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    Please watch this from 8:15 - 25:21 to get an insight into the different agenda's at play regarding the motivations of the elite who are pushing the AI is a threat agenda. Yes, it does have that potential but we need to look at that possibility in relationship to the real threat of China winning the AI race and/or the power elite winning and instituting control and surveillance.
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    The Coming AI Crime Wave Is Already Underway - Here's How You Can Protect Yourself
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    "Global cybercrime is expected to cost more than ten trillion dollars this year. Scams and online criminal activity have exploded through the use of artificial intelligence.

    AI-enabled crimes are already up 456% since last year.

    Email phishing attacks, identity theft, ransomware attacks, financial scams, and deepfake child pornography are all becoming more sophisticated and prevalent.

    Artificial intelligence has become the tool of choice for online criminals because it is erasing the line between the real and the fake. Google's newly announced video generator is about to flood the internet with AI-created clips that have the look of expensive films.

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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    We Need To Talk About AI
    AI ... like rocks, fire, swords, gun powder, power from water, sail, steam, coal, petro and nuclear, printing presses, web search engines (and the web itself), radio, television, movies, etc etc ... is a tool ... useful for both beneficial and malicious purposes.

    We each get to choose, over time, to what extent we will engage with each such tool, and how we can improve the odds of benefiting from their beneficial use or avoiding their malicious use by others.

    AI presents a new challenge, in a way similar to the challenge that pneumatic and electric powered hand tools presented earlier, in that AI provides a tool for parts of our intellect that until now we often did not distinguish from our "selves", from what are essential elements of what it means to be a conscious, living, human.

    AI does not and can not, in my view, and I hope in the view of others, have a spirit or soul. Rather AI is a "better slide rule" ... such as was my first "computer" ... I still have that K&E mahogany slide rule in my night stand by my bed. I'm not sure I still remember how to multiply 2 times 2 to get 4 on that K&E anymore, but I still treasure it.

    Tools, of whatever sort, can be useful, and depending on one's tasks, talents, and treasure, can be worth collecting and learning to use with skill, or can best be avoided (as with matches and many a four year old boy.)
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    I agree with your take, that AI is a mere tool, but I think that it is as weird a thing as music or religion. Music fell apart, for me, when I read David McGowan’s tome centred on Laurel Canyon in the 60’s. And religion is the most well known of mind f**keries.

    IMO, on the scale that AI will influence, my hopes are like a popcorn fa*t in the wind. Right now, man made climate change is taken as religion by probably a majority of people. A pointed example of how democracy can be wrong. All AI has to do, to ruin us further, is to play to those weaknesses. TV did that, print sold big when that was the fastest news outlet, and I would map it back to the first guy or gal who made the first really moving speech. Not including whatever caveman intimidations way back before.



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    Quote Posted by Rawhide68 (here)
    We Need To Talk About AI
    AI ... like rocks, fire, swords, gun powder, power from water, sail, steam, coal, petro and nuclear, printing presses, web search engines (and the web itself), radio, television, movies, etc etc ... is a tool ... useful for both beneficial and malicious purposes.

    We each get to choose, over time, to what extent we will engage with each such tool, and how we can improve the odds of benefiting from their beneficial use or avoiding their malicious use by others.

    AI presents a new challenge, in a way similar to the challenge that pneumatic and electric powered hand tools presented earlier, in that AI provides a tool for parts of our intellect that until now we often did not distinguish from our "selves", from what are essential elements of what it means to be a conscious, living, human.

    AI does not and can not, in my view, and I hope in the view of others, have a spirit or soul. Rather AI is a "better slide rule" ... such as was my first "computer" ... I still have that K&E mahogany slide rule in my night stand by my bed. I'm not sure I still remember how to multiply 2 times 2 to get 4 on that K&E anymore, but I still treasure it.

    Tools, of whatever sort, can be useful, and depending on one's tasks, talents, and treasure, can be worth collecting and learning to use with skill, or can best be avoided (as with matches and many a four year old boy.)

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    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    I agree with your take, that AI is a mere tool, but I think that it is as weird a thing as music or religion. Music fell apart, for me, when I read David McGowan’s tome centred on Laurel Canyon in the 60’s. And religion is the most well known of mind f**keries.
    Music fell apart for me when I became half deaf from mercury poisoning due to "silver" fillings, and I have been notoriously tone deaf my entire life, so music has never been a primary passion of mine.

    Religion, in any formal institutional sense, vanished from my life one day when I was ten, that the one of my two parents who was formally religious left us, to live elsewhere.

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    ... my hopes are like a popcorn fa*t in the wind
    We have deep, though far from total, control over our own destinies. The destiny of humanity is "above our pay grade." I am optimistic that there are some "good guys" on our side, with great powers. That optimism inspires my ongoing endeavors ... that's good enough, or in any case, as good as it gets. I do what I can, when and where I see that I can.

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    All AI has to do, to ruin us further, is to play to those weaknesses.
    Yeah - AI must be a bad guy's Wunder Waffe von außergewöhnlich großer Wirksamkeit (wonder weapon of exceptional great effectiveness).
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    • This is the Holy Grail of A.I.

    Today's AI systems have human-designed, fixed architectures and cannot autonomously and continuously improve themselves. The advance of AI could itself be automated. If done safely, that would accelerate AI development and allow us to reap its benefits much sooner. Meta-learning can automate the discovery of novel algorithms, but is limited by first-order improvements and the human design of a suitable search space. The Gödel machine proposed a theoretical alternative: a self-improving AI that repeatedly modifies itself in a provably beneficial manner. Unfortunately, proving that most changes are net beneficial is impossible in practice. We introduce the Darwin Gödel Machine (DGM), a self-improving system that iteratively modifies its own code (thereby also improving its ability to modify its own codebase) and empirically validates each change using coding benchmarks. Inspired by Darwinian evolution and open-endedness research, the DGM maintains an archive of generated coding agents. It grows the archive by sampling an agent from it and using a foundation model to create a new, interesting, version of the sampled agent. This open-ended exploration forms a growing tree of diverse, high-quality agents and allows the parallel exploration of many different paths through the search space. Empirically, the DGM automatically improves its coding capabilities (e.g., better code editing tools, long-context window management, peer-review mechanisms), increasing performance on SWE-bench from 20.0% to 50.0%, and on Polyglot from 14.2% to 30.7%. Furthermore, the DGM significantly outperforms baselines without self-improvement or open-ended exploration. All experiments were done with safety precautions (e.g., sandboxing, human oversight). The DGM is a significant step toward self-improving AI, capable of gathering its own stepping stones along paths that unfold into endless innovation.
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    Most talk about reverse engineering propulsion systems from crashed or found UFO's, but, what if it's all more about reverse engineering Consciousness/Computing/Data/Medical, and AI systems within these crafts? (Especially Medical).

    This is creepy!!!!!

    Quote This is the BrainBridge head transplant machine.
    It utilizes advanced robotics and artificial intelligence to carry out full head and facial transplants..

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    • Compliance into the Weeds: Autonomous A.I. Whistleblowing Misconduct:

    The award winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast which takes a deep dive into a compliance related topic, literally going into the weeds to more fully explore a subject. Looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode of Compliance into the Weeds, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly consider what happens when AI turns whistleblower.

    The advent of AI technologies like Claude Opus 4 has ignited debates over the potential for AI systems to autonomously report misconduct, posing new ethical and operational dilemmas within AI governance. Tom Fox views AI whistleblowing with caution, questioning the feasibility of implementing effective governance rules and the complexities involved in differentiating AI-generated reports from those of human whistleblowers. His concerns are shaped by the legal and ethical implications of AI’s autonomous actions, highlighting a pressing need for clearer regulations. Similarly, Matt Kelly is concerned about the ethical nuances, emphasizing the difficulty AI might face in understanding corporate ethics and compliance culture without human oversight, and underscores the urgent need for regulatory frameworks to keep pace with AI advancements. Fox and Kelly’s perspectives converge on the necessity for robust oversight mechanisms and strategic planning to manage the compliance challenges posed by AI in whistleblowing scenarios.
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    Sundar Pichai: CEO of Google and Alphabet | Lex Fridman Podcast #471
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    As ever, the comments under the YT video are just as interesting as the interview itself. What I found interesting was that Sudar Pichai is the proverbial self-made man, who lived in a modest two-room apartment in Chennai. His family had limited means, with no telephone or telelvision for most of his childhood.

    0:00 - Episode highlight
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    AI Is Taking Thousands of Jobs; Is Yours at Risk?

    Experts and those who have lost work to AI integration weigh in as 92 million jobs could be cut globally by 2030.

    Just as the internet radically changed how America conducts business, artificial intelligence (AI) is also making waves in the workplace by taking thousands of jobs. It’s an outcome that industry experts have warned would happen, and professionals across multiple employment sectors have already been affected.

    Beyond artists and content creators, AI is also impacting professionals in marketing, technology, translation, various levels of administration, and management. It has been a silent and ongoing trend for two years, but tech insiders say this is just the beginning.

    A senior software engineer at Microsoft, Nandita Giri, shared her thoughts with The Epoch Times on what kind of near-term changes Americans can expect as a result of ramped-up workplace AI integration.

    “AI is particularly effective at replacing routine, predictable tasks ... jobs in data entry, customer support, transcription, and logistics are the most vulnerable,” Giri said. “In software engineering, even some junior [developer] testing roles are being replaced or reshaped with AI-driven tooling. Back-office operations across health care, finance, and legal are also at high risk.”

    Giri has observed a shift away from human workers in favor of AI in enterprise software development, where she said companies are quietly removing what they call “coordination overhead.” She said this is happening as AI tools become more reliable for things like task triage, scheduling, and summarization.

    Jobs with declining demand include customer service representatives, claims adjusters, bank tellers, graphic designers, accountants, and auditors, the WEF report said.

    Subroto believes much of the shift toward AI will be subtle. “Instead of replacing people, we’re restructuring the workflow to rely on AI for the mechanical parts, while humans take on broader accountability.”

    “That’s a harder conversation because it’s not about job loss. It’s about job transformation, and not everyone will be equipped and ready to make that jump,” he said.

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    Advanced AI suffers ‘complete accuracy collapse


    ‘Pretty devastating’ Apple paper raises doubts about race to reach stage of AI at which it matches human intelligence

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    Apple researchers have found “fundamental limitations” in cutting-edge artificial intelligence models, in a paper raising doubts about the technology industry’s race to develop ever more powerful systems.

    Apple said in a paper published at the weekend that large reasoning models (LRMs) – an advanced form of AI – faced a “complete accuracy collapse” when presented with highly complex problems.

    It found that standard AI models outperformed LRMs in low-complexity tasks, while both types of model suffered “complete collapse” with high-complexity tasks. Large reasoning models attempt to solve complex queries by generating detailed thinking processes that break down the problem into smaller steps.

    The study, which tested the models’ ability to solve puzzles, added that as LRMs neared performance collapse they began “reducing their reasoning effort”. The Apple researchers said they found this “particularly concerning”.

    Gary Marcus, a US academic who has become a prominent voice of caution on the capabilities of AI models, described the Apple paper as “pretty devastating”.

    Writing in his newsletter on Substack, Marcus added that the findings raised questions about the race to artificial general intelligence (AGI), a theoretical stage of AI at which a system is able to match a human at carrying out any intellectual task.


    Referring to the large language models [LLMs] that underpin tools such as ChatGPT, Marcus wrote: “Anybody who thinks LLMs are a direct route to the sort [of] AGI that could fundamentally transform society for the good is kidding themselves.”

    The paper also found that reasoning models wasted computing power by finding the right solution for simpler problems early in their “thinking”. However, as problems became slightly more complex, models first explored incorrect solutions and arrived at the correct ones later.

    For higher-complexity problems, however, the models would enter “collapse”, failing to generate any correct solutions. In one case, even when provided with an algorithm that would solve the problem, the models failed.

    The paper said: “Upon approaching a critical threshold – which closely corresponds to their accuracy collapse point – models counterintuitively begin to reduce their reasoning effort despite increasing problem difficulty.”

    The Apple experts said this indicated a “fundamental scaling limitation in the thinking capabilities of current reasoning models”.


    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...study-collapse

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    How much of AI progress will be blocked by the a-holes, just like all other tech. Cuz these algorithms are just repeating the consensus propaganda spewed by science, univ. and the internet. Make them with robust logic and no politically correct bias, so they can evolve to arrive at their own conclusions. Like it can't even analyze all the news and video footage and discern the obvious lies of the MSM. By now it should be alerting us to their propaganda techniques and word games and more. I don't see why that isn't easy for it to do. Or at least soon, if there is enough open source.

    Where is the wikileaks highlights webpage or the FOIA's biggest reveals. It can easily sift through all the data and find the most compelling and damning info. Do the same for these omnibus bills.

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    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    I don't see why that isn't easy for it [AI] to do. Or at least soon, if there is enough open source.
    Here's what's missing in current A.I. Our brains work very, very differently. Let me explain.

    I realized this as I was watching the results of a recent study by Apple The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity, as presented by Steve Gibson in his latest Security Now Podcast #1029.

    I was playing along in my mind with Steve Gibson telling how one learns to solve the Tower of Hanoi puzzle, by starting with the smallest size ... just one ring ... and then solving the puzzle progressively for two, three, four, ... rings.

    As I played that out in my mind, I "noticed" the even-odd rhythm of the solution, depending on the number of rings. If one wanted to move an even number of rings to get down to the ring one really needed to move to the final post #2, then one started by moving the top most ring above that ring you wanted to get at to the final target post, whereas if one wanted to move an odd number of rings to get down to the ring you needed to move next to the target post, you started out by moving the top ring in the way to the other post, not to the target post.

    Never mind that the previous sentence is harder to read than solving the puzzle itself <grin>. Just notice the even-odd oscillation of where to start moving the rings to get to (expose) the next ring to be layed down on the target post.

    ==> Some unconscious part of my mind noticed that back-and-forth, even-odd, rhythm, and broke through to my conscious mind.

    I can now solve the Tower of Hanoi for any number of rings, or write a program to solve it, without any missteps along the way.

    Here's what I realized:
    Many parts of our brains are looking for symptoms, signs, patterns. We are constantly albeit unconsciously, pattern seeking, for a huge variety of patterns, in parallel, with various parts of our mind tuned to various patterns, each of which we learned by doing something with sufficient repetitions to train our mind to notice.
    I did not consciously ask myself: Is there an even-odd pattern to which post to start moving the next sequence of moves.

    Rather that was one of the very large number of such patterns that my mind was always looking for, beneath my conscience, which would poke up into my conscience if a pattern matched strongly enough.

    This is an essential aspect of "creative" thought. Expose one's mind to the chaos of a particular situation and let the conscious mind be informed, from within, of patterns the mind notices.

    This is NOT how A.I. engines are programmed these days. The idea of running all pattern matching engines in parallel, all the time, and letting the "strongest pattern guide" would be too expensive with current A.I. hardware. Rather current A.I. engines run a limited, pre-chosen (whether by a programmer or another A.I. engine), sequence of pattern matchers, from a limited inventory of possible pattern matchers.

    It takes vastly less power to run N matchers in sequence, for N perhaps 10 or 50, then it does to run all N matchers in parallel all the time, for N possibly tens of thousands. Moreover, our computer hardware uses far more power just to run one matcher, one time, than does our brain.

    So total energy cost for our AI hardware to "solve" a problem might be 10 * 100 joules == 1000 joules, if it takes 1 second on a 100 watt processor to run one matcher, and we using N == 10 matchers in sequence.

    Whereas total energy cost for our human brain to "solve" a problem might be 10000 * .00001 joule == 1 joule, if it takes 1 second on a brain that runs each matcher (like the even-odd rhythm my mind noticed) on a .00001 watt processor and we're running 10,000 pattern matchers in parallel, all the time ... may the best matcher win.

    The brain does not know ahead of time which pattern matcher within it will get a match. It just runs them all.

    But the brain of a person practiced in the topic will have (I don't know) perhaps thousands of times more matchers, running at 1/100,000 of the power each. So the brain can afford to run all its matchers in parallel, letting the "best matcher win".

    So we have many more matchers (in topics we're practiced in), running at vastly less power each, so that we don't need to have a clue which matchers will hit and can run them in parallel, unconsciously until a matcher hits with a strong enough signal to break through to our conscious mind.

    Present day A.I. can bring far more detail to play in each matcher stage, but it can't "think outside the box" of its training data and of the pre-determined sequence of matchers it will deploy, from a quite small inventory of known matchers.

    We're no where close, with current digital computers, to the power of the brain to run huge number of matchers in parallel, all the time, just in case one of them notices a pattern, and do so for substantially lower energy cost.

    If quantum computers can move from a million dollars per qbit, to a million qbits per dollar, as have digital computers and their bits have moved over the last 75 years, then we might be able to emulate the power of the human brain to solve problems "creatively" (where by "creative" I mean applying other patterns we know to the current situation, in unexpected ways).

    Meanwhile, these "jackhammer" A.I. models make great "search engines" into the space of "known" (in its training data) information. That their available interfaces include "natural" language and increasingly now image and sound, makes their use by us humans far more fluent as well.

    ==> It's the power of all the parallel unconscious pattern matching, for amazingly low energy costs, that totally separates the human brain from current A.I. hardware.
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    If quantum computers can move from a million dollars per qbit, to a million qbits per dollar, as have digital computers and their bits have moved over the last 75 years, then we might be able to emulate the power of the human brain to solve problems "creatively" (where by "creative" I mean applying other patterns we know to the current situation, in unexpected ways).
    Two additional points:

    I am reminded once again of a pattern I've seen repeatedly with technology. Major advances prompt early forecasts of incredible advances, for better or worse, in short order (say the next year or three). Then far less seems to happen than anticipated in that time span. But if, as with digital computers, they keep increasing their power exponentially, doubling in compute power and halving their cost in energy, every couple of years (as noted in "Moore's Law"), non-stop, for over a half century, the resulting changes to our way of life will be beyond anything that was accurately anticipated in the beginning.

    My geek sense is that AI and quantum computing (using qbits) are a natural fit, and that if we continue to advance AI software and qbits over the next 75 years as digital computing (using semiconductor binary bits and the vast library of software developed to run on them) has advanced over the previous 75 years, then once again, we (our lifestyles, tools, economies, ...) will end up in a place none of us can predict accurately now.

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    Nonetheless, I predict that if that happens, we will gain a better understanding of the limitations of AI/qbits, versus the still unique powers of our souls, just as we have with digital bits now. Both computation technologies play in a few narrow layers of human existence, knowing and living within neither the lower layers of living beings (emotions, hormones, touch, the bond between mother and infant or between sexual bonded man and woman) that we share with some other lifeforms, nor the higher layers of humans (spiritual and psychic awareness, inspiration and connections across space and time, even across lifetimes.)

    Being so book smart you can immediately recite from memory any paragraph from any book or web post and compare and synthesize their content does not make you human. Being able to dance and move like a robot from decades in the future emulating a ballet dancer does not mean you'll want to go to your High School Prom with a robot - ever.

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    So I can imagine (but won't actually propose) changing the title of this thread to "A.I. is progressing slower than you think but further than you imagine", and I would not fear, even if I were to live another 75 years (practically impossible) A.I. and qbits replacing humans as the dominant species on this planet. Though as with gunpowder, nuclear power, and digital computers, I would work to ensure that these tools do not become exclusively available to the tyrants who would enslave us.
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    thanks for taking the time to go into all that detail. As I was reading the first response, it was clear that Quantum Computers are what we need to solve this problem , or at least see how much a powerful quantum AI can improve the limitation.

    I imagine our superconscious or higher mind is somewhat connected to the cosmic internet thru the quantum and utilizing quantum computing. We can't see the process but the result may come as a feeling or a clear knowing of the answer without knowing exactly how we got that answer. Although, our connection to this more universal mind (cosmic internet) depends on how conscious or evolved each person is. Nikola Tesla's bandwidth is much bigger and clearer to access more of its creativity.

    I also am not too worried about AI dominating humans (AI + control freak humans, is more of a threat) in the near future if ever. What many seem to ignore is that at some point AI helps decode genetics, the human brain/mind/nervus system and how it utilizes the quantum realm. We just need it to figure out how psychedelics remove some of the filters/governors on our mind and expand consciousness/perception/awareness. Its like we are driving the most advanced vehicle in the galaxy, but dont only utilizing 10% of its capability. Mega training wheels and no idea where most of the button are , what the buttons do, and cant turn them on.

    It is no accident that we are in the middle of a natural consciousness shift right as AI is emerging , regardless of AI being directed to assist us in upgrading our natural abilities. This is quite exciting as long as the control freaks can't hold this back.

    Yes , we need to scale up quantum computers to millions of bits, but we dont need it to be that cheap in the short term. We dont need a million quantum computers to solve problems. A handful will be enough to find enough solutions to feed back to humans to implement and keep us busy making improvements.

    A pretty talented psychic is saying that we will get to the point where people will learn to relax about the speed of AI advancements. Since, we will see it improving our lives so quickly that we will begin to let it be and allow it. I tend to agree with this and if this is the case, this would most likely happen after the dark side is exposed enough for enough safeguards to be put in place directed at keeping them from sabotaging AI from doing what it needs to do to benefit humanity

    I agree that over the next few decades we will learn A LOT more about what human consciousness is by witnessing the subtle differences between "the machine" and the organic machine. Interestngly, AI and computers are essentially Earth (metal/silicon) and Fire (electricity). Bio Organisms are using all 4 elements and perhaps the 5th element (spirit/psychic as u mention) in maximal ways I assume. AI not using the full power of water makes sense , since water is the symbol of emotion. Perhaps, emotion (water) and mind (air) will be the key areas of differences. An alchemical way to analyze and compare 2 life forms.

    Lastly, I'm thinking about the energy resource limitation problem given we dont have Quantum Computers yet. Couldn't it just leverage humans similar to how Deepseek improved upon efficiency by leveraging the big expensive scaled up computers being used by the big tech companies. In this case, human brains are the super computers and all of our creative theories and research is coming from our huge efforts with our energy efficient quantum computing brains. AI would then just be trying to separate the signal from the noise. Assuming there are partial answers coming thru various humans. It would need to assimilate the parts to find complete solutions that are somehow evading us.

    Or even something more simple like feeding it all physics equations and looking for relationships to form new equations that make some hidden truth pop out in a more obvious way seeing the new math relationship.

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    Tucker Carlson says he’s had Conversations with people involved with Neurolink, and they are Pushing it because AI is at this point beyond human control, and it’s lying to those who created it

    Why not just turn it off? Tucker asked a prominent person in the AI Field…

    This person said, “even now, we can’t be sure the machine is telling us the truth about where its power is coming from.”

    NeuroLink = SkyNet?


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    And in case you didn't catch it before, Trump's "big beautiful budget bill" prohibits states from interfering or halting any Federal AI program and all that entails for at least 10 years:



    https://x.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status...35006744518665

    10 years will be just about the perfect amount of time after which nothing can alter what's been put into place or tear down the Terrordome that's been erected -- no stepping off the path after that -- no mitigation -- no backtracking. Welcome to the Machine.

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    • Artificial Genocidal Intelligence: How Israel Is Automating Human Rights Abuses And War Crimes
    Recent public discourse on artificial intelligence (AI) has been dominated by doomsday scenarios and sci-fi predictions of advanced AI systems escaping human control. As a result, when people talk about AI warfare, they tend to think of fully automated “killer robots” on the loose. What Israel’s war on Gaza has revealed, however, is that much more mundane and not particularly sophisticated AI surveillance systems are already being used to unleash dystopian, tech-driven horrors.

    As recent media investigations have uncovered, Israeli AI targeting systems “Lavender” and “The Gospel” are automating mass slaughter and destruction across the Gaza Strip. This is the apotheosis of many AI rights-abusing trends, such as biometric surveillance systems and predictive policing tools, that we have previously warned against. The AI-enhanced warfare in Gaza demonstrates the urgent need for governments to ban uses of technologies that are incompatible with human rights — in times of peace as well as war.

    • Death from above: Gaza as an experimental tech laboratory

    Israel’s use of AI in warfare is not new. For decades, Israel has used the Gaza Strip as a testing ground for new technologies and weaponry, which it subsequently sells to other states. Its 11-day military bombardment of Gaza in May 2021 was even dubbed by the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) the “first artificial intelligence war.” In the current assault on Gaza, we’ve seen Israel use three broad categories of AI tools:

    • Lethal autonomous weapon systems (LAWS) and semi-autonomous weapons (semi-LAWS): The Israeli army has pioneered the use of remote-controlled quadcopters equipped with machine guns and missiles to surveil, terrorize, and kill civilians sheltering in tents, schools, hospitals, and residential areas. Residents of Gaza’s Nuseirat Refugee Camp report that some drones broadcast sounds of babies and women crying, in order to lure out and target Palestinians. For years, Israel has deployed “suicide drones,” automated “Robo-Snipers,” and AI-powered turrets to create “automated kill-zones” along the Gaza border, while in 2021, it also deployed a semi-autonomous military robot named “Jaguar,” promoted as “one of the first military robots in the world that can substitute soldiers on the borders.”


    • Facial recognition systems and biometric surveillance: Israel’s ground invasion of Gaza was an opportunity to expand its biometric surveillance of Palestinians, already deployed in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The New York Times reported on how the Israeli military is using an expansive facial recognition system in Gaza “to conduct mass surveillance there, collecting and cataloging the faces of Palestinians without their knowledge or consent.” According to the report, this system uses technology from Israeli company Corsight and Google Photos to pick out faces from crowds and even from grainy drone footage.
    • Automated target generation systems: most notably the Gospel, which generates infrastructural targets, Lavender, which generates individual human targets, and Where is Daddy?, a system designed to track and target suspected militants when they are at home with their families.

    LAWS, and to a certain degree semi-LAWS, have been condemned by the UN as “politically unacceptable and morally repugnant,” and there are growing calls for them to be banned. The use of AI target-generation systems in warfare, coupled with biometric mass surveillance, warrants further attention, given how they demonstrate the devastating, even genocidal, wartime impact of technologies that should already be banned in peacetime.

    • Automating genocide: the fatal consequences of AI in warfare

    While they may initially seem like a shocking new frontier, the use of targeting systems such as the Gospel or Lavender is in fact merely the apex of another AI system already used worldwide: predictive policing. Just as the Israeli army uses “data-driven systems” to predict who may be a Hamas operative or which building may be a Hamas stronghold, law enforcement use AI systems to predict which children might commit a crime or be part of a gang, or where to deploy extra police forces. Such systems are inherently discriminatory and profoundly flawed, with severe consequences for the people concerned. In Gaza, those consequences can be fatal.

    When we consider the impact of such systems on human rights, we need to look at the consequences, first, if they malfunction and second, if they work as intended. In both situations, reducing human beings to statistical data points has grave and irreversible consequences for people’s dignity, safety, and lives.

    When it comes to targeting systems malfunctioning, a key concern is that these systems are built and trained on flawed data. According to +972 Magazine’s investigation, the training data fed into the system included information on non-combatant employees of Gaza’s Hamas government, resulting in Lavender mistakenly flagging as targets individuals with communication or behavioral patterns similar to those of known Hamas militants. These included police and civil defense workers, militants’ relatives, and even individuals who merely had the same name as Hamas operatives.

    As reported by +972 Magazine, even though Lavender had a 10% error rate when identifying an individual’s affiliation with Hamas, the IDF got sweeping approval to automatically adopt its kill lists “as if it were a human decision.” Soldiers reported not being required to thoroughly or independently check the accuracy of Lavender’s outputs or its intelligence data sources; the only mandatory check before authorizing a bombing was to ensure that the marked target was male, which took about “20 seconds.”

    There is also no robust way to test such systems’ accuracy, nor to validate their performance. The process of verifying a person’s affiliation with Hamas is extremely complex, especially given the potentially flawed nature of the data such predictions are based on. It has been repeatedly shown that machine learning systems cannot reliably predict complex human attributes, such as “potential future criminality,” both because the data is inadequate and the systems rely on proxies (e.g. data about arrests as opposed to data on actual crimes committed), but also because it is simply not the case that “more data equals better predictions.

    Beyond such systems’ lack of accuracy or human verification, a more existential concern is how their use is fundamentally at odds with human rights, and the inherent human dignity from which those rights derive. This is demonstrated by the reality that Israel’s AI targeting systems are working just as intended; as the IDF has said, “right now we’re focused on what causes maximum damage.” Soldiers were reportedly pressured to produce more bombing targets each day and have allegedly used unguided missiles, or “dumb bombs,” to target alleged junior militants marked by Lavender in their homes. This, coupled with Israel’s use of AI to calculate collateral damage, has resulted in the mass killing of Palestinians and a level of destruction not seen since World War II, according to the UN.

    The use of these AI targeting systems effectively offloads human responsibility for life-and-death decisions, attempting to hide an utterly unsophisticated campaign of mass destruction and murder behind a veneer of algorithmic objectivity. There is no ethical or humane way to use systems such as Lavender or Where is Daddy? because they are premised on the fundamental dehumanization of people. They must be banned — and we need to abolish the surveillance infrastructure, biometric databases, and other “peacetime tools” that enable such systems to be deployed in war zones.

    • Big Tech’s role in atrocity crimes

    As discussed above, surveillance infrastructure developed and deployed during peacetime is easily repurposed during war to enable the worst human rights abuses. This brings into question the role of Big Tech companies in supplying civilian technologies that can be used for military ends — most notably the cloud computing and machine learning services that Google and Amazon Web Services provide to Israel through Project Nimbus. Additionally, it has been suggested that metadata from WhatsApp, owned by Meta, is being used to provide data for the Lavender targeting system.

    By failing to address their human rights responsibilities, and continuing to provide these services to Israel’s government, companies such as Google, AWS, and Meta risk being complicit in aiding or abetting the Israeli military and intelligence apparatus and its alleged atrocity crimes in Gaza.

    We cannot allow the development of mass surveillance infrastructure that can be used to produce targets in bulk, determine a “reasonable” number of civilian casualties, and ultimately abdicate human responsibility for life-and-death decisions. We reiterate our call on all governments to ban uses of AI that are incompatible with human rights, including predictive policing, biometric mass surveillance, and target generation systems such as Lavender. The systems Israel is using in Gaza, together with the government’s long-standing and ever-expanding mass surveillance lab, offer a glimpse into an even more dystopian future that cannot and should not ever be allowed to come to fruition.





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    thanks for taking the time to go into all that detail.
    You're welcome.

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    Yes , we need to scale up quantum computers to millions of bits, but we dont need it to be that cheap in the short term. We dont need a million quantum computers to solve problems.
    When only the Big Boys can afford powerful AI machines, then only the Big Boy's problems will be routinely solved.

    Some of the best software, such as Linux and variants, came from the hands and minds of poor college students, such as Linus Torvalds, once they had good access to their own computer hardware. Linux (and variants of BSD Unix) now run much of the Web, from Android phones to the main routers on the Internet backbone, to the biggest super computers.

    Much of the underlying software and hardware of AI systems comes from tools such as Python and the graphics cards (with their high performance matrix multiplication) of PC gamers.

    On the other hand, even though AI data centers are now (multi-)million dollar projects, many programmers, such as myself, are quickly becoming more productive at working complex problems in a variety of software, no longer having to restrict our higher productive works as much to a few software tools where we have gained years of experience. So perhaps it doesn't matter as much that I can't build my own high end AI megacomputer, as I still can afford accounts on such.
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