Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

[mountain_jim]

https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/1967974165300101595

Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
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Follow the money, the Reddit, Discord, etc., etc. posts, along with DMs, text messages, emails, voicemails, and the link from Charlie Kirk’s assassination to Butler, PA and Thomas Matthew Crooks will become obvious.




Tony Seruga
@TonySeruga
We can throw Ryan Wesley Routh activities leading up to his attempt to assassinate Trump in Miami Beach.

All three cases share eerie parallels including participating in shared radicalization networks where they appear to have communicated within the same groups.

But it gets even more darker. We are investigating a couple of individuals that had DM’d or text messaged all three individuals (some were group chats). What are the chances of that?



https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1967966114626888190

Benny Johnson

@bennyjohnson
BREAKING: FBI Director Kash Patel confirms there are “a lot more” than 20 people in Tyler Robinson’s Discord chat and all are under full FBI investigation.

“We’re also going to be investigating anyone and everyone involved in that Discord chat.”

“We are investigating Charlie's assassination fully and completely and running out every lead related to any allegation of broader violence. And we're producing results on that that will disclose when appropriate.”

[rgray222]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

He makes EXCELLENT points and I agree BUT ... his blind spot is that he uses generalizations too, assuming his take works like a "better template" because of projected generalizing assumptions on millions!

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John, I had never heard of Sahid Bolsen before, so I looked him up, and his background reads like a 2nd rate novel. I feel he's exploiting Charlie Kirk's assassination to make political points for Team Islam. He is nothing more than an opportunist with a hard-line religious and political agenda.

To me, Charlie Kirk did not hold ideologies that disregard the sanctity of human life; quite the opposite. First and foremost, he spent his life asking people to come to God and Christianity. He asked people to openly discuss issues about Christ and his conservative beliefs. He was all about (in my mind) finding the best in people.

I often find that people who accuse others of holding certain harmful ideologies are disguising their own shortcomings. The game is always the same with these guys, hide the message by pretending to hate the game and not the player. It is sleight of hand because no matter how you slice it, the message is always the same - hate. The ideologies and beliefs that Shahid Bolsen holds are harmful to humanity. For instance, he strongly believes and adheres to the application of Sharia laws. This man is attempting to turn the world into a psychological and spiritual torture chamber. He is so full of ideological hate that it is mind-boggling. Let me list a few things that he thinks are just fine for mankind.

Partial list

• Systemic and ungodly discrimination against women (five minutes of research would produce pages of info)
• Stoning for adultery
• Amputation for theft
• Flogging for alcohol consumption
• Saudi Arabia still uses beheading as a primary source for the death penalty
• Capital punishment for gay people
• Inequality of testimony in the legal system
• Inequality of compensation in the legal system
• Sharia law prohibits apostasy, the ability to leave Islam

There is so much more going on here than just Sharia Law and Islam but this thread is about the assassination of Charlie Kirk so I will end it here.

[gini]

' Bassem Youssouf confronts Piers with the double standards & the selective outrage at the 'celebration' of CK death' by the so called woke & 'far left' , and points out how this drama gets politically exploited ,while in the same time "they presented a amendment that bans the Pentagon from boycotting Israel and they even proposed a bill to allow Marco Rubio to revoke citizenship for people critical of israel "-

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x45HxqT198Y

'You Want The World To Think It Was ISRAEL?' Piers Morgan vs Bassem Youssef on Charlie Kirk ------------------------------------
Sep 16, 2025 Piers Morgan Uncensored: US Politics
'Charlie Kirk’s murder has shone an unflattering spotlight on the abject state of discourse and division, especially online, where extreme takes increasingly lead to real world consequences.

Many of the protesters at London’s massive anti-immigration march this weekend brought their fury about Charlie Kirk onto the streets. And at the heart of it all is a bitter blame game in which neither side is in the mood for compromise.
'
Comedian and activist Bassem Youssef returns to Piers Morgan Uncensored to give his take.'



00:00 Introduction and monologue
01:46 Bassem Youssef on Charlie Kirk’s assassination
03:51 The woke ideology
09:04 AD: Ground News - groundnews.com/PIERS for 40% off Vantage subscription
10:10 Bassem Youssef on Oxford Union elect’s expulsion
15:30 Bassem Youssef brings up Marco Rubio’s new bill
19:00 Moral equivalency in the Israel-Gaza war
20:27 AD: Oxford Natural
21:26 Bassem Youssef on Charlie Kirk’s death being a ‘hit job’
30:00 “Call me a conspiracy theorist”
31:53 Elon Musk’s intervention in the ‘Unite the Kingdom’ rally

[Tintin]

Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Many of the comments are begging her to be careful. She's putting her life on the line.

They Are Lying About Charlie Kirk.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=czVBmqZP6Ss

• "Everyone, save this video before it gets taken down".

I've saved it here and will move it to the library at some point

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

If it quacks like a duck...

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1968013025186635883
Nick Sortor
@nicksortor
🚨 JUST IN: George Zinn, the old man arrested at Charlie Kirk’s shooting, has now been charged with possession of CHlLD P0RN

Give this guy the same punishment as Kirk’s ACTUAL kiIIer

He’s already been charged with FELONY obstruction after he admitted to staging a distraction to help the real shooter get away, and is being held without bond.

After his arrest, Zinn complained of chest pains and was transported to the hospital. FBI agents showed up to interview him, and he apparently *volunteered* to them his phone was full of child p*rn

WTF?

[sdv]

The rant against Islam for how women are treated is bizarre, especially as Kirk himself had rather 'outdated' views about women.

Kirk was very outspoken in being against higher education for women, and was very condescending in how he spoke to women in public ... there are many clips that show this. By contrast, Iran, a mostly Muslim country, completely outstrips the USA in terms of the percentage of women versus men in STEM subjects in higher education.

I have also watched clips where Charlie was clearly not listening to a question (in which he was being mildly challenged) but was searching his mind for the programming, which he then rattled off. Like many, he came across as brainwashed when he spoke about his religion, and he leaned quite heavily on the Old Testament.

And his turning against Israel was about 'America First', American dominance and hegemony and not a change of heart and mind about Israel and what it is doing in Gaza. As Candace Owens and Matt Blumenthal have said, there is no evidence at all that Israel was linked to this appalling murder, but they both have been told by sources close to Kirk that he definitely did refuse millions in funding from Israel, refused an invitation to visit Israel from Netanyahu himself (unlike Musk and Rubio), and was put under a lot of pressure under the co-ordination of Ackman.

I also find it very disturbing that Trump (extreme liberals) and Netanyahu (Muslims) immediately put the blame on a group. Both have turned out to be wrong, but I am sure there are brainwashed people out there who took their messages on board and may act on that.

Apologies if I strayed off subject there, but the demonization of Islam is as uninformed and misguided as any demonization of all of Christianity because of the rantings of extremists or the demonization of all of Judaism because of Israel.

[thepainterdoug]

Acturian/ fascinating video. guy does an amazing report. I have to believe this info is already or will find its way to the feds.

[Rizotto]

My question to gun experts here:

Given that the shot was extremely accurate, a well adjusted scope was certainly used. A Mouser's scope needs to be fine-tuned to be accurate, by means of multiple tests. The shooter might have done this fine tuning prior to the shooting.

However, the FBI claims that the shotgun was dismantled prior to the shooter climbing on the roof. And then was reassembled on the roof. At which point there is no opportunity to test the scope.

My question is, wouldn't the disassenbling & reassembling this shotgun compromise the scope's accuracy? Even a 'hairline' shift in the scope would result in the shot missing its target at this long distance. (200 yards, was it?)

[Rizotto]

Posted by sdv (here)
The rant against Islam for how women are treated is bizarre, especially as Kirk himself had rather 'outdated' views about women.

Kirk was very outspoken in being against higher education for women, and was very condescending in how he spoke to women in public ... there are many clips that show this. By contrast, Iran, a mostly Muslim country, completely outstrips the USA in terms of the percentage of women versus men in STEM subjects in higher education.

I have also watched clips where Charlie was clearly not listening to a question (in which he was being mildly challenged) but was searching his mind for the programming, which he then rattled off. Like many, he came across as brainwashed when he spoke about his religion, and he leaned quite heavily on the Old Testament.

And his turning against Israel was about 'America First', American dominance and hegemony and not a change of heart and mind about Israel and what it is doing in Gaza. As Candace Owens and Matt Blumenthal have said, there is no evidence at all that Israel was linked to this appalling murder, but they both have been told by sources close to Kirk that he definitely did refuse millions in funding from Israel, refused an invitation to visit Israel from Netanyahu himself (unlike Musk and Rubio), and was put under a lot of pressure under the co-ordination of Ackman.

I also find it very disturbing that Trump (extreme liberals) and Netanyahu (Muslims) immediately put the blame on a group. Both have turned out to be wrong, but I am sure there are brainwashed people out there who took their messages on board and may act on that.

Apologies if I strayed off subject there, but the demonization of Islam is as uninformed and misguided as any demonization of all of Christianity because of the rantings of extremists or the demonization of all of Judaism because of Israel.

@ Sdv, I agree with most of what you say. Except in the following instances.
- I've recently seen some interview clips of CK stating that Israel is committing "ethnic cleansing" in Gaza, by 'burning people alive (with bombs) and dragging women & children in the streets'. So, CK was definitely seeing the crimes that Israel was committing, although this awareness might have started only in recent months.
- Candace Owen and Max Blumenthal are NOT saying there's no evidence that Israel is involved in CK's assassination. As far as I can see, Candace and Max are saying there is no PROOF of Israel's involvement yet, however there is a whole lot of indications.

It's completely galling of Trump to whip up social unrest against "the radical left". His role is to keep calm and unite the country.
And if Netanyahu blames this assassination on 'radical Islam', we can be sure that this is a LIE. The guy never stops lying.

[Arcturian108]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Acturian/ fascinating video. guy does an amazing report. I have to believe this info is already or will find its way to the feds.

Doug,
You have more faith in the feds than I do at this point. I believe that something about this case is too explosive for the Trump administration, and they are just hoping to pin it all on the young patsy who seems willing to be a hero to his side. The fact that the whole legacy media is going along with this plot, tells me that somebody bigger than Trump is calling the shots. Meanwhile, they are keeping all these videos up on the net to continue the chaos, and satisfy our needs for interesting speculation.

[grapevine]

Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
Here is forensic evidence that we are not being shown by the FBI, or anyone in the media. I believe this video is important:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ltakvGyzfZs

That was an eye-opener and so was this comment under the video:

"Within 5 minutes of the shooting, an unidentified man removes the camera that was mounted behind Charlie. This happened within the tent, he had no law enforcement uniform on and the scene was unsecured. He uses the chair that Charlie had been sat on to stand up to reach the camera. Who in their right mind would do something like this. It is surely evidence tampering. It appears he then possibly removed the SD card and walks off. The footage of him doing this is on the channel of The Body Language Guy. The camera would surely show if the rear entry wound theory is correct, but does law enforcement even know that this evidence was taken/stolen? Was it a member of Charlie's team, or just a random person wandering around an unsecured crime scene? One thing is for certain, the likes of Kash Patel, with zero experience, should not be anywhere near this investigation."

and under that:
"There's video footage on the body language guy channel showing the camera being removed"

and this is the footage they're talking about:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PvtTIW_MDyY

and now I'm wondering whether the camera itself was actually armed . . .

[thepainterdoug]

Aucturian/ there are many working parts to something like this. And in todays world with cameras and surveillance everywhere, one needs to cover their tracks on all sides in so many ways that it is impossible in my opinion, to control all the variables up front.

So who benefits? Trump? So Trump is in on it? trump and all his staff ? Who organized this and for what benefit ?? , and if caught??? what would be the price if a success and a failure ? what of the the disastrous downside? think of all the parts along with the chaos factor, the fog of war ?, that would need to be coordinated and covered up.

No one more than me has studied and endorsed more conspiracy theories , but I dont seek them to prove that all is fake, Im led to them by evidence or lack of. I am not sure in any way what happened, but fascinated with all of this.

at the moment, the vid Silent feathers posted, explaining what happened is what it seems to be and is what I am leaning to.

sometimes it is just what it is

[ExomatrixTV]

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• Bill Ackman Accused of BLACKMAILING Charlie Kirk:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=N0J7qFWqrbI

• Was There a Second Shooter in the Charlie Kirk Attack?:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JA0XvLvXNd4

[thepainterdoug]

john

interesting!! but what if I handed my friend a cigar lighter and then was caught by chance in a murder sequence situation? Now its looked at in a different way than what it was ?
And if its evidence of something related etc, how do you back engineer all the other evidence, the videos, the guy on the roof the admissions of him , his family and so on.

It snowballs out to so many things, and I feel very hard to cover all the bases. Texts, videos, chats, forensics lade da

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
ASo who benefits? Trump? So Trump is in on it? trump and all his staff ? Who organized this and for what benefit ?? , and if caught??? what would be the price if a success and a failure ? what of the the disastrous downside? think of all the parts along with the chaos factor, the fog of war ?, that would need to be coordinated and covered up.

Doug, this is 2025-America's social analog of 9/11.

9/11 was meticulously planned, scripted and executed, with a deliberately heavy emotional element that understandably and very sincerely affected millions of Americans. The intention of the whole traumatic incident was to (a) bring in the PATRIOT Act, and (b) provide the justification for the war against Iraq.
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This is just the same: meticulously planned, scripted and executed, with a deliberately heavy emotional element that understandably and very sincerely has already affected millions of Americans.

What's coming next is (a) a 2025 analog of the PATRIOT Act (likely concerning crackdowns and/or control of free speech, protests, online activity, and much more), and (b) another war: not a shooting war against another nation, but a civil war of a different kind that may or may not become kinetic.

It's another engineered and planned solution to a perceived problem.

Whether it'll work as well as 9/11 did remains to be seen. But while a few are starting to be alert to this, not enough are. Not yet. But this might change if the most influential voices (Candace, Tucker, Elon, Max Blumenthal, and perhaps a dozen more) start to focus on and speak loudly about what's really happening and why.

Trump is being played here, just like many others are, despite their honest best intentions. And I suspect that even if he were to fully realize what's going on he's too personally fearful to do anything about it. He's just not strong enough. His attention is really on his legacy, and on his self-preservation until 2028.

[gini]

'Charlie Kirk Shooting Suspect Charged. Something Isn’t Right…' | Candace Ep 236

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q7f8r-THr84

. Charlie Kirk shooting suspect is charged and some questions remain.

00:00 - Start.
02:03 - The George Zinn decoy update.
06:17 - The indictment is released.
28:26 - Lance Twiggs family reaches out.
40:01 - Charlie's donor pressure.
01:09:48 - Comments.

[rgray222]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
ASo who benefits? Trump? So Trump is in on it? trump and all his staff ? Who organized this and for what benefit ?? , and if caught??? what would be the price if a success and a failure ? what of the the disastrous downside? think of all the parts along with the chaos factor, the fog of war ?, that would need to be coordinated and covered up.

Doug, this is 2025-America's social analog of 9/11.

9/11 was meticulously planned, scripted and executed, with a deliberately heavy emotional element that understandably and very sincerely affected millions of Americans. The intention of the whole traumatic incident was to (a) bring in the PATRIOT Act, and (b) provide the justification for the war against Iraq.
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This is just the same: meticulously planned, scripted and executed, with a deliberately heavy emotional element that understandably and very sincerely has already affected millions of Americans.

What's coming next is (a) a 2025 analog of the PATRIOT Act (likely concerning crackdowns and/or control of free speech, protests, online activity, and much more), and (b) another war: not a shooting war against another nation, but a civil war of a different kind that may or may not become kinetic.

It's another engineered and planned solution to a perceived problem.

Whether it'll work as well as 9/11 did remains to be seen. But while a few are starting to be alert to this, not enough are. Not yet. But this might change if the most influential voices (Candace, Tucker, Elon, Max Blumenthal, and perhaps a dozen more) start to focus on and speak loudly about what's really happening and why.

Trump is being played here, just like many others are, despite their honest best intentions. And I suspect that even if he were to fully realize what's going on he's too personally fearful to do anything about it. He's just not strong enough. His attention is really on his legacy, and on his self-preservation until 2028.

Bill, I am unsure what you mean by an "analog PATRIOT ACT." The statement you provided above is somewhat unclear. Could you please clarify? Additionally, could you specify how you are using the term "kinetic"? Who would stand to benefit from a civil war, and what would be the ultimate goal of such an event? Your insights would be appreciated.

I've read and watched as much as I can about the Charile Kirk assassination, and I have reached a conclusion that works for me, obviously, you and others have reached a different conclusion. It seems to me that this young man stole his grandfather’s rifle and fired a shot that missed badly. He was likely aiming for the head but missed by about 8 to 12 inches.

I also believe that politicians have not only encouraged political violence, but they have openly and repeatedly given these young people permission to commit political assassinations. When they call Trump and his supporters Hitler, Fascist, enemies of the state, racist, and garbage, they are telling their party members to remove these people from society. This young man was not mentally ill or even misguided, he simply did what he was told. Tyler Robinson did nothing more than remove the "existential threat" from society. This statement is not fiction or speculation it is about as factual as it gets.

There is a lot of stuff out there, but nothing I have found is compelling enough to change my mind, although I am still open as more info comes to light.

[thepainterdoug]

Bill Yes and I am on board with 9/11 as with many of those operations. But I have to see it, understand it. I saw building 7, saw the the inconstancies, and saw the flaws , the short selling, the larry silverstein insurance scam, the pentagon falsities along with the testimonies of the W Blowers and on and on . Perhaps its too soon right now but i dont see it. And I dont want to claim everything is a conspiracy theory prior to seeing and knowing it to a reasonable % SO I will wait and compile all.

[gini]

Started streaming 97 minutes ago The Tucker Carlson Show
Megyn Kelly, Scott Adams, Cenk Uygur, and Fr. Josiah Trenham join us for a live broadcast on America in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s assassination—examining his influence on politics and what comes next for our nation. --------------------------------- Tucker Carlson LIVE: America After Charlie Kirk-----------------------------------------------

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V5iCxIu7Syw

[ExomatrixTV]

• Tucker Confronts JD Vance TO HIS FACE Over Charlie Kirk’s Death!:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OaovrHIq9IA

Tucker Carlson recently confronted JD Vance about Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's attempts to appropriate Charlie Kirk’s legacy after his death, calling it “disgusting” and warning against foreign leaders exploiting such tragedies for political gain. Carlson emphasized Kirk’s genuine affection for Israel while opposing endless regime-change wars, showing how he could bridge divides within the conservative movement.

Guest hosts Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss of the Due Dissidence show discuss the intense pressure Kirk faced from donors, particularly regarding Israel, with reports of him rejecting money tied to pro-Israel demands. They argue that Kirk’s growing political infrastructure and potential future influence made the circumstances of his death appear increasingly suspicious, fueling debates within the conservative movement about Israel’s role and influence.