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    im actually sick to my stomach they are just going to close this down.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    I'm Canadian, but if I was a USA citizen I would be out there DEMANDING to see the autopsy report. And the forensic report on the bullet. They're about to convict a young man for this murder, but there's not been solid evidence to even charge him.

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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    Here is forensic evidence that we are not being shown by the FBI, or anyone in the media. I believe this video is important: Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make.
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    Quote Posted by Arcturian108 (here)
    Here is forensic evidence that we are not being shown by the FBI, or anyone in the media. I believe this video is important: Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make.
    That was an eye-opener and so was this comment under the video:

    "Within 5 minutes of the shooting, an unidentified man removes the camera that was mounted behind Charlie. ...
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    Two very interesting video analysis by:
    “Outside the Overton” – with Zeb Boykin, marine and experienced sniper

    September 15, 2025 (this one already posted here by Arcturian at #319 post above)
    Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make.
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    I now retract my weird analysis that I posted (half buried, fortunately) over on the Ben Fulford thread.

    I had not yet watched this Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make. video.

    This video explains the ballooning of Charlies' t-shirt, within a video frame of his being hit ... the cord from his microphone to his ear piece, underneath his t-shirt, being pulled by the ear piece being blown off his ear.

    I now agree that Charlie Kirk is dead. He was shot and killed from his right side, not from the roof in front of Charlie, as officially claimed.

    Whether or not our official law enforcement can get to the bottom of this remains to be seen. Historically, their track record is about like that of a concrete block running the 100 meter dash.

    P.S. -- This video is also on ZebBoykin's Rumble channel, at Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Does anyone know of other wound and ballistics experts other than Zeb Boykin, posted above ,who know and can confirm his exit wound theory? Are most of us going by this one person? Obviously, If C Kirk was shot from behind , this throws the entire story on its head and the reverberations out into so many conundrums for the Feds. is it possible the bullet was spinning erratically for some reason on entry?
    This also puts into question so many people I put faith in to do an honest job in office. So I feel the exit wound theory needs serious study and corroboration from not just a few experts, but many.
    And how do the Feds, along with admin, C Kirks family and related react to this information?? what a mess.

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    I now retract my weird analysis that I posted (half buried, fortunately) over on the Ben Fulford thread.

    I had not yet watched this Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make. video.

    This video explains the ballooning of Charlies' t-shirt, within a video frame of his being hit ... the cord from his microphone to his ear piece, underneath his t-shirt, being pulled by the ear piece being blown off his ear.

    I now agree that Charlie Kirk is dead. He was shot and killed from his right side, not from the roof in front of Charlie, as officially claimed.

    Whether or not our official law enforcement can get to the bottom of this remains to be seen. Historically, their track record is about like that of a concrete block running the 100 meter dash.

    P.S. -- This video is also on ZebBoykin's Rumble channel, at Ballistics don't LIE | A video I didn't want to make
    Thanks ThePythonicCow. The "ballooning of Charlies' t-shirt" was the first thing a lot folks noticed very early on just after the initial raw videos were posted and it was speculated that this was due to the bullet ricocheting off a bullet proof vest and then into his neck. But that was early speculation before any proper analysis was done.

    Also, does anyone know if there has been any analysis done on the disappearing black dot on Charlies' t-shirt and the floating ring that changes fingers and then falls off? Or perhaps the particular video that shows those anomalies was purposefully doctored in order to cause confusion?

    I also checked out Jeff Rense's site and he points out another possible gunman - the brown shirt man on Charlie's left hand side using a "palm pistol" which I haven't seen anyone else mention. I'm not sure what to make of this but I will post it here out of interest:

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    We Last Saw The Brown Shirt Man At The Very End Of Our 9 Second Video Right After Killing Charlie Kirk... And Just Beginning To Vault The Barrier To Get To Charlie And Help Carry Him, With The Others Involved, To The SUV. Remember, There Was NO Paramedic Ambulance Present At The Event - That Was All Part Of The Operation.

    Thanks To One Of Our Listeners, We Have This Remarkable HD Photo Showing The Brown Shirt Man Helping To Carry The Man He Has Just Apparently Executed With The Other ’Security Team’ Members…All Of Whom, No Doubt, Drove Off And Won’t Be Seen Again. Now, With What We Have Already Shown You, What Do You See In His Left Rear Pants Pocket? No, Not A Tin Of Chewing Tobacco. That’s the Palm Pistol Murder Weapon…Ooops

    Look At The Sample Photo Of This Kind Of Weapon. In Your Mind’s Eye, Reverse The Palm Pistol In The Photo To Get An Even Better Overlay Of The Gun Printing Its Image Perfectly In Brown Shirt’s Back Pocket. Now What Do You See On The Other Side Of Brown Shirt’s Hips? A Little Nylon Zippered Case Hanging Out From Under His Shirt On A Clasp Or Some Kind Of Hook...Perfect Size For Transporting A Palm Pistol, Some Ammo And Even A Little Cleaning Kit For It. We Don’t Believe In ‘Coincidences In Such High Profile Political Assassinations.

    OK…Not Let’s Move Over To The Far Right In The Photo And You Will See A Man In A Black Shirt And Sunglasses. Where Have We Seen Him Before? Standing Right Behind Charlie Throwing Out A Stream Of Arm And Hand Signals Moments Before Charlie Was Killed. Yes, Same Guy. They Are ALL Involved With Murder And Removal Of Charlie Kirk

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    Quote Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
    Does anyone know of other wound and ballistics experts other than Zeb Boykin, posted above ,who know and can confirm his exit wound theory? Are most of us going by this one person? Obviously, If C Kirk was shot from behind , this throws the entire story on its head and the reverberations out into so many conundrums for the Feds. is it possible the bullet was spinning erratically for some reason on entry?
    This also puts into question so many people I put faith in to do an honest job in office. So I feel the exit wound theory needs serious study and corroboration from not just a few experts, but many.
    And how do the Feds, along with admin, C Kirks family and related react to this information?? what a mess.
    The "Magic Bullet Theory".....

    I am no expert, but....

    I used to be an avid deer and small game hunter when I was younger. I've hunted deer yearly for many years, often with a bow, but have shot several deer during rifle season. I've shot deer using several different caliber rifles over the years and they do leave different types of entry wounds, some like we've seen on Charlies neck.

    I don't think it's "unbelievable" that Charlie was shot from the front. I am surprised the back side of his neck wasn't completely blown out though, maybe it was and no one mentioned it. I doubt it though as I didn't see blood splatter etc., behind him when he was shot. I've seen large blown exit wounds on deer using a 30.06, 30-30, 35, and 32 cal. rifles, but I've also seen no exit wounds when the bullet on impact fragments and goes all over the place internally. Distance, entry location, and bullet type matters of course.

    Anything is possible and those that say it could of only be one way are simply just not considering all the possibilities.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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    My conjecture as to what just happened here (over on the Benjamin Fulford thread, as it's a bit weird, and was partially inspired by the latest Fulford report):
    Quote Posted by madrotter (here)
    Here's another perspective that I liked, and some of you might not like it, so be it, it's all part of a healthy, respectful discussion as far as I'm concerned....

    It's a different perspective ... one that (with more words, details and nuance) I find quite agreeable with my weird conjecture, linked above, over on the Fulford thread.

    I just listened to this Who Killed Charlie Kirk? -- Brendon O'Connell video that you also posted above, and came here to Avalon to share it. But you (madrotter) got here with it first. Cool.
    I'm not sure if everything has been removed already but he, O'Connell is being removed from Patreon because of his Charlie Kirk video. That alone should tell you something:

    I am engaging in polite dialogue with them. Please make sure to book mark my substack. The updated video is going there and all future posts. I will give them one more chance to stop playing games. It will cost me but it will cost them more. Much more.

    https://substack.com/@brendonoconnell?

    Funny thing... about two weeks ago I saw Jim Stone is back. Says he's living in a tent, in Mexico, moving around all the time, busking and trying to sell stuff at traffic stops to stay alive after losing everything he had because of a very, very nasty break-up with his Mexican girlfriend.... He posts every now and then in internet cafes, will try and find the address of his site.... If you don't know who Jim Stone is (and he also has a lot to say about the whole Charlie Kirk situation) you can find a lot about him on the Henry Makow site....

    Ah... Here it is:

    http://www.voterig.com/.tu5.html

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by madrotter (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    My conjecture as to what just happened here (over on the Benjamin Fulford thread, as it's a bit weird, and was partially inspired by the latest Fulford report):
    Quote Posted by madrotter (here)
    Here's another perspective that I liked, and some of you might not like it, so be it, it's all part of a healthy, respectful discussion as far as I'm concerned....

    It's a different perspective ... one that (with more words, details and nuance) I find quite agreeable with my weird conjecture, linked above, over on the Fulford thread.

    I just listened to this Who Killed Charlie Kirk? -- Brendon O'Connell video that you also posted above, and came here to Avalon to share it. But you (madrotter) got here with it first. Cool.
    I'm not sure if everything has been removed already but he, O'Connell is being removed from Patreon because of his Charlie Kirk video. That alone should tell you something:

    I am engaging in polite dialogue with them. Please make sure to book mark my substack. The updated video is going there and all future posts. I will give them one more chance to stop playing games. It will cost me but it will cost them more. Much more.

    https://substack.com/@brendonoconnell?
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    Funny thing... about two weeks ago I saw Jim Stone is back. Says he's living in a tent, in Mexico, moving around all the time, busking and trying to sell stuff at traffic stops to stay alive after losing everything he had because of a very, very nasty break-up with his Mexican girlfriend.... He posts every now and then in internet cafes, will try and find the address of his site.... If you don't know who Jim Stone is (and he also has a lot to say about the whole Charlie Kirk situation) you can find a lot about him on the Henry Makow site....

    Ah... Here it is:

    http://www.voterig.com/.tu5.html
    And I've definitely been viewing Henry Makow's website during this time: https://www.henrymakow.com/

    And when you mentioned Jim Stone I also thought of Mike Stone who's articles are also present on Henry Makow's website. His latest article is the following:

    Mike Stone - Why Tyler Robinson Did NOT Kill Charlie Kirk
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    Prophetic. And slightly chilling.


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    • Megyn Kelly: Charlie and I Were Threatened After Refusing to Cut Ties With Tucker Carlson:
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    [QUOTE=Bright Skies;1685888]
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Thanks ThePythonicCow. The "ballooning of Charlies' t-shirt" was the first thing a lot folks noticed very early on just after the initial raw videos were posted and it was speculated that this was due to the bullet ricocheting off a bullet proof vest and then into his neck. But that was early speculation before any proper analysis was done.

    Also, does anyone know if there has been any analysis done on the disappearing black dot on Charlies' t-shirt and the floating ring that changes fingers and then falls off? Or perhaps the particular video that shows those anomalies was purposefully doctored in order to cause confusion?
    The appeal to me of my "weird" white-hats hijacked a black-hat op and Charlie Kirk was still alive theory was that it meant that our federal government was now under firm control of the white hats, that we had already covertly transformed from the fat old deeply corrupted psycho that our federal government had become, into the lean, mean, truth and freedom seeking machine of our dreams.

    I was pipe dreaming.

    A few top level assignments like Kash Patel and Pam Bondi may have their heads in the right place, but the layers of Khazarian Mafia support that have been built up over the last century or two in our institutions can survive that like nothing happened.

    Spilling a few buckets of soapy water on top of the DC swamp won't drain it.

    Rebuilding the world's economic, financial, monetary, medical, scientific, legal, media, political, (institutionalized) religious and spiritual structure is required to drain such swamps. That's a multi-generational undertaking, which may well be in process, hard to know yet.

    Now that it's clear to me, as it is to some others here, that this was a successful hit job by the usual suspects, my focus on Kirk's assassination will likely diminish.

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    Funny thing... about two weeks ago I saw Jim Stone is back. .... If you don't know who Jim Stone is (and he also has a lot to say about the whole Charlie Kirk situation) you can find a lot about him on the Henry Makow site....

    Ah... Here it is:

    http://www.voterig.com/.tu5.html
    Ah - thanks for the reminder. Jim Stone had gotten back on my "daily list of sites to check" these last few months, but I've been rebuilding part of my personal desktop software these last couple of weeks, which has disrupted my daily routine. Yup - you can count on Jim to not go off on weird hopeful folly like I was doing. His analysis of Charlie Kirk's assassination is next on my queue right now.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Here's another very remarkable video. This is Tucker Carlson with Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks, in a conversation that's so mature, relaxed, good-humored and respectful it's almost literally hard to believe. This is REALLY worth watching, especially for anyone who might have strong opinions about either one of them. Cenk, especially, deserves immense kudos for this.

    Left-Wing Cenk Uygur Remembers his Encounter with Charlie Kirk: “Universally Wonderful”


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Here's another very remarkable video. This is Tucker Carlson with Cenk Uygur from The Young Turks, in a conversation that's so mature, relaxed, good-humored and respectful it's almost literally hard to believe. This is REALLY worth watching, especially for anyone who might have strong opinions about either one of them. Cenk, especially, deserves immense kudos for this.

    Left-Wing Cenk Uygur Remembers his Encounter with Charlie Kirk: “Universally Wonderful”

    I have strong opinions about Cenk, you'd probably suspend my account if I went off and told you what I truly think about this scumbag......I have a good memory and haven't forgot most of the things this scumbag has said about conservative leaning people like me and this country.
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    "The FBI's case is FULL of loopholes" Ex-Prosecutor says about Charlie Kirk's murder | Redacted

    Interesting take from a former prosecutor and marine in this 12-minute video:

    https://rumble.com/v6z5kxw-the-fbis-...e-kirks-m.html

    Source: https://www.rumble.com/video/v6wyop2
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    Who Moved The Camera Right Above Charlie's Head? | Candace Ep 239


    We showed you an image from Dairy Queen yesterday. Many of you thought that it was an old photo from July due to the movie poster. I’m going to explain to you why it’s not. And of course, we need to address the mysterious footage of two gentlemen taking down the camera directly behind Charlie 4 minutes after he was shot. What gives?

    00:00 - Start.
    00:55 - Cameragate.
    14:05 - Tips I've received.
    24:02 - Media lies about my relationship with Charlie.
    34:15 - Pam Bondi, Jimmy Kimmel, and the attack on free speech.
    48:43 - Update on the Dairy Queen photo.

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    “We’re Never Told The TRUTH” Directors Oliver Stone & Sean Stone on Kirk & RFK Assassinations. - - - - -- - - -
    Sep 20, 2025 #rfk #charliekirk #film
    America has a long history of political assassinations, with the most recent killing of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk sending shockwaves across the world.

    Robert F Kennedy was fatally shot 57 years ago - and now legendary filmmaker Oliver Stone and his son Sean Stone have delved into his incredible story in new film RFK: Legacy.

    They join Piers Morgan to discuss the documentary and their views on the assassination of Kirk plus Piers asks them about Putin’s Russia and the recent passing of Hollywood great Robert Redford.



    00:00 Introduction and monologue
    01:11 Oliver Stone and Sean Stone interview begins
    02:00 Charlie Kirk’s assassination
    06:22 Oliver and Sean Stone discuss their new documentary 'RFK: Legacy'
    08:52 Piers asks Oliver: “How do you think RFK was killed?”
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    11:57 Sean Stone on RFK’s bodyguard
    13:50 The CIA’s involvement, the JFK files and the RFK files
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    23:21 “Could a 22-year-old radicalized man pull off Kirk’s assassination without help?”
    27:19 Oliver Stone on Robert Redford
    30:13 Oliver Stone on Putin and the war in Ukraine

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Bright Skies (here)
    And I've definitely been viewing Henry Makow's website during this time: https://www.henrymakow.com/
    I was not persuaded by Makow's analysis that it was the man in a brown shirt, in the front row to Charlie Kirk's left, who fired the fatal shot. Yes, the brown shirt man did raise his right hand across his chest, potentially holding something that could have been aimed at Charlie, just as the shot was fired. But that's not how one fires an accurate shot, and the immediate blood loss from the left side of Charlie's neck would not come from an entry wound. Whether brown shirt man's motions are simply coincidental or actually coordinated, they now serve as yet another layer of the "crazy alternative conspiracy theories" that keep conspiracy nuts such as myself busy, and that (often for good reason) discredit all our efforts.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Frankie Pancakes (here)
    Some interesting thoughts/facts.

    The comments section is good too.

    1. The two apprehended men were but PLANTS to quickly divert LE attention in the immediate, confusing aftermath, giving maneuver space for the assassin to flee.

    2. This was a professional hit. A professional doesn’t leave behind evidence (cartridges with “trans” etchings) . . . bull. If something was left, it was intentionally left, it’s a false lead . . . even consider planted fingerprints left on the cartridges to throw off the dogs, perhaps even frame a fall guy.

    3. There should be NO open air events with popular conservative hosts without security who employ multiple drones that capture surveillance footage and which command observation of all highground. The failed Butler assassination was a wakeup call, reminded us what military always knows–you have to command the highground at all times. Who was in charge of Kirk’s security? Why was the highground left unsecured?

    4. Private jet tail # N888KG departing Provo airport 5 minutes from the venue shortly after the hit, then going dark on radar, then returning to provo airport shortly after. Why did the radar fail? Who owns the jet? Who was on the manifest? Who was the pilot?

    5. After a hit, the assassin either (1) flees, or (2) goes to ground. In the first case, why isn’t it SOP for LE to quickly move to the outer ring perimeter and observe anyone trying to quickly exfil? To the latter, in the case of the killer “going to ground,” why wasn’t the surrounding venue locked down and a full, room by room, person by person clearing operation conducted? Were the surrounded buildings locked down, methodically cleared, room by room?



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    I don't know who this is and the times he's stating seem wrong to me but any plane that turns off it's tracking like this has to have a very good (or bad) reason to.


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