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    Source: RussiaNews on X

    PUTIN REVEALS THE NIGHTMARE: Iran more united than ever — Israel faces a strategic dilemma

    Here’s a powerful breakdown of Putin’s remarks on the Iran-Israel war — sharp, structured, and direct:

    ISRAEL FAILED to destabilize Iran.

    “IRANIAN SOCIETY IS CONSOLIDATING around its leadership.”

    Underground nuclear facilities remain INTACT.

    “We’re in DIRECT CONTACT with Netanyahu and Trump.”

    Russia will GUARANTEE both Iran’s peaceful nuclear future AND Israel’s security.

    “Bushehr was COMPLETED by Russia — and TWO more units are coming.”

    200+ Russian engineers are now in Iran — and Israel agreed to SECURE them.

    “We TRUST Iran and will support peaceful nuclear technology — in AGRICULTURE, MEDICINE, and ENERGY.”

    A PEACEFUL SOLUTION EXISTS — but the final choice lies with IRAN and ISRAEL.

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    Iran-Israel; Missile stockpiles and air superiority
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    A fairly short video about stocks of weaponry, where it is and how it might be deployed. Alexander said there's a massive amount of misinformation and propaganda from both Israel and Iran, who are now tightening up on media control. I've heard this in other videos too, About time, imo, although it leaves the rest of us in the dark.
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    Quote Posted by grapevine (here)
    Alexander said there's a massive amount of misinformation and propaganda from both Israel and Iran, who are now tightening up on media control. I've heard this in other videos too, About time, imo, although it leaves the rest of us in the dark.
    That's why I posted this yesterday....

    Quote I wonder where "The Demons That Be" will steer our minds to next to cause the Iran war to be nothing more than a distant thought?

    China and Taiwan?????
    They are about to black out everything so we don't know what's going on. Everyone has a cell phone, they just need an internet connection.

    Hopefully they won't be able to completely shut the world out to this disaster.
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    UNUSUAL LEAK that shakes the WEST and delights the EAST:

    Not CGI, not AI—this is real footage Tel Aviv tried to hide… and now it’s out!

    The moment of Iran’s missile STRIKE on Tel Aviv: a barrage tears through the sky, one missile hits its mark, a massive explosion rocks the city, a fireball engulfs the site—and the defenses fail miserably!

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    • Trump's Next Move in Israel-Iran War: Scott Ritter Interview:
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    Eva Bartlett - She Lived in Gaza for Three Years
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    Show notes
    In this discussion, journalist Eva Bartlett shares her experiences from three years in Gaza and her time in Syria. She describes the harsh realities of life under siege, the impact of Western media narratives, and the broader context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Bartlett highlights the resilience of the Palestinian people and questions Israel’s expansionist goals, while also exploring the complex relationship between the US and Israel. Her insights shed light on the ongoing humanitarian crisis and the vital role of on-the-ground journalism.

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    • Sen. Rand Paul says ‘it’s not the U.S.’s job to be involved’ in Israel-Iran conflict: Full interview:

    In an exclusive interview with Meet the Press, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) pushes back on some of his Republican colleagues who are arguing for the United States to support Israel militarily in attacking Iran after the two countries exchanged airstrikes.
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    Copying this post by Houman on his thread on 19 April last year (2024), with my red emphasis added. Do watch the short video.

    Quote Posted by Houman (here)
    Quote Prophecy: When Israel Hits Iran’s Nuclear Facilities…
    Fr. Peter Heers discusses the role of Israel, Iran, and Turkey in the context of prophecies from modern Orthodox saints.


    Full interview at
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    Quote Posted by thirtythree (here)
    TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian described an unconditional cessation of Israeli aggression against Iran as the only solution to end the imposed war.


    Oh what a mixed bag.

    It's not a war if surrender is not the result.

    It's a stoppable action.

    There's nothing about the removal of the country or anything to that effect. It is possible that "de-militarized" is cloaked in what he considers "guarantees" of non-aggression. It would have to be, or he just asked to get bluffed again. Not thinking that to be likely, I am a bit surprised he gave it any chance of survival, and the future depends on whatever satisfies the vaguely-worded requirement. I would think it sounds like complete disarmament, rather than a Lebanon-style accord from the U. N., but for the moment all we can say is that complete destruction was not the first thing to come up.



    Meanwhile, symbolic resistance from France:

    Quote At the French port of Marseille, dock workers have taken a stand. Three containers have caught their attention; inside metal parts intended for the assembly of cartridges for machine guns, bound for Israel.

    Thanks to the comrades at BDS, we were able to get information about the shipments, because everything is covered up.

    To give you an idea, the containers carrying those weapons, which are manufactured in Marseille, were registered in Toulouse, as if they were departing from there to deceive the enemy.

    And the enemy is us.

    And even on the containers, there was no mention of munitions, nothing indicating they were dangerous, which is legally required.

    On the contrary, there were neutral labels and markings which made them very hard to find.

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    Some of today's wires:



    Iranian Defense Ministry says all facilities continue to operate strongly despite the ongoing Israeli attacks: Mehr news agency

    Shipping giant Maersk temporarily suspends vessel calls at Haifa port due to risk of Iranian missiles

    Entire Zionist entity under missile attacks: Israeli media reports direct hits in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Galilee and southern occupied territories

    Israeli media: “In one moment, entire Israel went to shelters”

    Extensive damage in central ‘Israel’: Fire and rescue services in the Zionist entity

    Israeli newspaper Maariv wonders: Are we witnessing a complete collapse of Israeli defense system in face of Iranian missiles?


    Yes. It's too expensive:

    Quote According to Israeli economic advisers, Israel has been spending more than 2.75 billion shekels ($725 million) per day on direct military operations against Iran. Just jet fuel and armaments require a cost of almost $300 million each day.

    The Israeli Air Force has been actively launching F-35 fighter jets across distances exceeding 1,000 miles, costing roughly $10,000 per hour of flight.

    In terms of air defenses, David’s Sling is one of Israeli key defense systems that intercepts short-to-medium range missiles and drones at a cost of approximately $700,000 per intercept, typically using two missiles per launch.

    Meanwhile, “Arrow 3” system, operating beyond the atmosphere to counter long-range ballistic missiles, costs about 4$ million per interception. Its predecessor, “Arrow 2,” designed for in-atmosphere interception, costs roughly $3 million per missile.

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    Haifa:





    Quote Despite the sweeping censorship on publication of images related to Iran's retaliatory operations, some videos were shared online showing plumes of smoke billowing up in the air at the Haifa port after one of the missiles made a direct impact there.

    The port city is wearing a deserted look amid the downpour of Iranian missiles, which have been evading multiple layers of Israeli defense systems to hit the intended targets.

    The barrage of Iranian long-range missiles, some of them being used for the first time, also hit military targets in other parts of the occupied territories on Friday.

    On Friday, in the skies of the northern occupied Palestine, a Shahid-136 drone was also spotted making a flight quietly without being intercepted.

    The headquarters of the Zionist propaganda outlet, Channel 14, was also successfully targeted on Friday after the prior evacuation warning issued by the IRGC.

    Smaller number, around 25 newer and heavier weapons used.

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    I know it’s awful for those on the ground, but after watching the crimes ‘Israel’ are performing daily in this world, a taste of their own medicine is very very welcome. In fact, annihilation crosses my mind at times, where we can surely have some sort of peace at last? 🙀🤞

    My ‘democratically’ elected government has not consented to perpetually support Israel, or anyone else. Especially the puppet Keir Starmer, whose allegiance is with his wife’s Israeli family, no way am I backing the Zionists, or funding them. Time for us to say NO to AIPAC bribery and corruption in our country. Charity begins at home!
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    🇮🇷🇪🇺 Senior diplomats from Britain, Germany, and France have arrived in Geneva to hold direct negotiations with Iran’s Foreign Minister.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1936087316092928246





    BREAKING: Assassination Attempt on Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi in Geneva

    He survived an assassination attempt this morning, according to Iranian media reports.

    How can they trust any good faith negotiations when they leak their locations and try to kill them.

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    [QUOTE=shaberon;1673467]Haifa:





    Quote On Friday, in the skies of the northern occupied Palestine, a Shahid-136 drone was also spotted making a flight quietly without being intercepted..
    Am I understanding this properly? ‘The dome’ is becoming ineffective now and so Palestinians can fire back? Wow, that’s something else if true … though so many Palestinians have been killed and I don’t know how much they have to be able to finally fight back… It didn’t occur to me that now the dome is compromised, and Israel is spreading itself and its resource very thin…. Palestinians can finally retaliate?
    I hope I’m not being naive in my thinking here?

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    Quote Posted by Bassplayer1 (here)
    Am I understanding this properly? ‘The dome’ is becoming ineffective now and so Palestinians can fire back? Wow, that’s something else if true … though so many Palestinians have been killed and I don’t know how much they have to be able to finally fight back… It didn’t occur to me that now the dome is compromised, and Israel is spreading itself and its resource very thin…. Palestinians can finally retaliate?
    I hope I’m not being naive in my thinking here?


    Well, that was an Iranian drone.

    But, carefully, yes, of course they are becoming more and more exposed to previously less-damaging shots fired by sources like Yemen or Iraqi Resistance, or even those inaccurate things in Hamas's stockpile.

    It doesn't grant the West Bank groups laissez-faire to walk out to Galilee with small arms, none of the locals have a "retaliatory" force, only an attempt to secure what's left of their areas. The game-changer on the ground would be Lebanese HZB, but, they have said nothing about new activity. The Palestinians themselves are still not in any shape to tackle the ZOF on their own.

    Two units have been withdrawn from Gaza, and yet it is still not in any "come back and take over" mode. Their goal was primarily to crack the Fascist government of Israel. This seems to be satisfactory to IRGC, who --taking a few shots at air bases as well -- have pushed it to Bunker-or-Nuremberg mode:



    Quote The statement affirmed that the wide-scale missile fire and precise strikes in Tel Aviv, Haifa, and Beersheba demonstrate that the offensive power of ballistic missiles continues to increase—until the regime’s criminal gang is fully punished.

    There is a chance that sanitization of that species will result in some normal-minded settlers being able to survive. Therefor, it would be accurate to speak of complete destruction of the entity, rather than extermination of all civilians.

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    Quote Posted by Ravenlocke (here)
    BREAKING: Assassination Attempt on Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi in Geneva

    He survived an assassination attempt this morning, according to Iranian media reports.


    Really? This is what the reports say:


    Life has come to a halt in the occupied territories as Israelis spend day and night in underground bomb shelters. Many Israelis are paying large sums of money to smugglers to take them to Greece and Cyprus by boat.



    That's not what's bothering him:


    Quote Speaking in Geneva on Friday, the top Iranian diplomat said that Iran has been subjected to an aggression that cannot be justified in any way, and the justification for the aggression is equal to complicity.

    "We were supposed to meet with the Americans on June 15 to reach a very promising agreement on our nuclear program" he said elsewhere in his remarks.

    He went on to say that attacking nuclear facilities are a major war crime, especially given the risk of environmental and public health disaster from the release of radiological material.

    "I stand before this prestigious institution to remind that every member and observer of the Human Rights Council has a legal and moral duty to stand against this great injustice. The Israeli regime has launched an unprovoked aggression against Iran, which is a clear violation of the fourth paragraph of Article 2 of the United Nations Charter and is a bold challenge against all the principles and rules on which this council is based."

    "This is an unjust war that has been imposed on my people since the morning of Friday, June 13; A war in which Israel has committed a series of illegal and criminal operations against non-commissioned military personnel, university professors and ordinary people."

    "Hundreds of my compatriots have been killed or injured following Israel's surprise attacks and terrorist operations against residential areas, public infrastructure, hospitals, medical centers, and even the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Our peaceful nuclear facilities have also been targeted; Even though they are under the full supervision of the International Atomic Energy Agency and even though attacks on such facilities are strictly prohibited under international law."

    He underlined that Iran, as one of the founding members of the United Nations system, rightly expects each UN member countries to stand by justice, the rule of law, and the fundamental principles of humanity and morality."Iran has been brutally invaded. This clear fact must not be allowed to be distorted by Israel and its supporters."

    Iran was attacked in the middle of a diplomatic process, he argued. "This action was a betrayal of diplomacy and an unprecedented blow to the foundation of international law and the UN system."

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    I remember when Trump v1.0 set up war hawk John Bolton, a member of his own cabinet at the time.




    This "2 weeks to think about it" leaves Benjamin Netanyahu (and Israel) in a bigger hole than Bolton was in.




    To hear even Lindsey Graham, another 'war hawk', questioning who's calling the war shots, gives me an impression that a planned set-up might be afoot.





    If so, how does Tulsi Gabbard feel about it ?

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    People are for the most part, predictable. [I mean the critics or arm-chair admirals.]

    Trump pausing for 2 weeks for a few reasons. 1. Not rushing to violent force. 2. Final, final notice for diplomacy. 3. Moving chess pieces [assets] in the theatre.

    But, if Trump didn't have a cooling off period, people would be losing their minds. Consequently, with a cooling off period, people are still losing their minds.

    Would this move to violence risk moving the world toward violent conflict? Possibly. One might argue we are long overdue for another World War. We were supposed to - learn from the past so as not to repeat it. But humanity just doesn't seem to get it. I am surprised that no one on the planet pulled the nuclear trigger after all these years since Japan was stunned into submission.

    But I do not think you can blame Trump given these worldly problems predate his involvement - even the first term. He may very well need to lead during war time. Will it be at the expense of his legacy? Possibly. But I might argue that people in these positions worried about a legacy is counter-productive to actual daily decision-making. In fact, to protect something that doesn't exist yet might very well be poor decision-making when the root of the endeavor is 'what is best for america...' not what is best for the holder of the office.

    I would also argue that modern warfare has diminished some of the courage of the warfighter - in that the endless stream of missiles and drones seem to lack the glory of past conflicts. Even a bit chicken-sht if I was to go that far. [Further, the accountability of sound strikes on only military targets. Which is lacking in action and accountability in the modern era.]

    Either way, america is in trouble. The past decades old track record of so called superior warfighting ability is overshadowed by decades of violent conflict losses. America is going to need to win in order to actually win. If you can understand what I mean by that. This hill - Israel - america is going to have to be willing to die on this hill. Which means fighting whomever else wants to help Iran.

    These decisions do not strike me a winning decisions. But the blame part - the blame does not rest with one single solitary person - but be that as it may, the fingers will all be pointing in one direction - as is easy to predict.

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    Israel always complains neighbors threaten its existence, when in fact Israel is the one posing an existential threat to us — Gamal Abdel Nasser, grandson of the Egyptian revolutionary leader

    Rick Sanchez adds — 'Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt... Iran, if it goes'

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