaching out to like-minded (spiritual minded) people from all walks of life, sharing thoughts/ideas/tips how to deal with what is coming and what is happening right now!

21. Knowing the difference between healthy skepticism (as trust has to be earned not blindly given) vs pseudo skeptics

22. Never lose having a genuine "sense of wonder" like a child seeing things for the first time.

23. Knowing that the concept of a Prime Creator is, in my view, much bigger & beyond any man-made (and/or alien-made and/or a.i. made) religions to serve human/alien/a.i. based corrupted agendas with psychopathic control freaks at the top ... and any deity that "needs" to be worshiped is a big red flag to begin with!

• There is so much more I can write here, but I stop for now, ... maybe I will add some more by editing this reply/post later on! ... So: "to be continued" ...

cheers,
John Kuhles 🦜🦋🌳

somehow related forum threads:

• My Perspectives dealing with the use of the label 'Far Right' by Mainstream Media
• What are 'Truthers' in the Truth Movement Really?
• 15 Unavoidable Questions Haunting Me As A Classic Liberal Every Day!
• Is Alternative Media a form of Group Therapy?
• When Accusations like 'Controlled Opposition' loses its value!

[thepainterdoug]

I really dont care much about what was said here in this post other than, donate to the forum, which I will do again . Thanks for the reminder.

And let me remind you all , the choice was DJT or Biden and Harris, Biden and Harris Biden and Harris. !!! Let that ring along with the WEF global agenda , the WHO and all the other despicable players who were pulling the Biden Harris autopen strings

[onawah]

The problem with that imho is that far too many people were much too accommodating and accepting of being given only the choice of the lesser of two evils.

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
And let me remind you all , the choice was DJT or Biden and Harris, Biden and Harris Biden and Harris. !!! Let that ring along with the WEF global agenda , the WHO and all the other despicable players who were pulling the Biden Harris autopen strings

[thepainterdoug]

Onawah I get it, so what was actionable? Write in a candidate?

I dont agree with the assessment people are making regarding Trump. Let me ask you?

WHO WAS GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO ALLOW BIDEN CRIMINAL GANG 15 MILLION ILLEGALS INTO THE COUNTRY? Who of "we the people "said, yeah Joe, go ahead and flood the country with illegals. WHO?

So now we sitback in reflection in the, well um ,that already happened, and this guy Trump is trying to persecute people By returning to the rule of law. What a joke

I dont mind what anyone thinks and what their opinion is if they can live it. And all the fake liberal democrats didnt want any of them near them. All phonies.

[norman]

Regarding the OP, part 2 . . . .

Don't call them Zionists. That name is just a heat decoy name for Satanists.

If you simply call them Satanists, you'll know better and more clearly which team to get yourself on, instead of clamouring to be the most politically correct lost soul.

[onawah]

I was all for closing the borders, but that is only one issue. What C.A. Fitts and Whitney Webb have been disclosing about Trump/CBDC is very disquieting.

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Onawah I get it, so what was actionable? Write in a candidate?

I dont agree with the assessment people are making regarding Trump. Let me ask you?

WHO WAS GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT TO ALLOW BIDEN CRIMINAL GANG 15 MILLION ILLEGALS INTO THE COUNTRY? Who of "we the people "said, yeah Joe, go ahead and flood the country with illegals. WHO?

So now we sitback in reflection in the, well um ,that already happened, and this guy Trump is trying to persecute people By returning to the rule of law. What a joke

I dont mind what anyone thinks and what their opinion is if they can live it. And all the fake liberal democrats didnt want any of them near them. All phonies.

[edina]

onawah, I agree, it's very much like we dodge one bullet but have several more headed straight at us.

There's a LOT of moving parts to stay aware of and alert to, while also still trying to simply live life and be better humans.

[Bright Skies]

Thank you for your posts Dennis.

Although some members did not appreciate your posts and lambasted you, there are some that understand you.

Even though I have always read much more than I post, I also miss the original vibe of the Project Avalon forum and I hope it returns one day.

The original Project Avalon forum was first established in 2008. It was then moved to the current forum in 2010.

(I think I have those years correct.)

In that time, especially in the last decade, I have observed that segments of the alternative field have drastically changed and the knock-on effects and influences are apparent here too.

David Icke describes this change as the following:

"A lot of people have come into the alternative arena from the mainstream and they've basically regressed it, and some who were here before, into left-right politics."

And in my opinion what this "regression" has done is create a paradigm of control where politicians and world leaders are again divided into 'good guys' and 'bad guys' (to use your terms). In some cases personalities within the alternative field have become subservient devotees to the apparent 'good guys' and they dare not question their actions.

This was unheard of a decade ago in the alternative field.

Can they be so sure that the apparent 'good guys' are not deceivers and are not working on behalf of the same old forces as before?

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 1:9

I wish all of you the very best on your journeys.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bright Skies (here)
Thank you for your posts Dennis.

Although some members did not appreciate your posts and lambasted you, there are some that understand you.

Even though I have always read much more than I post, I also miss the original vibe of the Project Avalon forum and I hope it returns one day.

The original Project Avalon forum was first established in 2008. It was then moved to the current forum in 2010.

(I think I have those years correct.)

In that time, especially in the last decade, I have observed that segments of the alternative field have drastically changed and the knock-on effects and influences are apparent here too.

David Icke describes this change as the following:

"A lot of people have come into the alternative arena from the mainstream and they've basically regressed it, and some who were here before, into left-right politics."

And in my opinion what this "regression" has done is create a paradigm of control where politicians and world leaders are again divided into 'good guys' and 'bad guys' (to use your terms). In some cases personalities within the alternative field have become subservient devotees to the apparent 'good guys' and they dare not question their actions.

This was unheard of a decade ago in the alternative field.

Can they be so sure that the apparent 'good guys' are not deceivers and are not working on behalf of the same old forces as before?

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

Ecclesiastes 1:9

I wish all of you the very best on your journeys.

~~~

Dear Bright Skies (and everyone else! ), as I've mentioned quite a few times, we have over 100,000 threads on (literally!) every topic under the sun and beyond.

There are literally thousands of threads on the forum about beauty, philosophy, spirituality, nature, creativity, profound personal experiences, health and wellness, ancient history, non-human intelligence, and every aspect of the human condition.

And that's just a very partial list. I contribute to them all, and bump them whenever it seems relevant. Every other active member can add value and interest to all those topics any time they want to.

Always remember, as in any community: This forum is what we all make it.

For me, and I think for many others, all the above together make up the very healthy and strong beating heart of the community. (And to add one more time, if I may: the vast majority of the members, if not every single one of them, are deeply anti-Zionism.)

US Politics is just one of many topics that some (though not all!) people feel they care about. But as more of a view from orbit, I'd like to remind my friends here of two threads which I do feel are a useful reminder to us all:

• Shiny Object Syndrome
• Watching the Reality Show

In life, what comes to us is so often what we have our attention on — whether that's positive or negative.

I'm sure we have threads about that too!

[Raskolnikov]

I've watched this forum since it's inception as I voraciously devoured all interviews from Project Camelot back in my early waking days. It was invigorating finding others who were waking up back then and determined to get to the truth, no matter the cost. Truth above all else. The bad guys vs. the good guys rings a little simplistic for me, and now suspect it's more the "I was just doing my job" minions, and a healthy dose of the blackmailed and controlled in positions that could make a difference but don't.

The left/right division has been excellently crafted and wreaks havoc even here on this forum. I'm sure some of you will remember Pris' take on the Trump issue, a force to be reckoned with for sure, a real tiger for Trump, but I never let that get in the way of our unique friendship. She thought I was a liberal because I wasn't for Trump (and I am, in the classical sense, "liber" translating to "free" as in liberty and liberation.) And if you read the classical philosophers as well as the founding fathers of America, they all understood that the state was always hell bent on tyranny and that restricting it to the simplest tasks of protecting our freedoms was priority number one, that any power gained was never relinquished, that any freedoms lost were never regained. Distrust of those in positions of power was the norm and still should be. I will trust a President when he's not the president of a corporation but a true representative of the people again (even then I probably won't trust them as power has a way of corrupting in this life.)

I know many of you have a long and sometimes sordid history considering the importance of so many of the topics discussed here. It's been a pleasure reading many of your posts over the years and thank you for your research in the pursuit of truth. Just my two cents, stay focused on the truth no matter what and don't fall for the division they expertly create in the field of politics to keep us fighting each other and not the "bad guys." Yes, I think there are bad guys, but we all have it in us...