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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    Imagine if you were standing next to someone shooting a gun that sounded that loud. I think you'd notice exactly who shot Charlie Kirk.

    Apparently, the people on this upper level could not see Charlie and were apparently running away from the sound of the gun shot.
    Was that sound from the actual weapon, or played over the loudspeaker, triggered perhaps by the man in the brown shirt to Charlie's left, seeming to hold something on his chest, his left arm on the rail. Was he holding the remote control for that loudspeaker 'bang'?

    My recollection now, of my first impression when viewing the video of that brown shirt man was that he was quite focused on Charlie, and seemed to expect and approve of what he saw. I have not double checked that first impression ... I could be "making stuff up."

    Were the people running from the gunshot, or did they first look down to see what happened near the stage, and then run?

    If so, then the sound came from that general direction, perhaps from the loudspeakers or a shooter near to Charlie?

    Good video - thanks, Tintin.

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    P.S. -- If one hears two shots, a fraction of second apart, the second one significantly louder than the first, will that second shot sound tend to mask one's awareness of the first?
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    In my estimation, every administration comes to the determination the truth (when they learn it) would rip the fabric of society completely apart, perhaps into chaos, anarchy, even Mad-Max world. Kash Patel is not a good actor. This is probably because, unlike most politicians/public servants, he's more or less an honest man and is very uncomfortable lying and spewing BS. He probably had no idea what he was getting himself into before accepting the job. That is apparent to me, anyway, as I watch him trot out such a ridiculous narrative.
    Kash Patel is doing a pretty good job, however, of exposing how corrupt the FBI is. Perhaps that's on of his assignments?
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by bojancan (here)
    Sept, 19
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    Who Moved The Camera Right Above Charlie's Head? | Candace Ep 239


    We showed you an image from Dairy Queen yesterday. Many of you thought that it was an old photo from July due to the movie poster. I’m going to explain to you why it’s not. And of course, we need to address the mysterious footage of two gentlemen taking down the camera directly behind Charlie 4 minutes after he was shot. What gives?

    00:00 - Start.
    00:55 - Cameragate.
    14:05 - Tips I've received.
    24:02 - Media lies about my relationship with Charlie.
    34:15 - Pam Bondi, Jimmy Kimmel, and the attack on free speech.
    48:43 - Update on the Dairy Queen photo.
    Thanks! Must watch that very important info from Candice Owen.

    In the above video Candace also explains that she was able to contact the guy who took the 'back' camera down, and convinced him to let her see the video which captured the 'back angle' of the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Candace is very clear that she did NOT see any blood from that angle, i.e. from Charlie's back, as he was shot. This is a significant detail, as a front shot with the alleged high calibre rifle would certainly have caused a gaping exit wound in the back of Charlie's head or neck and there would have been blood splattered behind him.

    Also, interesting comment by Candace about how Charlie Kirk's murder is being exploited to stamp down the very free speech that Charlie was advocating.
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    One of the comments below Candace's video:

    "Candace, I'm ex-military, grew up hunting on a farm in GA, was expert qualified with every weapon I handled in the military. I've been around high-powered rifles all of my life and currently own 3 of them. I dropped 2 full bodied deer with 1 shot one time to prove to my dad that my 308 Winchester was enough to take a big buck @ 150 yards vs his 7mm Remington Magnum. They lined up in my scope and I waited until their vitals were aligned before pulling the trigger. Exit wounds on both. We used all of the meat to feed us and our families during the winter months. I said that to say this: I know what I am talking about. There is not a 30-06 round made that will not exit the human body at that range. If you lined up 5 people for that shot, the 5th person is in extreme danger if not no safer than the front person. To put it in perspective, a 9mm handgun has around 350-400 foot pounds of energy and they routinely exit the body. a 30-06 has roughly 2700 foot pounds of energy at that range. If you did not see an exit wound from the camera from the back, Charlie was NOT shot with 30-06 from 200 yards from the front. Period. Impossible. End of story. Keep going! We are with you! Find out what really happened to Charlie!"

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    Now this one, of an alleged shooter from the other side (Charlie's right side) is more persuasive:
    Um, I'm afraid not. I posted a while back that the younger man in the white T-shirt wasn't looking at Charlie:



    I'm at the moment still on the idea that Robinson's shot was a decoy shot, and that the various hand gestures that we are witnessing are signals to him as to when to fire. Nothing that we are shown is consistent with what we'd expect to see from a rifle shot. Minimal to no spatter at all; it's all very neat and tidy.

    While the autopsy report remains out of sight we can only speculate as I, and others have here, that another mechanism was used to kill poor Charlie. And up close.
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    Cabinet Members Remember Charlie Kirk- The White House 9 20 2025

    https://rumble.com/v6z913u-cabinet-m...9-20-2025.html



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    Colonel Macgregor talks to Nino
    David Nino Rodriguez - 11 hours ago

    In the first 6 minutes of this interview Macgregor unloads 2 things about the scene of the Charlie Kirk shooting.

    A cluster of drones in the air above and a high number of Israeli mobile phones in the crowd around him.


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    Now this one, of an alleged shooter from the other side (Charlie's right side) is more persuasive:
    Um, I'm afraid not. I posted a while back that the younger man in the white T-shirt wasn't looking at Charlie:



    I'm at the moment still on the idea that Robinson's shot was a decoy shot, and that the various hand gestures that we are witnessing are signals to him as to when to fire. Nothing that we are shown is consistent with what we'd expect to see from a rifle shot. Minimal to no spatter at all; it's all very neat and tidy.

    While the autopsy report remains out of sight we can only speculate as I, and others have here, that another mechanism was used to kill poor Charlie. And up close.
    Actually, after watching the video at post #443 above (the one about the drone(s) that flew above Charlie Kirk's murder scene), I thought about the white shirt guy (WSG) above whose hands seem to be operating some sort of device in synchronicity with the gun shot heard on the video's audio. His hand movements reminded me of online game players.
    AND he is looking away from Charlie Kirk at some point in the distance, which is rather strange because isn't he there to listen to Charlie Kirk? ... Is it possible that the WSG is looking at a DRONE, which he is operating with his hand-held device? The direction is which he seems to be looking appears to be near the same spot that was identified in the video at post #443 above as to where the shooting was done from.

    Just prior to using the 'both hand device', the WSG had been using a cell phone aimed towards Charlie Kirk. Possible, the WSG was acquiring the target specifications with his cell phone, and then sent the info to the drone. (All of this is just pure speculation on my part.)

    I looked up this "Lanius drone-based loitering munition" weapon that was mentioned in post #443 above. It is designed and produced by an Israeli company "Elbit". (Of course it is also manufactured in the USA by now.) The key points of that drone weapon is that it has extremely complex AI capabilities and can be programmed to follow and aim at specific targets.

    Here is just one video of this drone weapon, this one seems to be using explosives, but I imagine that it could also deliver bullets. (I also imagine bullets that desintegrate once they've penetrated their target, so that recovery of the bullet is extremely difficult, or impossible, but that's just my guess.)

    Elbit Systems LANIUS drone-based loitering munition


    There's whole listings coming up of these devices' various capabilities if one types something like "lanius drone-based loitering munition for complex environments specification" in one's search bar.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Charlie Kirk was killed by the Freemasons for telling people things they weren't supposed to know. I heard him speak out against aid to Ukraine, claiming it benefited American oligarchs and the military industry, not the American people. He was also against the LGBT community. In short, much of what he said displeased the American Freemasons and the Illuminati. He was a courageous man and unafraid to speak the truth, so they feared him. That's what they did.

    Democratic Party supporters considered Kirk one of the main purveyors of "conspiracy theories" and accused him of radical views.

    In 2020, he questioned the need to fight COVID-19 and also claimed that the election that year was stolen by the Democrats.

    Kirk walks the line between conventional conservative opinion and disinformation. Having an ally in Donald Trump Jr. not only amplifies the president's message but also helps shape it.
    The New York Times, American newspaper
    (Look how an American newspaper is trying to slander him, claiming he's mixing in disinformation. But we understand perfectly well that this disinformation is true. The Masons were trying to hide the truth. Now imagine what would happen if he were in political power? They couldn't allow that)

    Kirk also launched a campaign against civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. and advocated for traditional gender roles, urging young women to "value marriage."

    Regarding Ukraine, he has repeatedly criticized US military aid to the country, even cautiously arguing with Trump.

    I don't like the idea of ​​supplying weapons to Ukraine. It's just a difference of opinion [with Trump]. You know, people can disagree.
    Charlie Kirk, political activist


    He also accused Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of being a "CIA puppet" and deliberately drawing the US into a conflict with Russia.

    What would have happened if Russia had not launched a military special operation? I'm answering you!
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1686079

    This is exactly what I tried to say in many of my articles, which I published and translated for you. Kirk and I share the same opinion on many issues. It's a shame it turned out this way, RIP.

    If I were a politician in USA and said what I publish in my articles, they would kill me too.

    Shot in broad daylight: There was no security at the performance of the deceased Charlie Kirk: https://rutube.ru/video/8578ea2112df...97/?t=2&r=plwd

    Globalists also feared he would become America's president. American youth loved and trusted Charlie Kirk. He helped Trump win the presidency.
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    When he said at ~2:36, "Okay, let's pull the trigger. Ooh, don't.", I interpret that to mean that the viewed sniper didn't pull the trigger because he saw an obviously deadly shot was taken by someone else, so he didn't go through with it. The "Ooh" was a reaction to the shot killing Charlie Kirk. In other words, the viewer may have been picking up on the thoughts of the sniper.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Future Forecasters (the well-known Remote Viewing team) published this 8 days ago. The comments are in unanimous agreement that this was spot-on correct.

    The most significant worksheet note that was made seems to be:
    Something weird here — not what it seems.

    Did We Predict The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

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    Quote Posted by Alecs (here)
    When he said at ~2:36, "Okay, let's pull the trigger. Ooh, don't.", I interpret that to mean that the viewed sniper didn't pull the trigger because he saw an obviously deadly shot was taken by someone else, so he didn't go through with it. The "Ooh" was a reaction to the shot killing Charlie Kirk. In other words, the viewer may have been picking up on the thoughts of the sniper.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Future Forecasters (the well-known Remote Viewing team) published this 8 days ago. The comments are in unanimous agreement that this was spot-on correct.

    The most significant worksheet note that was made seems to be:
    Something weird here — not what it seems.

    Did We Predict The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

    Very strange that in the US, people who are 2A proponents and KNOW ballistic FACTS are also probably the ones who will be LOOKING closely at Charlie Kirk's assassination. What is the object of THIS stupid narrative? The caliber of bullet claimed would have shattered his neck if IT WAS stopped.



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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Alecs (here)
    When he said at ~2:36, "Okay, let's pull the trigger. Ooh, don't.", I interpret that to mean that the viewed sniper didn't pull the trigger because he saw an obviously deadly shot was taken by someone else, so he didn't go through with it. The "Ooh" was a reaction to the shot killing Charlie Kirk. In other words, the viewer may have been picking up on the thoughts of the sniper.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Future Forecasters (the well-known Remote Viewing team) published this 8 days ago. The comments are in unanimous agreement that this was spot-on correct.

    The most significant worksheet note that was made seems to be:
    Something weird here — not what it seems.

    Did We Predict The Charlie Kirk Shooting?

    Very strange that in the US, people who are 2A proponents and KNOW ballistic FACTS are also probably the ones who will be LOOKING closely at Charlie Kirk's assassination. What is the object of THIS stupid narrative? The caliber of bullet claimed would have shattered his neck if IT WAS stopped.



    What about thio explanation? It makes sense in a way that the obfuscation that twists logic in a knot obscures the facts?


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    Charlie Kirk Warned: Communist China Threatens America’s Way of Life
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    (Speaking out about the threats posed by the Chinese Communist Party also probably wasn't safe for Charlie Kirk.)

    "The assassination of Charlie Kirk raises alarm over free speech in America. Kirk often warned about communist ideology. What did he say about the Chinese Communist Party?

    The Department of Health and Human Services posted on X, confirming that forced organ harvesting is still happening in China.

    What’s behind the raid of a South Korean factory in Georgia, and how could it impact U.S.–South Korea relations? An expert weighs in.

    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un appears to have chosen his successor—his daughter, Kim Ju Ae. South Korean lawmakers said she accompanied him on a recent visit to China.

    00:00 Intro
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    20:55 Communist-Led Nepal Faces Change After PM Oli Quits "

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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Now this one, of an alleged shooter from the other side (Charlie's right side) is more persuasive:
    Um, I'm afraid not. I posted a while back that the younger man in the white T-shirt wasn't looking at Charlie:
    The man with a white hat is not the person alleged to be the shooter in the MUST VIEW: Here’s a slow motion, step-by-step breakdown of the execution plot of the second shooter and his accomplices from behind Charlie. (State of the Nation) video.

    Rather that video is alleging that a man further back is the shooter.

    Look for the pair of hands held together right below the "O" in the word "WRONG" in the banner, of a man also wearing a white shirt, whose head is hidden from us by that banner. This video is alleging that those hands are holding the gun.

    For all I know, the loud gun report came over the loud speakers or from some other source, as part of sowing the confusion of evidence.

    Also, for all I know, those standing closest to the alleged shooter were in on the assassination, and deliberately suppressed any awareness of a (likely lower sound volume) gun going off right next to them.

    In any case, the perpetrators knew full well that such careful analysis as we see on this thread would be done, and went out of their way to provide, and report publicly, various distractions, to provide us plenty of rabbit holes to go down.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Now this one, of an alleged shooter from the other side (Charlie's right side) is more persuasive:
    Um, I'm afraid not. I posted a while back that the younger man in the white T-shirt wasn't looking at Charlie:
    The man with a white hat is not the person alleged to be the shooter in the MUST VIEW: Here’s a slow motion, step-by-step breakdown of the execution plot of the second shooter and his accomplices from behind Charlie. (State of the Nation) video.

    Rather that video is alleging that a man further back is the shooter.

    Look for the pair of hands held together right below the "O" in the word "WRONG" in the banner, of a man also wearing a white shirt, whose head is hidden from us by that banner. This video is alleging that those hands are holding the gun.
    I know I was referring to the same individual that the videomaker suggests is the shooter
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I know I was referring to the same individual that the videomaker suggests is the shooter
    That videomaker suggests that the man whose hands we can see chest high, just below the big 'O', is the shooter.

    That videomaker does not suggest that the man, also in a white shirt, who is closer to Charlie and who we can see wears a white hat, is the shooter.

    The opening words of that video are confusing.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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    Interesting: This is how they shot Charlie Kirk:

    https://x.com/salomondrin/status/1966255182662218099

    Twitter/X doesn't make it easy to download this video, and I am still surprised that it is up on the site. Besides the evidence it presents about how Charlie was murdered, not involving the patsy that the government has picked, there is another disturbing element in this video. Who among you knew that a cell phone could also be a gun? I sure didn't. What does this mean for security in all public places from this point forward? Are security checkpoints aware of this issue? And if everyone knew of this possibility then nobody would feel safe anymore in public with people carrying around a gun that looks like a phone. Right now most governments are depending upon surveilling their populations through the universal usage of smart phones. Knowing now that these could also be guns could cause a big change in the economies of the world. And they wouldn't want that information to get out. I personally wish everyone would go back to using landlines, so that option doesn't disappear. I only use a corded landline.
    That above is the video, starting at 8:45, the guy (in the background) doing a series of strange hand movements, holding his cell phone at one point, then dropping the phone to the RIGHT, and somehow getting something in his LEFT hand. Then he lifts both hands to his chest and shakes his hands in a strange way, which are the gestures of a player of video games, in my opinion. I don't see a gun, but maybe there's a device that he holds behind both hands.
    Just replay that video on the slowest setting, starting at 8:45, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

    In a previous post I've labelled this guy as the 'white shirt guy (WSG), BUT there are many other white shirts around. So to prevent confusion, I will call him "Gamer" from now now.

    In the above video we can't see Gamer's head, but in another video it shows that he is looking away to his right towards the area where the shooting is purported to have been done. Gamer was NOT looking at Charlie Kirk when the gun shot is heard. So, it's unlikely that he was aiming a gun at Charlie Kirk.

    I'll just repeat my speculation here again: Gamer is first holding a cell phone that he points to Charlie Kirk, to acquire data on the target. Then he sends the date to a drone that was loitering in front of the Charlie Kirk tent. Then Gamer somehow grabs the controls of the drone with his left hand, then lifts both hands to his chest, and then he presses the 'shoot' button which commands the drone to shoot the designated target.

    By the way, it's quite possible that Gamer is surrounded by accomplices who helps him with this assassination task. The black shirt guy on Gamer's left, and another guy standing behind Gamer and a bit to his right. I see no evidence that the woman standing in front of Gamer is an accomplice, maybe her role is just to provide a visual block on what Gamer is doing.

    As for the claims that the two men next to Charlie Kirk are doing hand signals, I don't think we have enough info on them to speculate about this.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Kash clearly aware of the conspiracy research views and info being shared - and responds, with much skepticism expressed in replies:

    https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status...09385418555404



    FBI Director Kash Patel

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    As the Director of the FBI, I am committed to ensuring the investigation into Charlie Kirk’s assassination is thorough and exhaustive, pursuing every lead to its conclusion.

    The full weight of America’s law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings. We are examining every facet of this assassination.

    We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message confession and related conversations, Discord chats, the angle of the shot and bullet impact, how the weapon was transported, hand gestures observed as potential “signals” near Charlie at the time of his assassination, and visitors to the alleged shooter’s residence in the hours and days leading up to September 10, 2025.


    Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued to ensure every possibility is considered. Our primary focus is to complete this investigation and deliver justice. To protect the integrity of the investigation and subsequent prosecution, we cannot release every piece of information we have to the public right now. We will ensure every question is addressed at the appropriate moment.

    Regarding specific details, such as questions about the plane that allegedly turned off its transponder after departing from an airport near the assassination site, we can share updates when answers are confirmed. After interviews with the pilot and consultation with the FAA, we determined the transponder was not turned off. Incomplete flight data in rural areas caused the apparent gap.

    The entire FBI mourns the loss of Charlie Kirk. We will not rest until justice is served, and our investigation into this assassination will continue until every question is answered.
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    Default Re: Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    I know I was referring to the same individual that the videomaker suggests is the shooter
    That videomaker suggests that the man whose hands we can see chest high, just below the big 'O', is the shooter.

    That videomaker does not suggest that the man, also in a white shirt, who is closer to Charlie and who we can see wears a white hat, is the shooter.

    The opening words of that video are confusing.
    Again, I know. C'mon man

    This video shows the person I'm talking about, who is young and isn't wearing a hat, and who Rizotto refers to as WSG.

    Here:

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