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    I am convinced by Brian Berletic of The New Atlas, that the Isr strikes against Iran must be and were done with approval and assistance of US. The US denials are lying, as usual. This in accordance with detailed strategy documents published by the Brookings Institution.
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    Trump is admitting that the US was directly involved in the unprecedented attack carried out by Israel, targeting Iran. But as
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    noted, this attack has been years in the making, during which the US has worked to dismantle Iran's network of allies in the region...

    https://x.com/RachBlevins/status/1933548954248970531





    🇺🇸🇮🇱 Even as the US hides behind Israel to strike at Iran toward provoking long-desired war, people are still claiming Israel "controls" Washington.

    If Israel was the "master," why wouldn't it have its "proxies" carry out the attack for it and remain free of responsibility and retaliation? An obvious reality people blind with rage cannot see.

    The US is like a matador, using Israel as its cape, he induces a blind rage across the public and governments alike toward Israel/the cape, so much so the matador himself goes unnoticed.

    No matter how many times the bull charges the cape, and the matador sinks swords into its back, the bull is unable to see the big picture and devise a real strategy to survive and overcome its predicament.

    Until people can wake up and see the big picture, survival is not a possibility except through the same sort of coincidental luck a bull might have of hooking the matador while going for the cape.

    And before you shriek "what about AIPAC!," the US arms industry alone spends many times more on influencing Washington, saying nothing of other industries in the US also lobbying for control.

    Israel is a cog, a cape, an instrument of power, just like Ukraine, Taiwan and the Philippines. Those weilding it benefit from the illusion otherwise.

    https://x.com/BrianJBerletic/status/1933423628659658927

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    https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status...64819967824149



    https://english.almayadeen.net/news/...-in-israeli-ag


    At UNSC session, Iran accuses US of complicity in Israeli aggression
    Iran's ambassador to the United Nations, Amir Saeed Iravani, issued a stark warning that an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities presents a catastrophic threat with potential consequences for the entire region.

    Speaking at a UN Security Council session, Iravani stated that the Israeli aggression against Iranian nuclear facilities threatens to trigger a catastrophe with regional repercussions.

    He pointed out that "Israel's" attack on Iran aims to undermine nuclear talks, sabotage diplomatic efforts, and drag the region into a broader conflict.

    Iravani further accused the United States of being complicit by supporting and enabling crimes, asserting that Washington "shares responsibility".


    IAEA confirms destruction at Natanz site

    Rafael Grossi, Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), reported to the Security Council that the above-ground experimental enrichment facility at the Natanz site had been destroyed during the Israeli attack, citing the Iranian authorities.

    He also noted that Iranian authorities informed the agency about attacks on two other facilities; the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant and a site in Isfahan.

    Grossi said that at this moment, his agency lacks sufficient information, except for indications of military activity around these two facilities.

    Russia and China blame US for escalation

    On his part, Russian envoy Vasily Nebenzya expressed condolences to Iran and condemned the Israeli attack as unprovoked and dangerous, warning it could lead to nuclear contamination.

    Nebenzya accused "Israel" of seeking to derail Tehran's nuclear talks with Washington and blamed Western countries for inciting unjustified hostility toward Iran.

    He stated that the United States is responsible for the current escalation due to its withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) and undue influence on IAEA reports.

    The Russian diplomat also emphasized that the UK allowed Israeli warplanes to operate from a military base in Cyprus.

    Russia, Nebenzya affirmed, remains committed to de-escalation.

    Similarly, China's representative, Fu Cong, condemned the Israeli violation of Iran's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    He called for an immediate end to all Israeli military actions and urged peaceful resolution of disputes.

    Fu reiterated China's stance against unilateral sanctions and emphasized that Iran's uranium enrichment activities are conducted legally.

    He also called for an end to Israeli aggression on Gaza and highlighted the importance of regional peace.

    US warns Iran against retaliation

    Meanwhile, US representative McCoy Pitt acknowledged that "Israel" took unilateral action against Iran, stressing that President Donald Trump will not allow Tehran to obtain nuclear weapons.

    Pitt confirmed that Washington had prior knowledge of the strikes but did not participate militarily. He emphasized the protection of American personnel as the top US priority and warned Tehran against targeting American interests, saying, the consequences for Iran would be severe.

    He urged Iran to return to nuclear talks to avoid further death and destruction, while affirming US commitment to a diplomatic resolution that would prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons or "destabilizing the region."

    Security Council session triggered by Israeli aggression

    The UN Security Council convened in New York on Friday following "Israel's" wide-scale attacks on Iranian territory. The strikes targeted Tehran and the provinces of Isfahan, Kermanshah, Lorestan, and Hamadan, with subsequent attacks on multiple Iranian cities and nuclear sites.

    In retaliation, Iran launched waves of missile strikes against "Israel", including direct hits in Tel Aviv, resulting in massive destruction and fatalities, as evidenced by circulating footage.
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    BREAKING: The Director of the Center for Strategic Studies and International Relations, Amir Al-Mousawi, told Al-Mayadeen: One of the Iranian missiles hit a nuclear research center in Tel Aviv.

    Recall Iran has the intelligence and locations of all of Israel’s nuclear facilities.
    This is central occupied Jaffa below! Five injuries have been confirmed and casualties that Israel won’t report.

    https://x.com/Truthtellerftm/status/1933660531157840002

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    BREAKING: The Director of the Center for Strategic Studies and International Relations, Amir Al-Mousawi, told Al-Mayadeen: One of the Iranian missiles hit a nuclear research center in Tel Aviv.

    Recall Iran has the intelligence and locations of all of Israel’s nuclear facilities.
    This is central occupied Jaffa below! Five injuries have been confirmed and casualties that Israel won’t report.

    https://x.com/Truthtellerftm/status/1933660531157840002

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    Holy moly The moment Israeli bunker busters struck Natanz nuclear site near #Isfahan #Israel #Iran

    https://x.com/Uncensorednewsw/status...87044723830915

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    Holy moly The moment Israeli bunker busters struck Natanz nuclear site near #Isfahan #Israel #Iran

    https://x.com/Uncensorednewsw/status...87044723830915


    The B-2 Spirit Bomber

    The 30,000 lb MOP bunker buster is the only ordinance capable of destroying or doing serious damage to Iran's deep nuclear site, Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant. All those aircraft are currently located and accounted for at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri. They could make the trip to Iran nonstop by refuelling several times, but I doubt that is going to happen soon. The smaller bunker busters are not in the same league and cannot deliver the power to complete the job.

    The B-2 Spirit is the only aircraft in the U.S. Air Force that is certified to carry and deploy the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), a 30,000-pound bunker buster bomb designed to penetrate deeply buried and fortified targets. While other aircraft may carry different types of bunker buster bombs, such as the 2,000-pound BLU-109 or 5,000-pound GBU-28, the MOP is specifically designed for extreme penetration and is exclusively compatible with the B-2. The B-2's unique capabilities, including its stealth technology and internal bomb bays, make it the only platform capable of carrying the MOP in an operational setting.

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    Yup...



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    Trey Yingst via X:
    "On the strikes against IRGC Air Force leadership: Israel tricked the top command of Iran’s air force into a meeting and then kept them there, I’m told by an Israeli security official.
    “We did specific activities to help us understand things about them and then used that information to make them act in a specific way,” the official said. “We knew this would make them meet, but more importantly we knew how to keep them there.”
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    The IC is monitoring if Tehran decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.” - Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, 25 March 2025
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    Not much for me to add on this, is there?

    Another "symbolic decapitation" was launched by Stupid.

    It was damaging, but there are consequences.

    Such as the fresh loss of two F-35s.

    Israeli Ben Gurion Airport is closed until further notice: AFP quotes spokeswoman as saying

    Iranian Mehr News Agency citing official sources: Reports of an attack on the Defense Ministry headquarters in Shiraz are false

    Iranian Fars News Agency, citing a military source: The war will expand in the coming days to include all occupied territories and American bases in the region

    IRGC’s General Vahidi: Operation True Promise III will continue as long as necessary

    As for some of the Israeli targets, Fordow and Nantaz nuclear sites are mostly intact.

    The gloves are off, there is some collateral to Zionist residential areas, too bad.

    Israel won't last more than a few days, unless they figure out some way to talk themselves out of it.

    Unlike the Yemeni attempts, this fireball is too big to hide. Too big to withstand. I think Zion may have committed the ultimate suicidal mosquito-on-an-elephant for nothing.

    Someone might hope it stops, but that is up to the regional leadership.

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    Denial has consequences and denial/inaction has brought us to this dangerous precipice - how much further we go toward the edge depends on what we all do next.

    First step will be disallowing the US to pass this off as an "Israeli strike," an operation only possible with not only US intelligence but also logistics, planning, munitions, and likely US aircraft participanting directly.

    The US is also telling Iran it will respond to any Iranian retaliation making the US a direct party to this act of war.

    Those making excuses for Trump this point forward are complicit in the crimes committed by the US and its proxies against peace, stability and prosperity worldwide.

    Hold the corporations that put these politicians into office in Washington accountable, stop giving them your money, stop talking about just boycotting "Israel" and boycott the corporations using Israel to advance US hegemony.

    And those so obsessed with Israel they don't see US corporations as the central problem, you've carried water for this too.

    It's time to wake up and grow up. Your life as you know it will depend on it.

    Yes, this sounds roughly correct, welcome to 1948.

    Head out of sand yet?

    If not, the sand will be removed for you, to bury the inhuman mentality of war for the rich.

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    Great analysis by Pepe Escobar as usual

    Last edited by Bill Ryan; 14th June 2025 at 17:37. Reason: embedded the video

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    Great analysis by Pepe Escobar as usual

    Yes, excellent from Pepe as always. He explained that in his view this is now a hot war on BRICS, and he's seriously worried about Israel's 'Samson option'. And (most interestingly), Nima told Pepe that Iran could have a nuclear weapon "in two weeks". Pepe was so surprised that he interrupted Nima, thinking that must be a mistake. But Nima said he had personal sources, and confirmed his statement.


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    Israel and Iran both bombing each other right now.
    Seems both managed to hit each others oil refineries.




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    Great analysis by Pepe Escobar as usual

    Yes, excellent from Pepe as always. He explained that in his view this is now a hot war on BRICS, and he's seriously worried about Israel's 'Samson option'. And (most interestingly), Nima told Pepe that Iran could have a nuclear weapon "in two weeks". Pepe was so surprised that he interrupted Nima, thinking that must be a mistake. But Nima said he had personal sources, and confirmed his statement.

    Agreed! It always seemed to me that USA’s proxy wars in Ukraine and with Israel were always meant to prolong USA’s world hegemony and the petro dollar control system. Which inevitably also involved their trying to take down the BRICS. This is a huge gamble for USA, and also for Israel who wants to keep alive its goose laying those golden eggs. At this point, it’s hard to see the USA-Israel axis winning this gamble. If they use nukes, they would only gain most of the world’s condemnation and isolation.

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    Israel Attacks Yemen in Attempt to Kill Houthi Leadership

    ▪️Israel has launched a strike on Yemen, presumably targeting a Houthi leader, The Times of Israel reports.
    ▪️Israeli media writes about the death of some leaders of the Ansarullah movement.

    ❗️Axios writes that the IDF's attempt to kill Mohammed al-Amri, the Houthi chief of staff and the second person in the Ansarullah hierarchy, failed .

    https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1934009015454826576

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    BREAKING | Oil depots in Tehran targeted by Israeli warplanes.

    Both sides are now bombing each other intensely.

    Iran struck strategic targets in Haifa, followed by Israeli strikes on oil terminals in Tehran.

    https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1933995147211276733



    Iranian missile attack directly targeted Haifa oil refinery, according to several Iranian and Israeli media reports.

    There are also reports of attacks on electricity infrastructure.

    https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1934005848608542970

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    The discussion is worth listening to, now embedded below. What Mercouris does predict is:
    • The Iranian regime probably will not fall. (The next few says and weeks will tell.)
    • Iran (of course!) will now work hard and fast towards achieving nuclear weapons capability.
    • The US may well get drawn into this, in response to the above.
    • This will be Trump's downfall, and JD Vance will very probably start to distance himself from him.
    This could indeed be the ultimate 'tell' on where Trump, or at least the powers behind him, really stand, at his or their cores.

    Perhaps Trump's support for Israel is one of his typical negotiating tactics -- taking positions in order to maneuver the pieces on the board to his advantage, or perhaps Trump will go down with the Israeli ship, or perhaps both?

    But if all such is done in order to benefit humanity, and if Trump's core objectives align, or are in this case are forced to align by the powers behind him, with what's ultimately of benefit to humanity, then I can look back on these events with gratitude for Trump's work ... even if that involves Trump being disgraced and somehow removed from office in the process.

    Perhaps that is one of the reasons that Q said that Israel had to be saved for last ... Trump would have to sacrifice, or be forced to sacrifice, the most powerful piece he controls on the board, himself, in order to de-materialize a key project of the Rothschild's for the last 100+ years, Zionist Israel.

    If this process includes the collapse of the Rothschild (and associates) bankster controlled debt-money monetary system, I will cheer that day. I've long figured, and stated at least in some private discussions, that whether or not that debt-money monetary system collapses will be a key marker (*) of whether or not we've won.

    Granted, it might be easier for me to take that position than for some others. I have spent the last quarter century disengaging myself from the debt-money system, having only a few pawns left on that board, that I may well lose in the final monetary collapse. Bring it on! I've already totally disengaged myself from the "standard of care" medical system twenty years ago, but that was easier.

    P.S. (*) a key marker of whether some other spiritual force will have won ... we might have to wait for the dust to settle to find out which force. For now at least, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" -- an ancient proverb.
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    Israeli media reports an official saying there is a significant likelihood that the US will join Israel's campaign, in particular to target the Fordow underground nuclear facility.

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    Trump told Israeli that he will join it, Axios reports.

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