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    Default The most experienced state in governing people is the Vatican. History of the Vatican and its ruler - the Pope

    All my articles: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1672458

    (Orthodoxy) Salvation of the soul. The meaning of life.
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    ➡️ This is the smallest and most mysterious state in the world.
    ➡️ Its area is only half a square kilometer - this is five thousand times smaller than Moscow.
    ➡️ And it is located right inside Italy.
    ➡️ This is the only country with zero birth rate,
    ➡️ and its population is less than a thousand people.
    ➡️ Here in the underground library is stored almost all knowledge about humanity.

    What are we talking about?
    Of course, about the Vatican.



    The Vatican, also known as the Sovereign Territory of the Holy See, is the spiritual center of the Catholic Church.

    ➡️ The Vatican we know today was formed in 1929.
    ➡️ And it was granted independence by the Italian fascists led by Mussolini, friends of Hitler.
    ➡️ It is a theocratic state (i.e. a state ruled by the clergy, religious leaders) led by the Pope, in whose hands all branches of power are concentrated and his decisions cannot be challenged.



    Well, how can I not mention the hypocrisy of the West, which condemns all regimes except, so to speak, democratic ones? But the Vatican is, of course, something different, it is traditions and religion. Theocratic Iran is bad, and theocratic Vatican is good.

    ➡️ Vatican citizenship cannot be inherited.
    ➡️ To obtain a passport, you must enter the service of the state.
    ➡️ The Vatican does not pay taxes, it exists through donations, the sale of coins, stamps and tourism.
    ➡️ But the Vatican has lands in France, England and Switzerland, the value of which is €424 million.
    ➡️ At the personal disposal of the Pope is the so-called St. Peter's Denarius, an annual collection of donations that takes place around the world on June 29, the feast of the apostles. Tens of millions of dollars are collected in this way every year.
    ➡️ The money is managed by the Institute of Religious Affairs.
    ➡️ Its employees have immunity, they cannot be interrogated, threatened by the police or the tax authorities.
    ➡️ The bank itself cannot be controlled or closed.
    ➡️ That's why officials and the mafia are not averse to laundering money through it.
    ➡️ Its assets in 2021 are estimated at $6.5 billion, but some researchers talk about amounts tens of times more.

    The history of the Vatican is almost 2000 years old and it is closely connected with Christianity. Today I want to show how it happened that a Catholic priest got his own state, which no one can influence.

    ❓ What kind of state is this?
    ❓ What influence does it have in the world?
    ❓ What does the Vatican have in common with the Jews?
    ❓ And now it will be unexpected - with reptilians?

    The Vatican is located on the Vatican Hill in Rome - the capital of Italy.
    In fact, it stands on the bones of the first Christians - there are grottoes under St. Peter's Basilica. This is a cemetery of Ancient Rome and it was located near the circus, where during the time of the Roman Emperor Nero at the beginning of our era, the followers of Jesus Christ were mockingly executed.

    WHO IS THE "POPE"?



    The Pope, as Catholics teach, is the successor of the Apostle Peter, the closest disciple of Jesus Christ. As a result, he, the Pope, should have all the privileges that were granted by God to the Apostle Peter.

    The privileges of the Apostle Peter consisted in the fact that he was supposedly appointed by Christ as the prince over the apostles and the supreme head of the entire Church. Peter himself, according to legend, was crucified and buried on the Vatican Hill.

    In the first centuries of Christianity, all priests were called popes. But starting from the 7th century, the title of "pope" was given exclusively to the Roman bishop, since Rome was the capital of the world, and therefore both the church and the clergy should have more power than everyone else.

    The official title of the pope is "Great Pontiff". The Pontiff in Ancient Rome is a member of the highest college of priests, which managed all religious affairs.

    So, the powers of the Pope of Rome apply not only to matters of faith and morality, but also to governance and do not depend on secular authorities.

    Only he has jurisdiction over members of the clergy who are accused of criminal offenses. The Pope in Catholicism is the sinless vicar of God on Earth.

    But, as we know, in addition to Catholics, there are also Orthodox Christians. The final split between them occurred in 1054.
    🍇☦About Orthodoxy and briefly about what happened:: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1677293

    What is the reason for the split?
    And it's all about power and in dogmatic disagreements. The fact is that the church had enormous power, and when the Roman Empire was disintegrating, the issue of power became the stumbling block that divided the church into Orthodox and Catholics in 1054.



    The Roman priests claimed to lead the entire Christian world, and the Byzantines, the eastern part of the Roman Empire, did not want to recognize their primacy.

    The schism still exists. The Orthodox reject papal primacy, believing that it can only be “first among equals.” In their opinion, Jesus gave power to all the apostles, and the foundation of the Church was not the person of Peter, but his confession of faith.

    That is, the Western approach is authoritarian, and the Eastern one, which Russia joined in 988, is democratic and correct from the point of view of Christ's teaching.

    Local Orthodox Churches
    The essentially unified Universal Orthodox Church consists of 16 Local Orthodox Churches. Each of the Local Churches has administrative independence (autocephaly) from the others and is headed by its own Primate – the patriarch, archbishop or metropolitan. The head of the entire Universal Church is the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1) Moscow Patriarchate
    2) The Patriarchate of Antioch
    3) The Patriarchate of Jerusalem
    4) Serbian Patriarchate
    5) Romanian Patriarchate
    6) Bulgarian Patriarchate
    7) Georgian Patriarchate
    8) Polish Church
    9) Albanian Church
    10) Czech Church and Slovakia
    11) The Orthodox Church in America
    12) Macedonian Church
    13) Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople
    14) Patriarchate of Alexandria
    15) Church of Greece
    16) Church of Cyprus


    An Analysis of the Roman Error about the Primacy and Infallibility of the Pope: (Need to translate from Russian to English) https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/Mitrofan_...himosti-papy/1

    Why did Russians become Orthodox and how Orthodoxy came from Byzantium to Russia, you can watch the film, they won’t tell you this in history books:

    Christianity was legalized in the Roman Empire in 313 under Emperor Constantine.

    In 476, the Roman Empire was divided into two parts.

    And if the Eastern one existed as a separate state - Byzantium, then feudal territories were formed in place of the Western one.

    In conditions of constant destruction, the church turned into a strong center. Largely due to its wealth: by the end of the 6th century, the Pope was the largest feudal lord in Italy. In his hands were 23 estates, with an area of 85 thousand square kilometers. And all this is at the expense of people who decided to give their lands to the church.
    Byzantium had weakened by that time, and the Pope became the only defender of Rome.

    For Russia itself, the fall of Byzantium was a heavy blow, because Byzantium was the mentor and teacher of the Orthodox faith for Russia, and Russia was its student. Having lost its teacher, Russia took on this succession and from a student became a teacher. Holy Rus' became the guardian and continuer of Orthodox Christianity and its true purity – hence the saying “Moscow is the Third Rome”. Russia still preaches the Orthodox faith throughout the world.
    Moscow, third Rome: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_third_Rome

    🍇☦About Orthodoxy: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1677293

    THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POPE

    The average person associates the Pope with something spiritual, holy, good, kind. He is supposedly a follower of the Apostle Peter. But this is only, so to speak, a wrapper.
    The inner workings of the Vatican are completely different.

    Here are a few examples, so to speak, of the life of the Catholic Church and its high priest, which clearly show that this religious institution is just as vicious as any person in power.

    Such a case: Pope Stephen VI once ordered to dig up the already withered Pope Formosus, dress him in papal robes and hold a trial over him.
    The corpse was accused of violating church rules, and all his reforms were declared invalid.
    Stephen cursed the dead man and cut off three of his fingers, with which he crossed himself.
    The naked body of Formosus was dragged through the streets and buried in a mass grave.

    And then there was Pope Sergius III, who strangled his two predecessors after his coronation.
    But he became famous for being the first pope of the era of pornocracy. At that time, the pontiffs were under the influence of two rich harlots - Theodora and her daughter Marozia. They awarded their best lovers with papal titles.

    Let me remind you that in addition to the fact that the pope is, as it were, a priori sinless, he also takes a vow of celibacy. But this did not prevent the popes from making a real den out of the Lateran Palace.

    Thus, John XII, the grandson of Marozia, was more interested in women than in anything else. They say that the history of the church has never known a more immoral pontiff. While playing dice, John called on pagan gods, and when he was drunk, he raised toasts to Satan.

    And Pope Benedict IX sold the Holy See altogether. He was pope three times and left office for the first time in 1044, when his family lost the struggle for power in Rome. But soon the situation changed, and Benedict returned. True, a month later he sold the title in order to marry his sister. Two years later he became pope again and was eventually excommunicated for selling church positions.

    Before the schism, the Bishop of Rome (the Pope) was considered the first of the five supreme Christian bishops: Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem. Over time, the rivalry between the bishops of Rome and Constantinople increased, which led first to a temporary schism in the 9th century, and then to a final schism in 1054.

    At the same time, before the schism, all local churches, including Rome, were equal. Orthodox churches do not recognize the supremacy of the pope, because they believe that absolute power in the church belongs only to Jesus Christ, and the highest authority in the earthly church is possessed by the council.

    Before the split of the church into Catholic and Orthodox, several holy popes were venerated, who are equally venerated by both faiths. Among them are Clement I, Gregory I the Great, Leo IX and Martin I. And these were truly righteous people who would be horrified by what kind of Popes would occupy their throne in the future and that they would cause a great schism between Christians. You can read separately what the Popes of Rome were famous for before the great schism.

    I will talk about Nazi popes later, but here I can’t help but mention the, so to speak, reptilians.

    Do you know why, among other things, there are conspiracy theories about the world being ruled by mystical creatures - reptilians?

    There is a building in the Vatican called the papal audience hall, which is made in the form of a snake’s head. Look at the photo from the outside, there is a resemblance, right?


    The Papal Audience Hall, exterior view, compared to the reptile's head

    The shape of the head, the eyes. But inside it's even more interesting: if you look inside, it turns out that dad is broadcasting from the head of a reptile.


    The Papal Audience Hall - Inside View

    Here's an interesting fact.

    THE STRUGGLE FOR POWER

    It is also worth mentioning the methods by which the Catholic Church fought for the faith. Of course, they are also difficult to consider normal. For example, the Crusades against dissenters, which lasted for four centuries. The number of deaths is difficult to estimate, but they say the figure is from 1 million people. This is what the desire to subjugate other lands and establish one's influence leads to.

    In the 13th century, the Inquisition was officially added to the campaigns, which allowed the torture of those suspected of heresy, i.e., of deviating from the rules of faith, which were considered the only correct ones.


    And all this cruelty took place with the papal instigation.

    In addition, the popes were not averse to remitting sins for money. So they granted indulgences to those who participated in the Crusades. Those who could not go to war were offered to pay a certain amount. Later, indulgences were given to those who donated to the construction of St. Peter's Cathedral.

    In general, it was the sinfulness of the pontiffs that became one of the reasons for the emergence of Protestantism. That is, some people looked at what the papal institution was doing and said: "Oh my! We'd better come up with something of our own." Thus Martin Luther created his own personal church with his own understanding and heresy, abolishing all the sacraments and liturgies that had a centuries-old history, instead of joining the true One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ (Orthodox Church).

    In addition, the Popes, like the leaders of other countries, started wars in Europe.

    Thus Pope Gregory IX was the first to start a war against Emperor Frederick, as a result of which Frederick renounced his power over the church and affirmed papal rights.

    The popes wanted to be above the kings so much that they came up with the doctrine of two swords, according to which there are two powers in the state - spiritual and secular, and both are in the hands of the pope. But they transfer the secular to the emperor, whom they anoint to the kingdom.

    Based on this, only the Pope can appoint and overthrow rulers. Even by force.

    ➡️ It should be added that the papacy has always had its own people's army.
    But after a series of wars in 1506, a detachment of Swiss mercenaries was created - some of the best warriors on the continent at that time. The Swiss Guard, about 100 people, still serves the Vatican.

    The Papal States existed until Italy decided to unite. Specifically, until 1870, when troops entered Rome and put an end to a thousand years of papal power.

    The offended pope stubbornly refused to put up with this. He declared himself a moral prisoner and locked himself in the Vatican Cathedral. This continued for almost 50 years, until the fascists led by Mussolini came to power in Italy.

    In 1929, the parties signed the Lateran Agreement, according to which the Vatican State was formed, and Catholicism became the official religion of Italy.


    Lateran treaties

    The authors of the agreement proceeded from the idea of the universal character of the Catholic Church: the Pope belongs to the whole world, and it is not fitting for him to be simply a citizen of Italy.

    Mussolini himself was an atheist, but he changed his tune successfully. Italy is a religious state, and by enlisting the support of the Church, he won over Catholic Christians.

    In response, the Church became an ally of the fascist party on many fronts and forbade parishioners from supporting the Communists.
    In 1930, the Pope proclaimed a crusade against the godless USSR.


    It gets even more fun.
    In 1933, when Hitler came to power, a treaty was concluded between the Holy See and Germany, according to which the Vatican was granted freedom in resolving church issues.

    Thus, the Holy See supported the fascist regime.

    In essence, the Pope made a deal with the devil, because Nazi ideology and Christian values are incompatible.

    The Holy See justified itself by saying that it had to choose: either agree or put the church in the Reich under threat of destruction.

    In 1939, Pius XII became Pope, even more loyal to the fascist regime. He is also called Hitler's Pope. US President Franklin Roosevelt tried to convince Pius to declare Germany an aggressor. But he refused under the pretext that he could not interfere in international politics.


    Pius XII and Hitler

    Pius declared neutrality and watched as the Nazis took over countries, killed thousands of people, and never publicly condemned it.

    Let me remind you that World War II began with an attack on Poland, where more than 65% of the population were Catholic.
    The Pope also did not condemn the Holocaust, citing the fact that he allegedly did not know what was happening there.

    Of course, Pius expressed concern about racially motivated killings. And he even allowed churches to cautiously help Jews.
    But he also knew that Catholic priests had joined the Ustasha and were killing Orthodox Christians in Croatia. The same Ustasha who had slaughtered about 800,000 Serbs.
    He knew, but he said nothing.

    And thousands of Nazi criminals fled along the “rat trails” that were supposedly created to save Catholics and Jews, i.e. A huge number of Nazi criminals fled from justice through the Vatican.

    Well, and then the war ended, and the Pope remained with his power and lands.

    Well, and Pope Benedict XVI, he generally served in the SS troops, as did his relatives. That is, he was a real Nazi.


    Pope Benedict XVI

    True, he later deserted when Hitler began to lose the war. But the fact remains.

    After World War II, hostility to communism made the Vatican an ally of the United States in the fight against the USSR.

    The Pope approved the formation of the military bloc NATO and the Western European Union.

    And in 1949, he excommunicated the communists and all those who help them.

    ➡️ Today, the Holy See has diplomatic relations with 184 states.
    ➡️ It is also a permanent observer at the UN with the right to vote.
    ➡️ The Pope is actively involved in world politics and positions himself as a fighter for human rights freedom.

    So in 2023, the Pope allowed same-sex marriages to be blessed.

    WHAT IS THE VATICAN IN WORLD POLITICS

    In general, the Vatican is considered one of the leaders of the Western elite, which consists of two groups.

    ⏩ The first is the Anglo-Saxons and the Jews, conditionally the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
    ⏩ The second is the Habsburgs and the aristocrats of northern Italy and southern Germany.

    And the leader of the aristocrats is the Pope.

    These groups are sometimes friends, sometimes they are in conflict. They are friends, for example, against someone. For example, against the USSR, they were united then.

    It is not surprising that before officially surrendering the USSR, Gorbachev met first with Pope John Paul II, and then with Bush Sr. in Malta in 1989.

    That is, first he reported to the aristocrats, and then to the Anglo-Saxons. The latter, apparently, will be lower in the hierarchy.

    In terms of political projects, the Vatican is involved in the creation of a single world order.



    There are illusions in the world, and there are real mechanisms of power. While politicians wave flags, hold debates and sign useless treaties, real decisions are made in places where news cameras don’t look.
    The Vatican is not just a city-state with a rich history. It is one of the oldest and most influential organizations on the planet, possessing not only spiritual, but also political, financial and intelligence power.
    And if you think that the Pope is just a kind grandfather in a white robe who preaches about kindness and peace, then… it’s time to lift the curtain and look into the depths of the game.

    World government: myth or inevitability?

    First, let’s ask ourselves: what is a “world government” anyway?
    Is it a conspiracy theory?
    – Of course! Anything that is not told in official textbooks is called a conspiracy theory.
    Is it reality?
    – Oh, and how! It's just called something else: "inclusive capitalism," "global governance," "the great reset."
    Is it happening right now?
    - Yes. And if you don't notice it, then you're just not looking in the right direction.
    It all comes down to control. And who on Earth can control the masses better than a structure that has controlled hundreds of millions of people for centuries?
    Yes, the Vatican.

    The Vatican's Power: Hidden Levers of Control

    Anyone who thinks that the Catholic Church is just a religious organization greatly underestimates its capabilities.
    Finance
    - The Vatican Bank is one of the most secretive in the world. Billions of dollars, real estate all over Europe and the United States, connections to major corporations.
    Intelligence
    - Jesuit orders, secret structures that have been collecting information for hundreds of years.
    Politics
    – The Vatican influences elections, lobbies laws, establishes contacts with the elites of all countries of the world.
    Spiritual control
    – Influencing people's consciousness, explaining to them that "this is how it should be" is an invaluable tool.
    But what do these spheres have in common? They create a system in which the world can be quietly controlled.

    The Council for Inclusive Capitalism: The Vatican's Project for World Governance

    Have you ever heard of the Council for Inclusive Capitalism?
    No? That's strange. After all, this is a real attempt to create a world government.
    Who is at the head of the Council?
    – Pope Francis.
    Who are the members of the Council?
    – The largest corporations on the planet: JPMorgan Chase, Visa, Mastercard, Johnson & Johnson, Merck, Allianz and others.
    What are they doing?
    – They are "reformatting" the world economy to fit their model.
    Sounds like something large-scale? And it is.

    How does hidden power work?

    World government is not a cabinet where elders in black robes gather. It is a network of interconnected structures that control key areas of life.
    How is it created?
    Control over money
    – If you control money, you control everything. The Vatican with its assets and connections plays an important role here.
    Manipulation through fear
    – “Crises,” “wars,” “pandemics” are tools for making people ask for a new order.
    Creation of a “single morality”
    – When all people have the same values, they become manageable.
    It is the Vatican, as a spiritual center, that plays a key role in the formation of this “moral paradigm.”

    Why does the Vatican benefit from a world government?

    Returning the power of the church
    – For centuries, the Vatican ruled kings and emperors. Today, it wants to do the same, only on a global level.
    Control over resources
    – Money, information, influence – all of this is concentrated in the hands of a small group of people.
    Destruction of nation states
    – The fewer sovereign countries there are, the easier it is to control the world.
    What model are they offering us?
    – Centralized control. One law for everyone. One leader. One religion.
    All of this is slowly but surely moving towards its implementation. Catholics strive for ecumenism - the unification of all Christian beliefs into one single faith.
    Here is what the former Patriarch of Moscow and All Rus' Alexy II said about ecumenism:
    "The Orthodox Church cannot recognize the "equality of denominations." Those who have fallen away from the Church cannot be reunited with it in the state in which they currently find themselves; the existing dogmatic differences must be overcome, and not simply bypassed."


    This is what Catholics say about ecumenism:
    "The essence of Catholic ecumenism does not consist in the rejection of part of its dogma for the sake of creating a compromise doctrine acceptable to all confessions, but in respect for everything in other confessions that does not contradict the existing Catholic dogma."


    The Anglican Church is actively developing the ecumenical movement and practicing an open approach. You can come to this church and partake of their Sacraments without changing your faith. Simply because you also confess Christ and the dogma of God as the Trinity. Which is heresy. It is impossible to partake of communion or pray with heretics who do not recognize and deny your dogmas of faith. And in general, how can you sing the same song in the choir when you sing completely different songs?

    Orthodox Holy Fathers on Ecumenism (there are many, I will show some):

    🔔...The devil has cast his nets to catch all of humanity. He wants to catch the rich with Freemasonry, the poor with Communism, and the faithful with ECUMENISM. (St. Paisios the Athonite)

    🔔...Never, O man, is what pertains to the Church corrected through compromises: there is no middle ground between truth and falsehood. (St. Mark of Ephesus)

    Revelation: what is hidden behind the veil?

    And here is the main question: what will happen when this process is completed?
    History shows that any centralized power always develops into a dictatorship.
    The Vatican plays more than just the role of a spiritual center. It is the main ideological architect of a new world model.
    But the problem is that the global order does not tolerate independent players.
    And that means…
    Sooner or later, the one who builds an empire becomes its prisoner.

    Advice to readers: be an architect, not a victim

    There are always those in the world who govern and those who are governed.
    But the worst thing is not even management, but not knowing that you are being managed.
    You can:
    Accept everything that is said on TV and believe in “good” globalization.
    Ask questions, look for information, see hidden connections.
    The choice is yours.
    But know one thing:
    If you think that everything in the world happens by chance...
    Then you simply haven’t looked behind the curtain.



    The Vatican's connection with the Freemasons Or How Masons and Illuminati Destroy the Catholic Faith

    Freemasons and Illuminati - One World Government and their protocols: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1664211

    As we have found out, the Vatican is gradually blurring the boundaries between the sexes of men and women, approving LGBT with same-sex marriages (which goes against the teachings of Christ).





    Currently, the Vatican is conducting a large-scale campaign to create a single world religion that would unite not only all varieties of Christianity, but all world religions as a whole (which also goes against the teachings of Christ).



    The idea that "all religions are just different paths leading to one God" is being promoted and propagated throughout the world. This song is sung by all Masons and their minions; to oppose it means to be labeled as a dark and ignorant person. Meanwhile, Jesus Christ said directly:

    "I am the door: whoever enters in by Me will be saved... All that have not come before Me are thieves and robbers..." (John 10:8-9).

    Jesus said to him: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father except through Me." (Gospel of John, chapter 14, verse 6)

    So, the God-man Jesus Christ speaks about the uniqueness of Christianity, about the fact that one can be saved only by following His Teachings and commandments:

    "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved; but whoever does not believe will be condemned" (Mark 16:15-16).

    Thus, the ideas of the Pope clearly contradict the words of Christ. The goal of his actions is to completely destroy Christianity and especially Orthodoxy as the last spiritual stronghold, a fortress standing in the way of the coming of the antichrist into the world. The mystery of lawlessness cannot be accomplished until the number of true Orthodox is reduced to one minimum known to God.

    Freemasonry as a force opposed to Christianity makes every effort to destroy the latter. The data given below clearly illustrate the truthfulness of our words. Here is what the famous American writer and publicist W. Cooper writes about the influence of Freemasonry on the Vatican (X.23, ch.2).

    "The Illuminati have been infiltrating the Vatican for many years. This can be easily proven by the fact that in 1738 Pope Clement XII issued a decree ordering that if a Catholic joins the Freemasons, he will be excommunicated and severely punished.

    In 1884, Pope Leo III issued an encyclical stating that the Freemasons are one of the secret societies trying to revive the "traditions and customs of the pagans" and "establish the kingdom of Satan on earth."

    Pierre Compton in his book "The Broken Cross" traces the infiltration of the Illuminati into the Catholic Church.

    He found the use of the "all-seeing eye in a triangle" sign by Catholic and Jesuit leaders. The symbol was present on the seal of the Philadelphia Eucharistic Congress in 1976. The same symbol was present on the Vatican stamps intended for the publication of the dated 1978, declaring the final victory of the Illuminati in the world.

    Mr. Compton stated that this sign was on the cross of Pope John VIII. Compton is adamant that several HUNDRED leading Catholic priests, cardinals, are members of secret societies. He quotes an article in the Italian Jornal, which lists more than seventy Vatican officials, including the personal secretary of Pope Paul VI, the general director of Radio Vatican, the Pontiff of Florence, the assistant editor of the Vatican newspaper, several priests and abbots of the Order of St. Benedict. These are only the ones who are known, and those who are known in Italy.

    It is widely believed that Pope John Paul II is a member of the Illuminati. I believe this, because I have done my own research.

    The best indication of the Illuminati's penetration of the Vatican is that on November 27, 1983, the Pope abolished all papal decrees against Freemasons and allowed Catholics, after several hundred years of prohibition, to become members of secret societies without fear of excommunication.” As another researcher of Freemasonry, J.V. Helsing:

    "That the current Pope is familiar with the secret language of the Freemasons is not only "obviously" proven by the "Freemasons' handshake" (a special handshake by which initiates recognize each other), but also by his speech in one of the general audiences on September 15, 1982. During it, he spoke about the death of the Lebanese President Gemayel, about Jerusalem as the city of God (author's note - the place where Jesus Christ preached, died and was resurrected), and said literally the following:

    "Jerusalem can also become the "City of Man".

    "City of Man" is one of the key definitions of the Illuminati regarding the world dictatorship. On April 18, 1983, the Pope received the entire "TRIPARTITE COMMISSION", approximately 200 people in an open audiences.

    This secret organization was founded in June 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski, because such structured organizations as, for example, the UN, turned out to be too slow in establishing a "World Government". This elite organization set itself the task of uniting all the major forces of the economic and industrial giants, the so-called trilateral nations - the United States, Japan and Western Europe - to force the final establishment of the "New World Order".

    As J.V. Helsing testifies, it was "During the Second World War, the Catholic Church was heavily infiltrated by other secret lodges. Among others, these were the OSS (the predecessor of the CIA), MI 6, members of the Italian "BLACK NOBILITY", Freemasons and the P-2 (Propaganda-2) lodge, all of which were under the cover of the "Committee 300".

    Lodge P-2 is the most powerful Italian lodge of Freemasons. It incorporated the "GRAND LODGE OF THE VATICAN", which initiated the "P-2 Scandal" in 1976, since the Vatican compiled a list of lodge members with the names and dates of entry of 121 high hierarchs of the Church, among whom were cardinals of the curia, archbishops, bishops, prelates and laymen. Instead of holding accountable the people mentioned in this list, a real witch hunt was organized, persecuting those who published this list. Any comments seem superfluous.

    Among the names mentioned there was the name of the cardinal, Secretary of State Jean Villot, Vatican Foreign Minister Agostino Casaroli. Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio, Cardinal Ugo Poletti and the head of the Vatican Bank Bishop Paul Marcinkus.

    The Illuminati, as already mentioned, support both sides when several countries are involved in a war. By the end of World War II, this was revealed in all its openness. Allen Dulles (Director of the CIA), for example, held secret meetings with the head of the SS Gehlen.

    The necessary steps were taken to transport SS officers to Switzerland under the cover of the Catholic Church. Some SS officers took priestly orders and were sent to other countries, mainly Argentina, Paraguay and the USA.

    After the war, Gehlen was given the task of organizing the work of "RADIO STATION FREE EUROPE". A significant part of the SS members were accepted directly into the ranks of the CIA after the war.

    Another interesting member of the "Committee 300" was Joseph Retinger (Ratzinger?). After the war, with the support of the CIA, he tried to conclude treaties with the Vatican. In this matter, he managed to win over Dr. Luigi Gedda, medical adviser to Pope Pius XII, at the same time the head of Catholic activities. With Gedda's help, he was able to strengthen contacts with Pope Pius XII for the future, which had already been discussed between him and the OSS (Office of Strategic Services), the predecessor of the CIA.

    Retinger also met with Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, with the Italian Prime Minister, Colin Grubbin, director of SOE (Special Operations Branch, British Secret Service) and with the Director of the CIA, General Walter Bedell.

    PRINCE BERNHARD had been a member of the SS before the war and in this capacity was assigned to serve in I. G. Farben. He later married a Lister-Biesterfeld and accepted an offer of a position with Shell Oil. This group was the core that met in May 1954 at the Hotel De Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, Holland, and later became known as the "BILDERBERGER" group.

    A member of the "Committee 300", Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands became the first leader of the Bilderberg group (explained later).

    One of the CIA men who had great influence on the Catholic Church was Cardinal Spellman. Incidentally, it was Spellman who helped the CIA overthrow the democratic government in Guatemala in 1954. Spellman was also the man who introduced Father Paul Marcinkus of Chicago to the Pope.

    In 1971, Marcinkus became an archbishop and director of the VATICAN BANK. Marcinkus also maintained close ties with P2 Masonic lodge members Michele Sindona and Roberto Calvi. P2 Grandmaster was Licio Gelli. Calvi Director of the VATICAN BANK AMBROSIANO, helped the Vatican transfer over $100 million in aid to the Polish Solidarity movement.

    Some time later, he was involved in a serious scandal with the Banca Ambrosiano. In 1982, Calvi's body was found hanged on the Blackfriars Bridge in London. He had a brick in his right and left pockets, and his legs were tied at right angles. This is exactly what a ritual murder of Freemasons looked like. This special sign, however, was not mentioned in the newspapers.

    Sindona was an adviser to the Vatican Bank. Lodge P-2 was closely connected with the Vatican, Opus Dei and the CIA. Lodge P-2 also had many members who occupied high positions in the Italian government.

    In January 1966, the magazine "Look" published an article:

    "How the Jews are changing the way the Catholic Church thinks." It described in detail the secret meetings of the Jewish lodge B'Nai B'rith with Cardinal Bea, who represented the Catholic Church. The Vatican is supposedly the richest organization in the world. A significant part of its assets are held in the Rothschild banks. There is no doubt that the actual power in the Vatican was seized many years ago by the "Committee of 300". This explains why Bush, Gorbachev and other world leaders visit the Pope so often.

    These few examples are only the very tip of the "Vatican iceberg". Another example was the assassination of Pope John XXIII, whose death notice in the Mexican newspaper "El Informador", owned by the West Mexican Lodge of Freemasons, by an oversight, appeared a whole day before the event itself! (Published June 3, 1963, Pope John died June 3, 1963, at 7:49 p.m.

    There is an interesting book about this: "In the Name of God", by David A. Yallop.

    As W. Cooper points out (X.23, Ch.2): "The Vatican established the Center for Prayer and Teaching for Peace on Ocean Avenue, Springlake, New Jersey in a mansion overlooking the ocean. The mansion was given from the estate of Elmer Bost, who died in 1978. Bost was a multimillionaire and director of the Warner Lambert Company. Richard Nixon was a frequent visitor to the center. The directors of the center were: Kurt Walheim, former Secretary General of the United Nations and a war criminal of World War II; Cyrus Vanes, former Secretary of State under Carter and a member of the Council of Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission; Clare Luce, Lady of the Knights Malta; Peter Grace, who is the head of the Knights of Malta in the United States.

    The center was founded by the Vatican as part of the Pope's reconciliation plan (see the chapter "Secret Government"). The center had two purposes:

    1) To educate Catholics and their children in the spirit of maintaining the New World Order

    2) To house a computer center to solve global problems of the world and any problems that could threaten peace on Earth. The computer was connected via satellite to the capitals of the world. All nations agreed to give sovereignty to the Pope and entrust the solution of problems to the computer. Of course, all this will not have the desired effect until the New World Order is announced. I think that the New World Order was born in secret on January 19, 1989. Now you know.

    Familiarize yourself with the teachings of Christ. Compare His teachings with the dogmas of the Illuminati, and then try to compare them with the following. The Vatican has stated several times that "The Pope is for universal disarmament; the Pope is for the abolition of the sovereignty of national state entities; the Pope says that human rights are not really rights in their essence; the Pope believes that only the Vatican knows what man needs. The Los Angeles Times of December 12, 1984, printed the words of Pope John Paul II: “Don’t go to God for forgiveness of sins, come to me for it.” The Pope has committed blasphemy, therefore the prophecy of the Apocalypse is being fulfilled. The Pope tells us THAT HE IS God! “Pope John Paul II is especially concerned about achieving his goal. The goal is to unite Christendom under the rule of the Pope. If at all possible, the Pope wants to achieve his goal by the end of this century. This is one of the main reasons for the Pope’s numerous trips around the world.” (from an article by G. Hogberg, November/December 1989, Plain Truth).”


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    Mostly so.

    A few additional points are that all that stuff about Peter was made up.

    It caused Rome to exit Christianity -- that's not what it is.

    It arbitrarily changed the Nicene Creed by attaching the Filioque, which is a contradictory presentation of Spirit. It went down its own path considerably before 1054.

    During those early times, Rome was a backwater. Everything of intellectual significance (e. g., the Nicene Council) was dominated by the Greek sphere, i. e., that which eventually entered New Byzantium or Russia.

    The Roman installation of Bishops is exactly what caused Europe's un-intellectual Dark Age, and was still the problem during the German unification issues in the 1700s. Catholic bishops and social engineering.

    The power of Jesuitry is not to be underestimated; it is still behind one world currency.

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    If your post is about the Vatican attempting to establish a global government, I must disagree. While Catholics often view the Church as influential in their personal and social lives, very few seek political guidance from the Vatican. Currently, there are 1.5 billion Catholics worldwide and another 500 million Christians who look to the Pope for spiritual leadership. That is a substantial chunk of the world population. Muslims generally hold the Pope and the Vatican in respect but if you think that even one Muslim of the 1.9 billion in the world would give alms to St Peter's keeper, you're not thinking clearly. If the Vatican attempted to move towards a global government which they would oversee, it would likely lose much of its influence and the loyalty of its followers — potentially leading to the decline if not the extinction of Catholicism as a whole.

    If you are speculating about who wants to sit atop the global government, I believe there is an obvious, easy answer: China. Everything they do and every political strategic move they make is directed towards global governance. Xi Jinping has openly stated that he wants the world to move towards a global government. China has tenacles that reach deep into many of the global organizations, such as the World Trade Organization, New Development Bank (BRICS Bank), International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank, to name just a few.

    If you need proof, just look at how the pandemic was handled by China. They completely controlled the World Health Organization, and to this day, they have NOT been forthcoming about how or where the pandemic started. There were a lot of bad actors during the pandemic, especially drug companies and governments around the world, but the Chinese were by far the worst players in the game, and they are amazingly getting a free pass. A lot of people, myself included, believe that China unleashed the pandemic to gauge the world's reaction. I also believe that they plan a different but similar event in the future. The next time, they will be standing by with a quick fix, so the world will look towards them for leadership.

    China is already exerting a great deal of influence over Russia, and the Belt and Road initiative is nothing more than an effort to buy influence around the world. Call it what you want, the reunification of Hong Kong and the upcoming reunification of Taiwan and China's continued provocative posturing in the China Sea towards it neighbors is nationalist or, more precisely, imperialistic.

    I think people and governments need to be extremely cautious about where they put their alliance. Global Governance is sneaking up on the world and it is not coming from the Vatican or the USA. Just ask yourself who has the most to gain from the establishment of a Global One World Government.

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    Quote Posted by rgray222 (here)
    If your post is about the Vatican attempting to establish a global government, I must disagree. While Catholics often view the Church as influential in their personal and social lives, very few seek political guidance from the Vatican. Currently, there are 1.5 billion Catholics worldwide and another 500 million Christians who look to the Pope for spiritual leadership. That is a substantial chunk of the world population. Muslims generally hold the Pope and the Vatican in respect but if you think that even one Muslim of the 1.9 billion in the world would give alms to St Peter's keeper, you're not thinking clearly. If the Vatican attempted to move towards a global government which they would oversee, it would likely lose much of its influence and the loyalty of its followers — potentially leading to the decline if not the extinction of Catholicism as a whole.

    If you are speculating about who wants to sit atop the global government, I believe there is an obvious, easy answer: China. Everything they do and every political strategic move they make is directed towards global governance. Xi Jinping has openly stated that he wants the world to move towards a global government. China has tenacles that reach deep into many of the global organizations, such as the World Trade Organization, New Development Bank (BRICS Bank), International Monetary Fund, and the World Bank, to name just a few.

    If you need proof, just look at how the pandemic was handled by China. They completely controlled the World Health Organization, and to this day, they have NOT been forthcoming about how or where the pandemic started. There were a lot of bad actors during the pandemic, especially drug companies and governments around the world, but the Chinese were by far the worst players in the game, and they are amazingly getting a free pass. A lot of people, myself included, believe that China unleashed the pandemic to gauge the world's reaction. I also believe that they plan a different but similar event in the future. The next time, they will be standing by with a quick fix, so the world will look towards them for leadership.

    China is already exerting a great deal of influence over Russia, and the Belt and Road initiative is nothing more than an effort to buy influence around the world. Call it what you want, the reunification of Hong Kong and the upcoming reunification of Taiwan and China's continued provocative posturing in the China Sea towards it neighbors is nationalist or, more precisely, imperialistic.

    I think people and governments need to be extremely cautious about where they put their alliance. Global Governance is sneaking up on the world and it is not coming from the Vatican or the USA. Just ask yourself who has the most to gain from the establishment of a Global One World Government.
    Indeed, China's control of the epidemic is incredible. A big country can manage a sudden outbreak in a short period of time. The "Huoshenshan" Hospital and the "Leishshan" Hospital were completed in just a few days. This efficiency and quality have greatly improved China's influence and leadership. We can't help but wonder: Where does such efficiency and quality come from?
    Why is China always so "special"? How did a country in a time when it was penniless in the mid-20th century walk through hundreds of years of the West in just a few decades? And he has joined various international organizations and gained such great influence?
    If China was really a glorious and holy image, they would not have achieved what they are today, the same is true for the Vatican and the United States.
    To some extent, World War III has begun.

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    I edited the article about the Vatican's influence on politics and the connection with the Masons, you can start reading the new addition with the picture - a pyramid with an eye. https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1677275

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    I edited the article so that you could better understand my thoughts and what I want to say, I took your comment into account.

    China is certainly great, they have made good reforms and raised their economy, penetrating many areas and are leaders in this.

    But China did not provoke the pandemic. This was done by the Masonic American intelligence agencies themselves. Do you know that the Pentagon developed the coronavirus and blamed everything on the Chinese?

    China is a disciplined country, they solve problems quite harshly.

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    Russia also created the Sputnik V vaccine in a short period of time and supplied it to many countries for assistance. Thanks to Soviet developments, the vaccine was not only made quickly but was also very effective.

    I saw on the news how China was harshly cracking down on violations of isolation. So all issues were resolved quite quickly.

    The Sputnik V vaccine has been registered and approved in various countries, including: Russia, Belarus, Argentina, Bolivia, Serbia, Algeria, Palestine, Venezuela, Paraguay, Turkmenistan, Hungary, UAE, Iran, Republic of Guinea, Tunisia, Armenia, Mexico, Nicaragua, Lebanon, Myanmar, Pakistan, Mongolia, Bahrain, Montenegro, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Gabon, San Marino, Ghana, Syria, Kyrgyzstan, Guyana, Egypt, Honduras, Guatemala, Moldova, Slovakia, Angola, Djibouti, Republic of the Congo, Sri Lanka, Laos, Iraq, North Macedonia, Kenya, Morocco, Jordan.
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    Quote Posted by Russian Bear (here)
    I edited the article so that you could better understand my thoughts and what I want to say, I took your comment into account.

    China is certainly great, they have made good reforms and raised their economy, penetrating many areas and are leaders in this.

    But China did not provoke the pandemic. This was done by the Masonic American intelligence agencies themselves. Do you know that the Pentagon developed the coronavirus and blamed everything on the Chinese?

    China is a disciplined country, they solve problems quite harshly.

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    I am thinking of completely translating this site into English and publishing it on the forum, since many people have it simply blocked, I advise you to translate it and read it.
    Great rundown Russian Bear, appreciate your take on the Vatican. It's always seemed like the head of the snake to me. I don't pretend to know much about history, though Napolean may have been onto something, but when it comes to China, Russia, America, and everything in between, I would think that the strings are being pulled from a higher, more remote, undetectable standpoint, one not reliant on presidents, prime ministers, or any government stooges that come and go. In fact, I would posit that all governments across this world have been subverted by those same powers that have never been elected, have rarely been questioned, and go mostly unobserved by all but the most vigilant of citizens these days who are then summarily targeted, mocked, imprisoned or taken out altogether for their acumen. There are no governments anymore, just corporations and ngo's masquerading as said entities. To view any government, and especially the populations of those countries, as responsible for what's happening on the grand chessboard of stupid clusterf@ck horrible decisions taking place today to the detriment of every, sorry, I can't say citizen, because we're humans made in the image of God, not in the image of government, human being is simply not taking the bigger picture into account. Who controls the past controls the future. The Vatican, still to this day, controls the history of humanity. They have our records, they keep it near under human remains, they are the head of the snake...

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    If your post is about the Vatican attempting to establish a global government, I must disagree. While Catholics often view the Church as influential in their personal and social lives, very few seek political guidance from the Vatican.

    It's no longer about Catholicism.

    As an example the American Jesuit of Kentucky ca. 1890s.

    On the one hand, this is how Las Vegas came to be, and several other things. The main part of the theory is to work with any weak, watered-down form of Jesus.

    That is to say, every non-Orthodox erstwhile "follower of Jesus" whatsoever.

    And so if I look at the NFL, is that "targeted" to Catholics?

    Not really.

    The Catholics I have known told me they don't believe everything that comes from the pulpit. That means they are not really even Catholics. They just go there. Unless something has changed recently, most Italian Catholic households are devoid of the Bible.


    Otherwise, until the 1600s, Europe was a Catholic mono-culture, and what changed was the Jesuit copying of a significant portion of Analects of Confucius.

    This was respectful, and, it is realistic to say that, in most places, the first one or three Jesuit missions were benign, because the order is largely based in normal human beings, some of whom made useful discoveries or inventions, etc., and so at first this was great. But eventually Jesuits got kicked out of every country they entered because of meddling in the affairs.

    From that point developed the concept of the Enlightened Monarch, which, notably, has no British examples but it does happen in Russia. This is at the same time with the same balance of powers idea that America is "famous" for, but, it's not American. At the time, it was an American response to the same philosophies that some monarchs voluntarily adopted.

    Early America and Russia were friendly enough, and were not Jesuitical plebiscites.





    In response to the OP, the Bavarian Illuminati arose in controversy of German Bishop Electors. The organization was disbanded. It's not honest to carry that forward as the name of something.

    On the other hand, P2 was a "local chapter" of Opus Dei, which largely comes out of Spain. The birth of the true Fascist war machine as we know it, comes from Rockefeller -- Standard Oil getting in league with Fiat and Italian National Oil and getting the Italians to attack Ethiopia. It didn't work!

    Together with this was created a Steel Cartel that by the 1930s controlled 85% of steel in the world. In this, you have trans-nationalism, i. e., groups of men who are no longer French or Germans, but have dedicated allegiance to the power of corporatism.

    At the time, this had a huge Catholic power base, but no, it's not the original Jesuitry in "convert or die" mode. It's hospitals, universities, and so on.


    So when we get to things like this:


    Quote The idea that "all religions are just different paths leading to one God" is being promoted and propagated throughout the world. This song is sung by all Masons and their minions; to oppose it means to be labeled as a dark and ignorant person.

    it's a bit of a broad brush.

    It's not quite correct because Anti-Masonry is (a) Jesuitry, (b) the American Anti-Masonic Party, whose descendants are the Whigs and then the Republicans, and (c) the British Union of Fascists.

    Masons don't have minions singing songs.

    Rather, it is where the "Jewish problem" was discussed, as to whether they have human rights or believe in God or whatever. And so it is correct that you find Jews entering some Protestant Lodges in the 1700s, but none of this lasted. The open door for Jews into Masonic Lodges is a direct consequence of Napoleon. It is about 1814 you can find a Rothschild entering a Lodge in Frankfurt, at a rank that was not entitled to vote.

    Napoleon also defeated the Knights of Malta, from which, one should understand the medieval knighthood order to be dead. A similarly-named organization was re-born on the Italian mainland, no longer the same.

    Napoleon effectively crafted the modern Fascist state by bonding the entire French industry to a war machine.

    In the 1700s, there was such a thing as War Debt that became a cause for future wars, but, this was the king's personal responsibility. Then we see a change in finance whereby this debt is straddled across the shoulders of an entire population.

    Who was the next major player of that game?


    Abraham Lincoln of the United States.

    Then you find this type of iron diktat sweeping Europe, monarchy must be abolished.

    The United States was designed to be vehemently against what Lincoln did.

    There became a National Bank with a policy of issuing bonds, that is, taking loans and going into debt, perpetually, and a large War Debt strapped on to the populace, described simply as "government debt" that the people must pay. This is the Anti-Masonic way. A more appropriate name for the place now would be Lincoln's Empire.

    Italian anti-papal forces such as with Garibaldi understood this.


    It prefers to work by voluntary compliance, which is rapidly achieved by not understanding it.

    The importance is not really the religion, but, the transmission of Immortal Property, as a superior to what we might call moral doctrines. My guess is that is literally what it is. That is to say, primordial Christianity was made of Ecclesia, which is "Assemblies", that is, groups of people who were originally tasked with wandering the streets and assisting the sick or hungry and so on. There were not generally "meeting places" although obviously in some situations, they might find someone's house to convene in. Therefor, the wizardry of the Pope was not so much personal excellence, but the acquisition of some kind of permanent property belonging to an "office". Almost nothing is really known of the early figures said to be popes. But that is the sense I get of the "Rock" it is founded on.

    The quickest way away from it is nationalism, that is, not rabid violence, but, loyalty to a culture which is not part of it, for example Russian. Probably Serbian, but we see from the Fourth Crusade and problems in that region, slaughters of Orthodox are sometimes monolithic, but, historically silent, as if it is not newsworthy such as Jews.
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    When I said Napoleon may have been onto something, I was referring to his longstanding feud with Pope Pius VII over who had ultimate dominion over Rome.

    "In a remark censored by the editors of Napoleon’s correspondence during the Second Empire, Napoleon made clear his vision of the political/spiritual relationship between France and the Papacy: 'Your Holiness is sovereign in Rome, his relations with me are the same as those your predecessors with Charlemagne. You are sovereign in Rome, but I am its Emperor.'"

    In a subsequent letter to the Vatican, Napoleon maintained:

    “Tell them that I have my eyes open. That I am only fooled inasmuch as I let myself be fooled. That I am Charlemagne, the sword of the Church and their Emperor. And that I should be treated as such. […] I have briefly laid out my intentions. If he does not reply, I shall reduce him to the condition of his predecessors before Charlemagne.”

    His act of self-coronation before a sitting Pope is the stuff of legend. But as we all know, and as the article concludes, the snake won out in the end:

    "However in the long battle of wills between Napoleon and Pius VII – in which the excommunication and abduction were in the end only the mid-point – it was the Pontiff who would triumph in the end."

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