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    I have been an observer of China for many years, and spent some years living in China. The title of this thread is the conclusion I get. It comes from mostly observation and deduction. I cannot prove anything as I cannot even prove the Freemasons exist.

    Masonry (or the Powers that have been for centuries) had a great deal of influence on China since the overthrow of the Ching dynasty. Its influence was checked by Mao Zedong (Contrary to popular perception, Mao was a great man, a nationalist who wanted to establish a classless egalitarian society.) But upon his death, his loyalists, the Gang of Four and successor were eliminated and the reign by the Chinese Masonry began under the banner of CCP and Socialism with Chinese characteristics, up to this day.

    Some reasons why I believe this is the case.
    1. Historic reasons. Masonry likes to control countries in order to control the world. When there is opposition to a government, they support the rebels in the hope of getting influence or control if the government is overthrown. We see this in their support of the Bolsheviks and the communist party of Russia. So we can bet on their support of Sun Yat-Sen, who used the TongMengHui to oppose the Ching dynsasty. In official history, the society and many others were funded by generous overseas wealthy Chinese. But could the real money have come from the Masons?
    The Chinese Communist Party started their revolution in the cities against Chiang’s
    KuoMingTang, imitating the Soviet model of having uprisings by the working class. They failed miserably as suppression was easy and Chiang had the support of the triad societies. Not long ago I read some passage from an old book which revealed that many Chinese leaders like Chou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping were masons, while Mao was not. If this is to be believed, then the Masons obviously supported these city rebels who were mostly intellectuals. It is also very natural for the intellectuals to admire the west for their having Mr. Sai and Mr. De (science and democracy) and probably Freemasons was very appealing then. These city masons fled to the country and joined Mao who showed some success in organizing peasant’s revolution. And at some critical point in the Long March they elected Mao to be the leader, seeing that he was also a great strategist.
    After founding the PRC, Mao had the reputation and reverence of the people far beyond the other leaders. He had the ambition of building an egalitarian society, always admonishing that if this was not achieved, the revolution would just regress into the old world with master and slave relationship between those who had and who had not. In the nationalisation of land, the landlords were purged and many were executed summarily (my grandfather was one.) Knowing the excesses Mao criticised the random killing and abuses and called for discretion. This is recorded in many of his instructions. Knowing what the Masons can do now, could it be that many of the atrocities were implemented by them. I am suggesting that even in the Mao era, the government was a coalition between the communist puritans and the masons, at least those who favoured the Capitalist Road (They were called revisionists.) That’s why there was the Cultural Revolution.

    2. The immediate implementation of what we now confirm is the depopulation agenda – Upon Deng’s rising to power in 1978, the one-child policy was implemented in draconian style as soon as 1979. China throughout history had no such mandates. Mao had encouraged a high birth rate, saying “the more the better”. The average was about 3.5 per family and more in the rural areas. There were forced abortions of very late pregnancies which caused death to both and reports were abundant of rivers floating with dead female babies. This was a very brutal policy which China did not need. World overpopulation was only beginning to be discussed in the 70’s in the west (probably from masonic propaganda) and this idea of reducing China’s population so drastically could not be a local idea. Maintaining it with such force could only mean China was told to.

    3. The rather inexplicable invasion of Vietnam – The outward reason by China was that Vietnam militias frequently incurred into the GuanXi province and Vietnam had to be given “a lesson”. A very costly lesson indeed and the deaths were mostly young men from the southern provinces. This was an act certainly bad for China at the time when it wanted to flourish from the poor past. Was it a test for China's loyalty to the Masonic cause?

    4. The sudden shift to buying western products in favour of helping local ones – The many years of China’s “walking on two legs” and seeing many national independent developments would have China benefitted from learning new technologies by Open-Up. However, China did not do so but instead destroyed many of its national enterprises by allowing western capitals to pour in unchecked. The Yun-10 passenger plane was a model from many years of research and development. It made several successful test flights and was ready to be manufactured. Instead the project was abruptly halted in favour of buying 20 Boeings. This is an example of a 180-degree turn to pursue capitalism at the expense of the country. (The reason was high production cost)

    5. The lock-step style of following the US on 911 – Terrorism was a rather alien term in China. Immediately after 911 China urgently raised its anti-terrorist structure. The very detailed security checks in the MTR stations and checkpoints were set up and still being used today, in spite of the manpower and inconvenience it caused. No real terrorist acts in these 25 years. This is what the Masonic technocrats want for the future, of course. I remember there was the case of the arrest of the shoe-bomber in an American airport. Hilariously, the next week I tried to get on a train everyone was ordered to go barefoot through security.

    6. The most draconian style in the three years of covid – We know covid was a lie, a theatre, the implementation of the depopulation agenda. Because of the freedom of speech in the west, we know that the covid jab was lethal to many people. I knew that early in 2020-21. At that time I thought since China did not use the MRN techcology, the vials were safer, but no. People all over the world who have taken the jabs still carry the injuries and many are still dying. China is no exception. Its population has reduced by several billions according to some anti-Chinese sources. This estimation might not be wrong as the lack of people in the streets compared to pre-covid times is obvious. For a very long time during the three years, China asked all of its people to have the PCR-test every 24 hours. In the morning you saw long lines of people waiting for the test, failing would mean no school, no work. This policy was insane to the extreme. Would even a tyrant ask for such an impractical way of battling the unseen virus? The government expenditure on this alone was enormous. Taxi drivers were required to have the check every 12 hours. Very insane. Locking down almost every city for weeks and months would certainly bring down everything, lives and livelihoods. The order is said to come directly from the CDC of China, directly onto the city and neighbourhood estates, bypassing the provincial or city administrations. This radical change of power structure is something to ponder on.

    There are other “little” things that make one wonder if China is that “sovereign”. If the hypothesis is true, then we must ask why the world we see does not support it. Isn’t Xi a sovereign leader who promotes multiculturalism, and pairs with Putin to oppose the masonic west? I think the contradictions have to be solved within each one’s mind. Ready to turn your worldview upside down. Perhaps then you are upright.
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    Communist China was made by freemasons and has been under their control ever since. Mao killed 100+ million people and to call him a great man seems a bit odd .
    With their social credit system and constant surveilance China is the role model of the NWO.

    The Chinese communist leader Mao Zedong belonged to the Grand Orient (John Daniel, "Scarlet and the Beast", Volume III, Tyler, pp. 33-35). He made sure that certain high-ranking masonic brothers abroad were kept constantly supplied with narcotics from China.
    The Northern Lodge of China, No. 570, was founded in Shanghai in 1849. Later, the Chinese branch of freemasonry was to become very powerful. A new grand lodge was opened in the Shanghai Masonic Temple on 18 March 1949 with large numbers of invitations issued to representatives from other lodges. After the proclamation of the Peoples Republic of China, most of the lodges carried on their activities as if nothing had happened. Most of them, however, had moved to Hong Kong for reasons of safety. In 1962, the Chinese Ministry of the Interior expressed a wish that the lodges register in the same way as other organizations. The freemasons were unwilling to publicise lists of their members, and thus preferred to move to
    either Hong Kong or Taiwan. According to masonic sources, the members were not persecuted in communist China. This was probably due to the fact that freemasons were active in the very highest ranks of the government (as advisers among other things).
    The treasury and media of china were under the control of Israel Epstein and Sidney Shapiro .


    When the US Congress approved 125 million dollars in aid to Chiang Kai-shek in 1948, Truman(freemason) made sure it never got there and that Chiang was beaten by Mao Zedong's red troops. Chiang's troops were constantly being diminished. The American aid to the freemason Mao Zedong went through Moscow from 1945 onwards
    (William T. Still, "New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies", Lafayette, Louisiana, 1990, p. 172).
    The People's Republic of China was proclaimed on 1 October 1949, largely because of to the aid to Mao. The aid to Chiang had stopped and he no longer had fuel
    for his tanks or ammunition. He had to give way to the communists .
    (Michael J. Goy, "The Missing Dimension in World Affairs", South Pasadena, 1976, p. 103).
    All this was planned already during the Potsdam conference in the summer of 1945. For understandable reasons the United States wished to hide its role in this process. This was confirmed by Owen Lattimore, a Johns Hopkins University professor specializing in China and Asia, Roosevelt's key advisor on China policy, and adviser to Chiang Kai-shek: "The problems was how to allow them [China] to fall
    without making it look as if the United States had pushed them." (Gary Allen, "None Dare Call it Conspiracy", Seal Beach, California, 1972, p. 76)
    The secret masonic society led by Sun Yatsen, which had grown out of the Chinese renaissance swore an oath, when its members were exiled in Hawaii, to return to China and topple the Qing dynasty.
    Just in 1903, the freemasons on twenty-five different occasions tried to bring down the Manchurian Empire; the following year there were ninety attempts, and in 1905 they tried eighty-five times. The Chinese government successfully defended itself for eight years. The freemasonry tried at the same pace until 10 October 1911, when
    several secret societies (among them Tongmengui) in Wuchang started its Xianhai Revolution (meaning "year of the pig). The freemasons led by Sun Yatsen proclaimed a republic in Nanking on 1 January 1912. The commander-in-chief Yuan Shikai forced in connection with this incident the Qing dynasty, which had ruled China for 268 years, to abdicate on 12 February 1912. Yan himself became president.
    The Chinese freemasons had achieved their foremost goal. The six year old emperor Po Yi was overthrown and thus ended an empire of 2000 years. Po Yi was allowed to stay on in his palaces in Peking, but the treasures were sold, a normal occurrence at such changes of power. In 1934, the Japanese named Po emperor of the protectorate Manchukuo, where he already had been acting head of state for two
    years. At the end of the Second World War, Po was captured by Soviet troops. When the People's Republic of China was proclaimed, Po Yi was extradited to Peking in 1950. He was one of the few monarchs not to be executed after a "revolution". He was released in 1959 after having been brainwashed for nine years in prison and was allowed to work as a gardener until his death of cancer in 1967.
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    Masonic control is under Satanic Control.
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    History is never what it seems or what is told. We are familiar with the term "rewriting history" and turning lies into truths and vice versa. In my younger times Mao was both reviled and revered, about half and half. I think then people were closer to the truth than now, because a lot of information was told by mouths and people you know. This is no longer so, the younger generations do not see Mao any good and Chiang and Sun Yat-sen have gained respect from them.

    At the time of Mao's death, eulogies came from very many world leaders and men of prominence. What has changed? Do we know him better now?

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    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Masonry likes to control countries in order to control the world.

    Have you perhaps mistaken this for the Jesuits and the Church of Rome?

    Moreover, there seems to be confusion about something that is an entirely Christian creation.

    Granted, you can take something like Jaak posted and perhaps find there are many members of "freemasonic lodges", who are there by their own decisions making their own independent judgements.

    It could be re-written with every instance replaced by "Christian". Maybe with some exceptions for specifically Chinese personalities.

    Anti-Masonry is a Fascist scare tactic; the world is a bit more complex than the black-and-white postulates offered by this rubric.

    Communism is a European political platform that mandates the removal of monarchy, which you can see as a domino chain that worked all the way across most of Asia. But then one might say, well, for example, Poland isn't a "communist form of government" like the CCP, but, it's not any Kingdom of Poland either, and so in most of these cases the net result is Totalitarian Democracy, a term applied in Israel around 1951.


    Put this way is roughly correct, simply asking about the "or":


    Quote Masonry (or the Powers that have been for centuries) had a great deal of influence on China

    "Powers" was definitely the name used by major countries for themselves since the 1800s, and yes, it was enough influence to draw the map we have today.

    Inside it are former monarchies whose resources have mainly been privatized, and run a series of Capitalists' Wars, getting people to die for causes they ordinarily would not otherwise care about or even notice, starting with the Boer Wars.

    Considering that the British Empire spent all its Sterling on tea and the Chinese benefitted, they received the so-called Opium Wars, which would be the second really harmful incursion after the Jesuits. Ever since the U. S. Navy first saw China in the 1850s, they have been terrified and obsessed by it. There just isn't "Masonry" as some type of monolithic edifice "controlling" this.

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    I havent noticed any jesuits but jews and their puppets freemasons seem to be all over the place..
    As early as in the 1920s, highly placed Jewish functionaries were visiting China to introduce Communism into certain areas. Among those "advisers" were Adolf Yoffe, Michael Borodin (real name: Jakob Grusenberg, founder of the Communist Party in Mexico in 1919), Bela Kun, Enrique Fischer (actually Heinz Neumann) and Vasili Bluecher (Galen-Chesin), who became responsible for gruesome atrocities against the Chinese people. Another Soviet Jew, Anatoli Gekker, who had been the veiled power behind the puppet Communist leaders Damdin Sukhkhe-Bator (1893-1923) and Khorlogin Choibalsan (1895-1952) in Mongolia in 1922, became political commissar for the Communist regions of China in 1924.
    Communism was introduced into Mongolia in 1921. Two Jews from Russia, V.Levichev and Yan Gamarnik, led the Chinese Red Army. An English Jew named Billmeier saw to it that the Chinese Reds were armed with Soviet weapons.

    The Chinese Marxist Sun Yatsen (Sun Yixian) was an eminent freemason. Even Chiang Kaishek (Jiang Jieshi) co-operated with the Communists in the beginning. He was a 33rd degree freemason (of the Scottish rite) who later broke away from the Communists and became the leader of bourgeois China.
    The United States demanded of the Japanese to stop fighting the Chinese Communists between 1937 and 1945. The American government betrayed Chiang Kaishek's anti-Communist front in the autumn of 1948.
    General George C. Marshall (1880-1959), then secretary of state, demanded that Chiang Kaishek allow the Communists into his government. Marshall had been President Truman's special envoy in China from 1945 to 1947. He asserted that the Communists were good people but Chiang Kaishek refused to comply. This refusal was all the Americans needed and Chiang Kaishek was left without help. Instead, the support for Mao Zedong increased (the aid to the Chinese Communists went via
    Moscow). On the 31st of January 1949, Communists in American tanks rolled into Beijing and on the 31st of October, the People's Republic of China was officially proclaimed. The civil war ended after having claimed 20 million lives. In the following year the United States claimed that Mao Zedong had distanced himself from dictatorship and sought to introduce democracy. Of course this was a lie, but they needed to show a good picture of the Chinese Communists.

    China is now an environmental disaster area. The most infamous area of industrial pollution in Russia and Eastern Europe seem like nature reserves by comparison. There are towns like Benxi (perhaps the world's dirtiest town) where 25-year-old Chinese die of cancer. (Dagens Nyhetcr, 9th of January 1994.)
    Mao Zedong had several Jewish advisers behind him. One of these was the British Jew Sidney Rittenberg who worked for Mao from 1946 to 1976. They were called "voluntary advisers". Thanks to such advice, Mao murdered 46 000 well-educated people in his campaign against intellectuals in 1957. The number of such victims was later to rise. 43 million people died of starvation during a three year period in connection with the "Great Leap Forward". Another two million were murdered.
    The agricultural "reforms" had earlier killed 1.5 million landowners. During the cultural revolution, the Red Guards persecuted 100 million people, approximately half of which are believed to have died.
    It is known that at least 400 000 were murdered. No one knows the exact figures - the real figures may well be twice as high.
    90 000 people were reported to have been massacred in Guangxi alone, according to incomplete statistics. (Dagens Nyheter, 17th of August 1992.) At the same time, an epidemic of cannibalism swept across Wuxuan. Its most extreme forms were "cannibal banquets": meat, liver, heart, kidneys, thighs, shins... boiled, fried, roasted. At the "highest" point of this epidemic, human meat was even prepared in the dining rooms of the revolutionary committee for the town of Wuxuan. (Dagens Nyheter, 17th of August 1992.)
    Zheng Yi, a Beijing Red Guard, related the following in an interview for a BBC documentary about Mao Zedong in 1993: "In the beginning people murdered one another because of their political convictions. Then they began to eat people. Just killing them wasn't enough. Only by eating the flesh of their enemies could they show their class-consciousness. You would torture someone first, then cut up their stomach while they were still alive. Like at the slaughter of a pig, you would cut out the heart and liver, chop them up and eat them."
    Zheng Yi later became a dissident and succeeded in photographing some secret documents concerning Communist crimes in China. At least 137 people and probably hundreds more were eaten, according to secret documents about cannibalism among the Red Guards in the Guangxi province at the end of the 1980s. (Dagens Nyheter, 8th January 1993.)
    Approximately 30 million people are assumed to have been killed during the first ten years up to 1959. The bloody terror began in Beijing on the 24th of March 1951 and spread to other major cities. In 1960 alone, more people were killed in China than during the entire Sino-Japanese War. Professor Richard L. Walker at the University of South Carolina estimated the casualties of Chinese Communism up to 1971 to be 62.5 million at the least. In July 1994, after the release of new, shocking documents, Chen Yizi at Princeton University told the Washington Post that the total number of Chinese killed during the Communist terror was at least 80 million. (Dagens Nyheter, 19th of July 1994, A 9.)
    It came to light later that the number of victims to Communism in China was 140
    million. (Hufvudstadsbladet, Helsinki, 23 December 1997.) The United States of America is also responsible for those lives.
    The wealthy Jewish banker and Illuminatus, David Rockefeller, described Chairman Mao's terror regime as "one of the most important and successful in human history". He believed that it had succeeded in fostering high moral and common purpose in China. (The New York Times, 10th of August, 1973, Gary Allen, "The Rockefeller File".

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    i have read about this before and have to say agreed with the title...talked alot about US and any other nation but most powerful is China being the focus.

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    As I understand it so far, the CCP is in a struggle (and losing) with the descended branches and remains of the Tibetan Black Lodge, which I think was the progenitor cult/secret society of just about every cult/secret society, worldwide, since.

    I'm currently trying to investigate where the Thule society originated. So far, it looks like it sprang from that Tibetan Black Lodge.

    ( It's interesting to note that the 1930s Germans were very interested in the Tibetan region, making 3 expeditionary trips there. 'Myths' say there is access to an underground realm there, which makes some sense because the region seems to be a very geologically disturbed region that could well have vast underground cavities [it actually looks like two continents collided there] ).

    Whatever the Thule group was it seems to have turned up in the Levant region as a pale skinned/red haired/blue eyed group of people around 6k BC, which coincides quite well with dates and origins in the biblical narratives. They may have spread worldwide because American Indian tribes describe an identical group and they called them the Anastasi. Wikipedia and the rest of the internet doesn't seem to know anything about that, and say the word/name is of Greek origin. So that's something I need to clear up before I can get any further with that.

    In any case, whatever groups cults or secret societies are doing in relation to each other, they seem to all be of one genesis and are having internal power struggles but share a similar disinterest in the wellbeing of the rest of us.
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    Quote Posted by shaberon (here)
    Quote Posted by syrwong (here)
    Masonry likes to control countries in order to control the world.

    Have you perhaps mistaken this for the Jesuits and the Church of Rome?

    Moreover, there seems to be confusion about something that is an entirely Christian creation.

    Granted, you can take something like Jaak posted and perhaps find there are many members of "freemasonic lodges", who are there by their own decisions making their own independent judgements.

    It could be re-written with every instance replaced by "Christian". Maybe with some exceptions for specifically Chinese personalities.

    Anti-Masonry is a Fascist scare tactic; the world is a bit more complex than the black-and-white postulates offered by this rubric.

    Communism is a European political platform that mandates the removal of monarchy, which you can see as a domino chain that worked all the way across most of Asia. But then one might say, well, for example, Poland isn't a "communist form of government" like the CCP, but, it's not any Kingdom of Poland either, and so in most of these cases the net result is Totalitarian Democracy, a term applied in Israel around 1951.


    Put this way is roughly correct, simply asking about the "or":


    Quote Masonry (or the Powers that have been for centuries) had a great deal of influence on China

    "Powers" was definitely the name used by major countries for themselves since the 1800s, and yes, it was enough influence to draw the map we have today.

    Inside it are former monarchies whose resources have mainly been privatized, and run a series of Capitalists' Wars, getting people to die for causes they ordinarily would not otherwise care about or even notice, starting with the Boer Wars.

    Considering that the British Empire spent all its Sterling on tea and the Chinese benefitted, they received the so-called Opium Wars, which would be the second really harmful incursion after the Jesuits. Ever since the U. S. Navy first saw China in the 1850s, they have been terrified and obsessed by it. There just isn't "Masonry" as some type of monolithic edifice "controlling" this.
    Freemasonry is perhaps not the best word for the Power that is controlling the world. We have heard so many names, Illuminati, Zionists, Neo-Nazis, Bankers, Jews, the Deep State, the Families, the Reptilians, Bilderberg group, Trilateral commission etc, etc. Until we know what part each group plays in reshaping/controlling the world, these names are meaningless. It is very hard for humanity to fight against the invisible evil forces and the nameless controllers. I used the term Masonry for convenience. Since it is said that all American presidents except possilbly J.F. Kennedy and Lincoln were Freemasons, I think they are high enough to be blamed.

    I would incline to think that the highest power comes from an alien intelligence. Maybe something related to snakes. The Vartican certainly looks close. But it does not matter. We got to name names to have an enemy.

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    The education we received since childhood tells us that Mao Zedong is a great man, Deng Xiaoping, Zhou Enlai, and Sun Yat-sen are all great men; Chiang Kai-shek is a reactionary.

    If you ask any Chinese on the street or on social media, they will almost all think so. If anyone dares to say bad things about these people, they will definitely be "sent to their families", and this is true even for people in the mountains who have never received education. This extreme patriotism is poisoning every Chinese. I don't know how they keep almost everyone in the country in such a unified mind.

    The "diversity" that the leader talked about in his speech has long disappeared. We are not allowed to say anything that is not good for the government, even if it is the truth. They make you willingly become their puppets in a comfortable environment, and even when the war comes, they will let the farmers willingly go to the battlefield, in the name of "serving the motherland", but in fact the country has never given them any benefits. They are poor and have low cognition, which makes them more like puppets.

    Shortly after the founding of New China, two villages had a dispute over resources and it turned into a gunfight. After that, the government began to ban guns nationwide, which was even worse than the nationwide lockdown during the epidemic. "Just because he broke his leg while running, you are going to deprive him of the right to walk?". After the epidemic, we were told that only tens of thousands of people died nationwide. For a population of 1.4 billion, this is just the tip of the iceberg, but this is just the data we were told, and the real death toll will never be made public.
    Many solutions to problems are obvious, but they just "have their own ideas", which is not just about political achievements.

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    Default Re: China is under or largely under Masonic control

    We in the US (of my generation at least) were taught that Mao was a monster reponsible for the deaths of millions of Chinese, and I think most Westerners still believe that.
    Considering how dystopian conditions are in China today, I would be surprised if you are not subject to censorship from the CCP just for posting anything critical about China, or even for just being a member of this forum.
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    The education we received since childhood tells us that Mao Zedong is a great man, Deng Xiaoping, Zhou Enlai, and Sun Yat-sen are all great men; Chiang Kai-shek is a reactionary.
    I would be interested to hear your views about the information in this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1675732
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    Default Re: China is under or largely under Masonic control

    interesting thread. Ugh another inforwars mess lol.

    Rest assured syrwong, we can confirm the masons are real, their temples are everywhere and seems like in every town with maybe 5-10K population or more. I hang out with some and even been in one of the temples for an event. Did a couple of their rituals. One of the masons told me that at a certain point, they choose between the light and the dark path. The dark path are "left-hand pathers". I believe that represents the left pillar on the kabbalistic tree of life, "the pillar of severity". It seems they are a bit like the Harry potter wizards that except that some need to experience the light and some the dark. White and black magic.

    So, i think its clear that the low level fraternity masons all helping out each other thru the brotherhood are not the problem. Im not sure how the masons who turned to the darkside operate though. Do they hang out in the same temples as the rest and just have secret meetings within secret meetings. Do they then leave and join some other organization with the satanic church dark siders?

    According to Catherine Austin Fitts, some huge number of countries all have their central banks tied into the Bank of Int'l Settlements (BIS). If that is true then it seems simplest to identify hydra controlling the west and china as the Banksters. Who knows which of those other organizations those Banksters are members of or if they just control them too.

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    Okay, if I were realistic, I might not post this information at all, or even join this forum, but I also have a certain idealism that motivates me to say these things. Don't worry, as long as I'm still posting content, I'm safe.

    On social networking sites and mainstream media, you can basically only learn about China's advantages. Those media even call those who have to work in the fields in hot weather "hardworking", and call the information about working hard to earn money abroad "beware of the sugar-coated bullets of foreign forces". They always say one thing in front of us and another behind our backs. Now they still want to block our mouths, stop our bodies and minds, and dissatisfaction and anger are spreading among young people.

    Learn about the outside world through the media, they tell you that it is chaotic outside, crimes happen there every day, and some strikes and marches are regarded as acts of disturbing order [in China, this phenomenon has never happened, at least it has been like this for decades]. If you want to learn about it through books, except for some well-known books, you can't see the others, and those websites are prohibited from access.

    Chinese people are very good at "eating people". If a demonstration breaks out here, everyone will only look at the first person who stands out, and they will hold steamed buns in their hands, waiting to dip in his blood.

    Nowadays, the job market in China is already very bad. In order to get a job with an hourly wage of 16 yuan and working ten hours or even longer, some people voluntarily reduce their hourly wages to get a job. Their bottom line is getting lower and lower, and companies are getting worse. The government has almost no control over this phenomenon. On the contrary, those who are asking for wages will even call the police to arrest them if they make companies feel unhappy. The top leaders must know this information, but they are not in a hurry, as if this is not something they should pay attention to at all.
    Socialism with Chinese characteristics is not socialism, but just under the banner of socialism so that people across the country can contribute willingly.

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