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    All I know is that a freemason told me that somewhere on their path they choose between the dark and the light. So, I don't know if the left-hand pathers who turn to the dark side would leave and join parallel dark magic groups? If the shriners are a group within a group, maybe there are others. The top tends to get corrupt, so had to know if they've used some of their power and money to create dark agenda within or elsewhere that lower ranks can't see.

    Ritual involves magick. the shriners are the shrine circus no? The magicians, the entertainers.. Ancient knowledge based on the ancient mystery schools, occult, etc. that came out of egypt and babylon. This is about understanding the deeper nature and machinations of life. Obviously, some are gonna abuse that power.

    If it was so secretive historically, then obviously the dark side would be even more secretive and in the shadows.

    Perhaps certain lodges got taken over by the dark side and masons in other lodges are only seeing lodges that are all rosey

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    The Shriners in our area do a great deal of good for the children... We had a Shriner in the family, he was a well respected member of the community as well, being sheriff of the capital of California... Yes he wore a Fez and drove the mini car in parades too. So his membership was known. And we did have to take one of our children to the Shriners hospital, as he set up an appointment for him... Thank You uncle Jimmy!

    I do believe the Masons and Shriners are keepers of very large secrets, and they have knowledge that many of those on this planet would never have access to, as a result of hundreds and possibly thousands of years of collecting such things, and as a result they would have advantages in situations... But I have never seen them ever do anything that I felt was underhanded with that knowledge.

    Could they use that knowledge for their own gain? Sure... But have I ever experienced one doing such a thing? Never.

    Recently a local friend passed away... One really great friend of ours who happens to be a Mason, was helping to clear his estate... (The second time this year).. This poor guy has a life, his own business and holds a high place in the local Masonic lodge, and spent a great deal of time taking care of his estate.

    He realized that we had started a project with this gentlemen as he saw our business logo in the pile of project once while visiting his workshop... and he knew we had paid him to make some exotic signage for our shop. He stopped everything he was doing and tracked down our property after it had been inadvertantly given away while cleaning out the gentlemens workshop... and returned it all to us...

    He literally tracked down the individual who received the cabinet with our glass and signs, and returned everything to us except for the deposit, which was well deserved at that point due to the time the gentlemen spent on the project... As I stated before, everything was squared up and fair...

    I have to say, it is a pleasure to deal with people that you can trust on a handshake and a word... That is very rare these days, and appreciated!

    I can't say anything bad about the Masons... I've never had anything but great experiences with interacting with these individuals...
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    Yes the way Jack M. put it is mainly how it is.

    The term "free" only refers to admitting persons to Lodge meetings who are not Masons. That's on a historical basis. Numerically it of course has shifted so that most are not stone workers, but this has not changed the underlying essence of "Craft Masonry" of which there are only four degrees, and, the third could be said to be more significant.

    And so if you can get raised to 32 deg Scottish Rite over the weekend at a seminar, do you think there is all that much to it?

    Has anyone extensively studied Morals and Dogma?

    This book was free in the Southern Jurisdiction, and available in the rest of America and Europe. Its traction beyond its origin point is negligible.

    Europeans don't have some kind of special ancient secrets, so Americans don't. Empty bag on that.

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    Quote Posted by Merkaba360 (here)
    Ritual involves magick. the shriners are the shrine circus no? The magicians, the entertainers..

    Perhaps.

    What you are referring to is a nineteenth-century obsession with the Druze.

    Remember the guy who used to walk his lobster in Paris?

    Secondly, the recovery of the Rosetta Stone by Napoleon sparked a mass fervor about Egypt.

    People have been poor Egyptologists even when there were Egyptians to help them:




    Quote Horus the Child was portrayed as a naked boy with his finger to his mouth as if sucking on it, an Egyptian artistic convention for representing a child. Greeks and Romans misunderstood this pose as a gesture of silence and interpreted Harpocrates as the god of secrecy.


    They're not Druze initiates, and whatever they are doing with Egypt is a re-construction. By doing so, for example, the Golden Dawn have mis-aligned the position of Regulus by about five degrees, which is incorrigible.


    Small update. The oldest maps in the world are not of this world:




    Egyptian Coffin Texts are a map of the afterlife, and represent a transition where it is no longer exclusive to Pharaoh.

    There isn't any historical Freemason who was any better at this stuff than someone could be today.

    In actuality, the Druze are the unconverted survivors who emigrated out of Cairo around the year 1,000, mixed with the surviving Canaanite gnostics and therefor residing in an area that straddles modern Syria and Israel.

    So, no, I wouldn't exactly say any secrets that may be kept in Lodges are especially valuable knowledge in this vein. Again, of course, there may be avid interest, and any kind of ritual has some effect on the members. I'm not sure the real problem with P2 was its marble flooring or beliefs about a Black Sun, but that it was the tip of the iceberg of Opus Dei, which is about as Catholic conservative as it gets.

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