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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)

    I listened to the first minute of this - it sounds fake. Also I do not trust 'The People's Voice' or the annoying monosyllabic Sean Hughes either; I am as certain can be this is clickbait.
    Avalon has a thread on the People's Voice and Sean Adl-Tabatabai, who bought the channel from David Icke, and and turned it into a manufacturing facility for pure unadulterated conspiracy garbage.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)

    I listened to the first minute of this - it sounds fake. Also I do not trust 'The People's Voice' or the annoying monosyllabic Sean Hughes either; I am as certain can be this is clickbait.
    Avalon has a thread on the People's Voice and Sean Adl-Tabatabai, who bought the channel from David Icke, and and turned it into a manufacturing facility for pure unadulterated conspiracy garbage.

    The Truth About Sean Adl-Tabatabai
    Of course! I actually (somehow) hadn't remembered that and thanks for the reminder.
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    I find this first and foremost, terrifying.

    It makes me think of Dr. Karla Turner when she was on Art Bell. She was asked by a caller how to facilitate and reawaken tampered memories concealing abduction.
    Turner told the caller to be careful what you asked for and to think twice before opening yourself to this.
    Art Bell then asked Karla what she thought the whole alien abduction think was all about.
    She sounded taken aback and started and then stopped like,,,, okay I'll give it to you.
    She said in her opinion, reptilians were abducting humans taking their soul out of their body and putting said soul into a newly identical cloned body and then eating the much more flavorful emotionally endowed recently vacated human body.
    We are a farm.
    The elites are practicing a cargo cult.
    They copy what their masters are doing.

    Such information would be sufficient to shock these folks and make such outlandish claims like none of this is real.

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    https://x.com/clif_high/status/1942215251484901510




    clif is antiselenite
    @clif_high

    So i know the probable unfolding of events for the Trumpitos the same way i am able to see these events nearly a year ahead of emergence.

    Last few days of "Location Unknown" and today's Tanker explosion/sunk were known, and labeled months back. This manifested.

    In mid-August a 'test' of the Trumpitos will emerge that they will fail miserably. It will be quite severe a blow to their political goals. They will see it developing then as i see it emerging now. It will stem from the Epstein list. The Trumpitos will feel this loss at a very deep level. There will be resignations, and a building trend of 'Drifting away'... an emotional abandonment of Trump, his goals, and his slavish service to Israel. In less than a year, the pundits will be pointing to August 2025 and say "here is where Trump's admin puked up it's liver and died politically'.

    Trump has made himself and his admin SO VULNERABLE by these Epstein decisions to support the lying jew intelligence services and Israel.

    Will
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    **** the Trumpitos in their ass-pirations by releasing the Epstein material? Hmmm....??? That's all it's going to take....





    https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1942215737566707893




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    Former mobster who was once in the same jail as Jeffrey Epstein claims there’s no way Epstein could’ve ki*led himself, calling it “physically impossible.”

    He says the cell had nothing on the ceiling to hang from, and even basic tasks like using the bathroom were done under constant surveillance.

    “Unless he was a magician,” he said, “there’s no way he pulled that off.”
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    Jeffrey Epstein: FBI ends investigation into Prince Andrew's links to paedophile
    US investigators have concluded that no charges will be brought against the Duke of York or any other high-profile associate of Jeffrey Epstein, sparking fury among victims

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...rince-35512096

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    another pov

    https://x.com/WarClandestine/status/1942270791636091214



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    So the usual clickbait rage peddlers have whipped themselves into a frenzy over an unverified Axios report, again.

    Also many are misrepresenting what is said in the alleged memo.

    Firstly, this memo does not look like anything official. No date, no signature. I’d advise waiting for something a little more concrete from the DOJ/FBI themselves, as Axios have proven they not only publish fake news regularly, but they are an arm of the Deep State that are actively trying to undermine and harm Trump’s Presidency by any means necessary. You’ll notice Axios chose to drop this right before the beginning of the weekly news cycle, right after Trump’s massive wins with Iran and the OBBB. They are trying to derail Trump’s momentum.

    Secondly, if we are assuming this memo is legitimate, the DOJ/FBI claim that they have mountains of evidence of Epstein engaged in criminal activity, but no credible evidence of any “clients”, and Epstein himself did not keep a “list”. That doesn’t mean that there were no clients, but there’s a big difference between being suspicious about something, and being able to prove it incontrovertibly in the court of law.

    Also, just because the Trump DOJ/FBI don’t currently have evidence of clients, does not mean that the evidence does not exist, or never existed. The pertinent evidence to clients could have been destroyed by the past DOJ/FBI leadership, it could still be hidden, it could be held at another intelligence agency (perhaps the CIA), or there is the possibility that it may never have existed and our assumptions/theories about Epstein’s honeypot operation were wrong.

    As for Epstein’s death, while the situation is extremely suspicious, what evidence do we have that someone else killed him? There’s currently zero evidence to suggest this scenario other than speculation. There was plenty of suspicion on the internet, and understandably so, but still zero proof.

    So in conclusion, it’s too early to conclude anything, wait for something more concrete from the DOJ/FBI, and just because the Trump DOJ/FBI don’t have something now, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or never existed.

    I’m just going to wait and see how it unfolds, and I advise everyone else to do the same.

    I am, once again, telling you that the sky is not falling.


    ColonelTowner-Watkins
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    This is a test, it is only a test.

    Did you pass the test or take the bait?

    Axios 'DOJ' memo: rinse, repeat.




    https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1942213597733548098




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    If she's not lying - just go with it here for a second - and she's not an idiot, what is she doing saying this on camera?

    Think REAL HARD.

    I know it's difficult for a lot of people.

    But try.

    Why would a fake memo be leaked 'from the FBI/DOJ' directly contradicting Bondi?

    Why would she come out herself and say this? Why leak a memo to the Fake News?

    If she's telling the truth on camera, then the unsigned/undated memo is FAKE. What reasons would someone have to leak that 'internal memo' to the Fake News?

    Why can't many of you even begin asking the right questions?

    Easily led sheep are always going to be easily led. It's their nature.

    They don't want to think, they want somebody to hand it to them, all nicely 'explained' with a little red bow on top.
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    "Tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children" x.com/X22Report/stat…
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    (however) I Have not watched the press conference to confirm for myself, but if so maybe Clif is right, and this is the beginning of a major hemorrhage in Trump admin support.

    https://x.com/catturd2/status/1942278416285278438




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    Karoline Leavitt just CONFIRMED the authenticity of the DOJ Epstein memo at the press briefing just now.
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    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1942282783902056621



    Well. The Epstein Cell footage, is missing exactly one minute. 👀

    It jumps from 11:58:59 to 12:00:00.





    https://x.com/catturd2/status/1942104157004992987

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    It is not hard to understand that the Democrats destroyed all the evidence regarding the Epstein murder and the client list before they left office. Epstein was a Democrat and a strong Democratic donor. Money was Epstein's entree into the rich, famous and powerful. Pelosi's daughter (see below) told us that favorite Democrats were about to be exposed, and before you could blink, Epstein was gone, and the client list went up in smoke.

    Nancy Pelosi's daughter was an important figure at the Democrat National Committee and when Epstein was arrested, she sent a strong public warning to all her fellow Democrats.
    Here is a June 7, 2022, article from the Political Insider.

    Pelosi’s Daughter Warns: Some of Our Favorite Politicians May Be Implicated in Epstein Case

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s daughter warned that the sex-trafficking case against politically connected financier Jeffrey Epstein could implicate “some of our faves.”

    Christine Pelosi, a DNC official, was referencing this weekend’s bombshell report that Epstein had been arrested in New York on new sex-trafficking charges involving allegations as far back as the early 2000s.

    Pelosi notes that lawmakers on either side of the aisle could get swept up in the “horrific” case.

    “This Epstein case is horrific and the young women deserve justice,” Pelosi tweeted. “It is quite likely that some of our faves are implicated but we must follow the facts and let the chips fall where they may – whether on Republicans or Democrats.”

    Epstein received an incredibly lenient plea deal over a decade ago after being accused of paying girls for sexual massages in Florida.

    According to Fox News, Epstein was sentenced at the time to “13 months in prison, required to settle with his then-teenage victims and register as a sex offender” even though he “faced life in prison.”

    He is expected to plead not guilty to the new charges.

    Source & full story: https://thepoliticalinsider.com/pelo...-epstein-case/

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    It crosses my mind that Trump said "we're leaving Israel for last"...only time will tell.

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    This doesn't surprise me that the whole Epstein thing is a "nothing-burger".

    They basically shut this whole thing down when they claimed Epstein killed himself. It doesn't matter even if Epstein is living today in secrecy somewhere, they shut "Him" (this case down).

    To expose this extremely demonic enterprise would break the minds of many, let alone likely to cause many of the worlds largest markets/economies and governments to severely fracture or completely to collapse. The evil elite will not destroy their own or their cash flows over a bunch of child sex slaves and child sacrifices. They will not destroy their parasitic and demonic food source so to speak.

    The truth likely is that when Bondi, Patel, Bongino, etc., finally did see most of the evidence, they puked and needed instant psychiatric treatment, and said, "Hell no, we can't release this information!". They probably actually seen video's of real demons participating right along side some of these famous and high profile elites sexual abusing, killing, and eating children.

    There really is such a thing as pure evil and demonic forces and entities. These demonic bastards will continue to hide these truths as long as they possibly can. Their time is running out in my opinion and they won't be able to keep things hidden much longer. That's why they want us all dead or extremely incapacitated, they fear us and what we are capable of doing to them if we do know the truth.

    Their day is coming and their end is near....
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    Quote Posted by wondering (here)
    It crosses my mind that Trump said "we're leaving Israel for last"...only time will tell.
    Don't think Trump has ever said that - Q post said "We are saving Israel for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time. Q"



    from
    https://prayingmedic.com/2025/06/13/...rael-for-last/

    We Are Saving Israel For Last

    Posted on June 13, 2025 at 5:21 pm by Praying Medic / blog, Israel, Q / 13 Comments
    This is an excerpt from my book Q Chronicles Book 4.

    In this chapter, we’ll examine one of Q’s most controversial messages. The post in question came in March of 2018 when President Trump faced accusations of colluding with Russia during the 2016 election. The drop by Q was in response to several other posts on a different but related subject. To understand the meaning of this post, we must frame it in the proper context. On March 7th, 2018, Q and the researchers on 8chan began discussing the role played by Edward Snowden.

    An anon posted the following message:




    ...

    In the next post, an anon asked about Israel and posted a screenshot from a news story about the indictment of Imran Awan.



    Q replied:



    Q’s response could be interpreted in several ways. Some believe Israel to be the most corrupt nation of all. The Israeli intelligence agency Mossad has been blamed for many of the world’s problems. Q’s comment “saving Israel for last” is then taken as confirmation that Israel is the most evil nation of all, and the disclosure of their corruption is being saved for last. It’s possible this is the correct interpretation, but we don’t know with certainty since Q never confirmed what he meant by this statement. I’d like to propose another possibility.

    The mainstream media heavily criticize Q’s operation. It appears this criticism was anticipated, and Q took precautions not to allow room for justifiable criticism by the press. This is evidenced in the way the media try to connect Q to acts of violence that, in fact, have nothing to do with Q. The press have criticized Q for posting on 4chan and 8chan— websites that the media claim are hangouts for neo-Nazis and anti-Semites. The Q team would have anticipated that the media would attack them over this issue. If they avoided discussing topics related to Israel, they could minimize accusations by the media that they harbor antisemitic or neo-Nazi views. If Q saved discussions of Israel until the end of the operation, at that point, the media’s opinions would not matter.

    When taken as a whole, Q’s posts suggest that Iran is the one nation that poses the greatest threat to our future. Q’s messages discuss in detail how American political figures helped Iran develop its covert nuclear weapons program. As we read in the last chapter, the goal of that program is to bring the world to the brink of nuclear war. Ironically, Q’s next post mentioning Israel was about the exposure of Iran’s covert nuclear weapons program. Let’s look at the posts leading to that disclosure.

    < more, including many posts about the Iran nuclear program, at link >


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    https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1942416253362032743




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    I have a lot of respect for anyone who stands up to serve our nation but when one does, you need to remember it is the American people you work for…

    This EPSTEIN AFFAIR is NOT going away!

    And an early lesson learned for everyone regarding this affair, ELITES don’t give a sh!t about children, you, or anyone for that matter. There are two standards of justice in our country. One for the elites (I include the uniparty in this club) and another standard for everyone else. Today was another brutal and stark example of the two different standards we appear to adhere to in the United States.

    This has to change and quickly.

    @realDonaldTrump
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    /////////////

    Michael Shellenberger

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    “This is a total ****ing disaster,” a senior person in the Intelligence Community told us today, in response to our questions about Justice Department's cover-up of the Epstein Files. "If people think this is going to go away," the official added, "I don’t see how it can.”
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

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    For the last decade, the media has called the idea that America is ruled by a secret government of deep state intelligence agencies like the CIA and FBI a "right-wing conspiracy theory." Journalists at outlets such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN, and NPR have portrayed claims about a “deep state” as paranoid fabrications pushed by Donald Trump and his supporters to discredit legitimate government institutions. They insisted that accusations of political bias or covert influence by agencies like the CIA or FBI had no basis in fact and served only to inflame public distrust.

    And yet over the same period, investigative reporting, including by the two of us, and official disclosures revealed that these agencies interfered in domestic politics in ways that aligned with that very narrative. The FBI launched a surveillance operation against the Trump campaign based on unverified opposition research. Dozens of former intelligence officials falsely claimed the Hunter Biden laptop story bore the “classic earmarks” of Russian disinformation, just weeks before the 2020 election. The Department of Homeland Security, along with the FBI and other agencies, coordinated with social media platforms to suppress speech under the banner of combating “misinformation.” These actions, taken together, suggest not a shadowy cabal, but a real and expanding infrastructure of state-aligned influence aimed at shaping public perception and countering populist dissent, just as the so-called conspiracy theorists claimed.

    The strongest argument against the existence of a secret government run by the deep state was the re-election of Donald Trump in 2024. If agencies like the CIA, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security truly exercised covert and unchecked control over American politics, it is difficult to explain how their most outspoken critic, and avowed enemy, returned to power. Trump did not merely criticize the intelligence community; he ran on a platform promising its reform. He vowed to purge partisan operatives, dismantle what he called politically weaponized agencies, and hold officials accountable for a pattern of lawless interference. And despite his direct confrontation with the national security establishment, Trump defeated Kamala Harris decisively, winning 312 electoral votes and a narrow popular vote majority.

    But now the Trump administration is attempting to sweep the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking scandal under the rug, with the Justice Department claiming that there is no client list and that no further disclosure is warranted, even though Attorney General Pam Bondi explicitly stated publicly that there were “tens of thousands of videos” which means the ability to identify the individuals involved in sex with minors, and that anyone in the Epstein files who tries to keep their name private has “no legal basis to do so.”

    On April 28, 2025, in a candid off-the-record exchange caught on video, Bondi told a bystander, “There are tens of thousands of videos… and it’s all with little kids.” She later reiterated on May 7 that these were “videos of Epstein with children or child porn.”

    Bondi’s comments directly contradicted the official stance of the administration, which has dismissed calls for a client list and slowed efforts to release the full contents of the Epstein files. Despite Trump’s campaign promises to dismantle the deep state and hold elites accountable, his administration now appears to be protecting the same intelligence and law enforcement networks it once condemned.

    Strong evidence suggests that Epstein was part of a sex blackmail operation tied to intelligence agencies. Visitor logs show that William Burns, who served as CIA Director under President Biden, visited Epstein’s New York townhouse multiple times. The Wall Street Journal reported those visits in 2023 based on Epstein’s private calendar. In 2017, Alex Acosta, the Justice Department official who gave Epstein his 2008 plea deal, told Trump transition officials that he was told to back off Epstein because he “belonged to intelligence.” The Justice Department later admitted that all eleven months of Acosta’s emails from that period had disappeared.

    This failure to follow through seriously undermines Trump’s explicit commitments to reform and shine light on the deep state. This is not just about Epstein. The Trump administration has not been particularly transparent about much else. The CIA, to its credit, released an internal evaluation last week admitting it had erred in the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment by claiming that Russia “aspired to” help elect Trump. But it stood by the overall assessment, signaling the agency’s reluctance to admit fault, its continued defensiveness in the face of mounting evidence, and its impunity. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence has disclosed a limited amount of information about intelligence community abuses during the pandemic, including the targeting of COVID vaccine dissenters as potential violent extremists. But beyond that, the Trump administration has released very little, even on issues where transparency would appear to be in its political interest. The administration has kept classified large volumes of material related to COVID origins, the FBI’s role in Russiagate, the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story, and unidentified anomalous phenomena.

    It is thus hard not to conclude that the intelligence community continues to operate in violation of the constitutional system of checks and balances by evading meaningful congressional oversight. The Constitution grants Congress the power and responsibility to oversee the executive branch, including intelligence agencies, through budgetary control, public hearings, and access to classified information. And yet the intelligence community is withholding and heavily redacting documents, delaying responses to lawful inquiries, and using national security classifications to avoid scrutiny.

    This persistent obstruction undermines the legislative branch’s ability to hold agencies accountable and distorts the balance of power the framers designed. When unelected intelligence officials can withhold information not only from the public but from elected representatives, constitutional oversight becomes a formality rather than a functioning safeguard.

    Few independent journalists have done more than we have to defend Donald Trump and the MAGA movement against the weaponization of the intelligence community and deep state agencies. Over the past two and a half years, we have published hundreds of investigative articles and testified before Congress about unconstitutional abuses of power by the CIA, FBI, DHS, and their proxies. We exposed efforts to censor Trump and his supporters through a sprawling Censorship Industrial Complex, documented the manipulation of the justice system to prosecute Trump on politicized grounds, and revealed how U.S. and foreign agencies coordinated mass surveillance of speech. We defended Trump from false and malicious claims, showed that his administration obeyed court orders, and disproved the narrative that he violated democratic norms more than Democrats. We were the first to report new evidence that President Obama’s CIA Director ordered spying on Trump campaign officials to justify surveillance and interfere in the 2016 election. After Trump’s reelection, we published investigations revealing abuses of power by USAID and the Department of Education. We editorialized in support of his lawful executive orders ending DEI and gender-affirming procedures for minors. We exposed the CIA and USAID’s role in supporting the 2019 impeachment effort and their connection to the Russia collusion hoax. In all this, we have consistently made the case that Trump’s victory was not just political, it was moral.

    Given all we have done to expose the Censorship Industrial Complex and intelligence community abuses of power, Public’s readers rightly expect us to follow through on these concerns, no matter who holds office. We did not spend years documenting unconstitutional secrecy, surveillance, and coercion only to remain silent when the administration we defended begins to mirror the behavior we condemned. Our commitment is not to any one leader or party, but to the Constitution, to civil liberties, and to the principle that no government, Democratic or Republican, should be allowed to rule through secrecy, coercion, or fear.

    To prove it is not simply the latest custodian of the deep state, the Trump administration must release the Epstein videos and related evidence, fully expose the scope of the sex trafficking and apparent IC blackmail operation, and ensure that every perpetrator, regardless of power or position, is held accountable under the law. It must also release the long-withheld files on COVID origins, Russiagate, the Hunter Biden laptop, January 6, unidentified aerial phenomena, and other topics. Even if these files do not reveal any “smoking guns,” the public has a right to full transparency. Only through this transparency can the credibility of the intelligence community be restored.

    Congress must step up as well. Legislative leaders must hold public hearings on each of these issues, issue subpoenas if necessary, and demand full executive branch compliance with oversight. The Constitution grants Congress, not the intelligence agencies, the power to check secrecy, correct abuse, and uphold the rule of law.

    These are not matters of political convenience but constitutional obligation. The American people have the right to know what their government has done in their name and against their rights. If the Trump administration fails to act, it will confirm the fear that even the most populist and combative president can be captured or neutralized by the very system he vowed to dismantle. And it will lose much of the legitimacy it gained by surviving and overcoming the lawfare, censorship, and weaponization of the deep state against it.

    Many within the Trump administration acknowledge this and note that this is hardly the end of the Epstein affair.
    “This is a total ****ing disaster,” someone within the Intelligence Community told us this afternoon, as we were going to press with this editorial.

    After we pointed out that the Attorney General said one thing and now the Justice Department, FBI Director, and Deputy FBI Director are all saying the opposite, the person said, “I hope you ask these questions. These are the questions that need to be asked. We’re in a time when information flows more freely. If people think that this is going to go away — I don’t see how it can.”

    Nor, we would add, should it.
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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

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    https://x.com/_emergent_/status/1942282783902056621



    Well. The Epstein Cell footage, is missing exactly one minute. 👀

    It jumps from 11:58:59 to 12:00:00.
    I don't get it. If you were going to splice this critical footage to hide shenanigans or whatever the hell went on, why would you leave the timestamp visible, clearly showing the footage has been edited? It can't possibly be an oversight, this has to be on purpose. But again, why? Another chess move?

    I'm too weary of the whole thing to even speculate at this point.
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    I could be very wrong, but there has to be some more important play behind the scene here. This is just TOO blatantly not believable !. Is there some big negotiation being arranged and this is being used as leverage?

    Sure smells like it

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    I could be very wrong, but there has to be some more important play behind the scene here. This is just TOO blatantly not believable !. Is there some big negotiation being arranged and this is being used as leverage?

    Sure smells like it
    Yes I have read that proposed - that Trump's admin is blackmailing the involved 'deep staters' for some major changes.

    But unlike Mark:

    Quote I'm too weary of the whole thing to even speculate at this point.
    I have posted views here in the last day from several points of view, from the most hopeless for the Trump admin to the most (seemingly) hopium based (5-d chess).

    I have done so to attempt to show that I can still entertain the whole spectrum of possibilities as I watch this all playing out.

    (and appreciate some of the pointed memes being created about all this)




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