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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Many thanks to both Meatsuit and Casey Claar for their posts.
    They both go back a lot farther than I did when it comes to Ben's earliest work, so I've very much appreciated them filling in here with some info about his earlier work and background.
    And thanks again to Meatsuit for taking up the gauntlet here on this thread to keep Avalon updated with Ben's daily videos.
    I am still very much behind Ben's information, it's just that I'm just getting old (76 years now) and not able to keep spending as much time on the forum as previously.
    And I'm also still happy to fill in when I find additional info that belongs here and to post in other threads about the solar cycles, where appropriate.
    I can't think of a subject that is more important now for the survival of the human race!
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Hi Natalie. I appreciate your vigilance to the current hazards to our civilization, from our Sun, that Ben Davidson has brought to the fore. And I appreciate your will to communicate about this issue.

    I agree with other comments here that mean, to say it delicately, Ben has done his best work. I think it’s OK to acknowledge his past contributions, while recognizing that he is now damaged-goods.


    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Many thanks to both Meatsuit and Casey Claar for their posts.
    They both go back a lot farther than I did when it comes to Ben's earliest work, so I've very much appreciated them filling in here with some info about his earlier work and background.
    And thanks again to Meatsuit for taking up the gauntlet here on this thread to keep Avalon updated with Ben's daily videos.
    I am still very much behind Ben's information, it's just that I'm just getting old (76 years now) and not able to keep spending as much time on the forum as previously.
    And I'm also still happy to fill in when I find additional info that belongs here and to post in other threads about the solar cycles, where appropriate.
    I can't think of a subject that is more important now for the survival of the human race!

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Quote Posted by Dumpster Diver (here)

    Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.
    I haven't been watching him for a long time so I'll comment on this based on the comments of others who have.

    It's my opinion, that stuff, including cross blazoning (I suspect the crucifix ritualising is part of the satanic flippover) is indicative that he has been targeted and possibly possessed.

    I don't know what to say otherwise, except that maybe those who want to, should pray for him.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    talk of the devil

    Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

    * I'm posting this without listening to it first.


    The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson
    1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


    Show notes
    Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Johnny, I think you and Mike are just jealous because Ben's so buff!
    I think his best is yet to come (if he's not "suicided").
    Hopefully he will be very careful as he is certainly aware of the danger.
    I pray for him.

    Quote Posted by Johnnycomelately (here)
    Hi Natalie. I appreciate your vigilance to the current hazards to our civilization, from our Sun, that Ben Davidson has brought to the fore. And I appreciate your will to communicate about this issue.
    I agree with other comments here that mean, to say it delicately, Ben has done his best work. I think it’s OK to acknowledge his past contributions, while recognizing that he is now damaged-goods.
    Getting out of a bad marriage can only be a good thing, and things in general are getting off to a great start now at Observer Ranch, which Ben and his team have worked so hard on.

    As far as the veracity of his info, it's getting a lot of attention now on the alternative media, and the mainstream is even beginning to leak reports now about what lies ahead, so the disbelievers will have to stop scoffing and pay more attention now, which will certainly provide some measure of gratification to Ben.

    He was recently a guest on Tim Pool's show (for the third time):
    https://rumble.com/v6ssv1p-tim-pool-...astrophic.html

    See the following recent reports from MSN.

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Massive Solar Flares Are Disrupting More Than Just Cell Phones
    Story by Lorand Pottino
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...&ei=54#image=7
    (Slide show at the link)


    (This is on the mainstream MSN website and it's far from the whole story, but it's some indication of how the truth has got to come out sooner or later, since it's becoming more and more evident how the solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal is beginning to manifest more obviously, and can't rationally be hidden any longer.)

    "Understanding Solar Flares: The Basics
    ©unsplash
    Solar flares are powerful eruptions of energy from the sun’s surface, often compared to the explosive force of millions of nuclear bombs going off at once. These bursts are caused by sudden changes in the sun’s magnetic field, which release energy in the form of radiation.

    NASA categorizes solar flares into A, B, C, M, and X classes, with X-class representing the most intense. Since the start of Solar Cycle 25 in December 2019, the sun’s activity has steadily increased, and experts predict the activity will reach its peak in 2025.

    Solar observatories have already recorded a surge in both the frequency and intensity of these flares throughout 2024. This uptick in solar activity means that disruptions are not just possible—they’re expected, and they are already being documented in real time.

    The escalation in solar flares is pushing scientists and governments to re-examine how vulnerable our modern technological society is to these cosmic events.

    Impact on Communication Systems
    ©wikimedia
    The effects of strong solar flares on communication networks have become impossible to ignore in 2024. On March 29, a potent X1.0-class solar flare caused widespread radio blackouts throughout the Pacific, temporarily cutting off aviation and maritime communications.

    The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) confirmed that high-frequency radio signals—used by pilots and ships—were severely hampered for several hours. These events aren’t just technical glitches; they can delay flights, disrupt logistics, and hinder rescue operations.

    In April 2024, emergency communication centers in Australia and New Zealand reported significant signal losses tied directly to ongoing solar activity. As the backbone of global connectivity, satellite and ground-based communication infrastructure face increasing pressure to adapt.

    The urgency to create more robust, solar-resilient systems is greater than ever, with industry leaders now accelerating investments in shielding and redundant pathways.

    Disruption of Power Grids
    ©pixabay
    Solar flares can trigger geomagnetic storms that send surges of electrical current through power lines, threatening the stability of entire national grids. In 1989, a solar-induced geomagnetic storm famously caused a nine-hour blackout in Quebec, affecting millions.

    Fast-forward to 2024, and the U.S. Department of Energy has issued multiple warnings about similar threats as solar activity intensifies.

    In March 2024, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) launched a comprehensive study of North American grid infrastructure, identifying areas most susceptible to solar-induced currents. Utilities in the Midwest and Northeast have since initiated upgrades, such as installing new surge protectors and real-time monitoring systems.

    The risk is not just theoretical: minor voltage fluctuations attributed to solar storms were recorded in Texas and Ontario during a flare event in April 2024. Experts warn that with Solar Cycle 25 peaking soon, utilities must act fast to avoid another large-scale blackout.

    Satellite Damage and Risks
    ©wikimedia
    Satellites orbiting Earth face direct exposure to the charged particles unleashed by solar flares, making them highly vulnerable. The European Space Agency (ESA) reported in January 2024 that elevated solar activity has already caused electronics malfunctions in several low-Earth orbit satellites.

    The Solar Orbiter, a joint mission by ESA and NASA, lost contact briefly during a flare in February 2024, highlighting the real-time risks. Weather and navigation satellites also experienced data interruptions, causing delays in forecasting and service provision.

    Satellite operators are now investing heavily in radiation-hardened components and developing new protocols for emergency shutdowns during severe solar activity. Companies like SpaceX and OneWeb, which operate large satellite constellations, have reported increased maintenance costs and unexpected outages.

    The growing reliance on satellite infrastructure for internet, navigation, and surveillance underscores the urgent need for better defenses against the sun’s unpredictable temper.

    Impact on Aviation
    ©unsplash
    Solar flares pose a distinct hazard to aviation, especially for high-altitude and polar flights. When solar activity spikes, radiation levels in the upper atmosphere can increase sharply, endangering both passengers and crew.

    In March 2024, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) advised airlines to reroute several transpolar flights after a series of solar flares raised radiation exposure risks. Airlines including Delta and Air Canada publicly confirmed changing flight paths, resulting in longer travel times and increased fuel costs.

    The International Air Transport Association (IATA) has since updated its guidelines, recommending real-time solar weather monitoring for all long-haul carriers. In one case, a commercial flight from Tokyo to New York was forced to divert to Anchorage, adding hours to the trip, after ground control detected elevated solar radiation levels.

    The stakes are high, as even a few additional microSieverts of radiation can pose long-term health risks to frequent flyers and flight crews.

    Health Risks from Increased Radiation
    ©wikimedia
    The surge in solar activity has put the spotlight on radiation exposure risks, particularly for astronauts and airline personnel. NASA’s February 2024 health assessment found that astronauts aboard the International Space Station (ISS) experienced radiation levels up to three times higher during strong solar flare events.

    This has prompted the agency to roll out new shielding measures and adjust mission schedules to avoid peak solar activity windows. Airline crews, especially those on transpolar routes, are now subject to stricter monitoring and reporting of cumulative radiation doses.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) has called for more comprehensive studies on the long-term effects of chronic low-dose cosmic radiation, given the uptick in solar flare activity. In May 2024, several European airlines began testing wearable radiation monitors for pilots and cabin crew to track real-time exposure.

    These measures reflect a growing awareness that solar flares are not just a technological nuisance—they also represent a genuine occupational health concern.

    Economic Implications of Solar Disruptions
    ©wikimedia
    The financial stakes of solar-induced disruptions are staggering. A March 2024 report by the National Academy of Sciences estimated that a severe solar storm could inflict up to $2 trillion in economic damages in the United States alone.

    The report breaks down costs across power grid failures, communication outages, disrupted transportation, and lost productivity in key industries. In April 2024, several financial institutions, including JPMorgan Chase and Citi, highlighted solar flare risks in their annual risk assessments, warning clients about potential market volatility tied to infrastructure outages.

    Insurance companies have also begun recalculating premiums for satellite and energy companies in light of new solar weather data. The ripple effects extend to smaller businesses as well, with disruptions to supply chains and e-commerce platforms reported during recent solar events.

    The message from economists is clear: ignoring solar threats could cost far more than investing in preventative technologies.

    Advances in Predictive Technology
    ©wikimedia
    Recent breakthroughs in solar flare prediction are offering a glimmer of hope against the rising tide of sun-induced disruptions. The Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO) and the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) provide continuous, real-time monitoring of solar activity, delivering vital data to researchers around the world.

    In 2024, scientists at the University of California, Berkeley, unveiled a new algorithm that predicts the likelihood of major solar flares with up to 80% accuracy, a significant jump from earlier models. This tool is now being integrated into NOAA’s early warning systems, allowing utility companies, airlines, and satellite operators to prepare for incoming solar events.

    NASA has also launched the SunRISE mission, a network of small satellites designed to detect early signs of solar outbursts, in March 2024. These technological advancements are shifting the balance from reactive crisis management to proactive risk mitigation, reducing the element of surprise that has historically accompanied solar storms.

    Preparing for Future Solar Events
    ©wikimedia
    With Solar Cycle 25 expected to reach its peak in 2025, organizations across the globe are ramping up preparations for more frequent and severe solar events. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) have joined forces to develop comprehensive response frameworks, which include public alerts, infrastructure hardening, and emergency drills.

    In May 2024, several major U.S. cities conducted solar storm preparedness exercises, testing coordination between utilities, emergency services, and communication providers.

    Businesses are revising their disaster recovery plans to account for solar-induced outages, while schools and public agencies are launching awareness campaigns about the risks. These coordinated efforts reflect a growing recognition that solar flares are not a distant, abstract problem—they are a present-day challenge requiring immediate action and ongoing vigilance.

    Effects on GPS Technology
    ©pixabay
    GPS is woven into the fabric of daily life, from navigation apps to precision agriculture, and solar flares have proven to be a direct threat to its reliability. In April 2024, the Journal of Geophysical Research published findings that solar flares caused GPS position errors as high as 10 meters during peak activity periods.

    These inaccuracies can create chaos for emergency responders, airlines, and self-driving vehicles that rely on pinpoint navigation. The U.S.

    Department of Defense, recognizing the strategic risk, has allocated additional funding for research aimed at reducing GPS vulnerabilities. During a flare event in May 2024, several commercial airlines in North America and Europe reported GPS signal losses, forcing pilots to switch to manual navigation methods.

    Companies in logistics and agriculture also noted disruptions, with crop-spraying drones and delivery fleets reporting major delays. The ongoing challenge is to develop GPS technology that can withstand or quickly recover from solar-induced errors."Economic Implications of Solar Disruptions
    ©wikimedia
    The financial stakes of solar-induced disruptions are staggering. A March 2024 report by the National Academy of Sciences estimated that a severe solar storm could inflict up to $2 trillion in economic damages in the United States alone.

    The report breaks down costs across power grid failures, communication outages, disrupted transportation, and lost productivity in key industries. In April 2024, several financial institutions, including JPMorgan Chase and Citi, highlighted solar flare risks in their annual risk assessments, warning clients about potential market volatility tied to infrastructure outages.

    Insurance companies have also begun recalculating premiums for satellite and energy companies in light of new solar weather data. The ripple effects extend to smaller businesses as well, with disruptions to supply chains and e-commerce platforms reported during recent solar events.

    The message from economists is clear: ignoring solar threats could cost far more than investing in preventative technologies. "
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    The Sun’s Magnetic Field Is Weakening—What Does This Mean for Earth?
    (More from MSN; though still a far cry from the whole story, accurate story, it's getting closer. )
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...&ei=36#details

    (Video at the link)

    "The Sun’s magnetic field plays a crucial role in protecting Earth from harmful cosmic radiation, but recent data suggests it may be weakening. What does this mean for our planet? Could it lead to more intense solar storms, power grid failures, or climate shifts? Scientists are closely monitoring this phenomenon to understand its potential impact on Earth and space weather. Watch now to find out if we should be concerned!"
    ********
    QUOTE=Bill Ryan;1670786]Copying this post by Helvetic on his thread:

    ~~~
    Paul Stonehill | The Disaster 14300 Years Ago... A Warning to Humanity? | June 2, 2025

    Source: Paul Stonehill youtube


    Description:

    The video discusses a groundbreaking 2023 study revealing a colossal geomagnetic storm from 12,350 BCE, caused by a solar coronal mass ejection over 500 times stronger than the 1859 Carrington Event.

    Led by Ilya Soskin’s team in Finland, the study used radiocarbon-14 spikes in tree rings and ice cores, analyzed via the SOAL-14CX model, to confirm the event’s scale. Occurring during the late Ice Age, this storm marks a new worst-case scenario for solar activity, highlighting risks to modern infrastructure like satellites and power grids.

    The event coincided with the Paleolithic-Mesolithic transition, a time of hunter-gatherer societies and early domestication. The findings extend our understanding of solar events beyond the last 12,000 years and emphasize the need to prepare for future space weather threats.

    [/QUOTE]

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    Ben was interviewed by Bret Weinstein in May 2024, who introduced him, in his opinion, as "the world's leading expert" on the changes coming caused by solar events, and included a lot of info, besides the interview itself, on that Rumble page at:
    https://rumble.com/v4vigf0-bret-wein...etic-pole.html


    Quote Bret Weinstein Interviews Ben Davidson: The Coming Apocalyptic Magnetic Pole Shift
    Sunfellow On COVID-19
    71.9K followers

    Evolutionary Biologist Bret Weinstein interviews Ben Davidson (SpaceWeatherNews, @SunWeatherMan on X) about repeating solar disturbances and their apocalyptic impact on Earth (and human civilization) as the Earth's magnetic field weakens and its poles shift.

    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Introductions
    (05:40) Current sun coronal mass ejections
    (14:10) Carrington event
    (18:00) Transformers
    (25:10) Nuclear power plants
    (29:30) Earth's magnetic field and pole shift
    (42:00) Why do planets' poles shift?
    (01:00:00) Super flare or Micro Nova
    (01:12:30) Species extinction
    (01:18:50) Carbon dating, isotope dating and errors
    (01:23:25) Shifting crust and changes in latitude
    (01:35:00) Crustal shift evidence summary and mega tsunamis
    (01:37:00) New pole positions
    (01:39:40) Current solar activity
    (01:42:30) Prepping for solar storm
    (01:53:40) Underground caves
    (01:56:00) Hopeful notes
    (02:00:00) Wrap up

    Original YouTube video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Gz7w3l_uE

    .................

    "The Earth is becoming more and more vulnerable to solar activity. I would never deny the significance of the ongoing economic issues, potential for World War 3, loss of freedom due to governments and the World Economic Forum pulling their Agenda 2030 nonsense, but folks, despite the evidence being right in our faces, the media is completely ignoring what is happening to the Earth. The magnetic pole shift and geomagnetic excursion are progressing and in the coming years we are going to lose all modern technology and the foundations of modern civilization. It doesn't get much worse than this, especially since other real global issues seem to be overshadowing it completely in the public forum."

    -- Ben Davidson, SpaceWeatherNews, @SunWeatherMan on X

    Source of Quote: More Bad News On The Pole Shift
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbJSR2Zt80s

    SpaceWeatherNews Website
    https://spaceweathernews.com/

    YouTube Channel
    https://www.youtube.com/@Suspicious0bservers

    Observer Ranch
    https://observerranch.com/

    .................

    References:

    The Convincing Cosmic Energy Gravitational Genesis Of The Strongest Geomagnetic Anomalies Of The Magnetic Field Of The Earth
    By Sergey V. Simonenko
    March 31, 2024
    https://ojs.ukscip.com/index.php/ptnd/article/view/221

    The Role Of Geomagnetic Field Intensity In Late Quaternary Evolution Of Humans And Large Mammals
    By J. E. T. Channell, L. Vigliotti
    May 29, 2019
    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley....9/2018RG000629

    ...............

    Magnetic Pole Shift videos on this Rumble channel:
    https://rumble.com/playlists/GbpFmMmx5ng

    @SunWeatherMan (Ben Davidson): The Coming Extinction-Level Magnetic Pole Shift
    https://rumble.com/v4urpw0-sunweathe...ole-shift.html

    Update: Current Solar Storm Almost Over, But Earth's Magnetic Shields Getting Dangerously Weak
    https://rumble.com/v4ur7s3-update-cu...-getting-.html

    May 11, 2024, Solar Storm Update: What Has Happened So Far, What Is Coming Next
    https://rumble.com/v4uissn-may-11-20...ming-next.html

    Highest Geomagnetic Storm Rating, Dozens Of Networks Down, Coronal Mass Ejection Number 7 On The Way
    https://rumble.com/v4ugh45-highest-g...ass-eject.html

    Four Solar Blasts Are On Their Way To Earth! (Space Weather News, 05/09/24)
    https://rumble.com/v4u963z-four-sola...ws-050924.html

    How The Sun Could Wipe Us Out
    A Burst Of Plasma Would Set In Motion A Devastating Cascade Of Failures
    By Bret Weinstein
    July 19, 2021

    https://unherd.com/2021/07/how-the-s...d-wipe-us-out/

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v4t1gpo/?pub=4
    Each breath a gift...
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    talk of the devil

    Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

    * I'm posting this without listening to it first.


    The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson
    1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


    Show notes
    Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.
    This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

    IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

    He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Bill, I thought you might like to weigh in on the thread here:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672192
    And please don't miss Casey's informative post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672235
    Yes. The new thread asked: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I'm going to quote Casey's post here, because I entirely agree.

    Quote Posted by Casey Claar (here)

    It is opportune to say something at this point.

    Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

    Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

    The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

    I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all

    Casey
    I'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

    I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

    While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    It feels like fear porn to me. Not that it is false or that fear is the intent behind it, necessarily, but it portends to calamitous endings,and I don't want to put my beliefs or intentions there. In four years perhaps we will know the truth of it, but in the meantime I have a different focus that does not include our planetary extinction. That isn't intended to be judgemental, but for me it's not where I want to put my energy.
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    It feels like fear porn to me. Not that it is false or that fear is the intent behind it, necessarily, but it portends to calamitous endings,and I don't want to put my beliefs or intentions there. In four years perhaps we will know the truth of it, but in the meantime I have a different focus that does not include our planetary extinction. That isn't intended to be judgemental, but for me it's not where I want to put my energy.
    Fear porn? That’s an interesting choice of words.

    Ben’s work has been very thorough and, in my view, seriously warrants close attention. Is he right? Probably, yes. A better question to ask is, is he accurate with the time-line? He’s quoted enough scientific papers to support his claim.

    Does that make it ‘fear porn’?

    Let’s not lose sight of the fact that advanced civilisations have existed on this planet long before our own, and that the premise that Ben suggests doesn’t necessarily involve a “planetary extinction”. It does suggest that our civilisation, just like others before our own, suffered an upheaval that wiped out millions, but that doesn’t mean we should reject the hypothesis outright.

    There are archaeological records of an advanced civilisation existing on Earth prior to approximately 10500 BC (assuming the carbon-dating is accurate). That’s approximately 12,000 years ago. Since then, humanity has survived, albeit from an apparent loss of knowledge, not the least in how to build monuments and buildings that rival the engineering capacity of our most modern engineers.

    Have you watched the documentary movie: “Revelation of the Pyramids”? It’s not available on YT, (I think) but if the mods agree, I can upload a copy into the Avalon Library. It raises some important insights about past civilisations that may be of interest here.

    I don’t know about anyone else, but when accurate solar knowledge, mathematics and a deep understanding of cyclical stellar alignments start showing up in ancient archeological sites all over the world, I sit up and take notice.

    Ben might come across as a cantankerous individual at times, but please do not fall into that timeless trap of “throwing the baby out with the bathwater”. I think Ben has a very good case to make.

    I propose that the overarching message in Ben’s posts are what we really need to be focusing on here. Not his character, nor his somewhat ‘salty’ disposition - these are all human character traits that exist within us all.

    On a more general note, I feel it is important that we pay attention to the premise embedded within many of Ben’s videos: there is a recurrent cycle that impacts this planet and all civilisations on it, we can pinpoint the cycle to approximately 13/26,000 years, and there is a weighty body of scientific and archeological evidence to support this premise. Given this, I feel that what Ben has to say is more than relevant, and it definitely isn’t “fear porn”. I, for one, am paying particular attention to his research.

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    Just a little backtracking--some errors here in the OP I would like to point out.
    I doubt very much that Ben takes steroids.
    As Bill has stated, he is no fool and very health conscious. I'm sure he knows how toxic steroids are, and pharmaceuticals in general.
    (I think he's on the wrong kind of diet though, being a big meat eater, which probably inflames his temper; hopefully he will get wise to that as well, before too long.)
    His intentional community is near to Observer Ranch, which is high in the Rockies in Penrose, Colorado, and should be safe.
    He posts all kinds of information about what is going on at Observer Ranch on more than one of the many online sites where he posts and he lists those sites regularly under his youtube videos, so that would logically be a topic he would prefer not to have to waste time on in the Q&A videos.
    I have never seen Ben in a "wife-beating" T shirt. I think you should back up a claim like that with evidence.
    I think we will be seeing much less "salt" from Ben upcoming, now that the divorce is settled.
    He looked drained during his last Q&A, but much more relaxed than I have ever seen him.
    But thanks for starting this thread--I think the outcome was pretty satisfactory.

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    I’ve been following Ben for 10+ years but lately he is:

    Angry all the time (his divorce and steroids may be behind this)
    - lashes out at posters for petty things
    - has little patience with questions about his “science” (“do the homework!”)
    - has fantasies about “teal pears”

    Pushes his money-maker “Observers Ranch” (OR) on every post (but will not take questions about it, typically)
    - my analysis shows the OR location is not as safe as Ben claims (better locations in the interior of Colorado)
    - seems the location is really Public relations and making money, not the ultimate “safe” location (which I think is hidden)

    Ben seems to have gone full-on Christian Radical: wearing prominent crosses, wife-beater undershirts, ranting about “Denver sucking” and its Satanic tendencies, adopting a crazy-eye “Rasputin” stare into the camera.

    I used to think this guy was the real deal…not so sure anymore.

    …I still listen to almost every short video he posts, tho. The long ones are too irritating, so no, not watching.

    I’d appreciate any feedback from the forum.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    talk of the devil

    Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

    * I'm posting this without listening to it first.


    The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson
    1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


    Show notes
    Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.
    This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

    IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

    He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.
    Delight,

    Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.
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    Bill, I thought you might like to weigh in on the thread here:https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672192
    And please don't miss Casey's informative post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672235
    Yes. The new thread asked: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    I'm going to quote Casey's post here, because I entirely agree.

    Quote Posted by Casey Claar (here)

    It is opportune to say something at this point.

    Ben began reporting daily, and I want to emphasize this - DAILY - in roughly 2008.

    Back in the beginning, it was just REPORTING, no live-streaming or "salt". No-one really knew who Ben was, his age, or what he looked like, he was just a voice, - a voice reporting HIGHLY INTERESTING things about the sun's daily activity. He had his eye on something, but I couldn't say for sure when the moment came that even he knew exactly what that was. But when he was sure, when he felt certain, he stepped out in front of camera and began to let everyone know. Goodness -he is barely 40 now, to think he was in his very early 20s when he began his daily reports (which used to be much longer and pure raw data) it blows my mind. Anyone with this kind of discipline has my genuine respect. When, just recently in the last year or two Ben started the live-streams, and people SO easily began donating to him I felt he had earned this, every single penny. Again, I will say, he has a decidedly certain skill. He observed the patterns religiously, hours on end, day in and day out for decades and a potential, and even probability presented to him. He has honed his skill for decades, his dedication to collecting incoming data consistently in real time is to me quite clear (regardless of the in front of the camera persona he also began sharing). His work had at this point gained a foothold of deep appreciation in me. I am far more alert to the sun, the magnetic poles and magnetosphere than I ever would have been otherwise. I have been able to use this data to quite successfully help myself, as I age, and also my elderly care clients. I won't go into details, but what the sun is doing is very important to our health, notably our heart health and increased incidence of stroke (all highly important to those I care for).

    The entire body of Ben's work is online and on his youtube channel. If it were not important, this work, I would not point this out. Like the man or not what he is doing is important. He is young, and like the rest of us he will make mistakes. The most beneficial thing any one of us can do for him, our fellow man, is see him in the highest light, for the greatest good of one and all. This is what will bring just this more out of him. It is not an easy experience, being known to millions of people, his life experience is now connected to everything we think and feel of him. Help him be more successful/beneficial than not, while lifting yourself in the process by sending nothing but the best in thought-streams out into the ocean in which we all swim.

    I am sending my advance gratitude out to you all

    Casey
    I'll say it more simply (and far less elegantly!): I have no concern about Ben's personality, his personal affairs, or what he may or may not be doing at the Observer Ranch.

    I'm only interested in the data he reports, which I'm as sure as I can be might be very important. As some of you may be aware, 6 months ago in November 2024 I received a strong clear message — twice! — from an unknown invisible source, that a major solar event would strike and incapacitate the US in (I believe) early 2029.

    While I can't possibly know for sure if that will happen (let alone prove the 'reality' of my experience!), it all felt extremely vivid, real and plausible to me. Moreover. it's 100% consistent with the level of increased solar activity Ben Davidson has been predicting for a while now. That's why I follow his updates daily.

    Thank you, Bill, direct and to the point is GOOD.

    I would like to continue on what you have said, as it relates to what I, myself, have seen -as experienced in the out of body state -and learned as a direct result.

    It is likely that many of us who follow Ben's progress and data have in some way, form or fashion received data relevant to what he, himself, has his eye on. In my case, in the 4 year period of time (2009-2013) in which I was going out of body regularly, multiple times weekly, one of the things I was shown were the tsunamis impacting the West Coast of California. I had three such experiences within weeks of each other, the first of which I was placed directly within. Meaning I experienced it "physically", real as could be. I achieved the necessary realization a mere instant before the wall of water took me, so I did not "die". What I did experience I am still working diligently to fully process. However, in its regard I can say this. There is an Event that is in play concerning our planet and its current student body.

    Relevant to the current student body, there are 3 basic groups of people here:
    1. Those aiming to survive the end of the current semester/cycle to begin repopulating and educating the new incoming wave of 3D Earth experiencers
    2. Those completing their 3D Earth sojourn and continuing, potentially elsewhere their 3D learning-cycle
    3. Those apt to graduate/satisfy their 3D experience requirement who, through the Event currently in play, will carry their Memory with them into the next gradient

    There is no hierarchy within these basic groups, it is just good to have an idea of where you are in the scheme of all this, and to not create an unnecessary dichotomy between groups. We each, and all have our role. All are valid, and necessary. This said, there not many of us in groups #1 and #3, the vast majority are of the #2 group. And, this said, the reason that those like Ben (clearly in group #1), Bill (probable #3 group), myself and others come forward to share our information. It is so that the spectrum-of-possibility can be seen/identified, so that each of us presently here can properly focus into what g l o w s the most for them. The growth potential that exists in all this is truly beyond what we may be able to imagine. I know that even what I have experienced this far into it, staggers my ability to justly comprehend, and I am certain this is only a fragment of a fragment of what is possible.

    Let's see where everyone wants to go from here.


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    Quote Posted by Casey Claar (here)
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    talk of the devil

    Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

    * I'm posting this without listening to it first.


    The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson
    1 hour 43 minutes - Posted Jun 10, 2025


    Show notes
    Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.
    This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

    IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

    He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.
    Delight,

    Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.
    "They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so." (from 58 minutes)

    He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature.

    However, I have seen very credible evidence IN PERSON that white lines appear, the sky goes "white" then rains come. I have seen radar patterns displayed (or some measurement) that precedes hurricane formation seeming to develop out of "no where". The thing is, I am no expert on weather but there is something quite peculiar and coincidental about SOME weather extremes.

    I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.

    For me, the anticipation that we have had weather modification tech deployed including steering huricanes and (maybe) creating hurricane conditions means we could STOP doing it. To anticipate that deluges of floods and drought have been modulated by tech means we could STOP that activity. same for triggering earthquakes. At anyrate, all the aerosols SHOULD be stopped.

    I really do think strongly that "reality" has shattered and the shards are clung to by various people. I do NOT think the world is what we are told and the Apocalypse is opening the truth. It is weirder and more wonderful than we are told to believe.

    On a different note, why are all those who are waiting for the sun to micronova NOT enmasse headed to the nearest government offices to take over the underground facilities. If I thought this is eminent, I would be constantly posting about demanding they be opened. All kinds of underground installations exist in the US but no one is heard demanding they be opened.

    Time will tell and I am sure I am just as entitled to my POV as the catastrophists.
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    I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.
    Hello Maggie.

    I’ve mentioned many times before, I truly appreciate what you share. Much of it resonates deeply with me—not because I align with any New Age label, but because it reflects lived experiences from my own life, well before that term ever existed. I've seen, felt, survived, and understood through my own journey that I am a Creator. I am here to create for myself and to create with others.



    ***********************

    I used to listen to the Ben reports, but I stopped after a while. I realized I was starting to take on his views instead of trusting my own. It made me start doubting my own creative power. I'm not here to change the whole world — I'm here to live my part.

    ***********************

    I’ve shared two tsunami dreams on other threads.

    August 11, 2024 - Fake tsunami


    I had a dream last evening of a fake tsunami. I’m not sure if it was me or another that said, “Wake up. Get up.” The ’get up’ part was to break out of the dream so I’d remember. It was confirmation that this world is an illusion. Do not be ensnared by the noise of the 3D.

    The dream flashed in my mind several times this morning. The image wasn’t even a convincing piece of artwork readying to crash upon all the screaming bodies trying to out run the tsunami curtain.

    I turned to the storm and spoke with knowing: “It’s fake.”

    I stood my ground. The wave dissolved into something pitiful: water trickling out of a few scattered holes.

    The dream was a call to remember how much creative power we hold in this space—within and all around us.

    ***********************

    May 20, 2025 - tsunami wave

    I kept having recall of the dream of a tsunami wave. My loved ones patiently wait for me to do something as our home was about to be swallowed up. I held my hands up and simply told it to stop. The windows held firm and not a single drop crept beneath the door.

    The power lay in sacred timing. A moment I could not anticipate, only recognize when it arrived. It was a lesson in stillness, in surrender to the presence that dwells deep within—the ancient, watchful part of me that waits in silence, always ready to awaken.
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    I so appreciate everyones perspective, I can relate to them all in some way. Please everyone keep posting your own deep feelings about how you see and deeply "feel" our reality, I think it is very, very, important
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    Quote Posted by Casey Claar (here)
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    talk of the devil

    Since posting above I went back to browse my podbay inbox and found that James Dellingpole's latest guest is Ben Davidson.

    * I'm posting this without listening to it first.


    The James Delingpole Podcast - Ben Davidson
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    Are we all going to die from an imminent ‘flip’ in the earth’s magnetic poles? Is this the real reason the ultra rich are building their bunkers? Does this explain why the Northern Lights are now sometimes visible as far south as Florida? Is there anything any of us can do to survive the coming Apocalypse? Ben Davidson - host of SpaceWeatherNews - tries to persuade an unconvinced James that it’s worth making the effort. This is a classic episode which goes in all sorts of unexpected directions and will entertain you greatly.
    This was an interesting interview and I heard something interesting. he says control of weather is "horse ****" at about 58 minutes. I see in the collective discussions various factions of informers who seek to confuse us so we basically have a fractured "intent". He is in this one sentence telling me he is instilling something.

    IF we as humans cannot "control" forces, then we cannot effect anything. But IF we CAN and have been and thus have caused various repercussions, then IF these machinations end and the effects end, VERY differnt focus of intent.

    He is a tool as all influencers are IMO.
    Delight,

    Ben does not deny weather modification, that is mainstream news at this point and almost utterly out in the open. What he says, and I say this having listened to multiple hundreds of hours on his views, is that not all trails in the sky are chemical trails, the type designed to modify weather. What he is likely also addressing in his comment is (a pet peeve of his that he gets bombarded with hourly) the idea that MAN can control / is responsible for what more fundamentally are natural cycles, notably the point(s) in the cycles where Earth experiences the mini and macro ice ages -what we call "climate change". These are well known events, - the Younger Dryas, the Carrington Event, etc.. which can be researched. It is not unknown to us that these have occurred. It is Ben's view, and I must say my own that these are NATURAL cycles not caused by human activity. Our activity while incarnate is relevant to the Earth we ourselves experience while incarnate, as well as our own growth potential, and ultimately graduation from the 3RD gradient to the 4TH -- but it does not alter the curriculum itself or the semesters/cycles the curriculum is covered through, ie: when they begin and end. Public speaking is not easy, the words said, why we have said them, is not always necessarily made clear in simple podcasts. The Bret Weinstein interview Onawah posted is VERY good. I hope more interviewers of Bret's caliber step up to speak to Ben. It is when he comes through at his very best, which is something I do hope more people can see.
    "They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so." (from 58 minutes)

    He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature.

    However, I have seen very credible evidence IN PERSON that white lines appear, the sky goes "white" then rains come. I have seen radar patterns displayed (or some measurement) that precedes hurricane formation seeming to develop out of "no where". The thing is, I am no expert on weather but there is something quite peculiar and coincidental about SOME weather extremes.

    I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.

    For me, the anticipation that we have had weather modification tech deployed including steering huricanes and (maybe) creating hurricane conditions means we could STOP doing it. To anticipate that deluges of floods and drought have been modulated by tech means we could STOP that activity. same for triggering earthquakes. At anyrate, all the aerosols SHOULD be stopped.

    I really do think strongly that "reality" has shattered and the shards are clung to by various people. I do NOT think the world is what we are told and the Apocalypse is opening the truth. It is weirder and more wonderful than we are told to believe.

    On a different note, why are all those who are waiting for the sun to micronova NOT enmasse headed to the nearest government offices to take over the underground facilities. If I thought this is eminent, I would be constantly posting about demanding they be opened. All kinds of underground installations exist in the US but no one is heard demanding they be opened.

    Time will tell and I am sure I am just as entitled to my POV as the catastrophists.
    Hello, Delight, and thank you for your reply.

    First please let me say that I do not know anything about what others have said of you and what you share. Aside from the part about Ben being a "tool" along with all "influencers" I find what you've said perfectly reasonable. And we are all entitled to our point of view. I just don't feel that what you've said is exactly oppositional to what Ben has said. Ben is aware of the creative power of consciousness. Listening to more than just a blurb from a single talk will ultimately reveal this. It is important to remember, I feel, when listening to anyone deeply studied in a certain subject, that they have FAR more data from which they are formatting their view than do we. Ben reads, studies and analyzes EVERY scientific paper put out on the sun and space weather, for instance, whereas I do not. He knows and can more accurately recognize what is going on up in our skies than can I as a result. So, I take in his data openly, and then as time allows begin my own research on the data. Beginning with the scientific papers he has so diligently been bringing to our daily attention for decades -and what others are saying about these papers. Ben, like Avalon, is an exceptional resource. I can find everything I need, by way of a decent starting place from which to begin my own research right there on his page when it comes specifically to his subject of expertise. Just as I can come here to discover just about anything under the sun going on our planet. Which I trust to all of you to bring forward, as my primary eye is in another field, the data from which, in exchange, I gladly bring to all of you.

    I feel it important to note, that not every trail in the sky is what we've been calling a "chemtrail". I must admit, prior to hearing Ben say this, I did principally take most every trail up there to be this. He knocked me good with that statement! lol. It is so easy to get carried away with an idea, ideas we often fail to study on our own in order to learn in greater accuracy. I thank him for knocking some quick sense in to me. I am glad I was tuned in to his stream that day and did not click off before I heard it. This is how we ALL keep each other in check. I will continue to thank goodness for each and every one of you.

    Let's go back to what you've quoted Ben saying:

    Quote "They can't control the weather. They can't control earthquakes. All the stuff you hear on the internet is complete horse ****. Complete horse ****. They can cloud seed and make it rain if the raincloud is there to begin with. They can't make one out of nowhere. They can block a fraction of sunlight with aerosl spraying up in the stratosphere. But that does not leave white lines....... We are ants... They are not able to do much to be honest with you. they'd like to think so, or they would like us to think so."
    And what you started by saying next:

    "He then goes on to say that they don't care what we blame as long as it is not nature. He seems invested in promoting it is all nature."

    And to begin what I, myself, would say in continuing >>

    Consciousness and The Nature thereof is fundamentally ALL we are experiencing. Ben seems to have a grasp of this. Not many of us yet do. Consciousness and Nature are what are in charge here. I concur. This is all there is of what we like to call "us". Yet we like to separate ourselves from this. Assign a sort of control of our own. Which in a sense is accurate, and in a sense is not. It is for each one of us to begin to glean in which sense it is founded, and in which sense it is without any foundation whatsoever. I might say it is accurate when synchronous and harmonious which That which is essentially being us, and not when in any way oppositional to this. It is accurate when a sharable wave/idea is achieved, and not accurate when the wave, idea, that which is attempting to be done is less than what is in the best interest of one and all. Without the shareable wave one is quite impotent (there is only so far they can take that idea). I feel this is what Ben is referencing when he quite rightly diminishes the power of those behind some of the trails in our skies. People tend to like to think the proverbial "they" are so powerful. I would agree with Ben, they are not. Those achieving the SHAREABLE wave are. Most of what is fed to us is smoke and mirrors. The "all powerful Oz" behind the curtain. Many of us do like to sustain that illusion. One of the many ways we do this is by thinking "they" are more capable than they are. Like he says, they just love for us to believe this.

    All this, to be clear, is not to say there are not [ - ] types out there doing what they are.

    Only to say their impact is nominal, yet also equivalent to what we collectively believe.

    Great, great care must be taken.


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    I so appreciate everyones perspective, I can relate to them all in some way. Please everyone keep posting your own deep feelings about how you see and deeply feel" our reality, I think it is very, very, important
    This bears repeating.
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    I’ve shared two tsunami dreams on other threads.

    August 11, 2024 - Fake tsunami


    I had a dream last evening of a fake tsunami. I’m not sure if it was me or another that said, “Wake up. Get up.” The ’get up’ part was to break out of the dream so I’d remember. It was confirmation that this world is an illusion. Do not be ensnared by the noise of the 3D.

    The dream flashed in my mind several times this morning. The image wasn’t even a convincing piece of artwork readying to crash upon all the screaming bodies trying to out run the tsunami curtain.

    I turned to the storm and spoke with knowing: “It’s fake.”

    I stood my ground. The wave dissolved into something pitiful: water trickling out of a few scattered holes.

    The dream was a call to remember how much creative power we hold in this space—within and all around us.

    ***********************
    I thank you dearly for sharing this, RunningDear!

    When I shared my own tsunami report a few posts back and mentioned having made the necessary realization in time to not "die" in that event it was along this same line -- not that it was fake, exactly, but that all of what we like to call "reality" IS A DREAM. I realized I was in the inner fields, that I could therefore take in data from a wide array of the fields. I became the Ocean (in which I literally was in that event and) in which all that is, is taking place. I cannot process all that data through my 3D Earth human consciousness. But it impacts me in exciting and relevant ways in present time.

    I feel two primary things that come to me, as applies specifically here to what we are saying:
    1. There is a difference in what we can do in a private reality, to that which is probable in a consensus space. I cannot stop Nature and the cycles of time as an incarnate here in 3D Earth space. But what I can do is make the necessary realization, emphasis on REALIZATION in time to surf the end of a cycle into a new paradigm (a new grade/gradient). I am indeed aiming at just this.

    2. I do not feel, or suspect that many of us will actually experience much of the "end", the cataclysmic part of the current cycle and beginning of the next. Most will shift prior to this, either through the normal avenue (death), or seamless shift into another branch of the Overall life experience. I have experienced first hand in OBE states how our discrete consciousness is made to seamlessly shift into realities, seemingly without any break at all in its sense of continuity. It just seems as though "there" is where we have always been. Consciousness truly is astounding. We will enjoy exploring it for a long, long time to come.
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    Delight, I did not suggest that maybe you should go off and be on New Age forums.
    I wasn't "shoulding" you.
    I was just inquiring why you remain on Avalon where so much of what we focus on here is what many might consider to be "fear porn", but imho is more just about what is happening in the world today which is not healthy or wise, such as wars, depopulation agendas, transhumanisn, the NWO, alien abduction, etc.

    (Speaking for myself, I consider it a service that many of us are engaged in by bringing to light things that need to be dealt with, which the mainstream media usually either ignores, obfuscates, or altogether misrepresents.
    Is see it as a kind of Karma Yoga, a role that may be taken on as part of spiritual practice. )

    What I actually wrote was this:


    "It would be difficult to find any threads on the forum these days that aren't part of what you seem to be unwilling to admit to your reality, Delight.
    It makes me wonder why you haven't abandoned Avalon for some much more New Agey venue.
    The news from around the world is hardly blissful these days, at least not what Avalon members are looking at for the most part."

    ...And I also wrote this, though I've reworded it a bit:
    "I used to try to live in a kind of New Age bubble that filtered out realities I didn't want to admit were real.
    But I feel a lot more grounded now that I realized how naive I was being, and finally got through the stages of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and on to acceptance.
    Denial can be addictive, and I wanted so much to believe that the Golden Age was right around the corner and something miraculous and wonderful was going to happen soon to make everything clearly start to come right, within my lifetime, and for the whole world.

    I didn't want to admit it when it came to Ben's information, but I couldn't deny my intuitive feeling that he was onto something, and once my spirit guides informed me that my own suspicions based on his were correct, I had to bite the bullet.
    My spirit guides don't speak to me very often, but when they do I listen, because so far, they haven't been wrong."

    ***************

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    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    I heard Onawah's message that maybe I should go off and be on new age forums. I am not "into" interacting with channels, guides and other astral activities. IMO I am a human being and that means I can learn to manage the holographic field of my own. I am going to keep posting here and I KNOW that there are quite a few people like me who are NOT new age and also disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia. However, TIME will tell and I will not stop thinking woo as I see fit.
    You wrote that you "disagree with mental projections aimed at catastrophobia."
    The original subject of this thread (though it has certainly strayed a bit off topic) is whether Ben Davidson is starting to run a doomsday cult.

    Another subject which has come up in this thread is dreams and visions.
    They can influence us one way or another, from fearful to beautific.
    But dreams and visions and scientific data are very different things, though they may dovetail.
    What we may want to believe about this physical plane, and how it actually manifests-- in patterns and cycles that can be described and predicted by various means, based on various disciplines including mathematical, geological, historical, and astrophysical-- are also very different things.

    Spirituality should also be included in that list of disciplines; for example the Hindu cosmology, which has described in great detail the various ages, or Yugas, of both Light and Darkness, which the Universe transverses throughout eternity, and what transpires in each.
    Even though in the final analysis, it can also be said that it's all just an Illusion, except for "the One", the Creator, God, or whatever name you choose.
    And though the Dark Ages are definitely not pleasant in the physical manifestations, even in those times there may be enlightened beings who lead the Way to that Oneness.

    But all have their place within this Illusion, and when prophets, visionaries, clairvoyants, etc. foresee what is destined to happen in the future that also corresponds to what science and logical reasoning describe as well, and the former prove to be right, there is a meeting ground that can be very enlightening.
    But it's important to keep both in their proper place and perspective, since both have worth and fulfill a role.

    The documented information that has been shared here by me and others about what Ben Davidson has shared as a credible and knowledgable scientific researcher isn't "mental projections aimed at catastrophobia".
    I'm not sure if that was what you were inferring, but you seem to dismiss such scientific data as if it has no value on the physical reality that is currentaly 3D Earth.
    Or perhaps you are just positing that it may be affecting others, but that it's not affecting you.
    You also seem to infer that anyone who accepts such scientific data (even when it corresponds to prophecies and visions) as being credible and worthy of consideration in their understanding of this physical reality, are simply being misled, or misleading themselves.
    Is that a true assessment?
    I am not attempting to be dismissive of your stance, but I'm not really sure what your stance is, so I hope you will clarify.
    I'm also not really sure that you understand what my stance is.

    I don't know what more I can say to assure you that I am not living in some kind of existential mental hell because I think the data about the solar cycles is accurate.
    Or how to assure you that I'm not living in fear because of my acknowledgement of the worth of such scientific data.
    On the contrary, I am actually living in less fear than I was before, when I was working very hard to keep my logical mind from interfering with my wishful thinking. ...With my emotions constantly trying to substitute my logical reasoning with more "positive thinking", however unreasonable that thinking might have been.
    It just created a never ending battle between two sides that I had created within myself, a battle which was very ungrounding and exhausting.

    The acceptance of this fragile physical reality that I feel now is not based in fear or denial, it's just grounded in what is, and that for me does include the spiritual level as well as the material level of this reality.
    They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
    It's a kind of equilibrium that I had been wanting to attain since my younger years when I first began practicing Zen meditation, and studying that POV.
    My current state of mind may not be Nirvanic, but it's definitely not consisting of senseless"mental projections aimed at catastrophobia", and I don't think that is Ben's state of mind either.
    I think he's too busy doing what he set out to do, which is to save as many lives as he can, and as Casey said, sincerely living the "hero's journey" to the best of his ability.

    Peace to you.
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    Default Re: Is Ben Davidson starting to run a Doomsday cult?

    You might find it interesting to listen to this interview of Ben:
    https://podbay.fm/p/the-delingpod-th...49551253?t=323
    I think you will discover he's a lot different than you imagine, maybe not your cup of tea, but certainly interesting and unique.
    His training as a lawyer probably puts a lot of people off, but his reason for becoming a lawyer wasn't at all what motivates most lawyers, but it's served him well in learning how to succeed in the System.
    But he's very much an idealist and uses that knowledge as an idealist does, not an opportunist.
    He is very clued in to the occult, the NWO and how many Satanists there are operating and controlling behind the scenes, and what their game plan and mindset is, though he's not really very afraid of them.
    I find his take on what goes on between the "white hats" and "black hats" and what's in the Bible and the Book of Enoch, etc. interesting.
    So he's very canny, and has high moral standards even though he doesn't suffer fools gladly (exept apparently James Delingpole, who is actually a "Flat Earther" )
    He was a chess champion as a child, beating even high school champions, is a speed reader with a highly retentive memory, obviously brilliant with a very high IQ, and is very driven, with a sort of hyperactive but very focused mind.
    I don't imagine he's easy to get along with, and obviously has a very ironic, sardonic sense of humor, but I think he's kind of fascinating.

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    Fifteen minutes is what you base your asssessment on, Mike? I hope you don't really expect anyone to take that very seriously.
    He's carrying a lot of responsibility on his shoulders with a lot of people depending on him for their survival, and working very hard to be worthy of it.
    I would say that could make anyone a bit nervous.

    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    This guy's kind of a spaz. That's not much of a contribution to the thread, but it's all I got.

    I watched maybe 15 mins of him, but I had to turn it off. I just couldn't do it. And it wasn't because of his pessimism necessarily. It was because it was like watching a speed addict hold forth on something they imagine is brilliant within the glow of their high..but not being high myself I couldn't appreciate it.

    Any beer drinking college students who happen to find themselves in the presence of a room full of coke heads can appreciate my observation here maybe. That's what it reminds me of. This guy is just on a weird wavelength.
    I already admitted it's not much of a contribution!
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