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    I see the Phenomenon as being of the nature of Paul Levy's Wetiko. It is a hateful mind virus whispering Evil (LIVE backwards). EVIL is certainly within us. It must beintegrated in our own being.

    Levy is focused on quantum physics as a kind of terma to help us understand the dream like quality of our lives. My thought is that when one moves awareness to the heart and when we connect to God, we can look at all the spins and experience our own kind of life in which Wetiko cannot bend our minds. Information is for the mind. Experience is for the BODY. We somehow have to connect the way what we think and our POV (observation) as creating "reality" is an endless series of thought forms which is of the Matterium. You are participating and IMO taking the point of awareness to the heart enables us to "be in the world (dream) but not of the world". I like what levy thinks about creativity and IMO we are at a place where we must IMAGINE what we choose to be observed in the matterium of which we are enmeshed. It is so easy when you are IN your spirit rope where THERE it is you and God BEFORE any manifested experience. It is really FULL and without need so manifestation MUST be that.


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    I'm currently on Josh Del Sol's email list. Today, he sent a quite personal message. Much of it confirms why I've never been much of a 'fan' but in the section I'm quoting here he seems to have broken through the key delusion that most people, especially successful intellectuals, never seem to manage to do in anything more than a passing theoretical glimpse, from time to time, at best. As of yet, Josh is still not walking the talk, either.


    I was quite surprised and pleased to read these words from him today.

    Quote It isn't that we never do the good things on the right, it's that the things on the left are easier in the short-term... so without a code or a vision rooted in our Core, we tend to increasingly gravitate to doing life in that "left mode."

    The essence of our upside-down world, aka clown world, is that these tendencies become defaults. It may be better described as backwards world, or “living in reverse”. (And “live” backwards happens to spell “evil”.)

    We have all become indoctrinated in some degree, to do life this way. It’s because when we live this way we are controllable, and we fuel upside-down world by giving it tons of power and energy.

    Control through energy-harvesting seems to have become the driving motive behind the invasion of media and technology into every corner of our lives.

    Consequently, our lives and connections have become shallow and lacking in meaning — in direct proportion to how much we are living “backwards” rather than forwards.

    Our responsibility in this experience is essentially that we have been implicitly or explicitly agreeing with a control agenda aimed at stopping original creation happening through us.

    He flips from saying upside down to backwards and forwards, which shows a fuzziness of his grasp of what he's talking about. Later in the letter he drifts completely away into conceptualisations that come right out of New Age ism.

    In the bolded part, he hits the nail right on the head. In New Age ism people waffle on in multiple ways about how we are energy harvested or how we are forewarned in movies etc to shift 'Karma' away from 'them' onto us, bla bla bla, the mugs and sheeple. No it's simpler and plainer than that. They keep us living our lives upside down. The rest is automatic.
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    Default Re: Ex Witch/Channeller/Shaman Saved by Jesus

    My religious / spiritual path had many curves and several forks in it. I'll spare you the path for now after all these struggles and challenges. Well, strike that, I will give you a quick summary.

    Brought up Catholic - 197o's-1993. Distanced myself from it as a young adult due to personal conflicts and exposure to options - 1993-2oo8. Tried an alternative christian denomination - 2oo8-2o1o. Distanced myself from that. Tried Deism - 2o1o-2o16. Found it without much of an anchor - no symbols nothing to hold on to - just a fundamental belief in God and nothing else.

    What I ended up with was ancient solitary witchcraft since 2o16. [Not involved in a coven and do not wish to be.]

    The thing about a solitary type of spirituality is no one else can interfere with your spirituality. Not one single person on the planet. The sky therefore is the limit. A solitaire is in complete control and it is expressively personal. Because of this feature, I find that in its personal nature, I generally keep it to myself. But this topic is quite compelling and I wished to offer a perspective of changing from actual religion to witchcraft.

    My decisions were based on the conflicts of the Catholic church and the inconsistencies with the message and the actions of its leaders. From a young age I realized that something was wrong but I had to follow through because that is what my family did - notwithstanding 8 years of parochial school on top of it. Until I left home. When I was in Navy boot camp in the summer of 1993, we marched to service every Sunday, and every time it was a different service to accommodate the variety of belief systems prevailing. As a young Catholic, all I had known were about Catholics and barely seeing a synagogue a couple times, I knew about Judaism from the Catholic teachings but never was exposed to a service. This experience in the Navy really opened my eyes as to the many different faiths and how ignorant I was of them.

    My distancing from 1993-2oo8 is a long time. In 1997 I married a Christian lady. She was Lutheran. In 2oo4 when my dear daughter arrived, wife pressed me to make a decision to get her baptised [so she could go to heaven if anything bad happened in her youth, like an accident or something.] I held off for a year. I was torn. Should she be Catholic or Lutheran? I wasn't a practicing Catholic. In 2oo5 when she was 1 year old, I caved and she was baptised as a Lutheran. [Wife wasn't practicing either.]

    So in 2o16 I was struggling hard with being a Deist after 6 years. I thought at first it was a good decision. Remove religion and believe in God. But once you do that, there is nothing else left to do. Ok, so you believe in God. Now what?

    So I was searching again. And found some answers. I find that I can have some tangible and intangible aspects to my 'faith' if you are so compelled to refer to it as such. With over 3,ooo years of historical perspective and the liberty to engage or disengage at will. To make it your own. I have basically carved my own personal spirituality with the influences I prefer less the nuances I do not.

    So the result is a different appreciation of life; one that is rich in a niche but very old history. Have I escaped the clutches of fears dogmatic religions impose? I think to a point. Witchcraft is not without its trials but there is a peacefulness espoused in the basics of nature which is the actual root of witchcraft. The natural world contributes to much of the symbology. This is where the tangible and intangible meet.

    I am happy and I no longer have the emptiness from those years of Deism. Just like they say, do what makes you happy. That would be the only advice I would be fit to give.
    Let everything happen to you - Beauty and terror - Just keep going - No feeling is final. - Rainer M. Rilke

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    One obvious example is reincarnation. I believe in it pretty strongly. I don't want to be a buffet style Catholic, picking and choosing as I please, and yet there's some clear conflicts there.
    There should be no conflict regarding reincarnation. Prior to Second Church Council - it was a part of Christian doctrine in a way.
    In my view it would be better option to take from Christian doctrine parts which early Christians / Gnostics taught.
    They had a good understanding in Archonic influences which is completely ignored in the official doctrine today

    It is believed that in 553 A.D. during the Second Council of Constantinople the idea of reincarnation was found to have no place in the Christian Church. Although reincarnation was not officially rejected at this council, those early Church Fathers who were accused of teaching the idea of reincarnation had their works banned. 553 A.D. did mark the end of the debate on reincarnation within the Christian community.
    https://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/his...ticle/view/578
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    Is every mind connected to form a peer to peer network that creates the illusion of a shared reality, making the appearance of material reality a simulation created through shared beliefs?

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    Default Re: Ex Witch/Channeller/Shaman Saved by Jesus

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    One obvious example is reincarnation. I believe in it pretty strongly. I don't want to be a buffet style Catholic, picking and choosing as I please, and yet there's some clear conflicts there.
    There should be no conflict regarding reincarnation. Prior to Second Church Council - it was a part of Christian doctrine in a way.
    In my view it would be better option to take from Christian doctrine parts which early Christians / Gnostics taught.
    They had a good understanding in Archonic influences which is completely ignored in the official doctrine today

    It is believed that in 553 A.D. during the Second Council of Constantinople the idea of reincarnation was found to have no place in the Christian Church. Although reincarnation was not officially rejected at this council, those early Church Fathers who were accused of teaching the idea of reincarnation had their works banned. 553 A.D. did mark the end of the debate on reincarnation within the Christian community.
    https://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/his...ticle/view/578
    Thanks! Yeah I'm just sort of discovering all this. Appreciate the link.

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