Great women in history

[shaberon]

Very good. I am pleased to see that on mention of this topic, both of my heroines have been mentioned.


To this, I'll add somewhat of a third, Enheduanna ca. 2,300 B. C. E.:





Enheduanna is the first known named author.

She has less details and the general problem of possibly later works simply being attributed to her name or to the "priestess of En"; nevertheless, there was at least such a person around the beginning of what's considered "recorded history".

There are a few older fragments, but you can literally study 2,300 B. C. E., which reveals a veritable explosion of written works in Akkadia and Syria. Without going into details, one might reasonably summarize Enheduanna as the beginning of intellectual history.

The other two are also epochial.

Hypatia of Alexandria marks the beginning of the Dark Age. That is to say, a more or less intact "world order", represented by open debates, was murdered by a monologue, which violently blanketed all Europe except for the Balkan states, creating a mentally-closed monoculture.

HPB marks the beginning of the Modern Age, that is, when discussion from *outside* of the monologue asserted its way back into common parlance. She had no formal education, which is why her books are stuffed with quotes from so many male authors, that is, to put her on equal footing with males publishing from institutions. It worked, because her material was the main conversation piece everywhere for about fifty years.

Her life and career is fearless and fascinating and is *not* represented by later branches of pseudo-Theosophy.


If you take a close look at the Greek Oracles, you can trace how this language was suborned and regurgitated in a distorted meaning starting from the Septuagint. Oracles and healing revolved around the services of Daimons, beings of light. If they may have had a malevolent class, it would be prefixed as Kako-daimon. The Septuagint erases this and gives back "Daimon" as strictly an "evil being", from which we get the English demon. Use of this word is to go along with a Jewish fabrication.

Judaism does not actually forbid dealings with "demons" in the sense of some kind of monstrous being, such as a shedu or something even more grotesque, believed to stalk the earth and be harmful to people, etc.; what it forbids is sorcery.


As an American Buddhist, that is what got my attention about HPB. What do you mean she was the first western convert. Howcome none of these supposed followers are Buddhists. Something is inconsistent there. Her real story is best told by Alice Cleather and the Panchen Lama. It actually is a rather incredible thing that led to the dispensation of Buddhism via Sikkhim. Followers in this line include Mme. David-Neel and A. E. Evans-Wentz.


That is not to say there is nothing else "great", but those three women virtually define history in a way that cannot be rivalled.

[onawah]

What was posted in post #20 here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1667780
...was not written by me, but something I simply copied and pasted from this site: https://blavatskyarchives.com/longseal.htm
Apologies if it is not wholly accurate.
My intention was not to misinform, but simply to bring attention to Blavatsky's considerable impact on history and on the world.
Thanks for any corrections you might care to make.

Although Blavatsky was most known for her work as an innovative scholar, I also noted that she was reported to have great ability as a healer, and no doubt as a psychic or at least, as an "intuitive", as well.
The abilities of women as healers, intuitives and psychics is what I most wanted to highlight, as in the history written by patriarchy they have so often been branded as unholy and dangerous.
...Which may or may not be the case, depending on the individual, but in large part they have been been painted with the same brush in less enlightened times.

Posted by shaberon (here)
What do you mean she was the first western convert. Howcome none of these supposed followers are Buddhists. Something is inconsistent there. Her real story is best told by Alice Cleather and the Panchen Lama. It actually is a rather incredible thing that led to the dispensation of Buddhism via Sikkhim. Followers in this line include Mme. David-Neel and A. E. Evans-Wentz.
That is not to say there is nothing else "great", but those three women virtually define history in a way that cannot be rivalled.

[Jaak]

Blavatsky is a nice mention to the topic . One lecture about her that is quite good.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0FLStxqvzfU

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by shaberon (here)
Followers in this line include Mme. David-Neel and A. E. Evans-Wentz.

A small question: you wrote A. E. Evans-Wentz, but did you mean Walter Evans-Wentz? You almost never (or maybe never at all!) get anything wrong, so I found myself a little confused.

Alexandra David-Néel deserves her own long post here, which I'd love to add later. A most, most remarkable woman, who 100 years ago traveled extensively in then-forbidden Tibet disguised as a monk and wrote in detail about her many profound and extraordinary experiences.

~~~

And an interesting personal aside. One of my closest friends is an Austrian woman who had been Helena Blavatsky previously. I've known her for over 35 years, and she is a spiritual teacher herself.

She has many extremely detailed memories of her life as Blavatsky, and has corroborated them with extensive past-life regression. I have zero doubt that my friend was indeed her. She has told almost no-one else about this, has never written about it, and confided in me that "Helena made many mistakes."

[shaberon]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by shaberon (here)
Followers in this line include Mme. David-Neel and A. E. Evans-Wentz.

A small question: you wrote A. E. Evans-Wentz, but did you mean Walter Evans-Wentz? You almost never (or maybe never at all!) get anything wrong, so I found myself a little confused.

Yes indeed -- I mixed up a "W" -- A. E. Waite of another organization.

I make a mistake every day. Once in a while someone can spot this -- which I take as symptomatic of an active mind. Big purpose of posting things publicly.

Walter Evans-Wentz was a humble Theosophist who did what he could to authentically research into Buddhism. Resultingly, it may have over-colorized some of our lenses based on the Bardo Thodol or "Book of the Dead", which is a ca. 1,300 terton or revelation within a certain Nyima lineage. For example, that's not what David-Neel was doing.

Intellectually she was much closer to the true core and on a personal level testifies to "remarkable" results.

HPB on the other hand, as far as I can tell, was not taken in to any initiate or otherwise advanced status within our lineages.

The great strength in reading her is that she brings up the correct basics of Yogacara, however I have several reason to suspect she was more highly exposed to Chinese Chan which is not the same as Indian Yogacara. Consider the unusual prevalence of Chinese terms in The Secret Doctrine.

The real mistake she made, is in praising the Alaya as if it were Vishnu or something. This is non-Buddhist entirely. Buddhist Yogacara teaches the extinction of Alaya by Asraya Paravrtti or "revolution of the basis", which, i. e. is detectable as what Mme. David-Neel experienced, even if she lacked the technical vocabulary to express it.

Also, HPB's authority on the ancient-ness of Buddhism was a hypothetical Bodhidharma lineage which is used in the martial arts, because i. e. it is famous in China. At best we can call it a semi-mythical reconstruction. It does seem to validly refer to a teacher in south India from around the year 400 or so. Otherwise it is probably not all literally true.

The much more accurate and authentic records in China are catalogs of translations that begin in the 100s at White Horse in Luoyan, i. e. "Han culture". These fill a lacuna because India hasn't really got any records until maybe the 500s. The Chinese even kept records of texts that had been lost for generations. This information is very poignant, because it can be used to determine redacted or ghost-written texts, while establishing that, at best, Chinese translations are not that good, and, secondly, they are notorious for wanting to throw something in or change it around on their own.

Tibet has similar issues.

The office of the Dalai Lama is rather like that.

It's there because of once gaining the graces of the Mongol Khans.

On the other hand, I, personally, come from Kagyu, which is actually the first tulku lineage.

So, we see the Dalai has essentially been eradicated and driven out, and, the Panchen has effectively been nullified by being installed by the Chinese government, so, those seats are off their bloom. That means, at least, in more or less the common esprit de corps, the highest-ranking Lama is a woman:


Samding Dorje Phagmo


who is Vajravarahi tulku since the 1400s.

This is Bodong Panchen school, which is a Kagyu, sort of a cousin because it has its own origin, but is somewhat enfolded because of similarities.

Overall, through Tibet, and back to India, we have a high level of acceptance of female practitioners, yoginis, that reaches to or is the "highest level".

If I put that together with something HPB said, I believe it may have been beyond what she understood. It makes sense because she *was* working in the aegis of the Panchen Lama. What is curious about this office was that it had decided to make a colorized block-print edition of the over five hundred Buddhist deities. Editions were published from around 1810. When performed as a series of empowerments, it takes about a month. They still do this. Anyone can get it. This part, at least, is far from a "secret".

She made an entirely relevant comment when saying she was referring to the path of:


Cinnamasta tantrikas.


That's not in China. I don't think they have it in Japan.

In Buddhism it means Crazy Princess Laksminkara.

And so in a liturgical and yogic sense, I would say our school primarily derives from her.

Before her, almost all we have is fragmentary records, and since then it would not be possible that she is not behind Samding Dorje Phagmo.

Definitely from my view, there are a lot of great historical women, but it's just from "within a tradition" , nothing much objective like inventions or what have you.


I can think of one example who is credible both as a yogini and historically pivotal:


Nepalese Princess Bhrkuti


who has everything to do with why there is Buddhism in Tibet.


HPB was aware of some of the deities and the underlying philosophy of Five Elements, but the primary source of her eastern knowledge appears to have been the Puranas. In that sense, I think, yes, she most likely was associated with normal Indian yogis around Madras and Kashi. There is a lot to say she really was on the receiving end of a coalition that had formed for a hundred years in the contemplation of how to write to the west. I would say that actually happened, and was followed by an arc of Buddhism through Sikkhim in the early 1900s, which is what some known authors got ahold of, i. e. Anagarika Govinda who is really German, for example.


The London Lodge of Theosophy, was put in the hands of another woman, Anna Kingsford, with the intent to teach Hermetism which was considered to have been more palatable to the audience. However she became more influenced by Golden Dawn, which is a different thing entirely. It was basically this, or, skepticism, that captured the attention of English Theosophists.


Outside of Buddhism, I would suggest that one of the most authentic seekers was again a woman. This will give you another entire slab of history. It's what I call the West. It was in the 1930s I think that E. S. Drower went to an enclave of the Mandeans, which is how HPB directly threatened "religion" by posturing something of an anti-papal nature.

If you go back before she was famous, and look at what she was doing with Garibaldi, it may seem like you have run into a deep intelligence network. She was quite highly aware of a lot of things in the objective world, and railed on several of the same topics we are still on today. And I think if you fairly look at the Russian side, it will justify itself. The lady was Roerich and Dolgorukii. She actually wanted to be "Lady Liberty" like Marianne of France. She was really hardcore. She took a saber that narrowly missed her heart, and one of those bullets never came out of her. Definitely an adventuress on a level considerably beyond these others who are "writers".

Considering this to be in the footsteps of Count St-Germain, in dread of what might have been called vaguely around Europe "Money Power", then for the late 1700s there are again three women related to the problem of how to counter it:


Marie Antoinette

Maria Theresa

Catherine the Great


But, then, it turns out that what we might call the politics of Mazzini ravages the continent until bringing us to the state we are in today, which is all explained by Ukraine. Or for example, this is how HPB would refer to someone as a walking gun-for-hire, "a Mazzinist".

Propaganda of the Deed 1857:

To Pisacane, all citizens of a country ought to cooperate with social revolution; he specified conspiracies and assassination attempts as examples of ways citizens could contribute to a social revolution.

Generally credited as the first success was the world's first suicide bombing:


13 March [O.S. 1 March] 1881 – Tsar Alexander II of Russia is killed in a bomb blast by Narodnaya Volya.



In this case, HPB is giving the courtroom details and surrounding events. The plot is considered impossible without the assistance of "a Rothschild-type banker". And if you look around, you find these are student groups, meaning they have a few people in their upper 20s and no one over 30. These then become attached to youth movements. And so you have these groups of radicals with no experience like building bridges or running a cement plant. They plot on selling a violent act to someone and this is your "future".

For some more cloak and dagger, it would be generally correct that the Carbonari under the guise of Memphis and Mizraim rites were an attempt to counter the English freemasonic system and the hegemony of Urquhart and Palmerston of the United Kingdom. But aside from maybe Switzerland, European "revolutions" have usually been agitated violence with that hand behind it. Greece wound up with a Bavarian government. Once this is achieved, the next target is:

Austria.


That's because, as suggested, it developed an intellectual disfavor of the ideals of "Money Power" and was terribly financially successful. It actually was a power that could rival The Power.

It was not only blown to bits; to this day its Constitution says it may not form any defense pacts.

By saying much of the era can be characterized by a few women, they are classed as Enlightened Monarchs, which is a rare breed that does not exist in the United Kingdom.

[shaberon]

Posted by onawah (here)
Although Blavatsky was most known for her work as an innovative scholar, I also noted that she was reported to have great ability as a healer, and no doubt as a psychic or at least, as an "intuitive", as well.
The abilities of women as healers, intuitives and psychics is what I most wanted to highlight, as in the history written by patriarchy they have so often been branded as unholy and dangerous.

Almost literally true.

The curious thing here is Saffron.

The spice we value as Saffron is a specially-cultivated variety that has extra-long stigmas. The genetics of this plant begin only on the Greek mainland or on Crete after 3,000 B. C. E.; this plant reproduces exclusively by cuttings.

Ancient Cretan symbols are illegible, but there is definitely artwork of women and saffron.

Civilizations of that time are thought to have revolved around what's considered a Temple Economy.


There was what must have been a very devastating volcanic eruption.

I am aware of nothing that was written in a period-appropriate manner that reflects any memory of this.

Instead, what we know from what is written is that Crete was re-developed by the Myceneans who ran a Palace Economy. This means a blend of capitalism and oligarchy. Moreover, it became a "system", spreading to multiple Mycenean trading partners around the eastern Mediterranean. There probably was such a thing for a full three hundred years. It disintegrated; and from that point, one can more easily trace pro- and con- arguments of this Patrician class.

Crete lost its dominance at the Saffron market, whose new center became Isfahan, in western Iran, ca. 1,000 B. C. E..

Consequently, for India, true Saffron is not an ancient product of native origin, but, must have been obtained from the west. It perhaps could have come from ancient Crete. "Minoan" is a terrible name, since "Minos" was coined by classical Greek authors who fairly clearly knew almost nothing of the place. It's brushed with legend.


Now, going back the other way. It is almost bewildering what E. S. Drower says about the Mandeans under the subject:


Hirmiz Shah, dancing girls, and Simurgh


The pipers play the same Iranian "ambibi" that the Romans credit Syrian dancers with.



What does that mean, well, for one thing, the Mandeans have selected a few Zoroastrian traditions (Rostam and the Simurgh) and yet the lineage of teachers carrying the story is Hermes.


And what is used in the story is some kind of flute, as found along with a lyre-like instrument in Latin Cinara and Syrian musiciennes:

Horace’s interest in Syrian music-girls is otherwise attested by the ambubaiarum collegia (“colleges of pipers”) who head his appealing list of artistic low-lifes to whom the late piper Tigellius was so generous; that the ambubaiae certainly took their name from an ancient Semitic word for double-pipes (Akk. embūbu, Ebl. na-bu-bù-um) is a strong parallel for seeing ‘Cinara’ as also embodying a Syrian instrument.



Juvenal, a century after Horace, looks back on the flood of Syrian music-girls who prostituted themselves around the Circus, playing the very instruments that are illustrated in the ensembles (‘colleges’) of ninth/eighth-century Syrian and Cypro-Phoenician art (Figures 29, 31): double-pipes, frame-drums, and “horizontal strings” (obliquas / chordas)—an unambiguous allusion to Syro-Levantine playing technique. One should recall Isaiah’s kinnōr-playing ‘harlot’ of Tyre, the ‘lyre-of-lust’ (kinar šiha) in Mandaean tradition, and so on.

What is happening there is that Old Syria (ca. 1,800-1,600 B. C. E.) more or less was India. On the ancient side, you find plausible room for India to have interacted with "Minoan Crete", and later there is this type of cultural residue based through kinnar or music.


What has generally been considered "classical history" is a Greek record post-Trojan War that glorifies the Golden Ram or Aries, which is quite curious because this sign was not invented until perhaps 1,300 B. C. E.. But also from around this time, there is such a thing as Luwian Apollo which is followed by Oracles in Asia Minor. And it is not really "prophecy" that is important about them, at least, not on a regular day-to-day basis. It would have been more like medicine and healing. Secondarily it may have been poetry or music, or saffron dividing or other arts, but for the most general purposes, it is like saying any given region has a few herbalists.

In the Greek sphere, they would have used the names of "Daimons" to enumerate aspects of physical and mental health. The name of this class, overall, has become "demons" thanks to the Septuagint, but then what is rather strange is that personal names of Daimons are then considered virtues by the Bible.

Even so, they have lost their flair, and are watered down, adjectival.

For example, in Oracle-speak, we could have:

Eudaimonia

"Happiness"


I can imagine if I were running around feeling beat up, and, I went to a village healer and they taught me about this, maybe gave me a song, or a way to focus, or to figure out how to stop damaging it, that would probably help me. Personal beliefs were adjustable, you could shift the emphasis this way or that, and then it might be obvious why something like "Justice" Dike might become of widespread popularity.

Over the centuries, it seems like anything resembling "herbalism" came to be viewed as "witchcraft". I suppose, however, that may be the definition of Abrahamic traditions -- no herbs and no daimons. Anyone is entitled to that opinion, but, I would argue it does not flow from this type of lay persons' sorority which had generally been respected in Syria, Asia Minor, Greece.

[Ravenlocke]

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[onawah]

But has it been adequately tested for safety and side effects?

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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We might FINALLY have a cure for cancer, and a Black American woman is the inventor. Dr Hadiyah Nicole Green invented a device that only kills cancer cells. She wants it to be free and is trying to raise money to get it approved

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by onawah (here)

Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
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We might FINALLY have a cure for cancer, and a Black American woman is the inventor. Dr Hadiyah Nicole Green invented a device that only kills cancer cells. She wants it to be free and is trying to raise money to get it approved

But has it been adequately tested for safety and side effects?

Or maybe more to the point, would she be permitted by Big Pharma to create and distribute a free cancer cure? (If her cure is real, it's an exact analogy to the barrier faced by Free Energy researchers for decades now.)