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    Mark I agree 100 % with you. W T F How could Trump say that? Are you kidding?? Well there will be a good deal of reasoning and figuring out among everyone and no one will really know

    I thought perhaps some big deal in the works with key figures etc and the Epstein issue being offered in a deal? Hell I dont know, but Trumps answer to that journalist was a big mistake. Trump is not stupid, so why?

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    • CAUGHT! FBI Deleted FULL MINUTE From Epstein Jail Cell Video! w/Sam Tripoli:

    The Trump Department of Justice, headed by Pam Bondi, has announced it will not be releasing Jeffrey Epstein’s client list, in what appears to be a transparent coverup for powerful figures possibly implicated in Epstein’s sex trafficking operations.

    As Jimmy points out, despite earlier promises from Bondi and FBI director Kash Patel that damning evidence existed, the official narrative now claims there is no client list, no blackmail material, and that Epstein died by suicide. As a result the Epstein saga winds up as just another example of systemic corruption and hypocrisy in both political parties and the justice system.


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    video label says this was an ex-Mossad agent being interviewed - not verified by me.

    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...45904848154799



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    Dan Bongino in particular has a lifetime of stellar civic credit. Bongino was a police officer and a secret service agent; everything he has said and done up till now has suggested a good and brave man, far more willing to do the right thing than most human beings, regardless of the dangers involved.

    So what does that mean?

    He didn't become a corrupt man overnight, so either something has spooked him terribly or...

    In the case of Cathy O'Brien, when she attempted to prosecute her abusers, the cases were always stopped cold due to "National Security" reasons. Of course that means the corrupt apparatus wants to protect itself, but if I was being charitable I might say that the rot goes so deep that were it exposed the entire country would find itself in an immediate existential crisis, demoralization would be profound, and extreme panic might set in. We might never recover. It might even be more mentally and emotionally disorienting than full alien disclosure.

    I understand how dramatic that all sounds, but the Epstein mess leads exactly where the Cathy O'Brien mess does, and as you abstract upwards it gets stranger and stranger, and winds up in areas - dark, esoteric areas - that are not easily explainable to people in the alt media let alone the "normies".

    It's one big tangled web

    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.
    I've been trying to imagine exactly that, but I've failed so far. It didn't seem 'easy' at all. Can you help?

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    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.
    I've been trying to imagine exactly that, but I've failed so far. It didn't seem 'easy' at all. Can you help?

    Well you've read David Icke

    As I said in my previous post, the whole Epstein affair leads exactly where the Cathy O'Brien affair does. Can you imagine Trump getting up there in front of the whole country and trying to explain the reality of deep state pedophile rings, black magic, astral sorcerers, and satanism? "But the economy is doin great folks! Chat soon!"

    Then listing all the people involved, from government to military to higher education to God knows who else? Local police, grade school teachers, your bloody dentist maybe? It's an enormous tangled web, and it's not obvious to me that you can expose 20 or 30 high ranking people without giving up the whole bag.

    Just to be clear: I want the truth! But I'm not entirely convinced it's the right time or place for it. And my theory is, neither are Trump and Patel/Bogino. There's also God knows how many load bearing walls here we're not aware of that they likely are..all sorts of blackmail and shady alliances and so on that if disturbed might result in something even worse perhaps if the info is released.

    I don't know what the hell is going on, but if good men are unwilling to budge on it atm, then I might cautiously assume it's for a good reason.
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    Mike without any real clear answers, you make good sense in this. Were going to have to wait.

    We all know the saying, too big to fail?

    well this could be, the implications are too big to disclose

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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)

    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.
    Their number 1 priority is to protect the jew mafia who runs USA and who was running the honeypot blackmail operation in Epsteins island through which they control a ton of powerful people.
    AIPAC etc are also used to control the ones in power and i dont see Trump or anybody else do nothing about it . Again the opposite , all kinds of new laws to fight anti-semitism etc.
    Trump been part of that mafia for decades but Trump fans choose to ignore it.
    https://archive.org/details/MichaelC...ersBehindTrump

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    Blondi speaks..

    https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1942627928677753287


    Did anyone else catch what she said here? These videos containing child p*rn they found, belonging to Epstein...according to Bondi, he "downloaded" them. Say what? He made those videos, he filmed them at his island lair. He probably featured in many himself. She makes him sound like your average basement-dwelling pedo. This is more obfuscation, and a blatant lie!
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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Mike without any real clear answers, you make good sense in this. Were going to have to wait.

    We all know the saying, too big to fail?

    well this could be, the implications are too big to disclose
    For the demonic psychopaths deeply involved in this, the case is so big, it must fail.

    It's become a bit obvious to me that Bondi, Patel, and even Bongino didn't know what they were actually talking about up until recently. They may of been warned about it but just blew those warnings off not realizing the depth and all those actually involved. Now they have basically put their feet in their mouths and really have almost ruined any chance of rebuilding any trust what so ever in the DOJ and FBI.

    Some things never change.....Bondi, Patel, and Bongino are now members of the liars club and succumbed to the will of the demonic psychopaths they claimed to of despised.
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Quote Posted by Mike (here)

    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.
    Their number 1 priority is to protect the jew mafia who runs USA and who was running the honeypot blackmail operation in Epsteins island through which they control a ton of powerful people.
    AIPAC etc are also used to control the ones in power and i dont see Trump or anybody else do nothing about it . Again the opposite , all kinds of new laws to fight anti-semitism etc.
    Trump been part of that mafia for decades but Trump fans choose to ignore it.
    https://archive.org/details/MichaelC...ersBehindTrump
    Exactly right Jaak. Whenever some USA administration claims 'national security' for keeping outrageous issues under cover, you can be sure it's about I$rael's infiltration and control of USA.

    The reality is that the main security issue for USA (and the rest of the world) is Israel. Let's be very clear:
    Israeli intelligence asset Epstein trafficked american kids as a blackmail operation to control powerful men to do Israel's bidding.

    As for Trump's latest betrayal of USA voters with the Epstein coverup, it's a continuum of the same pattern: Trump is doing everything for Israel's benefit, even if that means not enough funds left for USA's basic needs like health care for all, housing the homeless and upgrading crumbling infrastructure.

    Say it out loud: for Trump and his administration, it's Israel first. That means a lot of trouble for the rest of the world.

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    Actually Bill, a solar flare big enough to bring down the electric grid and basically take us back to the Stone Age in terms of technology could happen any day now.
    A flare aimed at Earth only as big as the one that occurred in 1859, the "Carrington Event" could do that right now because the Earth's protective magnetism has diminished so much due to the ongoing 12,000 solar cycle/geomagnetic pole reversal.
    And we have just entered a Sun cycle of greater activity, so the odds of that happening have increased.
    The micronova, however, is estimated now to come sometime in the 2030s, not the 2040s (the ongoing pole reversal process has sped up according to Ben's latest report) and that event is much worse.
    At that point the geomagnetic excursion will occur, when the continents unlock and move positions literally overnight, causing huge cataclysms--earthquakes, volcanoes and tsunamis.
    The micronova also creates a huge blast from the Sun that is fatal to a lot of lifeforms on the Earth's surface and that's when it's advisable to be temporarily underground.
    If the electric grid hasn't already been destroyed by then, the micronova will definitely finish that off too.
    The new deadline puts more pressure on Preppers to get their preparations done, but at least it will reduce the amount of time the current nightmare of global affairs will have in which to become even more dystopian.
    That is the biggest secret that Trump is hiding, even bigger than the ET/UFO files, imho.
    But Trump's apparent insensitivity to the public's concerns about pedophilia, child sex trafficking, etc. is going to cost him.

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    If this was a movie, Dan Bongino would call a press conference this morning. On live TV, he would state that he had been ordered to lie and that he was resigning with immediate effect. But for legal reasons, he regrets he cannot take any questions or say any more at all.

    He'd never have a job in government ever again. But he'd be the citizens' hero, and the whole rotten DC edifice would crumble and fall.

    However, Bongino and his family have probably already been threatened. So he's chosen not to be a martyr about this.

    Ben Davidson's heartfelt plea can be understood: Bring on the solar flare.

    (That will definitely happen, btw. It's all gonna come down. But for that, we'll just have to wait patiently for a few more years. )

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    I have real difficlty imagining how this latest saga can have any strategic benefit for any possible white hats or similar benevolent operation.

    Its so bizarre, its almost like the Trump, Bondi, Patel etc. have been replaced by remote controlled clones.
    Also Trump calling Nethenyahu the greatest man on earth (para phrasing)
    What on earth is going on...

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    Just to be clear: I want the truth! But I'm not entirely convinced it's the right time or place for it. ...........

    I don't know what the hell is going on, but if good men are unwilling to budge on it atm, then I might cautiously assume it's for a good reason.
    The question then becomes: WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME? (To learn the real truth). Because the only answer is ----- never. So, either we continue to live under the auspices of a truly evil, despicable ............. well, an evil that is beyond words to describe, or the real truth comes out and the world just totally crashes.

    Yes, I mean a crash so big that it causes a sci-fi scenario of death, destruction, pain, anguish that spares practically no one. Including you and me. The way I see it is, it has to happen and there is no "good" time for it to happen. So, IMO, Trump, Patel, Bongino, et all are not doing me, or anybody, any favors by hiding the truth until "the time is right".
    I am enlightened, ............ Oh wait. That's just the police shining their spotlights on me.

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    Quote Posted by meat suit (here)
    I have real difficlty imagining how this latest saga can have any strategic benefit for any possible white hats or similar benevolent operation.

    Its so bizarre, its almost like the Trump, Bondi, Patel etc. have been replaced by remote controlled clones.
    Also Trump calling Nethenyahu the greatest man on earth (para phrasing)
    What on earth is going on...
    That's a good question. It's all lies, gaslighting, and just plain demonic and evil behavior spreading like a plague.

    It's really escalated especially over the last 10 years, more and more just becoming normal and common behavior.

    Most of my life it mostly seemed like this "criminal" behavior usually came from pockets of criminal minds in communities, now it all appears to mostly be coming from the top down. These leaders and elites don't even care who knows what they are doing anymore, and they just keep getting more brazen and extreme. Yes, there's always been elite criminal activity, but, at least they tried to hide it. Now it's in our face and they basically just laugh at us and say, "What are you all going to do about it?"

    Sweeping this Epstein stuff under the rug is a major signal and sign that these psychotic elites will only become more embolden and extreme. They ARE ABOVE THE LAW! This coverup only proves it more.

    Psychological warfare; this whole Epstein thing is just more of the same. Teaching and conditioning the masses as to who is in charge and who are the sheep and who are the wolves.....

    Also...

    Any one who actually believes that these two scumbags will actually be held accountable for anything really doesn't have a clue to what is really happening.

    This is just more of the same ole thing, gaslighting and manipulating the masses.

    Quote https://x.com/catturd2/status/

    IT’S HAPPENING!: The FBI has launched criminal investigations into James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan for their roles in the Trump-Russia probe.

    They blatantly LIED to Congress, and attempted to interfere in our elections.

    LOCK. THEM. UP.
    What a joke!
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    Maria Farmer and Whitney Webb have almost a three hour conversation and this is Part 1. This was posted 2 years ago.

    The Last American Vagabond has decided to release the entire phone conversation between Whitney Webb and Maria Farmer, a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell who had reported both to the FBI in 1996 for child pornography, sex trafficking, and sexual assault. Farmer, who has been interviewed by mainstream media outlets including The New York Times and CBS News, had reached out to Whitney because Maria felt that other outlets would not publish much of the information, she had given them on the case, particularly information related to Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner, who had close ties to Jeffrey Epstein and his sex trafficking/ blackmail operation.

    The phone call will be released in two parts, the first part can be heard below. The decision to release this phone call was twofold: first, to show that claims Whitney has made in recent interviews were indeed accurately based on statements Maria made during the call and to provide greater context to those statements; and second, to make the information publicly available and more easily disseminated to the widest audience possible.

    During the call, Maria covers a lot of ground and the call was never intended to be released as an interview, as Whitney gave Maria free range to discuss situations and topics without prompting from Whitney. In the first half of the call, Maria discusses her horrific experience at Wexner’s guest house, witnessing preparations for Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein to receive then-President Clinton on more than one occasion in 1995 and how Ivana Trump, President Trump’s ex-wife, frequently accompanied Ghislaine Maxwell when she went to recruit pre-teen girls for Epstein, among many other claims that can and have been corroborated by existing evidence and other interviews Whitney Webb has conducted in relation to the Epstein case. In addition, Maria provided Whitney with a copy of her driver's license with Wexner’s address, which she discusses in the phone call, and this will also be released in the coming days.

    One notable comment that Maria makes is regarding the man whom she calls the “holy grail” of the Epstein case, Epstein and Maxwell’s longtime chef, Andy Stewart. Maria refers to him as “Chef Andy” in the phone call. Andy Stewart died suddenly on April 7 as Maria’s lawyers were seeking to subpoena him for information on the case, and Maria and her lawyers were unaware of his untimely death until after her phone call with Whitney.

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    Default Re: Jeffrey Epstein & Ghislaine Maxwell: the whole story so far

    Part 2

    This is Part 2 of the conversation between Whitney Webb and Maria Farmer, a victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell who had reported both to the FBI in 1996 for child pornography, sex trafficking, and sexual assault. Farmer, who has been interviewed by mainstream media outlets including The New York Times and CBS News, had reached out to Whitney because Maria felt that other outlets would not publish much of the information she had given them on the case, particularly information related to Ohio billionaire Leslie Wexner, who had close ties to Jeffrey Epstein and his sex trafficking/ blackmail operation.

    The decision to release this phone call was twofold: first, to show that claims Whitney has made in recent interviews were indeed accurately based on statements Maria made during the call and to provide greater context to those statements; and second, to make the information publicly available and more easily disseminated to the widest audience possible.

    During the call, Maria covers a lot of ground and the call was never intended to be released as an interview, as Whitney gave Maria free range to discuss situations and topics without prompting from Whitney.

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    Imagine for one moment if you can that Trump knows that sometime in the 2030s if not before, our Sun could very likely unleash a CME big enough to take down the planet's entire electric grid, and that there is currently no way to repair the damage that would do.
    The world would essentially be without electricity for any forseeable future.
    And the chances of that happening before the 2030s are increasing now that the Sun has just moved into a more active solar cycle.
    If an event the size of the Harrington Event of 1859 were to occur today, directed toward Earth, the grid would go down, and flares that size are not that rare.
    Even the MSM is reporting on that now. See:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1673911
    AND:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1675869

    So the MSM is now reporting on this subject (though not revealing all the truth, but actually downplaying a lot that scientists are providing data for from their most current research and dot connecting process.
    (For all the data, you would have to go to someone like Ben Davidson of SpaceWeatherNews--the playlists or documentaries are a good place to start for someone new to the subject: https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s )

    Doesn't that indicate that something must be brewing behind Deep State closed doors, that they are planning to release in slow increments, so the public won't erupt into chaotic rebellion all at once?
    A lot of those players may just be waiting for the signal that it's time to retreat to whatever DUMB they have a reservation in, or in the case of the big corporate players, onto their super yachts or into private undergound bunkers or possibly even their bolt hole on Mars.
    (If there truly is a "jumproom" to Mars, there must be some kind of colony there, though whether Musk has a reservation there or has built his own little Mars bolthole will probably remain a subject of speculation.)
    Meanwhile, the big players have to keep the public as dumbed down and distracted as possible, for as long as possible, if they want any kind of law and order to continue (or at least, enough to keep them safe in the interim).

    From that perspective, it makes a kind of sense that Trump would be minimizing the importance of broken promises and coverups regarding Epstein and any number of other current, explosive issues.
    But of course, not everyone has the POV that Trump likely has, so his latest gaff is not likely to sit at all well with the public.
    Those big players might have to start leaking some really freaky information now to keep everyone distracted.
    And maybe that last "gaff", if that was what it was, was actually the start of it.

    It was just made public in scientific circles that estimates about when a disaster even worse than the electric grid going down were wrong, and that now it is recognized that it is more likely to be happening sometime in the 2030s, not the 2040s.
    (If the grid doesn't go down before the bigger catastrophe, it definitely will when the second one occurs.)
    That particular bigger disaster being the micronova, when the continents unlock from the mantle and move overnight, causing global cataclysms and very real climate change.
    Not to mention a "fire in the sky" of Biblical proportions...

    Imagine sitting on that information and anticipating the effort of trying to keep your cool while you are under scrutiny and in the public eye every day for possibly the next 3 years or more...
    (...Assuming that there is still even an internet or anything else electronic still functioning in that timeframe...)

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    Just to be clear: I want the truth! But I'm not entirely convinced it's the right time or place for it. ...........

    I don't know what the hell is going on, but if good men are unwilling to budge on it atm, then I might cautiously assume it's for a good reason.
    The question then becomes: WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME? (To learn the real truth). Because the only answer is ----- never. So, either we continue to live under the auspices of a truly evil, despicable ............. well, an evil that is beyond words to describe, or the real truth comes out and the world just totally crashes.

    Yes, I mean a crash so big that it causes a sci-fi scenario of death, destruction, pain, anguish that spares practically no one. Including you and me. The way I see it is, it has to happen and there is no "good" time for it to happen. So, IMO, Trump, Patel, Bongino, et all are not doing me, or anybody, any favors by hiding the truth until "the time is right".
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    One little bit of whistleblower info casting a shadow over Trump from this post:
    Quote Posted by Delight (here)
    Maria Farmer and Whitney Webb have almost a three hour conversation and this is Part 1. This was posted 2 years ago.

    ...how Ivana Trump, President Trump’s ex-wife, frequently accompanied Ghislaine Maxwell when she went to recruit pre-teen girls for Epstein, among many other claims that can and have been corroborated by existing evidence and other interviews Whitney Webb has conducted in relation to the Epstein case.

    All Credit To The Last American Vagabond: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond....-maria-farmer-
    https://www.rumble.com/video/v1ralkq/?pub=4
    More here:

    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/ivdNauWKMobU/
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    Donald Trump and by extension Dan Bongino and Kash Patel - their #1 duty is protecting the United States and acting in its best interests. Under that ethos, one could easily imagine a convincing argument for lying about all this or attempting to sweep it under the rug.
    I've been trying to imagine exactly that, but I've failed so far. It didn't seem 'easy' at all. Can you help?

    Well you've read David Icke

    As I said in my previous post, the whole Epstein affair leads exactly where the Cathy O'Brien affair does. Can you imagine Trump getting up there in front of the whole country and trying to explain the reality of deep state pedophile rings, black magic, astral sorcerers, and satanism? "But the economy is doin great folks! Chat soon!"

    Then listing all the people involved, from government to military to higher education to God knows who else? Local police, grade school teachers, your bloody dentist maybe? It's an enormous tangled web, and it's not obvious to me that you can expose 20 or 30 high ranking people without giving up the whole bag.

    Just to be clear: I want the truth! But I'm not entirely convinced it's the right time or place for it. And my theory is, neither are Trump and Patel/Bogino. There's also God knows how many load bearing walls here we're not aware of that they likely are..all sorts of blackmail and shady alliances and so on that if disturbed might result in something even worse perhaps if the info is released.

    I don't know what the hell is going on, but if good men are unwilling to budge on it atm, then I might cautiously assume it's for a good reason.

    Imagine having the Dirt on your enemy - an enemy that is colluding to destroy the country you love and has come within a whisker of blowing your brains out - with other assassination attempts in the pipe line....

    Dirt so bad - it couldn't be worse....... torture, abuse and murder of innocent babies and children - Dirt so bad we're talking Lynch Mobs .....

    What would you (ie Trump) DO with the information and EVIDENCE.......? Insurance and leverage are two things that spring to mind....

    IMO this is a time to read between the lines and see what develops next - who keeps a low profile, who now shuts up with their never ending criticism about Trump - who dissolves away from the public eye..... etc etc....

    Something big must be going down behind the scenes,,,,and for example those pointless hours of footage of where Epstein was allegedly kept, with one minute obviously missing - could be interpreted as a big wink to the public....just speculating -

    time will tell how this plays out...

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