Why Do The Woke Support Palestine?

[Mike]

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by Mike (here)

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
It seems to me tpb seized on the social justice angle of "woke," again, a perversion and diversion of "awake" (they're always inverting everything), in order to curb the tide of those awakening to the propaganda and lies they've been fed their whole lives. I love your rational analysis of the whole topic Mike, you make many excellent points. One thing that's occurred to me lately, especially in light of 161803398's line of questioning, is that when it comes to being "too sensible" for woke and attempting to get along with everyone, it's never been an option where the woke are concerned, especially here in America. You will recall the BLM/Antifa riots in the summer of 2020? I would go so far as to call those two groups the military arm of the "woke," the extremity of it's beliefs in action. I ask you this question: How do we get along with Antifa? And now we have black youth all over America attacking (and killing in many cases) white kids simply for being white. This is the social justice practiced by the "woke:" violent retaliation for the victimhood the tv spoon feeds them day in and day out. Again, how do you "get along" with these kids? And that's not even broaching the subject of military aged men infiltrating and being flown in by our corrupt officials, men raised in countries that these same treasonous officials bombed in the name of "democracy." You think these guys'll be "sensible" when you try to reason with them? Maybe we should invite them for coffee? And the coup d'etat, is this group who've been so hopelessly brainwashed actually another species altogether at this point? When I was growing up, every girl on the market was fair game. Not so anymore. I feel for everyone still single. And it's specifically the woke, as a whole, who've been the most jabbed, along with the elderly who still watch CNN. Last question: When you find out she's woke, i.e. boosted to the gills, do you sleep with her?

Thanks Raskolnikov. Lots of good stuff there.

It's funny because my introduction to "woke" came from my meeting a woman who was woke, but at the time I had no framework from which to understand her. I recall trying to explain all this to a friend, and he was just as perplexed as I was. "What do you mean she's calling speech "violence"? What do you mean she thinks men can have periods?"

At the time I viewed her as an outlier; I had no idea about this mass cultural movement called "woke" until a few years later.. and that's when I had my a-ha moment. She was hip to many of things we discuss here on the forum and in agreement with much of it.. sort of. I'd say she was "New Age", which to my distorted way of thinking at the time made her some kinda intriguing spiritual hipster. But there's actually alotta overlap between New Age and woke, so looking back it's not ironic at all. But at the time I was thinking, how can she be so right about x and so wrong about y? It gave me alotta headaches. This was all back in like 2017, so I wasn't thinking about sexually transmitted spike proteins or anything. But now? Boy that's a good question you've asked, and I can't honestly answer it.

Ha! So funny, yet at the same time not. I feel for ya brother. I'm sincerely relieved I don't have to juggle that hot potato. If it's any consolation, as your initial video has shown, the signs are becoming clearer as to who's woke and who's aware, and if you're anything like me, I would find it extremely difficult to hold a conversation with someone who just repeats media talking points, while on the otherhand, when I find myself having a conversation with someone who's aware, it becomes a truly enjoyable experience for both parties. I've heard it said that today "there are no more gurus," that it's all about using your own discernment, but they didn't say it would also be a game of Russian roulette and half the barrel is loaded. Not sure I'd make it with these rules today: take the wrong drug - dead; sleep with the wrong girl - dead; whatever happened to sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll?

Be careful out there.

Yep, I'm with ya on all that.

Since I've discovered this framework for understanding the world, it's made things much easier. Like SilentFeathers points out, it's really just a good old fashioned battle between good and evil. People no longer baffle me.. I only really need to know a few things about them to kind of fill in the blanks everywhere else. It sounds reductive maybe, but it's never let me down. No psychic powers needed.. just tell me if you think men can get pregnant and I'll know exactly who I'm talking to 99 times out of 100

You're so right man..it's become a real pleasure to connect with like minds like yourself, as I'm finally realizing how rare it can be. I never take it for granted anymore. It's a real blessing. I recall when I first started posting here, I really was convinced that the cavalry was out there somewhere just waiting to be summoned. And now I realize that we are the cavalry, that we are sort of a unique bunch, and I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't know that all along. I have a few people in my everyday life who are on the level too, and I now know what a blessing it is to have them around.

[Gemma13]

Great thread Mike. Appreciate the conversations and your sound awareness and reasoning backed by informed analysis.

I was gobsmacked a few years ago when I had my red pill moment on the unambiguous origins of new age spirituality: its taken years to process and untangle my shattered psyche. Watching it shed skin and morph again in real time is disturbing.

As Marx is one of the prominent Gods of the Woke movement, whether adherents are conscious or not, I thought this 8 min extract from "The Devil and Karl Marx" might play well here.

Historian Paul Kengor digs into the satanic ideations of Karl Marx.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_v1YZ3jE4zI

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Mike (here)
Yep, I'm with ya on all that.

Since I've discovered this framework for understanding the world, it's made things much easier. Like SilentFeathers points out, it's really just a good old fashioned battle between good and evil. People no longer baffle me.. I only really need to know a few things about them to kind of fill in the blanks everywhere else. It sounds reductive maybe, but it's never let me down. No psychic powers needed.. just tell me if you think men can get pregnant and I'll know exactly who I'm talking to 99 times out of 100

You're so right man..it's become a real pleasure to connect with like minds like yourself, as I'm finally realizing how rare it can be. I never take it for granted anymore. It's a real blessing. I recall when I first started posting here, I really was convinced that the cavalry was out there somewhere just waiting to be summoned. And now I realize that we are the cavalry, that we are sort of a unique bunch, and I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't know that all along. I have a few people in my everyday life who are on the level too, and I now know what a blessing it is to have them around.

Agreed.

Back to the topic. Considering all the big players involved, I can't help but keep coming back to Isr@$l, itself a Rothschild creation. Isn't the woke mob just another created and controlled version of Hamas here in the states. The similarities are striking, just a much larger scale here in America, but the purpose the same - justified homicide in Gaza. Yes, I could've used the "g" word but the message needs to be clear. The people are turning against them, at least the ones able to view the livetime footage and not the CNN clift notes, brought to you by Pfizer. I'm not pro Palestine or pro Isr@$l, I'm pro people with the same rights to life as all others. So this woke mob serves a two-fold purpose: justify Gaza by turning Isr@$l into the eternal victim and thereby also justify shutting down all dissent. In other words, as Voltaire would say, who are we not allowed to criticize? And Doge did nothing because they own our politicians.

And completely agree on the good vs evil battle. Not to get too woo-woo, but I think this battle is taking place inside us all, that it's been more about our reactions, the only thing we can control. Things are coming so hot and heavy these days, everything from LA and Maui, mandatory experimental shots with mass casualties (my step-sister in Portland just had three heart attacks), the suffering in Gaza, to being sprayed like cockroaches all day, that I find myself in a continual battle btw love and hate, anger and compassion, staying centered or losing my sh!t. We are the cavalry but I can't always find my horse, yet somehow I always manage to step in what he left behind...

[Mike]

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
Yep, I'm with ya on all that.

Since I've discovered this framework for understanding the world, it's made things much easier. Like SilentFeathers points out, it's really just a good old fashioned battle between good and evil. People no longer baffle me.. I only really need to know a few things about them to kind of fill in the blanks everywhere else. It sounds reductive maybe, but it's never let me down. No psychic powers needed.. just tell me if you think men can get pregnant and I'll know exactly who I'm talking to 99 times out of 100

You're so right man..it's become a real pleasure to connect with like minds like yourself, as I'm finally realizing how rare it can be. I never take it for granted anymore. It's a real blessing. I recall when I first started posting here, I really was convinced that the cavalry was out there somewhere just waiting to be summoned. And now I realize that we are the cavalry, that we are sort of a unique bunch, and I'm a little embarrassed that I didn't know that all along. I have a few people in my everyday life who are on the level too, and I now know what a blessing it is to have them around.

Agreed.

Back to the topic. Considering all the big players involved, I can't help but keep coming back to Isr@$l, itself a Rothschild creation. Isn't the woke mob just another created and controlled version of Hamas here in the states. The similarities are striking, just a much larger scale here in America, but the purpose the same - justified homicide in Gaza. Yes, I could've used the "g" word but the message needs to be clear. The people are turning against them, at least the ones able to view the livetime footage and not the CNN clift notes, brought to you by Pfizer. I'm not pro Palestine or pro Isr@$l, I'm pro people with the same rights to life as all others. So this woke mob serves a two-fold purpose: justify Gaza by turning Isr@$l into the eternal victim and thereby also justify shutting down all dissent. In other words, as Voltaire would say, who are we not allowed to criticize? And Doge did nothing because they own our politicians.

And completely agree on the good vs evil battle. Not to get too woo-woo, but I think this battle is taking place inside us all, that it's been more about our reactions, the only thing we can control. Things are coming so hot and heavy these days, everything from LA and Maui, mandatory experimental shots with mass casualties (my sister-in-law in Portland just had three heart attacks), the suffering in Gaza, to being sprayed like cockroaches all day, that I find myself in a continual battle btw love and hate, anger and compassion, staying centered or losing my sh!t. We are the cavalry but I can't always find my horse, yet somehow I always manage to step in what he left behind...

Well said.

I really hope Gemma starts that thread at some point, because I think it would be a doozy. What hamas and the woke clearly have in common is their seething hatred of the west.

The common man has great difficulty understanding that blind hatred; I would have too had I not been exposed to the truth (accidentally I might add. I knew nothing of "woke" until I saw the doc on Brett Weinstein/Evergreen some 5 or 6 years ago). It's hard for us in the west to understand that some people just want chaos, and want nothing to do with shared prosperity, representative democracy, and the sanctity of individual rights and freedoms. We've been trying to push it on areas of the middle east for ages now, and they just reject it every time.

These people (woke,hamas) are blinded by hate, envy, bitterness, and resentfulness. But there are still people - agreeable, empathic people - who either cannot or will not acknowledge that. They want so badly to believe that the woke are really fighting for justice and equality, or that hamas are justified in some way for their reign of terror. It's hard for rational, empathic people to accept that some people are just not only irrational, but actually embrace their irrationality. This is a holy war for them, both hamas and the woke (woke is every bit a radical religion as Islam imo), and nothing about it is rational.

Remember the mantra repeated here in the states just after 9-11 ("They hate us because of our freedoms!"). No, they just hate us.. and rational westerners have to invent reasons to accommodate their rationality because this is a blind hate their minds simply cannot grok. (Note: I'm certain 9-11 was an inside job but the point still stands).

I tend to view this Gaza conflict within a larger context than most so the details don't interest me that much, regardless of who is at fault currently. Seems to me it's just a microcosm of a much larger battle between the barbarism of the east vs the civility of the west; it's good vs evil; it's individual rights and freedoms vs fundamentalist authoritarianism; it's native cultures vs invading Muslims. Our natural sense of propriety and fairness prevent us from fully acknowledging this, and evil will seek to exploit this at every turn. We won't realize how naive we've been till it's too late.

It's very uncomfortable to say or acknowledge, but some cultures are just better than other cultures, on almost every metric. If I have to pick a team in the current conflict, it won't be team Israel or team Palestine.. it's team western civilization, because that's what's at stake as far as I can tell. Israel, at least in the abstract, shares a love of western values, so setting aside whatever they are or aren't responsible for in the current conflict, I have a personal stake in their safety and prosperity in a way. I'm anti-Zionism but I'm pro Israel by default because I believe in western values and way of life. Both hamas and the woke are my natural enemies because of their hatred of the west.

[Raskolnikov]

Posted by Mike (here)
What hamas and the woke clearly have in common is their seething hatred of the west.

But let's go deeper. Hamas was created by Israel, while Israel was created by the Rothschilds (I believe this is common knowledge at this point so i shouldn't have to dig up the details), and I think we can safely say that clandestine uber rich and powerful families such as the Rothschilds have a firm grip on the media, the narrative they weave, and the agencies, and even entire governments, which enforce that narrative. Point being they created the "woke" narrative to serve their ends. But the ultimate point being they've all been created with ulterior motives. I honestly don't know the long and sordid history of these middle eastern countries, the origin of their endless wars, never had an interest, just like I had to put down the Bible so long ago after reading the Old Testament and it's glorious tales of a just God that continually ordered incest, murder, and sacrifice. A "jealous" God. Give me a break. So I don't know why the Rothschilds created Israel but they've been on the rampage ever since. I think we can safely say that Israel created Hamas to justify the hostile takeover of their land. October 7th nothing but a ff to justify their continued and relentless reign of terror. Infiltrate the Iron Dome with gliders. Come on. And the woke are the Frankenstein monster created through the relentless trauma and mind control inflicted by the ptb here in the states, most likely with a connection to these same Rothschilds of the Israel and Napoleon fame. I'm gonna keep this short because like I said I really don't pay much attention to the middle east because I know that's not my God. My God doesn't lust for blood.

So does the creation of these three groups by seemingly the same group(s) not give one pause to think that maybe, just maybe, there might be some ulterior motive to all of it?

I was in the same place about 9/11, we've overthrown so many countries that I was surprised it took that long for someone to retaliate. "Yer either with us, or yer with the terrorists." Not much has changed.

[Mike]

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
What hamas and the woke clearly have in common is their seething hatred of the west.

But let's go deeper. Hamas was created by Israel, while Israel was created by the Rothschilds (I believe this is common knowledge at this point so i shouldn't have to dig up the details), and I think we can safely say that clandestine uber rich and powerful families such as the Rothschilds have a firm grip on the media, the narrative they weave, and the agencies, and even entire governments, which enforce that narrative. Point being they created the "woke" narrative to serve their ends. But the ultimate point being they've all been created with ulterior motives. I honestly don't know the long and sordid history of these middle eastern countries, the origin of their endless wars, never had an interest, just like I had to put down the Bible so long ago after reading the Old Testament and it's glorious tales of a just God that continually ordered incest, murder, and sacrifice. A "jealous" God. Give me a break. So I don't know why the Rothschilds created Israel but they've been on the rampage ever since. I think we can safely say that Israel created Hamas to justify the hostile takeover of their land. October 7th nothing but a ff to justify their continued and relentless reign of terror. Infiltrate the Iron Dome with gliders. Come on. And the woke are the Frankenstein monster created through the relentless trauma and mind control inflicted by the ptb here in the states, most likely with a connection to these same Rothschilds of the Israel and Napoleon fame. I'm gonna keep this short because like I said I really don't pay much attention to the middle east because I know that's not my God. My God doesn't lust for blood.

So does the creation of these three groups by seemingly the same group(s) not give one pause to think that maybe, just maybe, there might be some ulterior motive to all of it?

I was in the same place about 9/11, we've overthrown so many countries that I was surprised it took that long for someone to retaliate. "Yer either with us, or yer with the terrorists." Not much has changed.

Dude I wrote you a windy reply and when I tried to post it the forum went offline and I lost it

That hasn't happened to me in a long while and I've forgotten how maddening it is.

Maybe it was for the best. I droned on and on.

I'll reply properly tomorrow. Just don't have it in me now. Too demoralized

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Mike (here)
It's hard for us in the west to understand that some people just want chaos, and want nothing to do with shared prosperity, representative democracy, and the sanctity of individual rights and freedoms. We've been trying to push it on areas of the middle east for ages now, and they just reject it every time.

Posted by Mike (here)
"They hate us because of our freedoms!"). No, they just hate us..

I believe they were made to. But it wasn't always that way...

Over the years, revolution and war bludgeoned them into submission. Radicalisation has also played a massive role in gaslighting them to hate the West -- not to mention western bombs falling on their heads left, right and centre. By radicalisation, I mean Islamification. These countries didn't use to have Islam -- at least Islam as it is today. I believe, or so I've read, that Saudi Arabia, or factions within it, are the ones responsible for that. They're the ones publishing and distributing 'latter-day' versions of the Koran, a Koran back-engineered to more closely reflect the medieval version of the text. The flavour of that version is conquest, submission, severity, ascesis, and a whole bunch of other un-western ideals. In fact, completely anti-western ideals.

Over the centuries, Islam naturally mellowed out, aligning itself more closely with modern western values. For one, in their treatment of women. But someone or something reversed all that, and it happened in the last fifty years. And I don't think it's all their doing. Though coming out of Saudi Arabia, it probably doesn't originate there. The mastermind is most likely the 'cabal', or elements therein. Think the CIA, who since its formation, has been in the business of stoking war, creating enemies, and inciting revolution and chaos.

Once, the folks in these countries were modern, progressive, democratic. They had the freedoms of the West, and embraced them.

But it was all taken from them.

Muslim women in Iran, mid-seventies. Compare with the hijab/burka wearing women of today.


Iranian teens socialising, mid-seventies.


Tehran in the seventies, when it looked like Europe.

[Raskolnikov]

Just wanted to touch again on the good vs evil aspect. Anyone else think it might be a completely different place if we simply had our true history records? Hell, even the Bible is a compilation of gospels chosen to further the agenda. The Gospel of Thomas refutes the lot of it and illustrates some of Jesus real teachings, that God is inside, hence, know thyself:

"One who knows everything else but who does not know himself knows nothing."

"The Kingdom is within you and it is outside of you. When you understand yourselves you will be understood. And you will realize that you are Sons of the Living Father. If you do not know yourselves, then you exist in poverty and you are that poverty."

"When you give rise to that which is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not give rise to it, what you do not have will destroy you."

And Enoch. So ulterior motives for even the canonized books of the Bible. So why were they chosen?

I don't mean to get religious here, that's not my point. I don't believe in religion and tend to side with Joseph Campbell when he refers to the golden thread woven throughout all religious books, the golden thread of truth which they all allude to and have pieces of but no one religion has a monopoly on (I hate ending in prepositions.) The point I'm driving at is the narrative. It's all done for a narrative, one that isn't true, and one that reeks of inversion with nefarious intent. The victors of war write the books, they choose the books, they cook the books, and then they book you and send you to prison for disagreeing with those books. War seems to be a big part of what remains of our written records going back to Homer and Troy. But I think I'm rambling at this point. I had a point but now it's gone. Hmmmm. I've had that happen too, Mike, where all your hard work disappears in an instant. Truly maddening. And now my soon to be obsolete Windows 10 computer system is plotting against me and continually failing as well! Damn you Bill Gates!!!

[Raskolnikov]

Think my point was stories of war fill our history books and now we find almost all of them were started by false flags, you could argue all the way back to the Trojan Horse. Another forced narrative similar to the woke narrative serving to divide and keep the two camps that could join forces and defeat the puppet masters from ever doing so. The woke is a perfectly crafted opposition to the mass awakening that's beginning to take place, a fabricated and false story and the logical extension of the Democratic Party beliefs. It's right up there with how they got the blacks to vote democrat when the democrats were the party of slavery. I believe it was Lyndon Johnson who said, "I'll have those ni&&ers voting Democrat for the nextg 200 years." Correlate that with those protesting for the environment and then driving electric cars or the "my body my choice" folks who scream at you for not taking the shot. It's a lifetime of programming and conditioning that some folks just can't break, and the girl in your initial video is the result.

Last quote from The Gospel of Thomas that I think most here have experienced to one degree or another:

"Whoever has known the world has found a corpse;
whoever has found that corpse, the world is not worthy of him."

[SilentFeathers]

Posted by Raskolnikov (here)
Think my point was stories of war fill our history books and now we find almost all of them were started by false flags, you could argue all the way back to the Trojan Horse. Another forced narrative similar to the woke narrative serving to divide and keep the two camps that could join forces and defeat the puppet masters from ever doing so. The woke is a perfectly crafted opposition to the mass awakening that's beginning to take place, a fabricated and false story and the logical extension of the Democratic Party beliefs. It's right up there with how they got the blacks to vote democrat when the democrats were the party of slavery. I believe it was Lyndon Johnson who said, "I'll have those ni&&ers voting Democrat for the nextg 200 years." Correlate that with those protesting for the environment and then driving electric cars or the "my body my choice" folks who scream at you for not taking the shot. It's a lifetime of programming and conditioning that some folks just can't break, and the girl in your initial video is the result.

Last quote from The Gospel of Thomas that I think most here have experienced to one degree or another:

"Whoever has known the world has found a corpse;
whoever has found that corpse, the world is not worthy of him."

Your post reminded me of a quote from Erich Fromm.....

…man differs from the animal by the fact that he is a killer; he the only primate that kills and tortures members of his own species without any reason, either biological or economic, and who feels satisfaction in doing so. It is this biologically non-adaptive and non-phylogenetically programmed "malignant" aggression that constitutes the real problem and the danger to man’s existence as a species...The most ample – and horrifying – documentation for seemingly spontaneous forms of destructiveness are on the record of civilized history. The history of war is a report of ruthless and indiscriminate killing and torture, whose victims were men, women, and children. Many of these occurrences give the impression of orgies of destruction, in which neither conventional nor genuinely moral factors had any inhibitory effect…There is hardly a destructive act human imagination could think of that has not been acted out again and again - Erich Fromm (Anatomy of Human Destructiveness)