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    Default Re: Israel vs Palestine/Lebanon/Iran/Yemen/Syria: a New Middle East War

    One thing we should know by now, is that what Trump says has no reliable truth-value and is a deliberately distracting irrelevance, when compared with what actually happens.

    But, although I am unsure what has happened in terms of US bombing or Iraq; in a more general sense, it does matter what is being talked about in the public sphere. Because when previously-taboo things have been discussed in the media, in an accepting way - then they are normalized, accepted, and more likely to happen in future.

    I'm thinking of the way that the Western powers deliberate attempts at radioactive contamination of the environment have normalized the idea of eco-destruction as a political tool.

    In the past couple of years, NATO and its controlled-proxies (Ukraine, Israel etc) have used radioactive warheads ("depleted" uranium) in Ukraine (which is supposed to be an ally, and has presumably been contaminated).

    There have been multiple rocket, artillery and commando attacks on the biggest nuclear power station in Europe (Zaporizhzhia) - which if successful would presumably have led to massive radioactive contamination of a wide area (far worse than Chernobyl).

    There have been several evidenced reports from Russia of Ukr/ NATO preparing "dirty bombs" - i.e. conventional explosives surrounded by radioactive material, and specifically designed to cause environmental contamination.

    And now, in Iran, there have been (at some level of severity) direct NATO attacks on nuclear facilities, again with the outcomes of causing radioactive contamination.

    All this environmental terrorism would have been unthinkable 40 years ago - but has gone unnoticed and (I think) uncommented on by Western media and politicians. It was so far beyond acceptable, that only the most evil villains in Hollywood movies would try it - and it was unambiguous evidence of their extreme evilness.

    The regularity of these reports has normalized the whole matter of deliberate radioactive contamination, lowering the threshold of usage almost completely - at least, in the West. And I think it has made the use of nuclear weapons much more likely than ever before.


    (A similar case could be said about the massive and accelerating use of assassination by the West (including wholesale multiple assassinations) - including the bland acceptance of massive collateral damage to innocent bystanders. As with radioactive contamination - this corruption of geopolitical conduct has been Western led, and - so far - mostly or exclusively done by the West. Not so long ago, this practice was regarded in the West as as barbaric, vile, uncivilized, and counter-productive to good order - now, apparently, assassination of even the crudest and indiscriminate type is regarded perfectly reasonable, hardly noticed, and triggers no discussion or debate.)

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    Just a few observations from orbit.
    1. The US has lost all credibility as a reliable negotiator (with Iran, Russia, China, or anyone else).
    2. Iran will now 100% for sure develop a nuclear weapon. They could do so in a very short time. And several other nations will be motivated to do the same, as rapidly as possible.
    3. The START treaty has been bunker-busted (to use Pepe Escobar's words), as has the IAEA and the UN Charter.
    4. Israel has been shown to be very weak and vulnerable against a sustained attack from a peer military.
    5. Trump has done huge damage to MAGA, and will have to suddenly become very measured, wise, careful and diplomatic to regain his lost support base.
    6. Russia and China (and all of BRICS) emerge looking strong.
    7. All Iran had to do to 'win' the conflict was remain intact with no 'regime change'.
    8. (And of course, the fragile ceasefire may not hold at all.)
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    ⚡️🇺🇸JUST IN: U.S President Trump blasts AOC:

    “Stupid AOC……Go ahead and try Impeaching me, again, MAKE MY DAY”

    https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1937511289984569480

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    🇷🇺 Putin: The unprovoked aggression against Iran is completely unfounded and unjustifiable.

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1937389133137346652

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    C'mon guys, I'm using the word "Please" here.

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    Qatari Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mohammad bin Abdulrahman:

    "Everything happening in the region is an expansion of the conflict in Gaza. Our goal is to reach an end to the war and to lift the injustice from our brothers in Gaza. It is time for the world to take a united stand to put an end to Israel's actions and to stop the aggression against Gaza."

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    This is what the world has decided to normalize. This is what Palestinians have to go through just to receive aid and they are killed daily. Just today, 25 Palestinians were killed while trying to get aid.

    https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1937489942042566835

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    BREAKING: 🚨 Iran says no ceasefire deal was made. If Israel halts its aggression by 4 AM Tehran time, Iran will stop responding. Otherwise, the fight continues.

    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1937314961178403093

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    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1937422876623131109





    🚨⚡️Defense Minister Yisrael Katz:

    “In light of Iran’s complete violation of the ceasefire announced by the U.S. President, and in coordination with the Prime Minister, we will continue intensive operations to strike Tehran in order to thwart the Iranian regime’s objectives and terrorist infrastructure.”

    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1937423927418016245



    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1937430599901282680

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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    One thing we should know by now, is that what Trump says has no reliable truth-value and is a deliberately distracting irrelevance, when compared with what actually happens.

    But, although I am unsure what has happened in terms of US bombing or Iraq; in a more general sense, it does matter what is being talked about in the public sphere. Because when previously-taboo things have been discussed in the media, in an accepting way - then they are normalized, accepted, and more likely to happen in future.

    I'm thinking of the way that the Western powers deliberate attempts at radioactive contamination of the environment have normalized the idea of eco-destruction as a political tool.

    In the past couple of years, NATO and its controlled-proxies (Ukraine, Israel etc) have used radioactive warheads ("depleted" uranium) in Ukraine (which is supposed to be an ally, and has presumably been contaminated).

    There have been multiple rocket, artillery and commando attacks on the biggest nuclear power station in Europe (Zaporizhzhia) - which if successful would presumably have led to massive radioactive contamination of a wide area (far worse than Chernobyl).

    There have been several evidenced reports from Russia of Ukr/ NATO preparing "dirty bombs" - i.e. conventional explosives surrounded by radioactive material, and specifically designed to cause environmental contamination.

    And now, in Iran, there have been (at some level of severity) direct NATO attacks on nuclear facilities, again with the outcomes of causing radioactive contamination.

    All this environmental terrorism would have been unthinkable 40 years ago - but has gone unnoticed and (I think) uncommented on by Western media and politicians. It was so far beyond acceptable, that only the most evil villains in Hollywood movies would try it - and it was unambiguous evidence of their extreme evilness.

    The regularity of these reports has normalized the whole matter of deliberate radioactive contamination, lowering the threshold of usage almost completely - at least, in the West. And I think it has made the use of nuclear weapons much more likely than ever before.


    (A similar case could be said about the massive and accelerating use of assassination by the West (including wholesale multiple assassinations) - including the bland acceptance of massive collateral damage to innocent bystanders. As with radioactive contamination - this corruption of geopolitical conduct has been Western led, and - so far - mostly or exclusively done by the West. Not so long ago, this practice was regarded in the West as as barbaric, vile, uncivilized, and counter-productive to good order - now, apparently, assassination of even the crudest and indiscriminate type is regarded perfectly reasonable, hardly noticed, and triggers no discussion or debate.)
    Thank you Bruce Charlton for this so relevant posting.

    To me, who am a sort of foster father now at the end of my life, but have always kept parenthood far from me as I witnessed how the moral precepts I had been educated with and continued to educate myself with were being jettisoned by my contemporaries, it has become an inescapable conclusion that the wilful destruction of the earth, the population explosion (“have sex AND multiply”), the destruction of learning and knowledge (“believe only science AND be fanatically passionate”), the hatred for beauty (“ruin your body AND burn Rembrandt”), the oblivion of language (“speak only one half of only one AND thumb-type emojis”), the slaughter of men on the altar of Gaia, the disappearance of true love... have coincided, reinforced each other and in essence been desired by humans.

    Therefore what you describe is the personal ruin of each one of us. The evil of each one of us. The sin against the Holy Spirit. At best we have, all the while licking wounds inflicted by others, tried to awaken others to what was happening but also fought at keeping our conscience alive and regretting our own sins.

    At best – but at worst I stood by watching while a crown of thorns was being studded into the bat to sodomise a man to death with.

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    Trump is pretending and lying a lot... meanwhile in Gaza….
    After hearing so many time comments on Gaza by Mr. Gabor Maté a holocaust survivor and Mr. Toshiyuki Mimaki... a Hiroshima survivor... the only conclusion possible: Israel has managed to transform Gaza into a morphing of Auschwitz and Hiroshima combined....
    Both hells at the same time... since October 7 with increasing savagery...
    The death toll today is closer to 500.000 maybe 700.000... the Lancet report based on April 2024 numbers estimated... (low according to the publication) the death toll at around 180 thousand....
    That’s what US politicians finance with tax payers money....

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    It is becoming more apparent that the major players in the Middle East no longer share in Iran's struggle against Israel. Most Middle East leaders have embarked on a road that ensures their prosperity beyond oil. Saudi Arabia has launched Vision 2030, aiming to reduce dependence on oil by developing sectors like tourism, entertainment, mining, and technology. The Emirates has focused on sectors like finance, real estate, tourism, and innovation. The Emirates has also started initiatives such as Dubai’s Expo 2020 and the establishment of free zones to attract foreign investment. Qatar has vastly improved their infrastructure and moved into finance, sports and even tourism.

    Middle East leaders are conspicuously absent when it comes to condemning Trump's efforts towards peace. The Gulf states have shown that they are eager to improve relations with Israel. I think there will be some false starts and it will be a bumpy road, but it is only a matter of time before the Abrahams Accord is widely accepted in the Gulf.

    Iran's relationships with Russia and China are certainly not symbiotic. Russia is feeding the war machine, purchasing drones and other weapons, while China is opportunistically buying 90% of Iranian oil shipped are deep discounts due to sanctions.

    Iran was historically considered one of the most culturally and economically significant countries in the Middle East, but as of today, it has been relegated to a downtrodden, left-behind, insignificant country. Civil unrest in Iran is now insured, the only question is when it will occur.

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    This is a good signal that things might be calming down....

    Quote The IDF Home Front Command has lifted all restrictions on gatherings, schools, and workplaces, as the ceasefire with Iran appears to hold.

    The move comes following a fresh assessment.

    There will be no restrictions on gatherings in most areas of the country, workplaces can open, and schools may resume, Home Front Command says.


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    Last weekend Trump ordered the US military to strike three nuclear facilities in Iran. Was this the opening salvo of WWIII?

    Or was it just a brief exchange in a 12-day war?

    What does this mean?
    Why did it happen?
    And where do we go from here?
    Find out the details in this open source investigation of the ongoing conflict in Iran.

    Trump Bombs Iran


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    "Forget about Russia, the real threat to America is Israel and the Israel Lobby." - Julian Assange

    Interesting video below.. we all know... what kind of criminals are having the big words in this administration.... here and there I am listening Ben Norton too... he is also very talented young man... I like him!


    Palantir CEO predicted US war on Iran, Russia, and China




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    The US military will "very likely" fight a three-way war with Iran, Russia, and China, predicted Palantir CEO Alex Karp in 2024. American imperial strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski warned back in the 1990s of this Eurasian "anti-hegemonic coalition" that could challenge US global dominance. Ben Norton explains.

    Topics
    0:00 Trump bombs Iran
    0:26 Iran hits US base in retaliation
    1:21 A ceasefire?
    1:53 US "peace talks" were a trap
    2:07 Israel's fake Gaza "ceasefire"
    2:53 Iran nuclear deal
    3:40 Trump called for regime change
    4:30 History of US coup, shah, & revolution
    5:23 Geopolitical strategy
    6:01 Palantir CEO predicted three-way war
    6:41 Palantir's mass surveillance
    7:05 CIA helped create Palantir
    7:17 JD Vance and Peter Thiel
    7:52 US calls for war on Iran
    8:21 (CLIP) George Bush's "Axis of Evil"
    8:44 John McCain wanted to bomb Iran
    9:04 (CLIP) Senator McCain sings "bomb Iran"
    9:11 John Bolton called to bomb Iran
    9:45 Mike Pompeo wanted war on Iran
    10:20 Trump backed war on Iran
    10:49 Targets: Iran, Russia, and China
    11:02 CRINK: new "Axis of Evil" rhetoric
    11:42 Multipolarity challenges unipolar US empire
    12:17 Rise of China
    12:51 Brzezinski feared "anti-hegemonic coalition"
    14:16 Palantir and US war plans
    14:48 US-Israeli war on Iran
    15:55 Iran fights back
    16:50 Outro

    =====

    Here is also latest talk by prof. Jefrey Sachs... in Braking Points... nice for them/Kristal and Saagar/ to have him in their platform...


    Jeffrey Sachs: How Israel Will SABOTAGE Ceasefire

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    Here you go bojancan, this one is for you, enjoy

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    I can't tell whether there is a ceasefire or not a ceasefire. I guess there must be because my Palestinian friends tell me Israel is celebrating victory and Iran is celebrating victory....dates set for celebrations.
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    Brian Berletic's lucid analysis starts with 'Trump is repeatedly lying'.

    My personal note: Everybody here, please remember that there's a whole apparatus propping Trump's dramatic outbursts to distract you from facing the fact that Trump is a deliberate serial liar. The Trump flip-flop theatre is what keeps the MAGAs still hoping (against all evidence) that peace will eventually break out. Remember: it's all a big distraction. Your tax dollars are still used right now for the military industrial complex criminal enterprises and Israel's genocides. All with Trump's approval.
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    ▪️After repeatedly lying to Iran, attacking it amid negotiations designed specifically to lure it into complacency, then announcing a 2 week deadline to decide on strikes on Iran that took place hours later, US President Trump is claiming a ceasefire was agreed to;

    ▪️Iran would need to be beyond naive to accept or trust any word or action by the US - the US has not spent decades trying to topple Iran amid its regional murder spree to suddenly abandon it - its ENTIRE global aspirations hinge on it - it has used Israel as a conduit to launder its war crimes & provocations through & will continue to;

    ▪️To effect regime change, the US would benefit most by luring Iranian leaders out of cover & striking them, provoking retaliations & further war;

    ▪️Iran requires not a "Libya model," but a "North Korea model" or else this process will repeat itself until it concludes in Washington and Wall Street's favor;

    ▪️The same "experts" who failed to see this war coming in the first place are now citing 5D chess strategies to explain how the Trump administration somehow averted a war entirely of its (and the establishment it serves) own creation and design to begin with;

    ▪️The US will only stop when (1) people stop falling for this through excessive delusion, and (2) the rest of the world unites to force the US to stop;

    ▪️If a genuine ceasefire is reached, it will likely have been the work of Russia and China quietly forcing the US to, through private but sufficient threats coupled with a graceful public exit ramp - though the chances of the US honoring it hover around 0%;

    Trump Lures Iran into “Peace” Trap (Again) - Continues Decades-Spanning Regime-Change Agenda

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    Mods, please delete this post. Video had already been posted above by someone else above.
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