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    Iran / #Israel 🇮🇷🇮🇱: Israeli "Surface-To-Air Missile System" interceptor has struck the city of #TelAviv again.

    Possible #Israeli 🇮🇱 "Arrow-3" or #USA-made 🇺🇸 "THAAD" (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) missile reportedly caused another self-hit —3 days in a row!

    https://x.com/war_noir/status/1935096963810099647

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    Quote Posted by Kryztian (here)
    Israel is refusing to let Americans with dual citizenship leave the country. Here's the devil's logic of this according to Breaking Points.
    1. Israel attacks Iran.

    2. Iran counter attack Israel.

    3. Some Americans trapped in Israel, die in the attacks.

    4. Israel cries "Look, Iran killed Americans."

    5. Israel escalate war against Iran.

    Netanyahu keeps telling everyone that Trump is fully on board with everything that Israel is doing.
    I think he's doing this because he wants to draw America in or possibly to cause an attack against American civilian or military assets across the globe.
    It's so difficult to figure out the game that's being played right now.

    I just don't see America wanting to go to war against Iran, I think they're probably hoping for some other kind of outcome.
    The American and Western economy and military are in a poor state, and starting a potential world war is likely going to go badly for the West because their political classes are increasingly hated, especially by the youth.

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    Tulsi Gabbard, the US head of Homeland Security, told Donald Trump that she would resign if he dragged the country into a war between Israel and Iran.

    https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status...85527742427526

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    I recalled reading this at some point well into the past and found it and wish to share it here. It gives insight into the attitude of Netanyahu and his views towards the united states.

    Quote After his first meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in 1996, Bill Clinton vented his fury before his staff about his visitor’s apparent presumptions about the balance of power in the bilateral relationship. “Who the f**k does he think he is?,” Clinton reportedly bellowed. “Who’s the f**king superpower here?” Twenty-seven years later, another American president should be asking himself the same question about the very same Bibi Netanyahu and the country he leads. - https://responsiblestatecraft.org/biden-israel-gaza

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    🇮🇷⚔️🇮🇱 New wave of ballistic missile launches from Iran towards Israel.

    Missiles targeting northern Israel.

    https://x.com/dana916/status/1935104104734347611



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    PIERS MORGAN vs. GEORGE GALLOWAY: HEATED CLASH OVER IRAN, ISRAEL & NUKES
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    "In a fiery exchange on Piers Morgan Uncensored, George Galloway didn’t hold back as he grilled Morgan over his interview with former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett—accusing him of ignoring critical issues like Israel’s nuclear arsenal and the bombing of an Iranian state TV station".

    The reason for George's wrath is his concern for Professor Marandi, who was in the building which has just been bombed. You may be aware that Professor Marandi is a frequent guest on George's MOATS programme. I do hope he's OK, although he said on his last appearance on the show that he was a target.
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    Tulsi Gabbard, the US head of Homeland Security, told Donald Trump that she would resign if he dragged the country into a war between Israel and Iran.

    https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status...85527742427526

    How do we know this is even true? There's no sources and I can't find anything else about her saying this anywhere.
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    Israeli strikes on Iran are illegal and pose unacceptable risks to international security.

    Russian Foreign Ministry

    https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1935048639862260019

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    Some pictures of Tel Aviv and Haifa. They are beginning to look a lot like a lot of other Middle Eastern cities that Israel has bombed.

    Whether it is the destruction you see is in Tehran, Gaza, Damascus, Beirut or Tel Aviv or Haifa, there is all one root cause of it: the Zionism of the Likud Party of Benjamin Netanyahu and their affiliates.



























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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    Tulsi Gabbard, the US head of Homeland Security, told Donald Trump that she would resign if he dragged the country into a war between Israel and Iran.

    https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status...85527742427526

    How do we know this is even true? There's no sources and I can't find anything else about her saying this anywhere.
    You’re right no source, Not true, Thank you SilentFeathers!
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    The Israeli occupation has issued a threat targeting an industrial area in #Tehran’s District 18, near Mehrabad Airport.

    This comes as "Israel" continues its aggression against #Iran, striking the country's nuclear and military facilities, as well as civilian infrastructure and residential areas, and killing and injuring civilians.

    https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status...10787380703639

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    #AlMayadeen’s correspondent in #Tehran reported that Iranian air defenses are confronting intensive Israeli targets over the skies of #Mashhad.

    Our correspondent also reported that explosions were heard in the Piroozi, Sabalan, and Sayyad districts of Tehran.

    https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status...15430584271138

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    JUST IN - Trump not expected to speak tonight, White House calls a lid.

    https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1935106845942677648

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    Trump Shares Private Text From Mike Huckabee That Compared Iran Situation To Truman in 1945

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    President Trump on Tuesday shared a private text message from US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee that compared the president’s decision related to Iran with President Truman’s situation in 1945, the year he dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan.

    Huckabee, a Christian Zionist who believes God gave historic Palestine to the modern state of Israel — a view that’s rejected by the majority of Christian denominations — told the president that he believes God “spared” him for this moment.

    “God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century—maybe ever. The decisions on your shoulders I would not want to be made by anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you Sir, but there is only ONE voice that matters. HIS voice,” Huckabee wrote.

    https://x.com/KyleAnzalone_/status/1935113265635336624



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    Trump Shares Private Text From Mike Huckabee That Compared Iran Situation To Truman in 1945
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    President Trump on Tuesday shared a private text message from US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee that compared the president’s decision related to Iran with President Truman’s situation in 1945, the year he dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan.

    Huckabee, a Christian Zionist who believes God gave historic Palestine to the modern state of Israel — a view that’s rejected by the majority of Christian denominations — told the president that he believes God “spared” him for this moment.

    “God spared you in Butler, PA to be the most consequential President in a century—maybe ever. The decisions on your shoulders I would not want to be made by anyone else. You have many voices speaking to you Sir, but there is only ONE voice that matters. HIS voice,” Huckabee wrote.

    “I am your appointed servant in this land and am available for you but I do not try to get in your presence often because I trust your instincts. No President in my lifetime has been in a position like yours. Not since Truman in 1945. I don’t reach out to persuade you. Only to encourage you,” the US ambassador added.

    Huckabee continued, “I believe you will hear from heaven and that voice is far more important than mine or ANYONE else’s. You sent me to Israel to be your eyes, ears and voice and to make sure our flag flies above our embassy. My job is to be the last one to leave. I will not abandon this post. Our flag will NOT come down! You did not seek this moment. This moment sought YOU!”

    Since being appointed ambassador, Huckabee has approached the issue of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory through the lens of his radical religious views. He has said he believes the US is no longer pursuing a two-state solution and suggested a Palestinian state could be carved out of a “Muslim” country.

    “Does it have to be in Judea and Samaria?” Huckabee said in an interview with Bloomberg last week, using the Biblical name for the West Bank.
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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    A conversation between analyst Brian Berletic and Alexander Mercouris of The Duran. A few key snip-its of Berletic's words:

    "This was inevitable. It was inevitable, and it was something that has been planned out for at least the entirety of the 21st century--the last 25 years, plus. The U.S. has been preparing the battlefield for this very war. And, you're correct, it has gone from one administration to the next, to the next, including all four years of the first Trump administration, preparing the ground for this eventual war.

    And you have to ask ourselves 'Why now?' And, I believe the reason why, and I think we've all taken turns talking about this, the U.S. is trying to reassert unipolar hegemony over the planet. And we see it an emerging multi-polar world. They know time is working against them. They know that one year from now, five years from now, ten years from now, all of these nations the U.S. is trying to encircle and contain, they will be stronger, and the U.S. will be weaker relative to them. So, they picked the time where things lined up as well as they could, and now they've pulled the trigger."

    (In talking about a 2009 Brookings Institute paper 'The Path to Persia'(?)):
    "They talked about how they would use negotiations as cover to distance themselves. From an attack by Israel the U.S. would fully enable. It really is a U.S. attack carried out through Israel; the type of weapons, and tactics and strategies used by Israel would only be possible with the complete involvement of the United States.

    They would have Israel carry this out on America's behalf, and then the plan was always to wade in afterwards having attempted to do negotiations and then claim to the world, 'Well, we tried diplomacy, we were left with no choice. Israel is our ally and we have to defend our ally.'"

    "But, it's not President Trump. It's not his administration. This was always going to happen. He just happens to be the... I say he's more or less a puppet sitting in the chair as this all plays out. And it would have happened whether it's him, or Kamala Harris, or anyone else."


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    • Piers Morgan Vs. George Galloway: Heated Clash Over Iran, Israel & Nukes:

    In a fiery exchange on Piers Morgan Uncensored, George Galloway didn’t hold back as he grilled Morgan over his interview with former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett—accusing him of ignoring critical issues like Israel’s nuclear arsenal and the bombing of an Iranian state TV station.
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    Quote Posted by Rizotto (here)
    Shaberon, you're making a good point. What if the USA military stationed in the middle-east just stood down and refused to fight for Israel's benefit.

    I'm just repeating what the commanders have said.

    Any U. S. engagement with peer rivals will result in annihilation, of the Americans.

    That's 50,000 or so units in some eleven bases, and, so far, they have done a lot of standing down. Should they choose to act, let them try.

    There won't be anything to label a terrorist state. It will be under the subject "history".

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    Quote The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) announced on Tuesday that it has successfully targeted two of the Israeli enemy’s most sensitive intelligence centers: the Military Intelligence Directorate, known as “Aman,” and a key Mossad operational planning facility, both located in the occupied city of “Tel Aviv.”

    In its eighth official statement under Operation True Promise 3, the IRGC confirmed that its Aerospace Force executed the precision strike despite the Israeli occupation’s heavily fortified air defense systems. The attack was described as highly effective and part of a broader escalation in response to ongoing Israeli aggression.

    Largest Missile Barrage Yet Hits Israeli Territory

    Early Tuesday, Iran launched a new salvo of ballistic missiles toward Israeli targets. According to Israel’s Channel 12, the latest attack included more than 20 missiles—the largest barrage to date—prompting widespread alarm within Israel’s security establishment.

    Iranian defense sources announced the killing of a large number of officers and senior commanders in the Zionist entity’s intelligence services.

    Israeli media acknowledged that the scale and precision of the strike surpassed previous rounds, underscoring Iran’s growing capability to sustain high-volume missile launches.

    Several settlers were reported injured, with emergency crews searching for survivors under the rubble of a building destroyed in the greater “Tel Aviv” area.

    Censorship was swiftly imposed on details surrounding another major strike in the Glilot area, believed to be home to a logistics hub for Israeli military intelligence.

    Photos circulated by Israeli outlets appeared to show the destruction of a large warehouse used for logistical operations linked to Aman.

    The Israeli Fire and Rescue Authority reported eight fires across the central regions of Hasharon, Kfar Saba, and Dan following missile debris impacts. At least 20 fire teams were deployed across affected zones.

    Missile strikes were confirmed at five separate locations within greater Tel Aviv, with multiple explosions heard across Israeli settlements. Tel Aviv alone experienced five distinct blasts, while neighboring Ramat Hasharon also reported intense detonations.

    In Herzliya, northwest of “Tel Aviv,” a sensitive target was reportedly struck directly, resulting in the destruction of a building and damage to several buses, which caught fire after being hit.

    A separate missile landed in an open area in Gush Dan, while additional Iranian projectiles struck parts of southern occupied Palestine.

    Israeli outlets noted that this round of missile launches was focused heavily on central and southern areas, including Be’er Sheva and Haifa. Air raid sirens were activated across a wide swath of the occupied territories, signaling the growing reach and coordination of Iran’s ongoing military response.

    The Glilot base, one of the Israeli enemy’s most critical intelligence installations, hosts operational units from the Military Intelligence Directorate (Aman), including elements of Unit 8200—the elite division responsible for electronic surveillance, code-breaking, and signal interception.

    Earlier aerial footage released by Lebanon’s Hezbollah, captured by “Hudhud”-class reconnaissance drones, revealed detailed surveillance of the Glilot facility.

    Iranian Commanders Affirm Strike Will Continue

    Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi, senior advisor to the IRGC Commander, downplayed any concerns over the length of the conflict. Speaking to local media, he said Iran’s new-generation missiles represent only a fraction of the country’s advanced military capabilities.

    “We will deploy our advanced equipment whenever we deem it necessary,” Vahidi stated. “The notion that our missile stockpile is depleting is laughable. We have not yet employed our strategic arsenal.”

    Meanwhile, Commander of the Iranian Army’s Ground Forces, General Kioumars Heydari, announced that hundreds of additional drones are poised to strike strategic Israeli sites. He warned that Iran’s offensive operations would intensify in the coming hours.


    Iran has no need of nuclear weapons or inter-continental missiles. *This* is what they do. And, it was only a touch of deterrence with first-generation Fattehs. Giving the settlers a chance to expatriate, as you see, that won't happen very easily. Oh well.

    Our commander-in-chief simply needs to be impeached on prior grounds. Who cares what he says? No one like that should be allowed anywhere near military options. As soon as you enter as a belligerent, that would constitute starting a "world war". He did say "does not want to be involved with the obvious", which is that. And yes, generally speaking, wars are the provenance of Congress, not of individual rich, egotistical maniacs. And, of course, there won't be any equipment at those sites. You'd use six "bunker busters" against a vacancy.

    Any kind of offensive move here would be very Stupid, which is what we have come to expect. You remember the cruise missiles he wasted on Syria and what a minor Iranian shot did. Don't flinch, you have a really big graveyard to reap as reward.

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