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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Looks like Israel took several direct hits.

    I believe we are about to see a huge escalation in this war. The US is almost certainly gonna get right in the middle of this (within the next 24hrs) and the devastation is going to increase bigtime.

    This is horrible.

    I'm hearing from some sources that the US is sending massive hardware over there right now double-time. This is more hardware than whats already there in the region.

    This is going to get really bad fast.
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    #Trump allegedly blocked an Israeli plan to assassinate Ayatollah #Khamenei, according to Reuters. But when pressed on the Reuters report, Netanyahu refused to confirm or deny the assassination plot.

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    Israeli strikes on Iran kill at least 406 people, says human rights group
    • On June 15, 2025, Israel expanded airstrikes across Iran targeting nuclear, military, and energy sites amid ongoing regional conflict.
    • The strikes followed earlier Israeli attacks that killed several top Iranian generals and nuclear scientists, prompting Iranian missile retaliation on Israel.
    • Iran launched retaliatory missile strikes targeting economic sites and residential areas in Israel, killing at least 10 people and wounding dozens in towns including Tamra.
    • US President Donald Trump denied any US role in the attacks on Iran, but cautioned that if Iran launched any form of aggression, the United States military would respond with an unprecedented level of force.
    • The escalating conflict halted Iran nuclear talks, raised fears of wider war, and elicited German calls for Middle Eastern leaders to engage in dialogue to de-escalate tensions
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    Haifa power plant among other targets from 100+ new visits early Monday.

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    5:05


    Keep counting.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    These tensions are decades old. I for one, am hoping this conflict offers the necessary solutions. But it probably won't. [From my position of 'impartial', I do not care who wins but get it out of your system and finish the job.]

    Don't tell us about 'shock and awe' and the remedial gains from such propaganda.

    America would not be served by a cocky attitude, having few victories since WWII. I mean the loss of materiel and lives since then is despicable and the gains negligible. So much for making the planet a better place.

    The world runs on emotions and not on logic and seemingly does not learn from history. Control over emotions seems to be overlooked in this modern era. One would think that we as humanity would have improved all these years but sadly, that is not the case.

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.

    So here... we... go...

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    Quote Posted by JackMcThorn (here)
    These tensions are decades old. I for one, am hoping this conflict offers the necessary solutions. But it probably won't. [From my position of 'impartial', I do not care who wins but get it out of your system and finish the job.]

    Don't tell us about 'shock and awe' and the remedial gains from such propaganda.

    America would not be served by a cocky attitude, having few victories since WWII. I mean the loss of materiel and lives since then is despicable and the gains negligible. So much for making the planet a better place.

    The world runs on emotions and not on logic and seemingly does not learn from history. Control over emotions seems to be overlooked in this modern era. One would think that we as humanity would have improved all these years but sadly, that is not the case.

    Some men just want to watch the world burn.

    So here... we... go...
    Humans have been slaughtering each other for thousands of years, it appears we are now quickly reaching the age of perfecting it.
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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    I'm hearing from some sources that the US is sending massive hardware over there right now double-time. This is more hardware than whats already there in the region.

    Well, they are the belligerent.

    This is seen the same as Ukraine, Taiwan, Philippines by adults.

    As long as it is up to Israelis to deploy the stuff, it will be limited, those limits probably getting smaller as we speak.

    It's too small, it's an eggshell. Soon it will be an underground military base with no country. If this course of events continues. For American, or, e. g. UK forces to do something, those can be counted as graveyards.

    What might happen during the power outage that rolled across half the country in fifteen minutes could be something even more annoying. I mean, it sounds like an opportunity to take advantage of. I don't know exactly what that might be. I keep my fingers crossed for all the airbases. Ben Gurion is irrelevant, there are six or seven scattered ones that the air force uses. All we have seen are a few close calls that didn't really affect anything. Doesn't really take that much to stop one. But it has to be serious.

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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Here's a hair brained idea for ya':

    Perhaps the June 13, 2025 early morning attack on Iran by Israel is like the "Pearl Harbor" event that triggered a major hot war ultimately destroying Imperialist Japan.

    The more resource rich, and at least equally well backed (by Russia), Iran, was ready to take on Israel, straight up. Iran knew, as did Israel, that the Middle East was not "big enough for both of them."

    Perhaps Iran (in its core leadership at least deliberately so) left an apparent opening, at the conclusion of Trump's 60 day ultimatum (to Iran no less, part of the public reshaping of underlying events) to negotiate a settlement, that appears to some analysts now as "Iran letting their guard down" because they were (supposedly) expecting negotiations to continue. But Iran was likely confident it could survive such a first strike, anticipating that it could now use that June 13 attack to justify sufficient retaliation to cause, in the end, with further escalations, the destruction of Zionist Israel.

    Previously, Israel has been pushed and prodded. They have their most Zionist and potentially violent Prime Minister of the last quarter century, "Bibi", back in power, claiming an arsenal that was overwhelming and a defense that was impenetrable.

    Israel not surprisingly saw that opening and took the first strike ... as did Japan on Dec 7, 1941 when it attacked Pearl Harbor, eventually resulting in the ultimate end of Imperial Japan. This is a text-book example of how you take down and subvert a medium sized empire that is expanding using its war powers beyond what the more dominant powers on the planet accept.

    This may be part of a larger war, between:
    • those I sometimes call the elite bastards, the Satanists, who have gone by many names and worked out of many power centers, often in Western Europe and now including deeply corrupted "colonies" of present and former British and other European colonies around the world, and
    • those following or aligned in spirit with Jesus, or similar (at least in my inadequately educated view) manifestations and guides around the world, working to free humanity and seeking a higher spiritual awareness.

    For over a century, Zionist Israel has been a major project of the Rothschilds, who have been a key family in the Banksters funding these wars of conquest and who are now centered in the City of London, with deep infiltration into the world's banking, monetary and financial systems over the last couple of centuries. On my scorecard, these Banksters are on the side of the Satanists, and appear for the most part to be proud of that choice.

    Whereas opening the gates of Pearl Harbor to attack in December 1941 was a rook sacrifice in a larger scheme, now recorded in the history books as World War II, to bring more of the planet under control of the Satanist backers (including controlling elements of the U.S.), could the attack on Iran on June 13, 2025 have been a rook sacrifice in a larger scheme to bring down its Satanist backers?
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    A few words here from George Galloway on the Haim Synagogue in downtown Tehran: there is a large Jewish community here who live peacefully with everyone:

    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Perhaps the June 13, 2025 early morning attack on Iran by Israel is like the "Pearl Harbor" event that triggered a major hot war ultimately destroying Imperialist Japan....

    could the attack on Iran on June 13, 2025 have been a rook sacrifice in a larger scheme to bring down its Satanist backers?


    Israeli media: Iran has begun using precision missiles that are difficult to intercept


    Statement:


    Quote “In this operation, the command and control systems of the brutal Zionist regime were disrupted through the use of innovative methods and enhanced intelligence and equipment capabilities, developed by the martyrs Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh, and other martyrs of the IRGC Aerospace Force. The enemy’s multi-layered defense systems were thrown into disarray, to the extent that their own air defense systems targeted one another.”

    “The innovative tactics and capabilities employed in this operation, despite the comprehensive support of the United States and Western powers and their access to the most advanced and modern defense technologies, resulted in the successful and maximum impact of missiles striking targets in the occupied territories. Today, we are witnessing the fulfillment of the true promises made by martyrs Bagheri, Salami, and Hajizadeh, who repeatedly declared that Operation True Promise III and future operations would be far more devastating, precise, and destructive than previous ones. This operation has also demonstrated that the calculations and assessments of the delusional and aggressive Zionist and American enemies regarding Islamic Iran were entirely flawed, and now they must witness the collapse of the occupying Zionist regime.”

    Supporters of this criminal regime should know that effective, targeted, and increasingly devastating operations against the vital targets of this illegitimate regime will continue until its complete destruction, IRGC warned.

    Then:


    Quote Israeli sources claim that one of the Iranian missiles has hit near a building affiliated with the United States Embassy in Tel Aviv.

    An Iranian missile has landed near an office building affiliated with the US Embassy in Tel Aviv, the Zionists say.

    It was previously reported that last night's wave of Iranian missile attacks on occupied territories in four areas, including Haifa and Tel Aviv, left more than 120 dead and wounded.

    The US envoy in Israel says the country's emabssy in in Occupied Lands will remain closed in wake on Iran's strikes on US embassy in Tel Aviv.

    Pipelines burst in Tel Avi after Iranian missile strikes.
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Let's not forget about the horrendous Israeli genocide of Gaza, still going on right now, thanks to USA shipping endless flow of weapons to Israel. (my emphasis in the article below.)
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    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-relea...uring-israels?

    "GENEVA (14 June 2024) – UN human rights experts including Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967;today strongly condemned the umpteenth massacre by Israeli forces in Gaza during a hostage rescue operation in Nuseirat Refugee Camp, which killed at least 274 Palestinians, including 64 children and 57 women, and injured nearly 700.

    They particularly condemned Israeli forces for treacherously hiding in a humanitarian aid truck coming from the US-built pier, which was intended to facilitate humanitarian assistance. “Acquiring civilian disguise to conduct a military operation constitutes perfidy, which is strictly prohibited under international humanitarian law and tantamount to a war crime,” the experts said.
    “These tactics put aid workers and the delivery of much needed humanitarian aid at even greater risk and expose an unprecedented level of savagery in Israeli military actions,” they said.
    "The dramatically high death toll among Palestinians affected by the rescue operation confirms Israel’s blatant disregard for Palestinian life," the experts said. "Under international law, all civilian life must be equally valued and protected and no life is worth more than another."

    The experts noted that the UN Security Council Resolution 2735 is a way out of the horror, reiterating their call for an arms embargo against Israel to end the violence against Palestinians by Israeli forces and settlers.
    “While the hour is already late, we hope this Resolution will pave the way for durable peace for the Palestinian people and freedom for hostages being held by Palestinian armed groups and for the thousands of Palestinian hostages arbitrarily detained by Israel,” they said.

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    Blinking flip: this is quite the footage here. This is apparently a shot filmed from a Saudi airlines passenger of the recent Iranian ballistic missile barrage launch which must have been filmed from at least 30, 000 feet if not more. (unrelated: any flat Earthers out there? What do you notice? )

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    Airline passengers over Saudi Arabia captured the launch of ballistic missiles from Iran heading toward Israel

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    Quote Posted by thirtythree (here)
    Great analysis by Pepe Escobar as usual

    Yes, excellent from Pepe as always. He explained that in his view this is now a hot war on BRICS, and he's seriously worried about Israel's 'Samson option'. And (most interestingly), Nima told Pepe that Iran could have a nuclear weapon "in two weeks". Pepe was so surprised that he interrupted Nima, thinking that must be a mistake. But Nima said he had personal sources, and confirmed his statement.


    Well, there was an earthquake of 4.4 magnitude yesterday and two more of 4.6 magnitude last week in Balochistan (Pakistani province bordering Iran) which could hint at something. Maybe Israel anticipated a nuclear test and did not want to wait till the talks and went for it.

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/13...kalat-district

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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Looks like Israel took several direct hits.

    I believe we are about to see a huge escalation in this war. The US is almost certainly gonna get right in the middle of this (within the next 24hrs) and the devastation is going to increase bigtime.

    This is horrible.

    I'm hearing from some sources that the US is sending massive hardware over there right now double-time. This is more hardware than whats already there in the region.

    This is going to get really bad fast.
    Yep. All it takes is a false-flag attack on the Americans by *you know who* to pull them right into it. The republicans are already rubbing their hands in glee.

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    Looks like Israel took several direct hits.

    I believe we are about to see a huge escalation in this war. The US is almost certainly gonna get right in the middle of this (within the next 24hrs) and the devastation is going to increase bigtime.

    This is horrible.

    I'm hearing from some sources that the US is sending massive hardware over there right now double-time. This is more hardware than whats already there in the region.

    This is going to get really bad fast.
    Yep. All it takes is a false-flag attack on the Americans by *you know who* to pull them right into it. The republicans are already rubbing their hands in glee.
    Well, one of the US' steel sitting ducks, which will be de-commissioned soon, is heading toward the region (USS Nimitz): maybe that's the sacrificial lamb. See some of the comments here:



    Source: https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1934355463920873736
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    Footage from the damage inflicted on Haifa port: the first thing one notices is how precise the hits were by managing to avoid hitting the docked shipping. That's pretty impressive:

    Source: https://x.com/accesstothepath/status...20281210368006

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    On the internal penetration by Zionist terrorists in Iran:

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    🇮🇷🇮🇱 Interesting explanation about the situation inside Iran by the Iranian journalist Khayal Muazzin:

    I RECEIVED GOOD NEWS AND DECIDED TO SHARE IT WITH YOU - TELL AS MANY PEOPLE ABOUT THIS AS POSSIBLE.

    🟢 About 30 hours ago, Iranian intelligence managed to establish the attack pattern of Mossad and get an important lead. This led to the discovery of several underground workshops for the production of attack drones right in Tehran. These kamikaze drones and swarms of small drones make up 80% of the entire arsenal of strike weapons used by the Zionist regime in recent days. This was not known before, and now it is clear why the enemy's strikes were so painful - the attack was coming from within.

    🟢 The destruction in Tehran and Isfahan is the result of these hidden workshops. According to the latest data, 90% of the impact points and destruction are not related to external invasion, but to operations organized from the country's own territory. Israel was able to penetrate deeply using its intelligence channels and support inside, but now the exposure and cleansing phase has begun. With the capture of sabotage groups and the closure of production facilities, the level of danger will decrease sharply, and attacks inside Iran will decrease by at least 80%.

    🟢 Many are asking why Kermanshah and Tabriz were hit. The answer is simple: there are still those in the government who believe in “US guarantees.” They once believed Washington when it came to Gaza and the so-called control over Israel. Now history is repeating itself: the illusion of security has once again turned into tragedy. However, Iran is drawing conclusions.

    🟢 As for the power of the Israeli Air Force, it is overrated. After air defense systems in the west of the country shot down several advanced fighters, no F-35 dares to approach Iranian airspace anymore. All strikes are carried out either by satellite systems and coordination with local agents, or through internal sabotage channels.

    🟢 The death of IRGC commanders is not a demonstration of the enemy's strength, but the result of internal security failures. You cannot attribute to the enemy something that was the result of an internal shortcoming. But this is precisely why Iran is now acting with restraint and caution. The main goal is to eliminate internal workshops in order to completely paralyze the attacks. And it is only a matter of time.

    🟢 Once this stage is over, Israel will be left without its main trump card – and then it will be Iran’s turn to speak in a language that the enemy actually understands. Israel is afraid of an open confrontation, and we can already see how it is using all its resources – because it realizes that all it has is time. And time is working against it.

    🟢 The leadership of the operation has long since passed from the hands of the National Security Council directly to the headquarters of the Supreme Leader and the military command. The war is now being waged precisely, cold-bloodedly and without compromise. Iran has an arsenal of ballistic missiles hidden deep underground. Not a single enemy attack has reached them.

    🟢 Let us repeat once again: Israel started it. But Iran will finish it.

    🟢 And he will finish it with calculation, dignity and restrained but crushing force.
    12:20 AM · Jun 16, 202
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    Well, there was an earthquake of 4.4 magnitude yesterday and two more of 4.6 magnitude last week in Balochistan (Pakistani province bordering Iran) which could hint at something. Maybe Israel anticipated a nuclear test and did not want to wait till the talks and went for it.

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/13...kalat-district
    George Galloway suggested the same thing in one of his recent videos. and also ran a poll asking whether Netanyahu would have attacked Iran if it had nuclear capabilities. The result was 74% No and 26% yes.

    In the same video, George also reported that Israel has placed its command and control centres under hospitals and its military assets among the densely populated civilian population.
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    I've also seen the DD Geopolitics comment on this piece of footage as well that lampooned David's Sling as 'David's Boomerang' in a darkly humorous way of course. As with their Ukrainian Zionist counterparts, placing these defence systems in civilian areas is not only beyond reprehensible but fraught with obvious consequences should they malfunction, not withstanding the fact that they're also using absolute ****e as well:

    Source: https://x.com/21WIRE/status/1934505551133569506


    Patrick Henningsen:
    *LARRY DAVID’S SLING…
    Watch Israel’s air defense system at Nevatim Air Base backfired and destroy itself...


    *Larry David: famous Jewish comedian and writer famous for the very funny 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' improvised sketch show from the 2000s
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    Vanessa Beeley's source absolutely nails it here, as one might expect. This is a response to another tweXt but I'll isolate it here as its well worth it as a standalone commentary
    "Israel isn’t a state with an army. It’s an army with a state. The claim that Israel "hides military bases among civilians" is an extreme understatement. The reality is far more sinister: Israel is not a normal country with civilian governance, but a militarized occupation masquerading as one — it itself is a sprawling military base with ‘civilian zones’ artificially embedded to support the occupation and protect the regime. Imagine a U.S. military base with an elementary school placed inside to deter attacks: this reflects Israel's approach, scaled up over decades.

    In most nations, governments exist to serve their people. In Israel, the people serve the military. Over 75 years of occupation, Israel has methodically embedded its civilian infrastructure within a sprawling network of military installations — not the other way around. The IOF’s headquarters in central ‘Tel Aviv’, surrounded by high-rises and cafes, is not an exception but the rule.

    The accusation of "human shields" hurled at Palestinians is pure projection. Every Israeli settler in occupied territory is, by Israel’s own logic too, a human shield. Israeli "civilian" towns in the West Bank are not organic communities but strategically placed forward bases, designed to fracture Palestinian continuity and secure territorial control.

    This dynamic is critical to understand as their wailing propaganda about Iran targeting civilians hits a crescendo. Israel’s air defense systems, like Iron Dome, are often placed in populated areas, yet these are legitimate military targets, not defensive assets as framed by Western narratives. Their mobility suggests Israel knowingly uses residential areas as cover.

    Hospitals routinely treat combatants alongside non-combatants, blending military and civilian roles. Similarly, intelligence from Hezbollah’s Hodhod drone indicates military installations atop Haifa University, using students to shield IOF operations, confirming that Israel weaponizes its own population centers to deter attacks.

    By Israel’s own definition, any nation embedding military assets in cities is guilty of human shielding. Yet Israel does this systematically, from intelligence hubs beneath ‘Tel Aviv’ skyscrapers to artillery positions beside settlements.

    Israel’s entire existence as a settler-colonial project relies on this bait-and-switch: portraying its militarized outposts as "civilian" while crying victim when they’re attacked. The world will no longer indulge this fiction."
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